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Chanda: that would be pretty cool. I mean, even if he's no longer part of the Order this whole red Templar thing is going to be of interest/concern to him, especially since he was in Kirkwall when Hawke first discovered red lyrium, and was also the only one to experience the full extent of Meredith's descent into madness after she purchased the idol because he was second in command, so he had to work very closely with her constantly for 7 years, but more importantly he witnessed and had to fight Meredith at the peak of her red lyrium corruption. He knows exactly how dangerous that stuff is, and would likely want to make contact with our Inquisitor ASAP to warn us, particularly once the red Templars actually start to physically try to attack the Inquisition as we gain power.

... Y'know what, I bet that's not too far off the mark. If Cullen really is a companion/LI or important npc, I bet the red lyrium/red Templar thing will be a large part of his story arc.

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I kind of hope he is a freelancer tbh, not really aligned with anyone and sort of pulling a Xena/Hercules where he travels around righting wrongs. Or maybe we have to bring him out of retirement.

Addiction is a powerful motivator so he might want the red lyrium regardless of the things he's seen. I know some people who have nearly killed themselves with insert drug here and they went right back to it later.

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Man, when you think of it like that there's absolutely no reason why Cullen shouldn't be an important character. I mean, the devs said themselves that if you play as a mage Inquisitor then your class choice will get a lot of reaction mid-game, which means that there's a good chance this whole mage/Templar thing will still be a big issue until half way through at the very least. And that's not including the red Templars running around directly working for the big bad.

That's half the fricken game, you can't tell me that Cullen won't play a large chunk in it when that whole situation heavily involves and affects him directly.

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LolaLei wrote...

Man, when you think of it like that there's absolutely no reason why Cullen shouldn't be an important character. I mean, the devs said themselves that if you play as a mage Inquisitor then your class choice will get a lot of reaction mid-game, which means that there's a good chance this whole mage/Templar thing will still be a big issue until half way through at the very least. And that's not including the red Templars running around directly working for the big bad.

That's half the fricken game, you can't tell me that Cullen won't play a large chunk in it when that whole situation heavily involves and affects him directly.


Cullen makes a whole lot more sense than Varric, until we know more why he is in the game at least.

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To me it seems like Varric is a companion because he's the only good thing to come out of DA2 for a lot of people, plus he's kinda like the comfy/familiar face in a new game that is so different to anything we've seen in a DA game so far.

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I kinda feel like if Cullen isn't a companion then it's because Cassandra already fills the role of the reformed ex-hardline Templar with a heart. Which is a shame, not that I dislike Cass, it's just that I kinda had my heart set on Cullen and I feel like the poor sod needs a little time in the spot light to really see his story arc shine... That and I'd feel bad if Greg Ellis missed out on the chance to be a companion, or an important character again lol.

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LolaLei wrote...

To me it seems like Varric is a companion because he's the only good thing to come out of DA2 for a lot of people, plus he's kinda like the comfy/familiar face in a new game that is so different to anything we've seen in a DA game so far.


Yes, but I mean why is he running around with Cassandra when they apparently don't really like each other? He's always been more neutral, he is the one that says he is sick of Templars and Mages alike. So why is he now traveling with a Chantry Seeker? What does he care, other than that he is worried about Hawke? Or a cure for his brother? But you could kill Bartrand, so that reason is kinda out. I'm really hoping his story makes sense, when you knew him in DA2 and they don't totally rewrite him to be all opinionated, because that's not Varric from DA2. 

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I would love to run into Cullen during a mystery plot of missing lyrium. Somebody would be responsible for a nightly raid on a couple of dwarves where they lost all their lyrium but kept their lives. There would be three or so templar suspects, Cullen being one of them. Regardless of who you convicted, Cullen could still join to take on the red templars and show what a real templar would be.

If you found him guilty, he would confess in front of your evidence that he was the thief, but ask to join the inquisition to repent for his crime. He knows he has done wrong, and may continue to do so in these matters, but he ultimately wants the world to return to a peaceful state and being at the inquisition is where he will do that. You could also run into one of the suspected templars later who would be grateful for the inquisitor's proper handling of the situation and reward her appropriately.

If you didn't find him guilty, he'd join up with you for the same reasons sans the admission of guilt. After running into the earlier convicted templar whom you thought paid for his crime with his life later in the game, Cullen would confess to his theft of the lyrium earlier and add that he couldn't bear another person paying for his own crimes.

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Chanda wrote...

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In case you haven't seen it, DG poking his head into Anora love/hate situation on tumblr.

http://dgaider.tumbl...aracters-part-2


It's funny, because I've been kind of keeeping up with that "I'd like a Templar companion" thread, and the way people are going back and forth over Cullen there... DG's end comments almost make think that he's talking about Cullen in a very hidden type of way, using Anora as a mirror to Cullen. No one is really talking about Anora on the forums that I've seen, but there's been a lot of talk about Cullen. It's like he's responding about it, but using Anora as a cloak.

Naw, it's a current issue on tumblr right now re: Anora because of that confession, but I think the issue itself generalizes to many of DA's most polarizing characters. At this point, I'm sure DG's seen it all.

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Chiantirose1982 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

To me it seems like Varric is a companion because he's the only good thing to come out of DA2 for a lot of people, plus he's kinda like the comfy/familiar face in a new game that is so different to anything we've seen in a DA game so far.


Yes, but I mean why is he running around with Cassandra when they apparently don't really like each other? He's always been more neutral, he is the one that says he is sick of Templars and Mages alike. So why is he now traveling with a Chantry Seeker? What does he care, other than that he is worried about Hawke? Or a cure for his brother? But you could kill Bartrand, so that reason is kinda out. I'm really hoping his story makes sense, when you knew him in DA2 and they don't totally rewrite him to be all opinionated, because that's not Varric from DA2. 

I'm really curious about this as well. I kept re-reading the sentences about why Cass and Varric would be traveling together, and for the life of me, I can't come up with one single good theory. I agree; he never struck me as the crusader type. He seems like he'd be in it not for world peace, but to help someone close to him. So, I like your ideas about Hawke and/or Bartrand. Those sound more plausible to me than "let's save the world" as a modus operandi for Varric.

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LolaLei wrote...

I kinda feel like if Cullen isn't a companion then it's because Cassandra already fills the role of the reformed ex-hardline Templar with a heart. Which is a shame, not that I dislike Cass, it's just that I kinda had my heart set on Cullen and I feel like the poor sod needs a little time in the spot light to really see his story arc shine... That and I'd feel bad if Greg Ellis missed out on the chance to be a companion, or an important character again lol.

Sadly, agree. I think thematically Cass probably got his spot as a companion. One spot of hope I see, though, is that perhaps he's just an NPC because his story is too interesting to just be dragged around as the Inquisitor's peanut gallery?  As an NPC (or even "important NPC" as per Morrigan's description), maybe his character would get to be ALL about story, whatever reason we end up seeking him out. That could end up being meaty... :huh: maybe...

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I kinda feel like if Cullen isn't a companion then it's because Cassandra already fills the role of the reformed ex-hardline Templar with a heart. Which is a shame, not that I dislike Cass, it's just that I kinda had my heart set on Cullen and I feel like the poor sod needs a little time in the spot light to really see his story arc shine... That and I'd feel bad if Greg Ellis missed out on the chance to be a companion, or an important character again lol.

Sadly, agree. I think thematically Cass probably got his spot as a companion. One spot of hope I see, though, is that perhaps he's just an NPC because his story is too interesting to just be dragged around as the Inquisitor's peanut gallery?  As an NPC (or even "important NPC" as per Morrigan's description), maybe his character would get to be ALL about story, whatever reason we end up seeking him out. That could end up being meaty... :huh: maybe...

I would consider this to be an acceptable reason for him not to be a companion. (Because, you know, my opinion matters. Image IPB) If Cullen turns out to be more story than fighty action AND we get an LI out of it then total bonus points. We may miss out on some humorous banter with him as a tag along but I think I can cope with that compromise.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I kinda feel like if Cullen isn't a companion then it's because Cassandra already fills the role of the reformed ex-hardline Templar with a heart. Which is a shame, not that I dislike Cass, it's just that I kinda had my heart set on Cullen and I feel like the poor sod needs a little time in the spot light to really see his story arc shine... That and I'd feel bad if Greg Ellis missed out on the chance to be a companion, or an important character again lol.

Sadly, agree. I think thematically Cass probably got his spot as a companion. One spot of hope I see, though, is that perhaps he's just an NPC because his story is too interesting to just be dragged around as the Inquisitor's peanut gallery?  As an NPC (or even "important NPC" as per Morrigan's description), maybe his character would get to be ALL about story, whatever reason we end up seeking him out. That could end up being meaty... :huh: maybe...


But to the same token if he were to be a companion you would have gotten to know him on a more personal level then him being and NPC and all about dutly and stuff  (and no by personal i dont mean shag him) by personal I mean maybe we would have gotten to know him how he is really like, how he truly feels about things without him "hide" behind his dutyes

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ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I kinda feel like if Cullen isn't a companion then it's because Cassandra already fills the role of the reformed ex-hardline Templar with a heart. Which is a shame, not that I dislike Cass, it's just that I kinda had my heart set on Cullen and I feel like the poor sod needs a little time in the spot light to really see his story arc shine... That and I'd feel bad if Greg Ellis missed out on the chance to be a companion, or an important character again lol.

Sadly, agree. I think thematically Cass probably got his spot as a companion. One spot of hope I see, though, is that perhaps he's just an NPC because his story is too interesting to just be dragged around as the Inquisitor's peanut gallery?  As an NPC (or even "important NPC" as per Morrigan's description), maybe his character would get to be ALL about story, whatever reason we end up seeking him out. That could end up being meaty... :huh: maybe...


But to the same token if he were to be a companion you would have gotten to know him on a more personal level then him being and NPC and all about dutly and stuff  (and no by personal i dont mean shag him) by personal I mean maybe we would have gotten to know him how he is really like, how he truly feels about things without him "hide" behind his dutyes

sssshhhhhhhh..... don't sully my silver lining with your reality...  lalalalalalalalalalala not listening.....

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R2s Muse wrote...

ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I kinda feel like if Cullen isn't a companion then it's because Cassandra already fills the role of the reformed ex-hardline Templar with a heart. Which is a shame, not that I dislike Cass, it's just that I kinda had my heart set on Cullen and I feel like the poor sod needs a little time in the spot light to really see his story arc shine... That and I'd feel bad if Greg Ellis missed out on the chance to be a companion, or an important character again lol.

Sadly, agree. I think thematically Cass probably got his spot as a companion. One spot of hope I see, though, is that perhaps he's just an NPC because his story is too interesting to just be dragged around as the Inquisitor's peanut gallery?  As an NPC (or even "important NPC" as per Morrigan's description), maybe his character would get to be ALL about story, whatever reason we end up seeking him out. That could end up being meaty... :huh: maybe...


But to the same token if he were to be a companion you would have gotten to know him on a more personal level then him being and NPC and all about dutly and stuff  (and no by personal i dont mean shag him) by personal I mean maybe we would have gotten to know him how he is really like, how he truly feels about things without him "hide" behind his dutyes

sssshhhhhhhh..... don't sully my silver lining with your reality...  lalalalalalalalalalala not listening.....


LOL sorry:P

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OH. MY. Just as she threatened... I'll be in my corner dissolving into a puddle of goo...

For Your Eyes Only by MellorianJ

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OMG I can't believe she listed it as special attention to me and friends LOL

this made my day, and loving his tattoo!

I know!!  That was so sweet of her to direct it to you (and I'll squint, turn my head sideways, and think it was directed at me, too... :P)

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ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I kinda feel like if Cullen isn't a companion then it's because Cassandra already fills the role of the reformed ex-hardline Templar with a heart. Which is a shame, not that I dislike Cass, it's just that I kinda had my heart set on Cullen and I feel like the poor sod needs a little time in the spot light to really see his story arc shine... That and I'd feel bad if Greg Ellis missed out on the chance to be a companion, or an important character again lol.

Sadly, agree. I think thematically Cass probably got his spot as a companion. One spot of hope I see, though, is that perhaps he's just an NPC because his story is too interesting to just be dragged around as the Inquisitor's peanut gallery?  As an NPC (or even "important NPC" as per Morrigan's description), maybe his character would get to be ALL about story, whatever reason we end up seeking him out. That could end up being meaty... :huh: maybe...


But to the same token if he were to be a companion you would have gotten to know him on a more personal level then him being and NPC and all about dutly and stuff  (and no by personal i dont mean shag him) by personal I mean maybe we would have gotten to know him how he is really like, how he truly feels about things without him "hide" behind his dutyes

sssshhhhhhhh..... don't sully my silver lining with your reality...  lalalalalalalalalalala not listening.....


LOL sorry:P

That's okay...... *sniff*sniff*wibble*sob* :crying::crying:

;):lol::lol::lol:

"I'll show you interesting..." he murmured with a wicked chuckle.

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R2s Muse wrote...

 That's okay...... *sniff*sniff*wibble*sob* :crying::crying:

;):lol::lol::lol:

"I'll show you interesting..." he murmured with a wicked chuckle.
*snip*


lool that pic is awesome:lol::lol:

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ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

 That's okay...... *sniff*sniff*wibble*sob* :crying::crying:

;):lol::lol::lol:

"I'll show you interesting..." he murmured with a wicked chuckle.
*snip*


lool that pic is awesome:lol::lol:

I love shifty monocle bowler hat Cullen! If we got to customize his look in game, this would be one of my choices. LOL

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meanieweenie wrote...

ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

 That's okay...... *sniff*sniff*wibble*sob* :crying::crying:

;):lol::lol::lol:

"I'll show you interesting..." he murmured with a wicked chuckle.
*snip*


lool that pic is awesome:lol::lol:

I love shifty monocle bowler hat Cullen! If we got to customize his look in game, this would be one of my choices. LOL

LOL pleasepleaseplease let someone mod this into the game! :o

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R2s Muse wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

 That's okay...... *sniff*sniff*wibble*sob* :crying::crying:

;):lol::lol::lol:

"I'll show you interesting..." he murmured with a wicked chuckle.
*snip*


lool that pic is awesome:lol::lol:

I love shifty monocle bowler hat Cullen! If we got to customize his look in game, this would be one of my choices. LOL

LOL pleasepleaseplease let someone mod this into the game! :o


It would be nice, if the game is gonna be mod friendly... but the devs mentioned that they will look into it so... I'm hoping...:innocent:

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ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

ag99 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

 That's okay...... *sniff*sniff*wibble*sob* :crying::crying:

;):lol::lol::lol:

"I'll show you interesting..." he murmured with a wicked chuckle.
*snip*


lool that pic is awesome:lol::lol:

I love shifty monocle bowler hat Cullen! If we got to customize his look in game, this would be one of my choices. LOL

LOL pleasepleaseplease let someone mod this into the game! :o


It would be nice, if the game is gonna be mod friendly... but the devs mentioned that they will look into it so... I'm hoping...:innocent:

Yeah... probably not mod friendly, but the community always seems to find a way! So, I'm also hopeful!

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LolaLei wrote...

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Love LOVE LOVE this!

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Chiantirose1982 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I think the VGAs happened a couple of days ago, didn't they? I know the Edmonton Expo is happening this week (I think), but I think it's just the same info and panels that were at PAX.


I really don't know. I thought they were always in December. 


Usually near the end of october

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LolaLei wrote...

Man, when you think of it like that there's absolutely no reason why Cullen shouldn't be an important character. I mean, the devs said themselves that if you play as a mage Inquisitor then your class choice will get a lot of reaction mid-game, which means that there's a good chance this whole mage/Templar thing will still be a big issue until half way through at the very least. And that's not including the red Templars running around directly working for the big bad.

That's half the fricken game, you can't tell me that Cullen won't play a large chunk in it when that whole situation heavily involves and affects him directly.


Another thing, he wasn't 'super' important in DAO or DA2. But he had a part that mattered and both times he somehow knew the main Character and played a role in both games. The first one not so much, the second more so. It's almost like they put him in game 1 and went, oh he's familiar, throw him in game 2 see how that does. Well that went well, lets throw him in game 3 giving him a bigger part.

Look at Spike in Buffy, on and off the show with small to big parts. Character progression matters. So I have hope, but not lifting my hopes high enough to get stomped lol