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[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

New question for you all:

If Cullen found out that it was Hawke killing off all his Templar recruits, what do you think his reaction would be?

I think he'd feel a bit back stabbed, even if Hawke was a mage supporter because despite the fact that they may not see eye to eye when it came to their beliefs, Cullen still respects him/her and Hawke is probably one of the only sorta-friends he has from Ferelden (possibly his only friend?) Since Cullen seems to be pretty oblivious to the behaviour of this recruits, I doubt he realised just how bad the Templars we killed off were, so It's unlikely that he would consider it a blessing in disguise lol.

[hmm, started this response several hours ago... oh well, here it is anyway!]
I think it would all depend on the context. So far, there aren't that many situations where he/she kills templars that were just doing their job (protecting Feynriel with the Dalish, I think is one). Most are templars doing something unethical -- Ser Alrik, Meredith's death squads. The thing with Ser Karras I think is a bit of a toss up... but I always thought that felt a bit forced that suddenly all the templars wanted to kill me.

So I think if Cullen gave Hawke a chance to explain, it would be a great opportunity to explore what he really thought was going on behind the scenes at the Gallows.

Makes you wonder if he ever asked his Templars to deal with Hawke or if someone else within the Order was giving counter orders behind his back that the others were following. I mean, he's a Ferelden and a lot younger than most of Templars that have been serving for years, there's bound to be some bitterness and political shady goings on within the ranks against him.

[PizzaThe Hutt]

R2s Muse wrote...

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

  Though a guy like him, I wouldn't be surprised if he were already married(Shoot, I wouldn't let that go if I were married to him) which would make him as a companion even more awesome

Oh man, that is an interesting idea!  And, not just because I would have to laugh at the collective fangirl tantrum it would invoke (LOL  mine included!). Aw, jeez, that's just another plot bunny waiting to happen, isn't it...? The little missus at home, that he never really gets to see... so perhaps hardly even knows...? Ah, what a conundrum if he were to then meet the exciting new PC who knocks his socks off... for perhaps the first time, and then decisions, decisions. I don't really see him being the cheating sort, but talk about angst.

BTW, does anyone know if the concept of divorce is ever mentioned in the game? ok... wiki'd a bit, and ironically, the "Sexuality and marriage" page says the Chantry doesn't allow outright divorce (without working references). But elsewhere, it is mentioned that Cailan was thinking about divorcing Anora to marry Celene I.

I wasn't trying to say he should cheat on his wife, but imagine if his wife was fighting with him(like how they introduced Aveline in the game fighting alongside her man).  I just think it would make for an interesting Bromance if there were an option for the PC to get married and they can have an ale and talk about their wives or something.  Would be hilarious :3  Even though I'm a big Cullen fangirl I wouldn't mind not being able to romance him(if he were married already, otherwise I'd be pretty mad if he weren't already spoken for) so long as he's happy with his situation, I'm cool with it...

I think Cailan was probably going to make a marriage alliance with Celene...  I rather liked Anora, she was a silver-tongued woman who knew what she wanted and had the brains and means to get it.  Something that I noticed about Cailan was that he seemed to be a bit of a jerk and incredibly vain, why would he want to be married to Anora who is only the daughter of a commoner turned Teryn when he could marry an Empress for appearances alone?  It's placed in the codex for either Cailan or Anora(can't remember which) that Anora pretty much had Cailan around her little finger since they were kids.  True she probably is a bit controlling but for a husband like Cailan, who can blame her?  She seemed to be the real leader of Fereldan and Cailan was just a figurehead.  If you presuade a hardened Alistair to marry Anora it's shown in the epilogue that he got his head on straight and became a good ruler alongside each other so perhaps they made for a better match?

Something I noticed of Anora and Cailan was that perhaps one of them had a hard time producing offspring?  Not really sure which one but if you talk to Loghain about it, it seems like he and Cailan were arguing about heirs.  So perhaps Cailan was considering Celene for heirs(not to mention power)?  Considering the medieval-ish time during the DA universe, you'd think that if a man has no heirs than clearly it's the woman's fault alone, so they would toss aside that woman for another woman...  So perhaps Cailan would have left the chantry and made his own religion(history reference anyone?)
Blargh now I'm rambling, THIS IS A CULLEN TOPIC AFTER ALL!

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Modifié par PizzaThe Hutt, 14 juillet 2012 - 10:31 .

[LolaLei]

Cailan would've been the next Henry VIII... except sexier.

Modifié par LolaLei, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:20 .

[PizzaThe Hutt]

Indeed

[MissRedZelda]

Really? I never saw Cailin as Vain and jerkish. Maybe naiive and idealistic, stupidly so at times, but not a jerk. He was even nice to a Dalish elf who you can choose to act like a b**** to him.

[R2s Muse]

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

I wasn't trying to say he should cheat on his wife, but imagine if his wife was fighting with him(like how they introduced Aveline in the game fighting alongside her man). 

Oh, I know! And, I agree, it would be an interesting character development for Cullen to be happily married. You just prompted my muse to start imagining variations!

Something I noticed of Anora and Cailan was that perhaps one of them had a hard time producing offspring?  Not really sure which one but if you talk to Loghain about it, it seems like he and Cailan were arguing about heirs.  So perhaps Cailan was considering Celene for heirs(not to mention power)?  Considering the medieval-ish time during the DA universe, you'd think that if a man has no heirs than clearly it's the woman's fault alone, so they would toss aside that woman for another woman...  So perhaps Cailan would have left the chantry and made his own religion(history reference anyone?)

From private documents of Cailan's, I guess from Return to Ostagar, Eamon says it's exactly about not having an heir. Of course, they blame Anora... but as you say, who else would they blame, after all! DG then confirmed that Cailan was planning on divorcing Anora. Still makes me wonder if divorce is strictly legal, tho.

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love this one. poor cullen!

Modifié par R2s Muse, 15 juillet 2012 - 12:18 .

[LolaLei]

Weird, Nathaniel Howe has more love than Cullen on that poll that's been posted up, but his thread is barely active.

Modifié par LolaLei, 15 juillet 2012 - 12:37 .

[MissRedZelda]

Just a quick question, but am I the only one that sees Eamon as a downright manipulative and vain man? Anora may not be noble blood, but she's more than qualified for the job, so what's so bad about her taking the throne? (Shakes head) I REALLY grew to hate him by the end. I think he may have had something to do with Alistair trying to break up with a non FNH.

I'm sure Cullen (or even Bann Teagan) would have told him (Eamon) to shove it.

Modifié par MissRedZelda, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:56 .

[LolaLei]

MissRedZelda wrote...

Just a quick question, but am I the only one that sees Eamon as a downright manipulative and vain man? Anora may not be noble blood, but she's more than qualified for the job, so what's so bad about her taking the throne? (Shakes head) I REALLY grew to hate him by the end. I think he may have had something to do with Alistair trying to break up with a non FNH.

I'm sure Cullen (or even Bann Teagan) would have told him (Eamon) to shove it.

I wasn't keen on him from the minute I realised that he pretty much pushed Alistair out of the family home. I mean, sure he was the bastard son of King Maric, but Eamon was supposed to look after him and instead he pretty much pushed him away and then sent him off to the Chantry.

Also, did anyone else get the feeling that Eamon's wife Isolde was having an affair with Teagan? I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Teagan had some sort of brief trist with her in the past, hell she even attended the party at Chateau Haine in DA2's with him rather than her husband. Dodgy LOL.

[MissRedZelda]

That wouldn't surprise me. Isolde always came off as a self-centred and vain woman. It was her fault really that Connor got into the position he was in, which is one of the many reasons why I hate her (Plus, her voice makes my ears bleed). And Teagan is quite the ladies man, he unashamedly hit on my female human mage, and am I the only one that got the impression that he was planning on proposing the to female PC?

[LolaLei]

MissRedZelda wrote...

That wouldn't surprise me. Isolde always came off as a self-centred and vain woman. It was her fault really that Connor got into the position he was in, which is one of the many reasons why I hate her (Plus, her voice makes my ears bleed). And Teagan is quite the ladies man, he unashamedly hit on my female human mage, and am I the only one that got the impression that he was planning on proposing the to female PC?

I picked up on it too, I was thinking "hell no, Alistair is a million times better!" I never understood what the fascination is with Teagan... then again, a lot of people say that about Cullen. Different strokes I guess lol.

[MissRedZelda]

Indeed, Lola ;-)

So, back to Cullen. What do you think his special abilities will be? You know, like Fenris has his Lyrium Ghost thing, and Merrill has her Elven Magic stuff. What about Cullen? I don't think it's going to be bog standard Templar abilities.

[LolaLei]

Ok, so here's a new question for you all. It's kinda Cullen related (I'll work him into it, don't worry lol.)

So anyway, in one of the other threads someone mentioned how the best idea for the new protagonist, would be to make them a nomad/gypsy/traveler. What are your thoughts of this concept?

I actually really love the idea of our DA3 protagonist having traveled around since birth, never settling in one place for long. Giving him/her a nomadic background opens up plenty of freedom for the player to head canon our protagonists past during his/her time "on the road", it also makes picking a side in the Mage/Templar war (or whatever war/big event) easier because he/she would have no emotional ties to any particular country or area in Thedas and even if you play as a mage he/she would have no first hand experience of life on the run as an apostate or life in the circle, so any decision made would be based solely on what we as the player want from our character, without the influence of the protagonists family or patriotism.

It would also make playing a neutral personality easier. Plus class origins would still be possible, because they could place the protagonist in any situation they wanted, in any part of Thedas because he/she would have been "just passing through" when the occurrence happened. For example, if you're a rogue, perhaps he/she was pick pocketing for extra coin for food and got caught before he/she has the chance to continue traveling; if you're a mage, he/she might have stumbled upon a small apostate colony and decided to stay with them for the week to rest up, only to get caught up in a rebel Templar raid; and if you're a warrior then perhaps you take on a temporary job as a nobles body guard for coin before moving on, but something gets stolen and you're accused of the theft because you're "ze filthy gypsy scum." Seriously, the possibilities are endless.

Aaaaanyway, here's where Cullen would fit into the mix. Having our protagonist as a nomad would also add a whole new dimension to any potential romance with him because our character (I'll refer to her as female) has had complete freedom, no rules or regulations holding her back, no obligations, duties or routine to keep. Cullen, on the other hand, has lived a sheltered life within the confines of the Chantry/Templar Order. Interaction between the pair (if done well) could be very interesting as Cullen would initally find her "chaotic" lifestyle troubling, yet intriguing (perhaps even a little bit exhilarating and refreshing?) While our protagonist would find Cullen's lifestyle incomprehensible and senseless (especially as she discovers how needlessly controlled and regimented he's chosen to be.) Over time they would being to learn from each other, maybe she grows to like the idea of settling down in one place (should we, as the player decide to) and/or perhaps she inspires him to loosen up a little, leading him to decide that he wants to travel with her and experience all the things he's denied himself for so long (of course the Templar Order could present a problem with this option, but I guess that would depend on the state of things within the Order and his own frame of mind by the end of DA3.)

[LolaLei]

MissRedZelda wrote...

Indeed, Lola ;-)

So, back to Cullen. What do you think his special abilities will be? You know, like Fenris has his Lyrium Ghost thing, and Merrill has her Elven Magic stuff. What about Cullen? I don't think it's going to be bog standard Templar abilities.

Lecturing his enemies to death with Chantry rules? LOL, I kid.

Hm, I think it'll obviously be something Templar related, maybe something to do with his strength of will or awesome smitey powers... Or maybe he'll dazzle the bad guys into shock and awe by flashing his bulging biceps?

(Hey, a girl can dream!)

Modifié par LolaLei, 15 juillet 2012 - 04:00 .

[LolaLei]

LOL some one commented in the old Cullen thread, now there are two of them in this part of the forum... I wonder why they didn't just comment in here instead?

[Melca36]

LolaLei wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Got to see Alistair's and Morrigan's voice actors at Comic Con.

Would love to see Greg Ellis at one of these cons one day.

OMG! Are they as friendly as they seem??

Very friendly and down to Earth.  

Seeing them there, it made me think their roles in the next game are going to be more than just cameos.

[Melca36]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Got to see Alistair's and Morrigan's voice actors at Comic Con.

Would love to see Greg Ellis at one of these cons one day.

Ah, so awesome! Saw pics of both of them. At least Claudia Black I guess was over at the BW booth with David Gaider...? Sooooo jealous that you're there!!

EDIT: of course, didn't occur to me until someone over on devart mentioned it... but could it mean something that Claudia Black was signing autographs at the BW booth?? Could Morrigan be coming back??

Could that also mean that Steve Valentine is coming back? Although he did mention on Twitter a few months back that he hadn't been called to do any Bioware games and he's also got a comic book/novel thingy out so he might have been there mainly for that lol.

He was at the Bioware booth as was Claudia Black. I do think they will be coming back. Their characters are still extremely popular. I heard the comic books have been very successful so I do think  that might play a part in having a bigger role in the game.

[Melca36]

LolaLei wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

Just a quick question, but am I the only one that sees Eamon as a downright manipulative and vain man? Anora may not be noble blood, but she's more than qualified for the job, so what's so bad about her taking the throne? (Shakes head) I REALLY grew to hate him by the end. I think he may have had something to do with Alistair trying to break up with a non FNH.

I'm sure Cullen (or even Bann Teagan) would have told him (Eamon) to shove it.

I wasn't keen on him from the minute I realised that he pretty much pushed Alistair out of the family home. I mean, sure he was the bastard son of King Maric, but Eamon was supposed to look after him and instead he pretty much pushed him away and then sent him off to the Chantry.

Also, did anyone else get the feeling that Eamon's wife Isolde was having an affair with Teagan? I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Teagan had some sort of brief trist with her in the past, hell she even attended the party at Chateau Haine in DA2's with him rather than her husband. Dodgy LOL.

As a Teagan fan, I actually think he would NEVER sleep with Isolde and I think hes been a bachelor all of his life because he DOES NOT WANT a relationship like Eamon has with Isolde. I think Teagan has always spent too much time living under Eamon's shadow.  He was the youngest Guerrin. Rowan was like 13 or 14 when Teagan was born. He's 9 years younger than Eamon.  There are issues there....at least in my fan fiction. LOL

Oh and I dont take his appearance with Isolde in MOTA seriously. I think Isolde insisted she attended only because she's Orlesian.

Modifié par Melca36, 15 juillet 2012 - 09:03 .

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Ok, so here's a new question for you all. It's kinda Cullen related (I'll work him into it, don't worry lol.)

So anyway, in one of the other threads someone mentioned how the best idea for the new protagonist, would be to make them a nomad/gypsy/traveler. What are your thoughts of this concept?

I actually really love the idea of our DA3 protagonist having traveled around since birth, never settling in one place for long. Giving him/her a nomadic background opens up plenty of freedom for the player to head canon our protagonists past during his/her time "on the road", it also makes picking a side in the Mage/Templar war (or whatever war/big event) easier because he/she would have no emotional ties to any particular country or area in Thedas and even if you play as a mage he/she would have no first hand experience of life on the run as an apostate or life in the circle, so any decision made would be based solely on what we as the player want from our character, without the influence of the protagonists family or patriotism.

It would also make playing a neutral personality easier. Plus class origins would still be possible, because they could place the protagonist in any situation they wanted, in any part of Thedas because he/she would have been "just passing through" when the occurrence happened. For example, if you're a rogue, perhaps he/she was pick pocketing for extra coin for food and got caught before he/she has the chance to continue traveling; if you're a mage, he/she might have stumbled upon a small apostate colony and decided to stay with them for the week to rest up, only to get caught up in a rebel Templar raid; and if you're a warrior then perhaps you take on a temporary job as a nobles body guard for coin before moving on, but something gets stolen and you're accused of the theft because you're "ze filthy gypsy scum." Seriously, the possibilities are endless.

Aaaaanyway, here's where Cullen would fit into the mix. Having our protagonist as a nomad would also add a whole new dimension to any potential romance with him because our character (I'll refer to her as female) has had complete freedom, no rules or regulations holding her back, no obligations, duties or routine to keep. Cullen, on the other hand, has lived a sheltered life within the confines of the Chantry/Templar Order. Interaction between the pair (if done well) could be very interesting as Cullen would initally find her "chaotic" lifestyle troubling, yet intriguing (perhaps even a little bit exhilarating and refreshing?) While our protagonist would find Cullen's lifestyle incomprehensible and senseless (especially as she discovers how needlessly controlled and regimented he's chosen to be.) Over time they would being to learn from each other, maybe she grows to like the idea of settling down in one place (should we, as the player decide to) and/or perhaps she inspires him to loosen up a little, leading him to decide that he wants to travel with her and experience all the things he's denied himself for so long (of course the Templar Order could present a problem with this option, but I guess that would depend on the state of things within the Order and his own frame of mind by the end of DA3.)

I really like that juxtaposition of the PC's carefree attitude and Cullen's regimented one. That would provide an interesting basis for a romance.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

Indeed, Lola ;-)

So, back to Cullen. What do you think his special abilities will be? You know, like Fenris has his Lyrium Ghost thing, and Merrill has her Elven Magic stuff. What about Cullen? I don't think it's going to be bog standard Templar abilities.

Lecturing his enemies to death with Chantry rules? LOL, I kid.

Hm, I think it'll obviously be something Templar related, maybe something to do with his strength of will or awesome smitey powers... Or maybe he'll dazzle the bad guys into shock and awe by flashing his bulging biceps?

(Hey, a girl can dream!)

LOL  Agee it would be templar related. I could imagine something that fits with his new understanding of what the Order stands for (you know, protecting everyone, yadayada) and isn't so strictly anti-mage like the current templar talents. You could call is something like Templar Defender and make the skills somehow an amalgam of things that fight both mages and templars, or something.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

LOL some one commented in the old Cullen thread, now there are two of them in this part of the forum... I wonder why they didn't just comment in here instead?

D'oh, probably just a mistake. Hopefully it will scroll off quickly so there's no confusion...

[R2s Muse]

Melca36 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Got to see Alistair's and Morrigan's voice actors at Comic Con.

Would love to see Greg Ellis at one of these cons one day.

Ah, so awesome! Saw pics of both of them. At least Claudia Black I guess was over at the BW booth with David Gaider...? Sooooo jealous that you're there!!

EDIT: of course, didn't occur to me until someone over on devart mentioned it... but could it mean something that Claudia Black was signing autographs at the BW booth?? Could Morrigan be coming back??

Could that also mean that Steve Valentine is coming back? Although he did mention on Twitter a few months back that he hadn't been called to do any Bioware games and he's also got a comic book/novel thingy out so he might have been there mainly for that lol.

He was at the Bioware booth as was Claudia Black. I do think they will be coming back. Their characters are still extremely popular. I heard the comic books have been very successful so I do think  that might play a part in having a bigger role in the game.

Crossing fingers. That would be awesome!

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Got to see Alistair's and Morrigan's voice actors at Comic Con.

Would love to see Greg Ellis at one of these cons one day.

Ah, so awesome! Saw pics of both of them. At least Claudia Black I guess was over at the BW booth with David Gaider...? Sooooo jealous that you're there!!

EDIT: of course, didn't occur to me until someone over on devart mentioned it... but could it mean something that Claudia Black was signing autographs at the BW booth?? Could Morrigan be coming back??

Could that also mean that Steve Valentine is coming back? Although he did mention on Twitter a few months back that he hadn't been called to do any Bioware games and he's also got a comic book/novel thingy out so he might have been there mainly for that lol.

He was at the Bioware booth as was Claudia Black. I do think they will be coming back. Their characters are still extremely popular. I heard the comic books have been very successful so I do think  that might play a part in having a bigger role in the game.

Crossing fingers. That would be awesome!

So long as he doesn't come back as a love interest, that'll make my new protagonists life VERY difficult... plus, I'd be pretty pissed off if he'd ditched the Warden or visa versa lol.

He'll probably be a quest giver or maybe involved in searching for the Warden (more so if he romanced her), no doubt we'll encounter him again, especially for those who made him King. As for Morrigan, I think she's a sure thing for DA3, maybe not as a companion, but definitely some sort of encounter that bigger than your average cameo.

[LolaLei]

Melca36 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

Just a quick question, but am I the only one that sees Eamon as a downright manipulative and vain man? Anora may not be noble blood, but she's more than qualified for the job, so what's so bad about her taking the throne? (Shakes head) I REALLY grew to hate him by the end. I think he may have had something to do with Alistair trying to break up with a non FNH.

I'm sure Cullen (or even Bann Teagan) would have told him (Eamon) to shove it.

I wasn't keen on him from the minute I realised that he pretty much pushed Alistair out of the family home. I mean, sure he was the bastard son of King Maric, but Eamon was supposed to look after him and instead he pretty much pushed him away and then sent him off to the Chantry.

Also, did anyone else get the feeling that Eamon's wife Isolde was having an affair with Teagan? I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Teagan had some sort of brief trist with her in the past, hell she even attended the party at Chateau Haine in DA2's with him rather than her husband. Dodgy LOL.

As a Teagan fan, I actually think he would NEVER sleep with Isolde and I think hes been a bachelor all of his life because he DOES NOT WANT a relationship like Eamon has with Isolde. I think Teagan has always spent too much time living under Eamon's shadow.  He was the youngest Guerrin. Rowan was like 13 or 14 when Teagan was born. He's 9 years younger than Eamon.  There are issues there....at least in my fan fiction. LOL

Oh and I dont take his appearance with Isolde in MOTA seriously. I think Isolde insisted she attended only because she's Orlesian.

If he hasn't ever slept with her, then I reckon Isolde definitely fancies him lol.

[Melca36]

LolaLei wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

Just a quick question, but am I the only one that sees Eamon as a downright manipulative and vain man? Anora may not be noble blood, but she's more than qualified for the job, so what's so bad about her taking the throne? (Shakes head) I REALLY grew to hate him by the end. I think he may have had something to do with Alistair trying to break up with a non FNH.

I'm sure Cullen (or even Bann Teagan) would have told him (Eamon) to shove it.

I wasn't keen on him from the minute I realised that he pretty much pushed Alistair out of the family home. I mean, sure he was the bastard son of King Maric, but Eamon was supposed to look after him and instead he pretty much pushed him away and then sent him off to the Chantry.

Also, did anyone else get the feeling that Eamon's wife Isolde was having an affair with Teagan? I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Teagan had some sort of brief trist with her in the past, hell she even attended the party at Chateau Haine in DA2's with him rather than her husband. Dodgy LOL.

As a Teagan fan, I actually think he would NEVER sleep with Isolde and I think hes been a bachelor all of his life because he DOES NOT WANT a relationship like Eamon has with Isolde. I think Teagan has always spent too much time living under Eamon's shadow.  He was the youngest Guerrin. Rowan was like 13 or 14 when Teagan was born. He's 9 years younger than Eamon.  There are issues there....at least in my fan fiction. LOL

Oh and I dont take his appearance with Isolde in MOTA seriously. I think Isolde insisted she attended only because she's Orlesian.

If he hasn't ever slept with her, then I reckon Isolde definitely fancies him lol.

In one of my fan fictions...Isolde drugs him because Eamon shoot blanks. 11 years later Teagan discovers Connor is really his son.