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[Adela]

R2s Muse wrote...

ag99 wrote...
This is true, for a NPC guy he sure has the biggest thread in the forum and that gives me hope^_^

LOL Although, we should keep in mind that that was FAR from the case at the point where they were deciding the companions which was over a year ago.

Honestly, I don't think BW would put in a character because the fans love or hate him. He'll have to work for the story. But, as David Gaider himself has said, and I quote:

I assure you that if we did include Cullen as a follower, it wouldn't be solely to "pander" to his fans. Not that I would overly mind pandering to them. They're not a large group, but there's hardly a nicer and more polite group one could choose to pander to.

Awwwwwww that was very nice of him to say that<3 but yea as I came on here pretty late I dont know how big the thread was before that, but still  for an NPC guy I think that he has the most deticated fans;)

[carine]

R2s Muse wrote...

ag99 wrote...
This is true, for a NPC guy he sure has the biggest thread in the forum and that gives me hope^_^

LOL Although, we should keep in mind that that was FAR from the case at the point where they were deciding the companions which was over a year ago.

Honestly, I don't think BW would put in a character because the fans love or hate him. He'll have to work for the story. But, as David Gaider himself has said, and I quote:

I assure you that if we did include Cullen as a follower, it wouldn't be solely to "pander" to his fans. Not that I would overly mind pandering to them. They're not a large group, but there's hardly a nicer and more polite group one could choose to pander to.

Awwwww. I didn't know that David Gaider said that. That's so sweet. 

[Dirgegun]

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Yeah, given all that squickiness with romancing a qunari, I wonder if they would  make him a qunari-only romance or something... I'm honestly still surprised that the PC can be a qunari and have romances. I just never expected qunari and sex to be in the same sentence in DA:I.

Speak for yourself; I'm all about tappin dat  ....No, I know what you mean LOL

Well, to me this confirms that qunari people are not biologically incapable of arousal. It's just the Qun culture that forbids romantic connections.

It's not so much about forbidding romantic connection. The Qun just considers sex to be a solely reproductive activity, and who reproduces with who is chosen by the matchmaker or whatever. *too lazy to look up all them Qunari titles right now*

Some Qunari DO have sex with their romantic interests outside their reproductive match ups, but those Qunari are taken to be reeducated on the Qun if caught. Two Qunari/Kossith/Oxmen/whatever who don't follow the Qun, though? They can do whatever they want! 

(And I would totally romance a Qunari with any race!)

[Adela]

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

My suggestion:



Iron Bull - warrior (two handed sword. hammer etc.)
Sera - rogue (bow/daggers)
Orlesian Grey Warden - warrior (sword + shield /two handed sword)
Cullen - warrior (sword + shield /two handed sword)
Painted girl (From Nevarra?) - rogue (crossbow)
Cassandra - warrior (sword + shield /two handed sword)
Vivienne - mage (staff )
Varric - rogue (crossbow)
Dorian - mage (staff )

I would hope that wold be the case but alot of ppl have been complaining that there are  too many warriors so I guess one of them has to be eliminated and include another mage to balance things out i suppose

[VampOrchid]

Kirrahe1 wrote...

ag99 wrote...

Kirrahe1 wrote...

While I think what you said could be cool and hopeful , I dont beileve that ppl will buy or not buy a game based  "soley" of a character, also the Cullen fan base its kind of a minority compared to everything else .

Sure every character  has his or her fans but to the same degree they also have alot of haters, so them by  marketing Cullen I think there would be an outrage in the bsn forums since  from what i've seen alot of ppl dislike the character for one reason or another...

Also  they do market "special" features  that customers desiers but most of these features  for some ppl are more important  then an NPC, these *major* features were presented recently  such as the returning races and an additional  "new " race the Qunari, also tactical combat and isometric vew,  these are the main features that people have hoped for since the whole DA2 thing that was lacking.

Now ofc some of the returning characters play a "big" role too into a customers desire such as Varric Cassandra and Morrigan, and others but looking through the threads of the DAI forums almost everytime  I see a Cullen thread it usually turns nasty witch alot of the times worries me that the devs may think that it would be a bad move to make him a companion because of so much hate, now granted the devs have been awesome and actually did listen to the fans and did quite a bit of things to please them , however sometimes this listening to the fans bit since we are a minority I fear that they are going to listen to the haters since they are more of a majority IMO and not include him as a companion..

Ok So maybe I didn’t do a good job explaining what I meant. I meant to make the same point you said in your top sentence. Cullen fans would still buy the game even if they didn’t have him as a companion/LI because if they are so invested in a character then they are obviously big fans. But not just letting the Cullen fans down easy and saying “You need to fan over other people” before they get way to excited seems like an unwise move.  
When discussing Dragon age and its huge fan base Cullen as an Companion/LI is truly in the minority of something fans want when compared to features of game play that people sought (like tactical view, playable races and what have you) but he is not a minority in regards to character fandom…if that makes sense. What I mean is when looking at Cullens fanbase compared to many other characters in the series it is rather large. You also mentioned that he has a lot of haters and this is totally true. My thing is though most of them do. I mean look at Anders or Leliana. We already know she is going to show back up again. I have also seen a lot of hate for Cassandra which is weird to me because she didn’t really show up a bunch in the second game. I guess the movie. But they still included her, even with that group that really didn’t like her. So I really think Bioware listens to like groups more than the hate ones. Also if they are worried about the haters they could still let everyone who is wondering know and just say “No he isn’t a companion, relax.”
Now there may be a ton of hate threads, but they aren’t anywhere near as long as this one and a lot of the same people that are “haters” go in there and complain. But simply look at the size of this thread compared to those. Also look at how many people go on this thread! It is pretty impressive when you think about how he is just an NPC. Bioware has really smart people working for it. They should have the forward thinking capacity to say “Yeah a lot of those hate threads pop up, but look at the size of the other one!” lol and the good news is writers and other workers definitely know about this thread so it isn’t some mystical treasure hidden in the back of the BSN cave

That and the fan based stuff that there is...art, fic...and so on! It shows a great deal of <3

[R2s Muse]

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Yeah, given all that squickiness with romancing a qunari, I wonder if they would  make him a qunari-only romance or something... I'm honestly still surprised that the PC can be a qunari and have romances. I just never expected qunari and sex to be in the same sentence in DA:I.

Speak for yourself; I'm all about tappin dat  ....No, I know what you mean LOL

Well, to me this confirms that qunari people are not biologically incapable of arousal. It's just the Qun culture that forbids romantic connections.

LOL I didn't mean my own. In fact I meant the writers' squickiness with players wanting it. I just... I really didn't think they'd go there!

@carine: I don't believe they have said explicitly that a qunari PC can romance anyone... I'm just assuming it based on ... um, the total sh!tstorm I imagine in the fanbase if it weren't possible. But it is possible that a qunari inquisitor would be a singleton.

[Dirgegun]

ag99 wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

My suggestion:



Iron Bull - warrior (two handed sword. hammer etc.)
Sera - rogue (bow/daggers)
Orlesian Grey Warden - warrior (sword + shield /two handed sword)
Cullen - warrior (sword + shield /two handed sword)
Painted girl (From Nevarra?) - rogue (crossbow)
Cassandra - warrior (sword + shield /two handed sword)
Vivienne - mage (staff )
Varric - rogue (crossbow)
Dorian - mage (staff )

I would hope that wold be the case but alot of ppl have been complaining that there are  too many warriors so I guess one of them has to be eliminated and include another mage to balance things out i suppose

They can complain all they want, but that doesn't mean Bioware will have balanced the classes. Personally, until proven otherwise, I'm sticking with the theory there will only ever be two mages in the party. That way you can't run around with four mages.

I am in the camp that thinks Dorian will be the elf we've seen, though.

[VampOrchid]

R2s Muse wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...



ok from left to right here who do we think is in this pic? I don't know if this was discussed already but yeah...

Cass
Uhm I don't know
Cullen
Inquy
Elf guy...does he have a name yet? Whatevez I dub thee Orlando Bloom
Viv
Leliana
Varric

so that's...7 out of 9 companions. But I really don't think Leliana will be one...that and I don't fussy her that much

FYI, DG has said explicitly about this pic that "many" are not companions. So it's not a slam dunk.

edit:
Also, for reference,  "Uhm I don't know" is who most of us here have been referring to as "Flaily Hands," and "Elf guy" has been "Chill" or "Chill McSmugson" and sometimes "maybe!Dorian." "Viv" is not Vivienne, as per DG, but looks more like the one who most folks call "Scribe Girl" from the leaked survey. And, "Cullen" typically has be "maybe!Cullen," since we're not quite sure.

Anyhoo, just so we're all on the same page, since we've discussed this one A LOT! And when everyone uses different words/names for each one, discussion gets difficult.

Ah so that's mister flaily hands! I was so lost with that one lol. I'm hoping that DG is just refering to Flaily hands and Leliana in here as not everyone is a companion. For some reason I can really see Flaily hands being the dude who's in charge of helping you run your keeps and keep track of your treasury. Don't know why, but he looks like that type.

[CuriousArtemis]

Dirgegun wrote...

Some Qunari DO have sex with their romantic interests outside their reproductive match ups, but those Qunari are taken to be reeducated on the Qun if caught. 

Oh, you're sure about this? They confirmed this? 

[VampOrchid]

ag99 wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

My suggestion:



Iron Bull - warrior (two handed sword. hammer etc.)
Sera - rogue (bow/daggers)
Orlesian Grey Warden - warrior (sword + shield /two handed sword)
Cullen - warrior (sword + shield /two handed sword)
Painted girl (From Nevarra?) - rogue (crossbow)
Cassandra - warrior (sword + shield /two handed sword)
Vivienne - mage (staff )
Varric - rogue (crossbow)
Dorian - mage (staff )

I would hope that wold be the case but alot of ppl have been complaining that there are  too many warriors so I guess one of them has to be eliminated and include another mage to balance things out i suppose

still think the grey warden will have that gauntlet/sword hand thingy

[CuriousArtemis]

R2s Muse wrote...

But it is possible that a qunari inquisitor would be a singleton.

Kay, going to make a bumbling qunari and name her Bridget Jones now 

[Adela]

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

But it is possible that a qunari inquisitor would be a singleton.

Kay, going to make a bumbling qunari and name her Bridget Jones now 

:lol:

[Adela]

damn this thread is moving pretty fast ... im still not done with my Cullen thing for the 2500 page...

Modifié par ag99, 03 septembre 2013 - 02:15 .

[R2s Muse]

VampOrchid wrote...

still think the grey warden will have that gauntlet/sword hand thingy

FWIW, we might have seen Beardy Grey Warden dude already in the gameplay footage, and he was using a sword and shield. Now, that being said, it sounds like no character is locked in to a weapon type outside of class restrictions, so he could mix it up. But, his S&S also matches his concept art from the customization blog entry.

http://i1284.photobu...n3.png~original

I think the gauntlet thingie you're talking about was in the PC armor vid, tho

http://i1284.photobu...ue.png~original
http://i1284.photobu...et.png~original

[Adela]

Dirgegun wrote...


They can complain all they want, but that doesn't mean Bioware will have balanced the classes. Personally, until proven otherwise, I'm sticking with the theory there will only ever be two mages in the party. That way you can't run around with four mages.

I am in the camp that thinks Dorian will be the elf we've seen, though.

Idk with all the no health regen discussion i think this time they may have 3 mages since you will be limited with health potions and such but who knows

[R2s Muse]

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

But it is possible that a qunari inquisitor would be a singleton.

Kay, going to make a bumbling qunari and name her Bridget Jones now 

LOL Does that mean she gets Mr. Darcy in the end... ??

[R2s Muse]

ag99 wrote...

damn this thread is moving pretty fast ... im still not done with my Cullen thing for the 2500 page...

Yeah... I know. We could always slow it down a bit... try to multi-post...?

[Dirgegun]

motomotogirl wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

Some Qunari DO have sex with their romantic interests outside their reproductive match ups, but those Qunari are taken to be reeducated on the Qun if caught. 

Oh, you're sure about this? They confirmed this? 

Qunari have no "family units": they do not marry, choose partners, or even know to whom they are related. A Qunari's "family" consists of his or her coworkers. Qunari generally do not associate mating with love. They feel love. They have friends. They form emotional bonds with one another. However, they simply do not sleep with each other to express it. If they do, then they are sent to be reeducated by the Ben-Hassrath. If a child is produced, the same thing happens as with all other Qunari children: it is sent to be raised by the Tamassrans, evaluated, and assigned a job. Qunari do not waste resources unnecessarily, people included.

Okay, so I thought I remembered it from the World of Thedas, but I can't find it now. I did find this on the wiki, though. But the Wiki isn't to be taken as 100% accurate so...

(I'll keep looking through the World of Thedas to see if its there too.)

[CuriousArtemis]

R2s Muse wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

But it is possible that a qunari inquisitor would be a singleton.

Kay, going to make a bumbling qunari and name her Bridget Jones now 

LOL Does that mean she gets Mr. Darcy in the end... ??

 Mr. Cullen perhaps? Guhh now I want to rewatch that movie lol

[VampOrchid]

R2s Muse wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

still think the grey warden will have that gauntlet/sword hand thingy

FWIW, we might have seen Beardy Grey Warden dude already in the gameplay footage, and he was using a sword and shield. Now, that being said, it sounds like no character is locked in to a weapon type outside of class restrictions, so he could mix it up. But, his S&S also matches his concept art from the customization blog entry.

I think the gauntlet thingie you're talking about was in the PC armor vid, tho

http://i1284.photobu...ue.png~original
http://i1284.photobu...et.png~original

yeah that's the thing I'm thinking of. Just saw in on someone wearing armor in some concept art from Matt Rhodes...totally forgot that the equip and armor won't be locked. But yes that's the thingy!

[Ilidan_DA]

https://twitter.com/...702471102205953

SprintReviewDay should be in September.

[Adela]

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...702471102205953

SprintReviewDay should be in September.

sweeet:O

[VampOrchid]

ag99 wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...702471102205953

SprintReviewDay should be in September.

sweeet:O

I second that!

[Danny Boy 7]

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Yeah, given all that squickiness with romancing a qunari, I wonder if they would  make him a qunari-only romance or something... I'm honestly still surprised that the PC can be a qunari and have romances. I just never expected qunari and sex to be in the same sentence in DA:I.

Speak for yourself; I'm all about tappin dat  ....No, I know what you mean LOL

Well, to me this confirms that qunari people are not biologically incapable of arousal. It's just the Qun culture that forbids romantic connections.

Cole or Iron Bull.....go

[R2s Muse]

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

But it is possible that a qunari inquisitor would be a singleton.

Kay, going to make a bumbling qunari and name her Bridget Jones now 

LOL Does that mean she gets Mr. Darcy in the end... ??

 Mr. Cullen perhaps? Guhh now I want to rewatch that movie lol

LOL Of course what does this make me think of??  Cullen in ugly christmas sweaters... yup...