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meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Yeah, the game does have a creepy feel to it. I found the whole concept of those red Templars more disturbing than the demons themselves. Watching what they did to those villages against the background of stunning fields and lakes was really unsettling!

... And the corpses after? Those are the ones from the trailer, you see it in more detail in the demo because it was day time, but those bodies kinda looked half burnt, but also like the life had been sucked out of them, leaving mummified husks. Horrendous!

Anyone else wondering which of the Templars we've met previously will end up on Team Red? 


Yesh!

Like uhm Carver!?

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Yup! Hopefully the rapey one that I accidentally didn't kill will be on team red! I hope Greagoir is safe, I purposely made Carver a Grey Warden, just to protect him. I think Cullen's probably safe given his stance by the end of DA2. Kinda hoping that Carroll dude isn't a red Templar too.

What other significant Templars were there in the previous DA games? Most of them died in DA2, lol.

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Oh and that dude that knew where Fenriel was

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LolaLei wrote...

Yup! Hopefully the rapey one that I accidentally didn't kill! I hope Greagoir is safe, I purposely made Carver a Grey Warden, just to protect him. I think Cullen's probably safe given his stance by the end of DA2. Kinda hoping that Carroll dude isn't a red Templar too.

What other significant Templars were there in the previous DA games? Most of them died in DA2, lol.


Oooh same here!

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VampOrchid wrote...

Oh and that dude that knew where Fenriel was


Samson? Sh!t, he was alright for a junkie! I bet the idiot ended up huffing the red stuff just because he wanted a stronger fix... bloody idiot. That's EXACTLY the sort of thing I can imagine the writers doing, lol.

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... What if a few nutty mages have started taking red lyrium too?

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It's really hard for me to get a good shot of the red templars. I hope we get some clearer footage/stills soon.

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LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

Oh and that dude that knew where Fenriel was


Samson? Sh!t, he was alright for a junkie! I bet the idiot ended up huffing the red stuff just because he wanted a stronger fix... bloody idiot. That's EXACTLY the sort of thing I can imagine the writers doing, lol.

Oh man... could totally see Samson being the first in line.

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Weird how the red Templars glow in different places, makes me wonder if they are gradually mutating or something? I hope so!

Yeah, poor Samson.

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What's also interesting is that the red lyrium is in their weapons! Looks like they took the red lyrium team logo... and really ran with it! LOL

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R2s Muse wrote...

What's also interesting is that the red lyrium is in their weapons! Looks like they took the red lyrium team logo... and really ran with it! LOL


Hm, so they're crafting with it! I wonder if they are actually huffing it too? Maybe some are and some aren't? They ones that do could be deformed/weird looking, and the ones that don't are maybe just the wearing the glowing armor they've infused red lyrium into, or something? That way you've got varying degrees of mental/powers, lol.

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

What's also interesting is that the red lyrium is in their weapons! Looks like they took the red lyrium team logo... and really ran with it! LOL


Hm, so they're crafting with it! I wonder if they are actually huffing it too? Maybe some are and some aren't? They ones that do could be deformed/weird looking, and the ones that don't are maybe just the wearing the glowing armor they've infused red lyrium into, or something? That way you've got varying degrees of mental/powers, lol.

That would make sense, particularly in terms of having different enemy ranks. Some are more 'crazy' than others. Maybe if you go 'all the way' you get to party with a demon and become abomination Optimus Prime!

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LOL, that would be awesome! Actually, the red Templars remind me of the indoctrinated Cerberus soldiers from ME3. They were in full armour with helmets on so they seemed normal, and were coherent, but then Shepard pulled off one of their helmets and they were half husked up with glowing blue eyes and blackish/blueish/purplish mottled skin. Creepy!

I could imagine maybe getting a good look at a red Templar who's been huffing red lyrium and seeing how their skin is starting to go all weird, like Corypheus. I mean, extreme lyrium usage mutates the user, like those Tervinter magisters, so I bet red lyrium would speed up the process!

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... If/when we get to see the first mutated red Templar, I'm kinda hoping Cullen will be around to witness it too. So if he isn't a companion/LI then I hope that it'll happen during his introduction quest (if he's an important npc, or Red Fist leader), or during his cameo/whatever. I wanna see/hear his reaction to it.

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LolaLei wrote...

... If/when we get to see the first mutated red Templar, I'm kinda hoping Cullen will be around to witness it too. So if he isn't a companion/LI then I hope that it'll happen during his introduction quest (if he's an important npc, or Red Fist leader), or during his cameo/whatever. I wanna see/hear his reaction to it.

That would be awesome. I'm sure he'll flip his lid and be all "Oh sweet Andraste! What have they done???" but I'd really like to see him lose his cool and be more "WTF is THAT?!". lol  I mean he's so reserved, even when under duress that I want to see him unravel a bit a la DA:O.

And then shag my PC.
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Holy crap, I hope that's not Cullen! "You may not like the direction we take him." pops into my head. No, no, no.

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LolaLei wrote...

LOL, that would be awesome! Actually, the
red Templars remind me of the indoctrinated Cerberus soldiers from ME3
.
They were in full armour with helmets on so they seemed normal, and
were coherent, but then Shepard pulled off one of their helmets and they
were half husked up with glowing blue eyes and
blackish/blueish/purplish mottled skin. Creepy!

I could imagine
maybe getting a good look at a red Templar who's been huffing red lyrium
and seeing how their skin is starting to go all weird, like Corypheus. I
mean, extreme lyrium usage mutates the user, like those Tervinter
magisters, so I bet red lyrium would speed up the process!


