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So there could be hope for us all yet! I think I'd be cool with that, so long as we were able to interact and talk to him enough to make up for him not being in the party with us. I'd also want at least one quest with him where he'd actually come with us, even if it's just like in DA2 where we meet him there and help us fight a monster or whatever.


I'd be okay with this, too. A non-companion romance can still be a very in-depth experience, I think. In fact, I think it would be really cool to have a lover who isn't following you around like a pet dog, but is instead off doing his own thing, saving the world in his own way :P


If it's done right, most certainly. So long as it doesn't feel lacking, or seem obvious that it was done just so that we could shag him to "shut the fangirls up" then it could totally work. 

Personally, I'd still prefer him as a companion/LI, just because I wanted to take him back to Ferelden and drag him into the Fade directly so that he can see for himself what it's like to be a mage etc, but right now I'll take whatever I can get from him in terms of screentime, since I'm pretty convinced that he won't be a companion again.

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[quote]LolaLei wrote...

[quote]Danny Boy 7 wrote...

[quote]motomotogirl wrote...

[quote]R2s Muse wrote...

[/quote] Huh. That is interesting. I think DG also poked a hole in the everyone's player-sexual again idea... I want to say in his blog, maybe?  What I was thinking, tho, might be something like Varric only romances another dwarf, or a Qunari only romances someone... erm, on the tall side. :D Gosh, now I'm really curious!![/quote]

I desperately hope that this is the case! I will be SO ANGRY if the LI I choose is only into women <_< *hello Alistair all over again*

[quote]Chanda wrote...

So, similar to the followers we have; we want to bring back 
some fan favourites, whether it's as NPCs or followers, and we'll travel
to areas that you've been to before, as well as places that fans have 
always wanted to go to. We're trying to find that perfect blend of old 
and new.[/quote]

HA! Knew it. Morrigan, Cass, and Varric are just fan bait. Straight male DA:O fanboyz fan bait that is. Bah.

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Aren't all cameos fan bait? I don't think it's fair to just label them that though. 

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Morrigan, Cass and Varric aren't cameos though. 2 are companions and one is a massively important character that we'll have loads of interaction and encounters with. 

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Cassandra was little more than semi-major Npc in DA2,  Varric I agree is a bit much considering he was a major companion in the last game, but he was everyone's bro...it wasn't something unique to male players and I'm assuming he's there to tie is to DA2.  Even before we heard Morrigan was in the game when we heard about the Fade tear we expected Morrigan and/or Flemeth was going to play a role. 

If you can blame BioWare for anything it's making their male characters too self contained within their plots. Though Sebastian was going to get a return in that expansion and we don't know how much any other unannounced characters are going to be involved in the plot.

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LolaLei wrote...

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Chanda wrote...

In case no one has read it, yet, there's a new interview with Jonathan Perry about DAI.

www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-16239-Dragon-Age--Inquisition-Interview-----Jonathan-Perry-Talks-Sex--Mounts--Demons-and-Destruction.html

It has an interesting snippet about locations and followers and NPCs in general:

Talking
about locations for a second; are there going to be familiar places
that you'll recognise from previous Dragon Age games in Dragon Age:
Inquisition, like Denerim from Dragon Age II and places like that?

Unfortunately I can't confirm locations! (Laughs) I would hope we'll be
able to find places that are familiar to players, while also exploring
new areas. So, similar to the followers we have; we want to bring back
some fan favourites, whether it's as NPCs or followers, and we'll travel
to areas that you've been to before, as well as places that fans have
always wanted to go to. We're trying to find that perfect blend of old
and new.

And also about romances:

Finally,
how will romancing work in the game? Is it the same kind of deal as
previous BioWare games, or can anyone romance anyone?

I wouldn't say that anyone can romance anyone, but there will certainly
be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another. We
haven't really been able to comment on how many of your followers will
be 'romance-able' or who will be 'romance-able', but we do have a whole
lot of interesting combinations. Romance is a really important part of
our storytelling, and we really want to give the player a lot of options
there.


"there will certainly be characters who fancy a certain type of person more than another."  WOW. I thought they had said that the romanceable companions were going to be player-sexual again, like they were in DA2, but this sounds really interesting.


Huh. That is interesting. I think DG also poked a hole in the everyone's player-sexual again idea... I want to say in his blog, maybe?  What I was thinking, tho, might be something like Varric only romances another dwarf, or a Qunari only romances someone... erm, on the tall side. :D Gosh, now I'm really curious!!


Is it just me, or did that sound like he was hinting that there might be romances outside of the companions?

ooooh, you could very well be right!! This part: "We haven't really been able to comment on how many of your followers will be 'romance-able' or who will be 'romance-able'"  

He didn't really have to say that last part if it's same same as the other games, with only followers romanceable, right...? 

I'm going to do the cautiously optimistic dance of joy...

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Welcome, Mahumia, and stay a while! We accept your naked!Cullen offering... altho note that if it's NSFW we also try to link it... just in case ... ;)


Oops, I thought this one was not too bad *blushes* Sorry! 

And the info regarding the places and romances sounds very promising! I was getting afraid that they wanted to scrap the romances totally after reading some topics on the inquisitor forum. And bringing characters back and non-companion romances... Do we finally get to romance Teagan?! :o *cough* sorry, I meant: yay for possible return of Cullen :whistle: Hmmm, where are the 'I support <character> for DA:I'-banners? Think I would need to collect a whole lot :innocent:

LOL No worries... I think one was skirting the edge, but some folks also check the thread at work so we try to be careful. :D

Romance Teagan... ?  I think the fandom would explode! *fans self* LOL We sure can hope. But, I think it's a done deal that DA:I will have romances, despite some of the vitriol spat at the notion in some corners of the BSN.

If you're interested in Cullen-y  banners, we have the latest banner roundup back on Page 2500. Knock yourself out!

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LOL, I could watch that gif for hours!

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LolaLei wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

So there could be hope for us all yet! I think I'd be cool with that, so long as we were able to interact and talk to him enough to make up for him not being in the party with us. I'd also want at least one quest with him where he'd actually come with us, even if it's just like in DA2 where we meet him there and help us fight a monster or whatever.


I'd be okay with this, too. A non-companion romance can still be a very in-depth experience, I think. In fact, I think it would be really cool to have a lover who isn't following you around like a pet dog, but is instead off doing his own thing, saving the world in his own way :P


If it's done right, most certainly. So long as it doesn't feel lacking, or seem obvious that it was done just so that we could shag him to "shut the fangirls up" then it could totally work. 

Personally, I'd still prefer him as a companion/LI, just because I wanted to take him back to Ferelden and drag him into the Fade directly so that he can see for himself what it's like to be a mage etc, but right now I'll take whatever I can get from him in terms of screentime, since I'm pretty convinced that he won't be a companion again.

This is my one concern with stay-at-home romances. "Romancing" Sebastian was pretty disappointing to the point where you almost wonder why you bothered. (*almost* cough*cough*)

edit: to, erm, illustrate my point... uh, yeah! ^_^
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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Cassandra was little more than semi-major Npc in DA2,  Varric I agree is a bit much considering he was a major companion in the last game, but he was everyone's bro...it wasn't something unique to male players and I'm assuming he's there to tie is to DA2.  Even before we heard Morrigan was in the game when we heard about the Fade tear we expected Morrigan and/or Flemeth was going to play a role. 


Well, I'm not going to argue with ya. ^_^ I stated my case, which still stands. It's up to each person to choose to see the facts differently. 

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R2s Muse wrote...

LOL No worries... I think one was skirting the edge, but some folks also check the thread at work so we try to be careful. :D

Romance Teagan... ?  I think the fandom would explode! *fans self* LOL We sure can hope. But, I think it's a done deal that DA:I will have romances, despite some of the vitriol spat at the notion in some corners of the BSN.


*also fans self*  Teagan is a fox... and he'd now be a silver fox :o

I was thinking, there's nothing wrong with that picture! It's hot! I love how real and "fleshy" he looks! Awesome job! Then I was thinking, what if I scrolled past that picture while at work? *DELETE! DELETE! DELETE! Close all the tabs!! Exit! Delete! Ahhhhhh!*  

But maybe that would be my fault for perusing the thread at work :lol:

Modifié par motomotogirl, 28 septembre 2013 - 07:49 .


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motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Seriously, just for a second imagine if the returning characters were Zevran, Fenris, Aveline, and Cullen. Did your brain just explode? Yeah, mine, too. Because that would NEVER HAPPEN. Not a one of those was romanceable by a straight male, and none is considered a straight guy's "bro."


You mean as companions or NPCs? 


I mean if they're the same as Varric, Cass, Morrigan, and Leliana. Like let's say Cullen and Fenris are companions, and Zevran and Aveline are very important NPCs that you interact with throughout the whole game (like Morrigan and Leliana).

It just wouldn't happen.

Do we know we'll be able to intetact with Morrigan and Leliana the whole game? Morrigan can still be important and only have three or four conversations with the PC like Loghain and Meredith did.

Cullen can still be a companion, Anders was a romance who transferred over from an expansion and played arguably the biggest role in DA2

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Hey everyone, how goes it?

Hey, there you are!  You getting your laptop working again so you can get off your phone??


My laptop is trashed I have to wait for my financial aid reimbursement to get a new one.

Ah rats... I hope that doesn't mean til  next semester/quarter? 

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Seriously, just for a second imagine if the returning characters were Zevran, Fenris, Aveline, and Cullen. Did your brain just explode? Yeah, mine, too. Because that would NEVER HAPPEN. Not a one of those was romanceable by a straight male, and none is considered a straight guy's "bro."


You mean as companions or NPCs? 


I mean if they're the same as Varric, Cass, Morrigan, and Leliana. Like let's say Cullen and Fenris are companions, and Zevran and Aveline are very important NPCs that you interact with throughout the whole game (like Morrigan and Leliana).

It just wouldn't happen.

Do we know we'll be able to intetact with Morrigan and Leliana the whole game? Morrigan can still be important and only have three or four conversations with the PC like Loghain and Meredith did.

Cullen can still be a companion, Anders was a romance who transferred over from an expansion and played arguably the biggest role in DA2


They confirmed that we will have a lot of interaction/encounters with Morrigan, yes. They didn't say anything about how often we'd speak with Leliana, but there was another "kinda" leak that suggests we will.

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motomotogirl wrote...

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Cassandra was little more than semi-major Npc in DA2,  Varric I agree is a bit much considering he was a major companion in the last game, but he was everyone's bro...it wasn't something unique to male players and I'm assuming he's there to tie is to DA2.  Even before we heard Morrigan was in the game when we heard about the Fade tear we expected Morrigan and/or Flemeth was going to play a role. 


Well, I'm not going to argue with ya. ^_^ I stated my case, which still stands. It's up to each person to choose to see the facts differently. 

Yeah I don't mean to sound hostile I just went through the last four or five pages and felt bad for liking Morrigan and you know having her role boiled down to fan bait kinda hurt...idk it shouldn't,  but it's like saying that we want Cullen purely for his looks, there's more to it than that.

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 LOL No worries... I think one was skirting the edge, but some folks also check the thread at work so we try to be careful. :D

Romance Teagan... ?  I think the fandom would explode! *fans self* LOL We sure can hope. But, I think it's a done deal that DA:I will have romances, despite some of the vitriol spat at the notion in some corners of the BSN.

If you're interested in Cullen-y  banners, we have the latest banner roundup back on Page 2500. Knock yourself out!


Edited the post just to be sure :)


Totally digging that idea of dragging Cullen along into the fade and showing him the other side of the mage/templar issue. :wub:


I actually like the idea of romance-able non-followers. If only for the 'How was your work today?' conversations. But yeah, no matter what, I hope the romances will be fleshed out nicely. I rivalmanced Sebastian once... totally cute, even faked Anders death for him (he will never find out that I used a stage-knife, right? :whistle:)... only to have him forget about that promise he made about 'getting me no less than a prince' :bandit: If both he and Hawke turn up in DA:I I expect some arguing about that....

*runs off to page 2500*

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I wonder what places we will be revisiting then? Maybe we'll find Cullen around Calenhad docks or something, after visiting the abandoned circle to put a few ghosts to rest?

*Wishful thinking*

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LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Seriously, just for a second imagine if the returning characters were Zevran, Fenris, Aveline, and Cullen. Did your brain just explode? Yeah, mine, too. Because that would NEVER HAPPEN. Not a one of those was romanceable by a straight male, and none is considered a straight guy's "bro."


You mean as companions or NPCs? 


I mean if they're the same as Varric, Cass, Morrigan, and Leliana. Like let's say Cullen and Fenris are companions, and Zevran and Aveline are very important NPCs that you interact with throughout the whole game (like Morrigan and Leliana).

It just wouldn't happen.

Do we know we'll be able to intetact with Morrigan and Leliana the whole game? Morrigan can still be important and only have three or four conversations with the PC like Loghain and Meredith did.

Cullen can still be a companion, Anders was a romance who transferred over from an expansion and played arguably the biggest role in DA2


They confirmed that we will have a lot of interaction/encounters with Morrigan, yes. They didn't say anything about how often we'd speak with Leliana, but there was another "kinda" leak that suggests we will.

Yeah, I mean isn't that because this game was supposed to be the resolution of her story? That and we didn't even see her in DA2 lol. 

Leliana really is BioWare's baby though, fans had very little to do with that, though I agree it's kinda crap because they could have just replaced her with Sebastian...idk

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Mahumia wrote...

/delurks to show support for Cullen and Cullen-fans :wizard:

It's been a few pages ago, but I have to join the crew who hide from the Inquisition threads a bit more... Pff, quite a rabid bunch there sometimes XD Nonetheless, I do still hope that Cullen will (somehow) pop up for DA:I. I think that it would be great to get to know him better and get to know the whole story, apart from the bits we've seen in DA:O and DA:2. Obviously I would not mind if he showed up as a LI, as long as he does not show up hostile (I will refuse to kill him ... I could not kill Anders either :crying:) I will be happy.

Aaaaand to get the mood up: look what I found on deviantart by YumiKoyuki :whistle:

Edited for saving the thread from melting by naked Cullen http://fc00.devianta...uki-d5kp0q8.jpg


Welcome! ^_^ I hope you like it here. And that pic... Oh myyyy! :wub:

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Yeah I don't mean to sound hostile I just went through the last four or five pages and felt bad for liking Morrigan and you know having her role boiled down to fan bait kinda hurt...idk it shouldn't,  but it's like saying that we want Cullen purely for his looks, there's more to it than that.


You just happen to be lucky because you fit the coveted demographic. DG and company are incapable of writing bad characters, so there's no shame in liking any of them, obviously. (Isabela, the allged canon LI according to the DA2 trailer, is my 2nd favorite character) 

But it's about why some characters are carried over (as stated by the dev a few pages back -- to please the fans). But which fans? Not me. The marketing doesn't give a crap about me. I'm female, I'm over 30... they're just lucky I even care to pick up a controller. Young, male, straight, probably white... that's who they're anxious to market to. That's why Cass, Varric, Morrigan, and Leliana are returning. And not Zevran, Fenris, Aveline, and Cullen.

(Well yes Cullen will be in the game, but who knows how.)

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motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LOL No worries... I think one was skirting the edge, but some folks also check the thread at work so we try to be careful. :D

Romance Teagan... ?  I think the fandom would explode! *fans self* LOL We sure can hope. But, I think it's a done deal that DA:I will have romances, despite some of the vitriol spat at the notion in some corners of the BSN.


*also fans self*  Teagan is a fox... and he'd now be a silver fox :o

I was thinking, there's nothing wrong with that picture! It's hot! I love how real and "fleshy" he looks! Awesome job! Then I was thinking, what if I scrolled past that picture while at work? *DELETE! DELETE! DELETE! Close all the tabs!! Exit! Delete! Ahhhhhh!*  

But maybe that would be my fault for perusing the thread at work :lol:


I know! I had played DAO soooo many times and never stumbled on the flirt-with-Teagan option until a year ago! And then I thought, "I can romance a non-party member? Woooo!" Only to find disappointment... :(

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Mahumia wrote...

But yeah, no matter what, I hope the romances will be fleshed out nicely. I rivalmanced Sebastian once... totally cute, even faked Anders death for him (he will never find out that I used a stage-knife, right? :whistle:)


LOL Maybe if I head canon this, too, I'll be able to go through with "killing" Anders?!?! :lol:

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I wonder what places we will be revisiting then? Maybe we'll find Cullen around Calenhad docks or something, after visiting the abandoned circle to put a few ghosts to rest?

*Wishful thinking*


I would seriously worry if we found him wandering around here. Like, would he be wandering out, dazed and confused, murmuring something about demons and Amell and the Rite of Anullment? Would we have to gently put our hands on his shoulders and lead him back to our castle? 

:lol:

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Seriously, just for a second imagine if the returning characters were Zevran, Fenris, Aveline, and Cullen. Did your brain just explode? Yeah, mine, too. Because that would NEVER HAPPEN. Not a one of those was romanceable by a straight male, and none is considered a straight guy's "bro."


You mean as companions or NPCs? 


I mean if they're the same as Varric, Cass, Morrigan, and Leliana. Like let's say Cullen and Fenris are companions, and Zevran and Aveline are very important NPCs that you interact with throughout the whole game (like Morrigan and Leliana).

It just wouldn't happen.

Do we know we'll be able to intetact with Morrigan and Leliana the whole game? Morrigan can still be important and only have three or four conversations with the PC like Loghain and Meredith did.

Cullen can still be a companion, Anders was a romance who transferred over from an expansion and played arguably the biggest role in DA2


They confirmed that we will have a lot of interaction/encounters with Morrigan, yes. They didn't say anything about how often we'd speak with Leliana, but there was another "kinda" leak that suggests we will.

Yeah, I mean isn't that because this game was supposed to be the resolution of her story? That and we didn't even see her in DA2 lol. 

Leliana really is BioWare's baby though, fans had very little to do with that, though I agree it's kinda crap because they could have just replaced her with Sebastian...idk


She had no need to be in DA2, we didn't do anything to warrant her returning.

Tbh, I felt that Morrigan's story was pretty much done when they sent her through the mirror. If I was still playing as the Warden then it would be of interest to her to find out what became of her friend. However, my Inquisitor doesn't know Morrigan or have any emotional ties with her, so I kinda feel like the moments past, if you get what I mean?

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motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I wonder what places we will be revisiting then? Maybe we'll find Cullen around Calenhad docks or something, after visiting the abandoned circle to put a few ghosts to rest?

*Wishful thinking*


I would seriously worry if we found him wandering around here. Like, would he be wandering out, dazed and confused, murmuring something about demons and Amell and the Rite of Anullment? Would we have to gently put our hands on his shoulders and lead him back to our castle? 

:lol:


LOL, naw. He'd just pop back to see if Greagoir was around to bollock him for joining the rebel Templars, and then do a little mini tour around the place to prove to himself that he won't let the past hold him back... or whatever.

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Its currently 95 degrees where I reside.....what is this I'm hearing about Teagan? 

Is Teagan an NPC in Inquisition?  :o


I never expected him to ever be a future companion but He's always been one of my faves............ :lol::happy::wub::wub:

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Melca36 wrote...

Its currently 95 degrees where I reside.....what is this I'm hearing about Teagan? 

Is Teagan an NPC in Inquisition?  :o


I never expected him to ever be a future companion but He's always been one of my faves............ :lol::happy::wub::wub:


Naw, we're just speculating lol.