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I keep wondering if Mellora will post it herself ... so if you'd prefer, my dear, please let me know!!

But, here's another lovely DA:I Cullen scene from her.

Exiled (WIP) by MellorianJ

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edit: From devart:
"Another scene of what could be Cullen's story in Inquisition.

Here he is with fellow templars in a camp.
As described on Tumblr I wanted to have him quietly reading a book. Then I drew this worried, stern look and I decided to leave him as he is now, deep in his thoughts. Also I put his right hand on his belly, as if he
was still suffering from an old wound."

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LolaLei wrote...

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I would be more curious to learn how Cullen would react to meeting my Lenira Amell again. He would have moved on, of course. He doesn't seem to be embarrassed about having once been smitten with her, but it's easier to maintain composure when the object of your youthful infatuation isn't staring you in the face. After his confession of lust and desire, I would not be surprised if he had trouble making eye contact.


I'm curious about what would happen if they were to meet again too. In my Warden's case, she was an Amell who was completely oblivious to Cullen's affections, and just put it down to petty rumours going around the circle, especially since Cullen makes it clear that until that point he'd never actually spoken to her. She thought he was handsome though, since she's me and I certainly found/find him attractive, LOL.

He was pretty rude to her when she came to rescue him (understandably) and in my mind, she wouldn't have held a grudge knowing what the poor boy had just been through, especially upon discovering that the rumours had been true about his feelings for her. She (being that she's supposed to be me) would've been interested to know if he recovered alright (because she/I am nosy like that, and would hope that he'd be ok), and perhaps would've asked after him if she happened upon someone who knew him/met him.

As for Cullen's feelings, I would hope by now that he'd be old enough and wise enough to realise that it was a young naive crush that everyone gets and that the only reason he'd feel a little awkward seeing her again would be due to the way he was so rude to her when they had last met. Beyond that, I'd hope that he'd be proud of her acomplishments just like my Warden would be proud of the man Cullen was shaping into and relieved that he hadn't turned into a stark raving loony (like the rumours claimed). If I get my way, Cullen will be so infatuated with my Inquisitor that any feelings he once had for my Warden all those years ago simply pale in comparison (because the Inquisitor is super amazing!) :lol: 

I don't have an Amell import, altho admittedly I might create one just to see this. Based on his DA2 reaction, remembering his crush on  her fondly, I could see a range of reactions. If he'd never spoken to her again after what he said in the cage... I could almost see that backing up on him and making for an awkward conversation. I headcanon him as not being the most socially astute person, so I could see him having difficulty knowing quite what to say at first. "Oh, hi, remember me?  I was that guy who had a crush on you but only spoke to you once... Yeah, that was before I, um, went postal and said some rude sh!t... yeah... so.... um... I hear, you, um, saved the world..." *crickets*

I could also see, depending on how 'hardened' he is by the time we see him, him sort of shutting that part of his life away and not wanting to even mention it. Doing the stiff upper lip thing. 

But, overall, I see the cage conversation as being a much more awkward point than a simple crush. At his age, that would be like telling the prom queen you had a crush on her when you run into her at the high school reunion. A point of interest (maybe), but in the past.

In all events, *if* he's going to be an LI ... I don't want to see him still carrying a torch. Not the kind of angst that interests me.


Yeah, I wouldn't want him to still be pining after her, or making comparisons between Amell/Surana and the Inquisitor. I think the fact that he said he "never met her like again", kinda points to the fact that he was more in awe of the type of woman Amell/Surana was and what she acomplished by defeating the Blight. Sure, he was wistfully thinking of the Warden, but he was also making it clear what his type of woman (and probably man) that he's into. It seems our Cullen doesn't settle for the norm, LOL!

Now, the Inquisitor not only witnesses, but is the sole survivor of the veil rip and is the only person who can sort all this sh!t out. Not to mention that she/he will actually have to create the Inquisition from the ground up, grow it, lead it to power, AND find a way to close the veil tear and defeat the big bad. Hell, if that doesn't put the Inquisitor above and beyond the Warden's ranking of "her like" (strong, powerful, forward thinking etc) then I dunno what is! :lol:

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Speaking of Cullen's past crush on the female Amell/Surana and the possibility of him being a love interest, I wonder if he would actually romance a mage class Inquisitor?

Well, I've said it before, but I see a whole new mess of complications for him stemming from the fact that there are no longer Circles in DA:I. Technically, it's not fraternization if she's not a Circle mage, and I see him being all about the rules. Nevertheless, I see him struggling with the fact that although it technically would be permitted, he'd still have some internal concerns from his old prejudices about how "mages cannot be our friends" that will be hard to shake.

Will he have greater trust issues with a mage than a non-mage? Probably (although I question how much of that we'd actually see in game). I would think that his PTSD would kick in there, perhaps more so than his training.

Can he let down his guard with anyone? I would hope that would be a central issue for any romance with him. I still like the notion that it would be hard for him to choose his own happiness over the collective good, so I'd want to see that war within him.

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R2s Muse wrote...

I keep wondering if Mellora will post it herself ... so if you'd prefer, my dear, please let me know!!

But, here's another lovely DA:I Cullen scene from her.

Exiled (WIP) by MellorianJ

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Aw, look at that face! He looks so melancholic and exhausted. Poor thing.

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LolaLei wrote...

Yeah, I wouldn't want him to still be pining after her, or making comparisons between Amell/Surana and the Inquisitor. I think the fact that he said he "never met her like again", kinda points to the fact that he was more in awe of the type of woman Amell/Surana was and what she acomplished by defeating the Blight. Sure, he was wistfully thinking of the Warden, but he was also making it clear what his type of woman (and probably man) that he's into. It seems our Cullen doesn't settle for the norm, LOL!

Now, the Inquisitor not only witnesses, but is the sole survivor of the veil rip and is the only person who can sort all this sh!t out. Not to mention that she/he will actually have to create the Inquisition from the ground up, grow it, lead it to power, AND find a way to close the veil tear and defeat the big bad. Hell, if that doesn't put the Inquisitor above and beyond the Warden's ranking of "her like" (strong, powerful, forward thinking etc) then I dunno what is! :lol:

Oh man... this is just what I was thinking. That he could have a sort of hero worship kind of thing with the Warden, idealizing her a bit in the sense that she's kind of a rockstar. Now I'm imagining a delicious scene when Cullen and Inquisitor run into the Amell/Surana Warden. Imagining him sort of fangirling, in a restrained and very diplomatic way, much to Inquisitor's extreme annoyance.  Inquisitor is sufficiently annoyed/jealous that she starts to try to one-up the Warden, who just smiles Mona Lisa-like, in complete understanding of what's going on.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Speaking of Cullen's past crush on the female Amell/Surana and the possibility of him being a love interest, I wonder if he would actually romance a mage class Inquisitor?

Well, I've said it before, but I see a whole new mess of complications for him stemming from the fact that there are no longer Circles in DA:I. Technically, it's not fraternization if she's not a Circle mage, and I see him being all about the rules. Nevertheless, I see him struggling with the fact that although it technically would be permitted, he'd still have some internal concerns from his old prejudices about how "mages cannot be our friends" that will be hard to shake.

Will he have greater trust issues with a mage than a non-mage? Probably (although I question how much of that we'd actually see in game). I would think that his PTSD would kick in there, perhaps more so than his training.

Can he let down his guard with anyone? I would hope that would be a central issue for any romance with him. I still like the notion that it would be hard for him to choose his own happiness over the collective good, so I'd want to see that war within him.


Yeah, the mage thing would only serve as an extra layer but not a huge one since it would seem like one class would be favoured over another... unless that's something they'll do for all the classes and races depending on the LI's preferences.

But anyway, I think no matter what type of class, race or gender Cullen romances he's gonna have a few issues... or at least, he certainly should do. It seems highly likely that he's gonna be very battle weary since he's faced constant struggle and both physical and inner battles, so that will hopefully feature heavily in his story arc.