This was my exact thought when I first learned of the red Templars. And if, say, the tevinter magisters are behind the chaos, they could be secretly supplying or pushing the red lyrium to templars whose morals are shaky to begin with. 

As for the creepy factor- DA has definitely given me a few "well, better turn on some lights now!" moments. The first for me was in Orzommar when we hear Hespith:

First day they come, and catch everyone.
Second day they beat us, and eat some for meat.
Third day, the men are gnawed on again.
Fourth day we wait, and fear for our fate.
Fifth day they return, and it's another girl's turn.
Sixth day, her screams we hear in our dreams.
Seventh day, she grew as in her mouth they spew.
Eighth day we hated, as she's violated.
Ninth day she does feast as she's become the beast.

That was... ugggh.... so creepy.  As was the first time I played DA2 when we see (SPOILER!) Hawke's zombie mom.  I was so, so sad, but soooo creeped out at the same time.  >.<

Also, thank you very, very much for digging for those pics! I'm even more excited about our forts than I already was.

VampOrchid wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LOL To
underscore DG's love for writing characters you feel strongly about,
requoting something he said here in our thread about 10 months ago...

David Gaider wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
Aaaaaaaand que all the Cullen hate on the confessions Tumblr LOL.


Look at it this way: I'd rather use a character that was both hated and loved than one which nobody cared about either way. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]


And this is something that gives me hope to have him in game!


Oh,
they'll definitely have him in game. They, at the very least, are
supposedly going to give him closure.   And while when I first read the
quote my hopes increased, DG most likely only meant that Cullen was in
the game, period... not necessarily as a companion.  It would be great
to have him as a companion- he certainly deserves it.

#63243
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LOL, Chanda! That would be the biggest trolling ever!

I'm sure Cullen's safe though... Well, safe from purposely huffing red lyrium. It's possible that the red Templars could be out for his blood though!

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Just going back to that possible leak with the Red Fist faction that our Inquisitor will supposedly seek advice from, if Cullen really is the leader, I wonder how he ended up forming his own little group?

I wonder if the Red Fists are made up of just Divine loyal ex-Templars? Or if it's a mixture of all sorts of people?

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LolaLei wrote...

LOL, Chanda! That would be the biggest trolling ever!

I'm sure Cullen's safe though... Well, safe from purposely huffing red lyrium. It's possible that the red Templars could be out for his blood though!


I would be upset if that were Cullen.

But yeah I think he's safe as well -- I'm almost positive he's in the map picture concept art so I don't think we'll be fighting against him as some kind of red lyrium monster

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meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

... If/when we get to see the first mutated red Templar, I'm kinda hoping Cullen will be around to witness it too. So if he isn't a companion/LI then I hope that it'll happen during his introduction quest (if he's an important npc, or Red Fist leader), or during his cameo/whatever. I wanna see/hear his reaction to it.

That would be awesome. I'm sure he'll flip his lid and be all "Oh sweet Andraste! What have they done???" but I'd really like to see him lose his cool and be more "WTF is THAT?!". lol  I mean he's so reserved, even when under duress that I want to see him unravel a bit a la DA:O.

And then shag my PC.

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:lol::lol::lol: This right here would be my ideal favourite scene of the game!!! Or at least dialogue....and the shagging...

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@Lola, those pics of the keeps where great, thanks!

@R2, Agreed, but does that (him staying with the chantry) mean he would be a seeker? And... didn't they leave the chantry too, come to think about it? So Cass, Leli and Cullen are freelancing by the start of the game. Yet we see lots of seekers around. Hmm, I'm confused (haven't read Asunder)...

@Chanda, I know this is blasphemy, but I would laugh so hard if that happened. It's just such a mindf*ck!

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LolaLei wrote...

Just going back to that possible leak with the Red Fist faction that our Inquisitor will supposedly seek advice from, if Cullen really is the leader, I wonder how he ended up forming his own little group?

I wonder if the Red Fists are made up of just Divine loyal ex-Templars? Or if it's a mixture of all sorts of people?



I know it doesn't explain how he got his group, but if it is Cullen in this picture then me thinking that those people running over the hill are Templars would make sense. I'm thinking maybe those are loyal ones from Kirkwall maybe? The ones that stood back with him when Meredith ordered Hawke dead. I mean no other Templar fought with her, just the statues, heh.

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About Cullen being Big Red and Pointy, I have a hard time imagining a scenario where he would willingly ingest red lyrium. He saw firsthand what just holding it did to Meredith. And he was never in it for the power. He was all about duty and responsibility. I could imagine him becoming a cynical, embittered lyrium junkie if he didn't try to wean himself off it or a mad, incoherent Irminric if he went cold turkey before he'd expose himself to that.

DA2 aside, there are ways a character can change for the worse without becoming batsh!t insane.

Maybe those things are red-lyrium golems? Templars who have volunteered to become infused with red lyrium the way dwarves were infused with lyrium alloys?

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

What's also interesting is that the red lyrium is in their weapons! Looks like they took the red lyrium team logo... and really ran with it! LOL


Hm, so they're crafting with it! I wonder if they are actually huffing it too? Maybe some are and some aren't? They ones that do could be deformed/weird looking, and the ones that don't are maybe just the wearing the glowing armor they've infused red lyrium into, or something? That way you've got varying degrees of mental/powers, lol.


Thinking if Cullen is Companion or NPC or Agent...maybe we'll have to help him 'free' his brothers in arms. Maybe somehow they were all either forced or maybe even unwillingly became subjuect to this stuff.

Like looky here, cool new weapons...oh don't worry about the red...shiny right? :devil: