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[R2s Muse]

Commander Kurt wrote...

Oops, time to get some beautysleep. Night, ladies!

'Nighty night!

[LolaLei]

We'll be balls deep in demons, lol.

[meanieweenie]

R2s Muse wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

I wonder if the desire demon will be in the next game. And if she is...I wonder what she'll look like. I actually found her more 'scary' in the first game.

I'd be surprised if we don't see one again since there aren't so many different types of demons and this game sounds like it's chocked full. What I really want to see is a male desire demon...  something like this or this.

This.... 1,000x this!

[Mahumia]

meanieweenie wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

I wonder if the desire demon will be in the next game. And if she is...I wonder what she'll look like. I actually found her more 'scary' in the first game.

I'd be surprised if we don't see one again since there aren't so many different types of demons and this game sounds like it's chocked full. What I really want to see is a male desire demon...  something like this or this.

This.... 1,000x this!

Count me in!

[Mahumia]

Commander Kurt wrote...

Oops, time to get some beautysleep. Night, ladies!

Sweet dreams!

[CuriousArtemis]

Mahumia wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

I wonder if the desire demon will be in the next game. And if she is...I wonder what she'll look like. I actually found her more 'scary' in the first game.

I'd be surprised if we don't see one again since there aren't so many different types of demons and this game sounds like it's chocked full. What I really want to see is a male desire demon...  something like this or this.

This.... 1,000x this!

Count me in!

Men are so stupid :innocent: always succumbing to those tarty desire demons; I would never in a million years... HOLY...!!! Hubba hubba, come to mama!!!! 

[Potato Cat]

Maybe Desire Demons could take a form corresponding the gender of your LI? And Desire Demon Classic for those Forever Alone Inquisitors.

[VampOrchid]

LolaLei wrote...

We'll be balls deep in demons, lol.

Could be a good thing depending on what your Inq fancies lol:devil:

[LolaLei]

VampOrchid wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

We'll be balls deep in demons, lol.

Could be a good thing depending on what your Inq fancies lol:devil:

She fancies Cullen... not that she's met him yet, LOL! 

[Danny Boy 7]

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

[VampOrchid]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

Well I guess that depends....

Were him and Hawke lovers? That might make a difference.

If not, did Hawke never help him with anything....

I'm thinking more Hawke, but if Hawke Royally pissed him off, then Warden

[SamaraDraven]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

I'm going to go with... Hawke. Or at least, my Hawke. More often than not she was neutral towards him but also sometimes a friend. It was rare that they were outright full rivals (despite how he may have annoyed ME personally as a player) whereas Anders has been trying to escape the Wardens and, in my view, would not want to serve the GWs' interests in any fashion if he has a choice in the matter.

Plus Hawke is more familiar to him than the Warden - at least *I* think so anyway.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 30 septembre 2013 - 02:52 .

[Danny Boy 7]

VampOrchid wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

Well I guess that depends....

Were him and Hawke lovers? That might make a difference.

If not, did Hawke never help him with anything....

I'm thinking more Hawke, but if Hawke Royally pissed him off, then Warden

I'm thinking if he were friends and or lovers with both of them. Like would Anders go with the person who saved his life and gave him the freedom he always wanted, or would he gp with the one person he truly loves , who supported him throughout everything in Kirkwall. 

There isn't a right or wrong answer, I just thought it would be a nice question to ask.

Personally I think Awakening Anders would want nothing other than to live in luxury with Hawke, but I think Anders from DA2 trusted my Warden a bit more than he did Hawke...so for his cause I can see him going with the Warden

[VampOrchid]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

Well I guess that depends....

Were him and Hawke lovers? That might make a difference.

If not, did Hawke never help him with anything....

I'm thinking more Hawke, but if Hawke Royally pissed him off, then Warden

I'm thinking if he were friends and or lovers with both of them. Like would Anders go with the person who saved his life and gave him the freedom he always wanted, or would he gp with the one person he truly loves , who supported him throughout everything in Kirkwall. 

There isn't a right or wrong answer, I just thought it would be a nice question to ask.

Personally I think Awakening Anders would want nothing other than to live in luxury with Hawke, but I think Anders from DA2 trusted my Warden a bit more than he did Hawke...so for his cause I can see him going with the Warden

I'm thinking that the more mature Anders would side with Hawke. Specially after the events of Kirkwall. I'm thinking that he would see Hawke standing by him even after something as bad as blowing up the Chantry as a sign of dedication. So he would have to do the same and support Hawke.

Warden would more then question Anders motives. My Warden was a mage, and I think she would be more then pissed with Anders actions.

[Chiantirose1982]

 
@Justice

I think I remember a dev confirming that a spirit could get corrupted. So I can see Justice taking the constant form of Vengeance, being corrupted by Anders taint from being made Grey Warden. Maybe he'll become a demon form named Vengeance? 

@Cullen being non-companion LI

You know that could be pretty awesome too. If you think about it, why would you take your special person with you and expose them to danger? My husband doesn't take me along when he deploys. You could argue that Cullen isn't a civilian, but maybe he takes a beatdown with his lyrium addiction and just can't fight as he used too ... I don't know.

[LolaLei]

Danny: I don't think Anders would want to pick sides, and in my case he wouldn't since there's no reason why Hawke and the Warden would be against each other, especially as my two are cousins and have very similar personalities.

If he had to, it would be Hawke because he's romancing mine. But aside from that, it just wouldn't happen because it would be a bit of a crap/cheap shot for a quest/outcome.

Modifié par LolaLei, 30 septembre 2013 - 10:55 .

[berelinde]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

Why would they be enemies? It's hard to imagine the outcome of a choice without context.

Both my Warden and my Hawke were aggressively pro-mage. My Warden may have been a fiercer opponent of the Circle system than my Hawke. During her Origin, she demonstrated her loyalty to the Circle by betraying Jowan, only to be accused of complicity and exiled. It left her bitter. My Hawke was willing to take Anders's reports of Circle abuse at face value, being his lover and all, and would have sacrificed himself to save him. Anders was maxed out on frinedship with both, but we don't know what happened between games. Both were as friendly toward Anders as it was possible to be, but Hawke never failed him. My Warden wouldn't have done so by choice, and I can't see her ever allowing a templar to be recruited into the Wardens as Anders's jailer. Which means that my Warden was no longer the Warden Commander at that point. If Anders blamed her for abandoning him, I could see him siding with Hawke, but again, I'm not sure what could possibly happen that would place her and Hawke on opposing sides.

I would be more curious to learn how Cullen would react to meeting my Lenira Amell again. He would have moved on, of course. He doesn't seem to be embarrassed about having once been smitten with her, but it's easier to maintain composure when the object of your youthful infatuation isn't staring you in the face. After his confession of lust and desire, I would not be surprised if he had trouble making eye contact.

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

That's an interesting question, Danny! It's easy to think that your companion is uniquely loyal to your player character... until he's been the companion of more than one. I suppose, independent of my individual characters' personalities, I'd expect him to be much closer with Hawke than the Warden. He was friends, or at least frenemies, with Hawke for seven years, continuing to work with him/her by choice. His time with the Warden-Commander was much shorter, and he seems to feel the opposite of loyalty to the Grey Wardens.

As an extension... I wonder how this will play out with Varric...?

[LolaLei]

berelinde wrote...

I would be more curious to learn how Cullen would react to meeting my Lenira Amell again. He would have moved on, of course. He doesn't seem to be embarrassed about having once been smitten with her, but it's easier to maintain composure when the object of your youthful infatuation isn't staring you in the face. After his confession of lust and desire, I would not be surprised if he had trouble making eye contact.

I'm curious about what would happen if they were to meet again too. In my Warden's case, she was an Amell who was completely oblivious to Cullen's affections, and just put it down to petty rumours going around the circle, especially since Cullen makes it clear that until that point he'd never actually spoken to her. She thought he was handsome though, since she's me and I certainly found/find him attractive, LOL.

He was pretty rude to her when she came to rescue him (understandably) and in my mind, she wouldn't have held a grudge knowing what the poor boy had just been through, especially upon discovering that the rumours had been true about his feelings for her. She (being that she's supposed to be me) would've been interested to know if he recovered alright (because she/I am nosy like that, and would hope that he'd be ok), and perhaps would've asked after him if she happened upon someone who knew him/met him.

As for Cullen's feelings, I would hope by now that he'd be old enough and wise enough to realise that it was a young naive crush that everyone gets and that the only reason he'd feel a little awkward seeing her again would be due to the way he was so rude to her when they had last met. Beyond that, I'd hope that he'd be proud of her acomplishments just like my Warden would be proud of the man Cullen was shaping into and relieved that he hadn't turned into a stark raving loony (like the rumours claimed). If I get my way, Cullen will be so infatuated with my Inquisitor that any feelings he once had for my Warden all those years ago simply pale in comparison (because the Inquisitor is super amazing!)  

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

That's an interesting question, Danny! It's easy to think that your companion is uniquely loyal to your player character... until he's been the companion of more than one. I suppose, independent of my individual characters' personalities, I'd expect him to be much closer with Hawke than the Warden. He was friends, or at least frenemies, with Hawke for seven years, continuing to work with him/her by choice. His time with the Warden-Commander was much shorter, and he seems to feel the opposite of loyalty to the Grey Wardens.

As an extension... I wonder how this will play out with Varric...?

I think Varric is everyone's bro, so long as they're nice to him LOL! Good ol' Varric. <3

[meanieweenie]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

That's an interesting question, Danny! It's easy to think that your companion is uniquely loyal to your player character... until he's been the companion of more than one. I suppose, independent of my individual characters' personalities, I'd expect him to be much closer with Hawke than the Warden. He was friends, or at least frenemies, with Hawke for seven years, continuing to work with him/her by choice. His time with the Warden-Commander was much shorter, and he seems to feel the opposite of loyalty to the Grey Wardens.

As an extension... I wonder how this will play out with Varric...?

I think Varric is everyone's bro, so long as they're nice to him LOL! Good ol' Varric. <3

Unless your Inquisitor is shown undeniable evidence that Hawke made a bad situation worse in Kirkwall. Then there will be finger pointing and arguing. I can hear Varric yelling "But you weren't there!" in Hawke's defense. 

[LolaLei]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

That's an interesting question, Danny! It's easy to think that your companion is uniquely loyal to your player character... until he's been the companion of more than one. I suppose, independent of my individual characters' personalities, I'd expect him to be much closer with Hawke than the Warden. He was friends, or at least frenemies, with Hawke for seven years, continuing to work with him/her by choice. His time with the Warden-Commander was much shorter, and he seems to feel the opposite of loyalty to the Grey Wardens.

As an extension... I wonder how this will play out with Varric...?

I think Varric is everyone's bro, so long as they're nice to him LOL! Good ol' Varric. <3

Unless your Inquisitor is shown undeniable evidence that Hawke made a bad situation worse in Kirkwall. Then there will be finger pointing and arguing. I can hear Varric yelling "But you weren't there!" in Hawke's defense. 

Lol, to be fair my Inquisitor would be like "meh, **** happens!" 

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

I would be more curious to learn how Cullen would react to meeting my Lenira Amell again. He would have moved on, of course. He doesn't seem to be embarrassed about having once been smitten with her, but it's easier to maintain composure when the object of your youthful infatuation isn't staring you in the face. After his confession of lust and desire, I would not be surprised if he had trouble making eye contact.

I'm curious about what would happen if they were to meet again too. In my Warden's case, she was an Amell who was completely oblivious to Cullen's affections, and just put it down to petty rumours going around the circle, especially since Cullen makes it clear that until that point he'd never actually spoken to her. She thought he was handsome though, since she's me and I certainly found/find him attractive, LOL.

He was pretty rude to her when she came to rescue him (understandably) and in my mind, she wouldn't have held a grudge knowing what the poor boy had just been through, especially upon discovering that the rumours had been true about his feelings for her. She (being that she's supposed to be me) would've been interested to know if he recovered alright (because she/I am nosy like that, and would hope that he'd be ok), and perhaps would've asked after him if she happened upon someone who knew him/met him.

As for Cullen's feelings, I would hope by now that he'd be old enough and wise enough to realise that it was a young naive crush that everyone gets and that the only reason he'd feel a little awkward seeing her again would be due to the way he was so rude to her when they had last met. Beyond that, I'd hope that he'd be proud of her acomplishments just like my Warden would be proud of the man Cullen was shaping into and relieved that he hadn't turned into a stark raving loony (like the rumours claimed). If I get my way, Cullen will be so infatuated with my Inquisitor that any feelings he once had for my Warden all those years ago simply pale in comparison (because the Inquisitor is super amazing!)  

I don't have an Amell import, altho admittedly I might create one just to see this. Based on his DA2 reaction, remembering his crush on  her fondly, I could see a range of reactions. If he'd never spoken to her again after what he said in the cage... I could almost see that backing up on him and making for an awkward conversation. I headcanon him as not being the most socially astute person, so I could see him having difficulty knowing quite what to say at first. "Oh, hi, remember me?  I was that guy who had a crush on you but only spoke to you once... Yeah, that was before I, um, went postal and said some rude sh!t... yeah... so.... um... I hear, you, um, saved the world..." *crickets*

I could also see, depending on how 'hardened' he is by the time we see him, him sort of shutting that part of his life away and not wanting to even mention it. Doing the stiff upper lip thing. 

But, overall, I see the cage conversation as being a much more awkward point than a simple crush. At his age, that would be like telling the prom queen you had a crush on her when you run into her at the high school reunion. A point of interest (maybe), but in the past.

In all events, *if* he's going to be an LI ... I don't want to see him still carrying a torch. Not the kind of angst that interests me.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 septembre 2013 - 01:36 .

[R2s Muse]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So, talking about Anders I was wondering who you all thought he would side with if the Warden and Hawke found themselves enemies. Not necessarily pro Templar or anything, but just enemies.

That's an interesting question, Danny! It's easy to think that your companion is uniquely loyal to your player character... until he's been the companion of more than one. I suppose, independent of my individual characters' personalities, I'd expect him to be much closer with Hawke than the Warden. He was friends, or at least frenemies, with Hawke for seven years, continuing to work with him/her by choice. His time with the Warden-Commander was much shorter, and he seems to feel the opposite of loyalty to the Grey Wardens.

As an extension... I wonder how this will play out with Varric...?

I think Varric is everyone's bro, so long as they're nice to him LOL! Good ol' Varric. <3

Unless your Inquisitor is shown undeniable evidence that Hawke made a bad situation worse in Kirkwall. Then there will be finger pointing and arguing. I can hear Varric yelling "But you weren't there!" in Hawke's defense. 

LOL Yeeeah, I would hope we'd see Varric being loyal to Hawke given their relationship... which is why I think having him as a full companion AGAIN is going to be ... curious to say the least.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 septembre 2013 - 01:32 .

[LolaLei]

Speaking of Cullen's past crush on the female Amell/Surana and the possibility of him being a love interest, I wonder if he would actually romance a mage class Inquisitor?

If so, I wonder what was/will be the turning point for him in realising that he wouldn't be committing a sin? OR if he does still think/feel that the Maker will "know his sin" by actively falling for and romancing a mage, what would be the catalyst that would push him to not care whether the Maker punished him or not?

I think I kinda like the idea of him still believing/feeling that it's a sin and initially (as they start to flirt/bond) feeling guilty for having lusty thoughts and urges about the mage Inquisitor, knowing that he will be punished/judged when it's his time to meet the Maker. Then as the friendship develops from obvious attraction/lust to infatuation and love he realises that he can no longer deny himself and that he loves her/him so much that he'd rather face eternal damnation than face the rest of his life without her/him.
... And if he tells my Inquisitor that, then you'll find me in a mushy squeeing pile on the floor!  

Modifié par LolaLei, 30 septembre 2013 - 01:49 .