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Actually the mod is by Cmessaz who made the Cullen romance mod.

Yes, but my understanding is that the cutscene of the kiss ("stolen kiss") was developed for cmessaz's mod by dahlialynn.


Wow, that kiss is better than all the official ones!! :kissing:

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It makes me wonder why the DA team didn't just make the kisses like that in the first place. I mean, it can't be that hard if mods can do it.

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LolaLei wrote...

It makes me wonder why the DA team didn't just make the kisses like that in the first place. I mean, it can't be that hard if mods can do it.


I wouldn't be surprised if it was expediency. IIRC, the vanilla game uses the exact same kiss cutscene for every romance. If they showed it to us, instead of having the LI turn his/her back, I bet they'd have all sorts of clipping issues with each character. I imagine they would then need a different kiss for each... I guess  sorta like they did in DA2.

But, boy, it does add something that he seems to be devouring her... :wub:

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R2s Muse wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Actually the mod is by Cmessaz who made the Cullen romance mod.

Yes, but my understanding is that the cutscene of the kiss ("stolen kiss") was developed for cmessaz's mod by dahlialynn.


While that is true Cmessaz still did most of the work and she has done other mods to.

I know dahlialynn is a fantastic modder but Cmessaz happens to be a friend and I just don't want to see her forgotten either. :)

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Melca36 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Actually the mod is by Cmessaz who made the Cullen romance mod.

Yes, but my understanding is that the cutscene of the kiss ("stolen kiss") was developed for cmessaz's mod by dahlialynn.


While that is true Cmessaz still did most of the work and she has done other mods to.

I know dahlialynn is a fantastic modder but Cmessaz happens to be a friend and I just don't want to see her forgotten either. :)

Ah I see. Just going based on how they attributed their contributions! Good to know. I always figured the cutscene was more standalone than that.

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Hey guys! Dahlialynn did the stolen kiss scene, but the rest and all the scripting, etc was done by me. I greatly appreciate all her hard work on the scene though it turned out beautiful. Glad people enjoy it!

Also, thanks Melca :)

Modifié par cmessaz, 18 juillet 2012 - 06:30 .


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LolaLei wrote...

It makes me wonder why the DA team didn't just make the kisses like that in the first place. I mean, it can't be that hard if mods can do it.

I totally agree but to be fair it takes us days-weeks of working in the editor to make it this way, a luxury the devs don't really have for one scene. That's the beauty of modding though, we take an idea and can spend as much time as we want on it with no deadlines, etc.

Anyway hoping for Cullen as an LI in 3! <3

Modifié par cmessaz, 18 juillet 2012 - 06:37 .


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cmessaz wrote...

Hey guys! Dahlialynn did the stolen kiss scene, but the rest and all the scripting, etc was done by me. I greatly appreciate all her hard work on the scene though it turned out beautiful. Glad people enjoy it!

Also, thanks Melca :)


You're welcome. :happy:


I know you put it alot of sweat and tears over your mods and I hate to see you overlooked since you have also contributed to the added enjoyment of Origins and if there had been a toolset for DA2, you would have done the same for it as well. :)

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cmessaz wrote...

Hey guys! Dahlialynn did the stolen kiss scene, but the rest and all the scripting, etc was done by me. I greatly appreciate all her hard work on the scene though it turned out beautiful. Glad people enjoy it!

Also, thanks Melca :)

Thanks for the clarification, cmessaz, and certainly no disrespect intended! The mod is amazing, BTW, so oceans of kudos to you! I can't imagine how much effort it must take. I certainly hope that's not the last and only time we get to see a Cullen kiss. :P

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R2s Muse wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Hey guys! Dahlialynn did the stolen kiss scene, but the rest and all the scripting, etc was done by me. I greatly appreciate all her hard work on the scene though it turned out beautiful. Glad people enjoy it!

Also, thanks Melca :)

Thanks for the clarification, cmessaz, and certainly no disrespect intended! The mod is amazing, BTW, so oceans of kudos to you! I can't imagine how much effort it must take. I certainly hope that's not the last and only time we get to see a Cullen kiss. :P

No problem I wasn't offended or anything. Dahlia did work her butt off on the scene like she always does. Thanks for the kudos though!

Let's hope DA3 has a toolset so I can get back to DA modding. :/

cmessaz wrote...

Hey guys! Dahlialynn did the stolen kiss
scene, but the rest and all the scripting, etc was done by me. I greatly
appreciate all her hard work on the scene though it turned out
beautiful. Glad people enjoy it!

Also, thanks Melca [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]


You're welcome. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]


I
know you put it alot of sweat and tears over your mods and I hate to
see you overlooked since you have also contributed to the added
enjoyment of Origins and if there had been a toolset for DA2, you would
have done the same for it as well. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

Damned right I would have :P

Edit: please forgive my quoting fail. :mellow:

Modifié par cmessaz, 18 juillet 2012 - 06:52 .


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All these mods (especially the Cullen romance mod) makes me sad I don't own a PC and play games on it. It's just the 360 for me.

 

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cmessaz wrote...

Let's hope DA3 has a toolset so I can get back to DA modding. :/

Hear, hear! I wonder if the slightly more 'generous' timing for DA3 would allow this. Gosh... and if it worked on DA2, as well... hmm... I see thousands of DA fans crying out in delight!

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I'm hoping DA3 will be something special, I would hate to feel as sparse and shallow as DA2 did.

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It makes me wonder why the DA team didn't just make the kisses like that in the first place. I mean, it can't be that hard if mods can do it.


I wouldn't be surprised if it was expediency. IIRC, the vanilla game uses the exact same kiss cutscene for every romance. If they showed it to us, instead of having the LI turn his/her back, I bet they'd have all sorts of clipping issues with each character. I imagine they would then need a different kiss for each... I guess  sorta like they did in DA2.
But, boy, it does add something that he seems to be devouring her... :wub:


You're right. vanilla kiss scenes are all the same in DA:O, with perhaps a slight variation on camera angles. You're also right about the clipping. I spent 3 weeks 24/7 trying to get characters to align visibly using a myriad of animations and combinations for Alistair only. I can't imagine what it would take for every possible combination, so I can understand why devs went with the "view from the back" approach.


R2s Muse wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Hey guys!
Dahlialynn did the stolen kiss scene, but the rest and all the
scripting, etc was done by me. I greatly appreciate all her hard work on
the scene though it turned out beautiful. Glad people enjoy it!

Also, thanks Melca [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

Thanks for the clarification, cmessaz, and certainly no disrespect intended! The mod is amazing, BTW, so oceans of kudos to you! I can't imagine how much effort it must take. I certainly hope that's not the last and only time we get to see a Cullen kiss. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]


Thanks for the kudos guys:) Indeed, Cmessaz conceived and painstakingly developed the mod's working design and implementation. I just created the kiss scene for her to use within the innovative framework that she built for the Cullen fans to enjoy ;)

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:12 .


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Thanks for the kudos guys:) Indeed, Cmessaz conceived and painstakingly developed the mod's working design and implementation. I just created the kiss scene for her to use within the innovative framework that she built for the Cullen fans to enjoy ;)


LOL you make it sound far easier than it was for you to make the scene. I know you put a lot of effort and heart into your scenes so, much kudos for that. I greatly appreciate it.

Don't have many screenshots anymore but here is a Cullen.
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Not a great one but there it is.

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cmessaz wrote...


Thanks for the kudos guys:) Indeed, Cmessaz conceived and painstakingly developed the mod's working design and implementation. I just created the kiss scene for her to use within the innovative framework that she built for the Cullen fans to enjoy ;)


LOL you make it sound far easier than it was for you to make the scene. I know you put a lot of effort and heart into your scenes so, much kudos for that. I greatly appreciate it.

*phew* The whole process sounds painstaking for you both, so many thanks for creating something that you also shared with the rest of us!! It must be gratifying that half the "dragon age cullen" hits on youtube are that kiss scene. :D

Don't have many screenshots anymore but here is a Cullen.
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Not a great one but there it is.


Heh, I beg to differ... :wub:

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DahliaLynn wrote...

You're right. vanilla kiss scenes are all the same in DA:O, with perhaps a slight variation on camera angles. You're also right about the clipping. I spent 3 weeks 24/7 trying to get characters to align visibly using a myriad of animations and combinations for Alistair only. I can't imagine what it would take for every possible combination, so I can understand why devs went with the "view from the back" approach.


Oh wow, that Alistair scene... I see what you mean. "The benefits of traveling alone..." Is that unused dialogue?

#6469
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R2s Muse wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...

You're right. vanilla kiss scenes are all the same in DA:O, with perhaps a slight variation on camera angles. You're also right about the clipping. I spent 3 weeks 24/7 trying to get characters to align visibly using a myriad of animations and combinations for Alistair only. I can't imagine what it would take for every possible combination, so I can understand why devs went with the "view from the back" approach.


Oh wow, that Alistair scene... I see what you mean. "The benefits of traveling alone..." Is that unused dialogue?

I believe that it is used, it's if you only take Alistair with you somewhere and kiss him. I think anyway it's been a while.

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Yeah you get it when there's only him and the Warden. I missed being able to randomly kiss your LI and watch how the other companions react in DA2, that was one of the best things about DA:O.

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