Whatever they do with his story arc, I hope they do it justice.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Yeah, I wouldn't want him to still be pining after her, or making comparisons between Amell/Surana and the Inquisitor. I think the fact that he said he "never met her like again", kinda points to the fact that he was more in awe of the type of woman Amell/Surana was and what she acomplished by defeating the Blight. Sure, he was wistfully thinking of the Warden, but he was also making it clear what his type of woman (and probably man) that he's into. It seems our Cullen doesn't settle for the norm, LOL!

Now, the Inquisitor not only witnesses, but is the sole survivor of the veil rip and is the only person who can sort all this sh!t out. Not to mention that she/he will actually have to create the Inquisition from the ground up, grow it, lead it to power, AND find a way to close the veil tear and defeat the big bad. Hell, if that doesn't put the Inquisitor above and beyond the Warden's ranking of "her like" (strong, powerful, forward thinking etc) then I dunno what is! :lol:

Oh man... this is just what I was thinking. That he could have a sort of hero worship kind of thing with the Warden, idealizing her a bit in the sense that she's kind of a rockstar. Now I'm imagining a delicious scene when Cullen and Inquisitor run into the Amell/Surana Warden. Imagining him sort of fangirling, in a restrained and very diplomatic way, much to Inquisitor's extreme annoyance.  Inquisitor is sufficiently annoyed/jealous that she starts to try to one-up the Warden, who just smiles Mona Lisa-like, in complete understanding of what's going on.


Oh man, I would be SO pissed if he done that! :lol:

It's funny to think that someone who seems so reserved, sensible and orderly has a preference for the hero type. Y'know what? It could actually be that he admires those traits so much because it's everything that he can't be. Heroes are free to roam around killing the bad guys and have adventures, and they always get the girl etc, whilst he's stuck in a tower (mostly). If it's still true that he wanted to be a Knight (since they cut that dialogue from the vanilla game) then it sounds like he had a bit of a romantic idea about what it meant to be a hero.

Despite the fact that he's grown up and is experienced now, at his core he's probably still a little starry eyed and wistful at the powerful image a hero conjures, so if he meets a woman (or man) that he's physically attracted to that then turns out to be the hero type (like the Warden) then of course he's going to be smitten!

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LolaLei wrote...

Speaking of Cullen's past crush on the female Amell/Surana and the possibility of him being a love interest, I wonder if he would actually romance a mage class Inquisitor?

If so, I wonder what was/will be the turning point for him in realising that he wouldn't be committing a sin? OR if he does still think/feel that the Maker will "know his sin" by actively falling for and romancing a mage, what would be the catalyst that would push him to not care whether the Maker punished him or not?

I think I kinda like the idea of him still believing/feeling that it's a sin and initially (as they start to flirt/bond) feeling guilty for having lusty thoughts and urges about the mage Inquisitor, knowing that he will be punished/judged when it's his time to meet the Maker. Then as the friendship develops from obvious attraction/lust to infatuation and love he realises that he can no longer deny himself and that he loves her/him so much that he'd rather face eternal damnation than face the rest of his life without her/him.
... And if he tells my Inquisitor that, then you'll find me in a mushy squeeing pile on the floor! :wub: :lol:



Gotta say..... this post melted my heart <3<3<3<3<3<3

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I could also see, depending on how 'hardened' he is by the time we see him, him sort of shutting that part of his life away and not wanting to even mention it. Doing the stiff upper lip thing. 

But, overall, I see the cage conversation as being a much more awkward point than a simple crush. At his age, that would be like telling the prom queen you had a crush on her when you run into her at the high school reunion. A point of interest (maybe), but in the past.

In all events, *if* he's going to be an LI ... I don't want to see him still carrying a torch. Not the kind of angst that interests me.

I too see the cage conversation as having more of an effect on somebody than a youthful crush. I don't know about the rest of you, but I still cringe about awkward things I said years ago. Bumping into that crush at a high school reunion isn't terribly uncomfortable, even if it involves saying something like "You look fantastic, but you always did. I had such a crush on you sophomore year!" It's a lot harder to make graceful smalltalk after stalkerish photos were found during a locker search.

I wouldn't expect him to be carrying a torch for her, certainly, but I might expect him to be a little self-conscious about making a donkey of himself.

Lola, you raised an interesting point at the bottom of the last page, but I have to get back to work! The conversation will probably have moved on by the time I get back, but I hope the thread doesn't mind a little Cullen-related rambling.

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berelinde wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

I could also see, depending on how 'hardened' he is by the time we see him, him sort of shutting that part of his life away and not wanting to even mention it. Doing the stiff upper lip thing. 

But, overall, I see the cage conversation as being a much more awkward point than a simple crush. At his age, that would be like telling the prom queen you had a crush on her when you run into her at the high school reunion. A point of interest (maybe), but in the past.

In all events, *if* he's going to be an LI ... I don't want to see him still carrying a torch. Not the kind of angst that interests me.

I too see the cage conversation as having more of an effect on somebody than a youthful crush. I don't know about the rest of you, but I still cringe about awkward things I said years ago. Bumping into that crush at a high school reunion isn't terribly uncomfortable, even if it involves saying something like "You look fantastic, but you always did. I had such a crush on you sophomore year!" It's a lot harder to make graceful smalltalk after stalkerish photos were found during a locker search.

I wouldn't expect him to be carrying a torch for her, certainly, but I might expect him to be a little self-conscious about making a donkey of himself.

Lola, you raised an interesting point at the bottom of the last page, but I have to get back to work! The conversation will probably have moved on by the time I get back, but I hope the thread doesn't mind a little Cullen-related rambling.


That's ok, we can go back to it later when you've finished work!

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LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

I could also see, depending on how 'hardened' he is by the time we see him, him sort of shutting that part of his life away and not wanting to even mention it. Doing the stiff upper lip thing. 

But, overall, I see the cage conversation as being a much more awkward point than a simple crush. At his age, that would be like telling the prom queen you had a crush on her when you run into her at the high school reunion. A point of interest (maybe), but in the past.

In all events, *if* he's going to be an LI ... I don't want to see him still carrying a torch. Not the kind of angst that interests me.

I too see the cage conversation as having more of an effect on somebody than a youthful crush. I don't know about the rest of you, but I still cringe about awkward things I said years ago. Bumping into that crush at a high school reunion isn't terribly uncomfortable, even if it involves saying something like "You look fantastic, but you always did. I had such a crush on you sophomore year!" It's a lot harder to make graceful smalltalk after stalkerish photos were found during a locker search.

I wouldn't expect him to be carrying a torch for her, certainly, but I might expect him to be a little self-conscious about making a donkey of himself.

Lola, you raised an interesting point at the bottom of the last page, but I have to get back to work! The conversation will probably have moved on by the time I get back, but I hope the thread doesn't mind a little Cullen-related rambling.


That's ok, we can go back to it later when you've finished work!

LOL Indeed! I think we could do with a little Cullen-related rambling! :wizard:

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Does anyone else cringe during Anders' and Hawke's first kiss because of those sloppy kissing noises? Just me?

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LolaLei wrote...

Does anyone else cringe during Anders' and Hawke's first kiss because of those sloppy kissing noises? Just me?


At first I couldn't help giggling because I thought it was goofy. But after a while I realized that a very passionate kiss will have sounds so I think of that as more endearing now. Like poor Anders was so hungry for human affection that he would literally devour her if he could. ;)

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LolaLei wrote...

Does anyone else cringe during Anders' and Hawke's first kiss because of those sloppy kissing noises? Just me?

On one hand, I like it. As it seems pretty.. hot and desperate, a little crazed? But on the other hand. Yep, definitely messy sounds, which. Are not pleasing, to say the least.
I heard Adam Howden had to make out with his hand to get those noises. :lol:

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Lord Xendria wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Does anyone else cringe during Anders' and Hawke's first kiss because of those sloppy kissing noises? Just me?

On one hand, I like it. As it seems pretty.. hot and desperate, a little crazed? But on the other hand. Yep, definitely messy sounds, which. Are not pleasing, to say the least.
I heard Adam Howden had to make out with his hand to get those noises. :lol:


LOL, it just makes me laugh and cringe all at the same time! I've been in the throws of passion many times, and it certainly didn't sound like that! :lol::lol::lol:

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Everyone else had little noises, or it cut to the love music. I think they did it that way on purpose for Anders, made it all heavy breathing and loud. Haven't they said you can click on your in-game lover and give 'em a smooch in DA:I? I wonder if you can woo hoo tent them whenever you want, too..

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Lord Xendria wrote...

Everyone else had little noises, or it cut to the love music. I think they did it that way on purpose for Anders, made it all heavy breathing and loud. Haven't they said you can click on your in-game lover and give 'em a smooch in DA:I? I wonder if you can woo hoo tent them whenever you want, too..

OMG, when I first read this I suddenly imagined, instead of sloppy kissing noises, the Inquisitor fist pumping and saying, "Woo hoo!" whenever  he/she got kissed. Bwahaha!:lol::lol:

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The heavy kissing noises never really bothered me... Thought it was quite hot to have Anders so 'hungry' XD

Oh lol, I wonder how many times Adam Howden had to record that... I would fall from my chair laughing if I would have to do that,

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R2s Muse wrote...

Lord Xendria wrote...

Everyone else had little noises, or it cut to the love music. I think they did it that way on purpose for Anders, made it all heavy breathing and loud. Haven't they said you can click on your in-game lover and give 'em a smooch in DA:I? I wonder if you can woo hoo tent them whenever you want, too..

OMG, when I first read this I suddenly imagined, instead of sloppy kissing noises, the Inquisitor fist pumping and saying, "Woo hoo!" whenever  he/she got kissed. Bwahaha!:lol::lol:


That would be hilarious!

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Lord Xendria wrote...

Everyone else had little noises, or it cut to the love music. I think they did it that way on purpose for Anders, made it all heavy breathing and loud. Haven't they said you can click on your in-game lover and give 'em a smooch in DA:I? I wonder if you can woo hoo tent them whenever you want, too..

OMG, when I first read this I suddenly imagined, instead of sloppy kissing noises, the Inquisitor fist pumping and saying, "Woo hoo!" whenever  he/she got kissed. Bwahaha!:lol::lol:


That would be hilarious!

LOL


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Sooo.... just had to share, I'm writing a scene today with Cassandra facing off with Cullen... Oh. Yeah. I sure hope they get to throw down in DA:I.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Sooo.... just had to share, I'm writing a scene today with Cassandra facing off with Cullen... Oh. Yeah. I sure hope they get to throw down in DA:I.

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I was totally trying to record this scene with Cullen as Varric, but for some reason Varric always turns back to his Dwarf self in those scenes, despite the fact that I change his appearance in my save file.

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LolaLei wrote...

Does anyone else cringe during Anders' and Hawke's first kiss because of those sloppy kissing noises? Just me?


I always think he's chowing down on a really messy sandwich whenever I have that scene. It just kind of makes me...
:blink::pinched::?:unsure::sick:

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Sooo.... just had to share, I'm writing a scene today with Cassandra facing off with Cullen... Oh. Yeah. I sure hope they get to throw down in DA:I.

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I was totally trying to record this scene with Cullen as Varric, but for some reason Varric always turns back to his Dwarf self in those scenes, despite the fact that I change his appearance in my save file.

Hmm, it's probably because Varric's not a party member in those scenes. So his appearance isn't governed by your save file. I did these with the apr_base.gda file, renaming the call to Carver's templar appearance to have Varric's body ID (1072). That, and rename cullen head to varric.

EDIT: However, keep in mind that he doesn't sit in the chair, but floats because of the dwarf to human mismatch. So not really video worthy, unless you crop it somehow.

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Sooo.... just had to share, I'm writing a scene today with Cassandra facing off with Cullen... Oh. Yeah. I sure hope they get to throw down in DA:I.

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I was totally trying to record this scene with Cullen as Varric, but for some reason Varric always turns back to his Dwarf self in those scenes, despite the fact that I change his appearance in my save file.


Oh yes! :wub: