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#64901
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Chanda wrote...

Um... This kind of reminds me of us, lol. From the same artist, BaliCakes.

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LOL She goes by hyperbali (or just Bali). It's from asktheknightcaptain.tumblr.com, a collaboration she did with blamethetemplar, whose tumblr name has since changed.

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#64902
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LolaLei wrote...

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I don't remember seeing a pic of Morrigan though and she's been huge with the early marketing. I guess that's why I'm inclined more to believe companions.....which has absolutely nothing at all to do with wishful thinking....it's reasoned....really!


We already knew enough about Morrigan though, same reason why Varric wasn't in the survey leak either.

Cullen and Cassandra were the only two characters in the survey that we'd already met previously. I think Cass was mentioned because we already knew that she was going to play a part in DAI anyway, and Cullen was shown because he's still a bit of an enigma due to us knowing very little about his personal life or history (beyond what we saw happen to him across two games).

And, keep in mind, the point of the survey was to test market their ideas. If Morrigan's a done deal, there's no point to test her. Nor Varric. Cassandra for all her certainty for  becoming companion still is new. And, note, they only tested her 'new' appearance in the survey.

As far as everything from the survey being in the game... my guess from DG's protestations is that there's at least one thing in it  that no longer holds true. Whether that's one of the character description has changed or one of the characters isn't it the game at all, that remains to be seen. But I doubt all of it is correct; otherwise why do a marketing survey?

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There's a thread on the Inquisition forum that made it to 16 pages in 3 hours. "No Romance in DAI". They were talking about taking the romance out of the game itself and putting into DLC packs, one for each companion. Because people would purchase them, it was insinuated that it allow for more romantic content for the game.

So say DAI went this route, and had no romance. One of our companions is Cullen. You can become friends with him, or rivals, but the romance option is completely out. Until you buy a DLC pack. Suddenly he has flirty lines and all that good stuff that we come to expect from Bioware romances. Even more content on the sex scenes, if you're into that.

What do you guys think of that possibility idea?


I wouldn't be at all upset if they did, I would gladly pay extra to have more choices (although I would feel incredibly dirty), but I doubt it makes business sense.

6 more romances, larger ones at that, most of which probably won't be bought by anyone at all. That's an aweful lot of weight for the popular ones to pull. Most people don't buy DLC at all.

Oh, and I would buy one. Maaaaybe two (if it's like, Cullen and GW, but I doubt they would have two human males). And I'm one of probably few people who are positive to the idea.


If they were going to release a romance DLC, it would have to be an all-or-nothing deal offerering all of the romances in one go, and the file size would be approximately the size of the entire game.

The way modern games work, there isn't really a way to add snippets of code here and there or patch branches of dialogue into an already-existing conversation. The original game file is extracted, manipulated, and saved as a patch. Each file can be patched only once, with subsequent patches overwriting the original, and the patch file, the one that's distributed in the DLC, is even larger than the original game file. And it isn't just dialogue and script files that are affected. Modern games use trigger regions embedded in the areas to start conversations, cue events, and store camera and character placement data for cutscenes, so the DLC would need to include every area where a conversation could happen, as well. This would also be subject to the mutual exclusivity rule. That's one of the reasons that DLC companions don't have as much content as Official Campaign companions.

All of this is the reason I don't even bother reading the "No romances" thread. If the game will have romances, they will be part of the game from the outset. No dev in their right mind would release DLC that was bigger than the game.

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Perhaps they could DLC some 'extras' for certain romances? I mean, we also had the gifts-dlc for origins, so I dunno... marriage-dlc?

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Mahumia wrote...

Perhaps they could DLC some 'extras' for certain romances? I mean, we also had the gifts-dlc for origins, so I dunno... marriage-dlc?


I'm hoping that DAI will do something similar to the Citadel dlc in terms of the light heartedness/fun factor that would also feature the companions and LI heavily. I mean, obviously DAI is gonna have a lot of loss, heartbreak and dark scenes so to have a dlc that includes the Inquisitor 'n' co having a little downtime in between whatever the dlc's objective is would be nice.

That being said, it would be nice to get downtime and light hearted scenes in the main game itself.

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Oh gawd no, I couldn't think of anything worse than a marriage dlc LOL!

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Mahumia wrote...

Perhaps they will also implement non-companion romances, and can therefore 'expand' on the options? But indeed, as long as they are fully implemented.


My fear, Cullen is in game, romancable only by other companions! 

NOOOOOOOO!

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LolaLei wrote...

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A refresher never hurts. Jason Hill is a technical designer, right?


Yeah. Maybe he needs a reminder of what something looked like in DA:O that'll be returning again in DAI, like an area or something.


Or maybe he needs to be inspired by all the brown and doomity doom! I liked DAO's brown!

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Not that I want a marriage dlc, I was just wondering how they could manage to do something XD

Yeah, something citadel like would be great. And I want to *finally* be able to chill with the team in a tavern and have some fun! I felt left out that everyone went to drink and play games, and forgot to invite Hawke...

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You know, more and more, I'm beginning to think that they may go with the 2/2/2 romance model. It would change the direction of the playersexuality drama, at least. It wouldn't end it in the slightest because some folks would rant that the LI they prefer was of an inconvenient orientation, but at least it wouldn't be the same old whine that we've been hearing for the last two and a half years.

Setting the orientations of some of the LIs to "exclusively men or exclusively women" wouldn't bother me in the slightest. If I wanted to try a romance and my protagonist was the wrong gender, I'd just create a new protagonist with the opposite, but I'm still going to make popcorn for the reveal. "But Vivienne can't be a lesbian! It's totally out of character for her. You don't expect me to play a female PC, do you?" etc. Should be fun.

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LolaLei wrote...

Oh gawd no, I couldn't think of anything worse than a marriage dlc LOL!


Family DLC LMFAO

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berelinde wrote...

You know, more and more, I'm beginning to think that they may go with the 2/2/2 romance model. It would change the direction of the playersexuality drama, at least. It wouldn't end it in the slightest because some folks would rant that the LI they prefer was of an inconvenient orientation, but at least it wouldn't be the same old whine that we've been hearing for the last two and a half years.

Setting the orientations of some of the LIs to "exclusively men or exclusively women" wouldn't bother me in the slightest. If I wanted to try a romance and my protagonist was the wrong gender, I'd just create a new protagonist with the opposite, but I'm still going to make popcorn for the reveal. "But Vivienne can't be a lesbian! It's totally out of character for her. You don't expect me to play a female PC, do you?" etc. Should be fun.


I'm wonder if instead of the LI's being gay, straight or bisexual they'll implement it so that some LIs are race/class-sexual instead. For example, Varric can only be romanced by Dwarven Inquisitors because that's his preference, Cassandra won't romance mages full stop, or Cullen won't romance a blood mage, etc.

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berelinde wrote...

You know, more and more, I'm beginning to think that they may go with the 2/2/2 romance model. It would change the direction of the playersexuality drama, at least. It wouldn't end it in the slightest because some folks would rant that the LI they prefer was of an inconvenient orientation, but at least it wouldn't be the same old whine that we've been hearing for the last two and a half years.

Setting the orientations of some of the LIs to "exclusively men or exclusively women" wouldn't bother me in the slightest. If I wanted to try a romance and my protagonist was the wrong gender, I'd just create a new protagonist with the opposite, but I'm still going to make popcorn for the reveal. "But Vivienne can't be a lesbian! It's totally out of character for her. You don't expect me to play a female PC, do you?" etc. Should be fun.


"An Inconvenient Orientation" made me laugh... and it should be the name of the quest line where you find out the object of your desire bats for the other team. 
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VampOrchid wrote...

Mahumia wrote...

Perhaps they will also implement non-companion romances, and can therefore 'expand' on the options? But indeed, as long as they are fully implemented.


My fear, Cullen is in game, romancable only by other companions! 

NOOOOOOOO!


*flashes back to Joker*

[FROZEN IN UNENDING SCREAM]

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R2s Muse wrote...

LOL She goes by hyperbali (or just Bali). It's from asktheknightcaptain.tumblr.com, a collaboration she did with blamethetemplar, whose tumblr name has since changed.


Since I'm very new to Tumblr I discovered this blog only 2 days ago ! I really enjoyed, it was really funny and the artist is very skilled. *jealous*.

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Mellora wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LOL She goes by hyperbali (or just Bali). It's from asktheknightcaptain.tumblr.com, a collaboration she did with blamethetemplar, whose tumblr name has since changed.


Since I'm very new to Tumblr I discovered this blog only 2 days ago ! I really enjoyed, it was really funny and the artist is very skilled. *jealous*.

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Le Drooooool. Protective Cullen...is well...yummy<3

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Mellora wrote...



Since I'm very new to Tumblr I discovered this blog only 2 days ago ! I really enjoyed, it was really funny and the artist is very skilled. *jealous*.

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WOW this is.................. wow  wow and wow<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub: thank you for sharing this pic amazing work as usual

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LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

You know, more and more, I'm beginning to think that they may go with the 2/2/2 romance model. It would change the direction of the playersexuality drama, at least. It wouldn't end it in the slightest because some folks would rant that the LI they prefer was of an inconvenient orientation, but at least it wouldn't be the same old whine that we've been hearing for the last two and a half years.

Setting the orientations of some of the LIs to "exclusively men or exclusively women" wouldn't bother me in the slightest. If I wanted to try a romance and my protagonist was the wrong gender, I'd just create a new protagonist with the opposite, but I'm still going to make popcorn for the reveal. "But Vivienne can't be a lesbian! It's totally out of character for her. You don't expect me to play a female PC, do you?" etc. Should be fun.


I'm wonder if instead of the LI's being gay, straight or bisexual they'll implement it so that some LIs are race/class-sexual instead. For example, Varric can only be romanced by Dwarven Inquisitors because that's his preference, Cassandra won't romance mages full stop, or Cullen won't romance a blood mage, etc.

That would actually be quite interesting! And no matter what, I'll bring cookies for watching the rageposts :lol:

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Mellora wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LOL She goes by hyperbali (or just Bali). It's from asktheknightcaptain.tumblr.com, a collaboration she did with blamethetemplar, whose tumblr name has since changed.


Since I'm very new to Tumblr I discovered this blog only 2 days ago ! I really enjoyed, it was really funny and the artist is very skilled. *jealous*.

A little home-made Cumell.
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:wub: I want this... poster size

#64920
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Hmmm Maybe you can purchase it via Deviant art as a Print...if Mellora is offering prints that is

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Mahumia wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

berelinde wrote...

You know, more and more, I'm beginning to think that they may go with the 2/2/2 romance model. It would change the direction of the playersexuality drama, at least. It wouldn't end it in the slightest because some folks would rant that the LI they prefer was of an inconvenient orientation, but at least it wouldn't be the same old whine that we've been hearing for the last two and a half years.

Setting the orientations of some of the LIs to "exclusively men or exclusively women" wouldn't bother me in the slightest. If I wanted to try a romance and my protagonist was the wrong gender, I'd just create a new protagonist with the opposite, but I'm still going to make popcorn for the reveal. "But Vivienne can't be a lesbian! It's totally out of character for her. You don't expect me to play a female PC, do you?" etc. Should be fun.


I'm wonder if instead of the LI's being gay, straight or bisexual they'll implement it so that some LIs are race/class-sexual instead. For example, Varric can only be romanced by Dwarven Inquisitors because that's his preference, Cassandra won't romance mages full stop, or Cullen won't romance a blood mage, etc.

That would actually be quite interesting! And no matter what, I'll bring cookies for watching the rageposts :lol:

I could get behind this! Seriously!

One of the very few issues I had with DA2 was that I developed romance preferences very early on. I loved Anders's over-the-top sentimentality so much, I had a very difficult time completing any of the other romances. This prevented me from romancing Fenris for the longest time. I had other issues with the way Fenris's romance was implemented, but I would have been able to overcome them if I hadn't been so wild about Anders. Avoid flirting? Yeah, good luck with that. It was easy enough to avoid Anders and complete the female romances. All I had to do was make a male Hawke and roleplay that he was strictly heterosexual. But the moment I decided that he was interested in males, he wound up flirting with Anders again. Had they implemented class-based restrictions such as "Anders won't romance a blood mage or a templar," it would have made things a *lot* easier. I had a much easier time in DAO. I was as mad about Alistair as I was about Anders, but I had no trouble romancing Zev. All I had to do was create a male Warden. Problem solved.

So yeah, creating *some* kind of filter would add to the replay value for me, so I'd definitely support it.

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Yup, I would totally support class/race-sexual LI's. Even if it is not convenient for me XD

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meanieweenie wrote...

berelinde wrote...

You know, more and more, I'm beginning to think that they may go with the 2/2/2 romance model. It would change the direction of the playersexuality drama, at least. It wouldn't end it in the slightest because some folks would rant that the LI they prefer was of an inconvenient orientation, but at least it wouldn't be the same old whine that we've been hearing for the last two and a half years.

Setting the orientations of some of the LIs to "exclusively men or exclusively women" wouldn't bother me in the slightest. If I wanted to try a romance and my protagonist was the wrong gender, I'd just create a new protagonist with the opposite, but I'm still going to make popcorn for the reveal. "But Vivienne can't be a lesbian! It's totally out of character for her. You don't expect me to play a female PC, do you?" etc. Should be fun.


"An Inconvenient Orientation" made me laugh... and it should be the name of the quest line where you find out the object of your desire bats for the other team. 
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I think that would be a great way for the Devs to troll certain players. :lol:

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Mahumia wrote...

Yup, I would totally support class/race-sexual LI's. Even if it is not convenient for me XD


Me too. 100%. I actually think it makes the character more interesting when you have to go by their rules.

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VampOrchid wrote...

Hmmm Maybe you can purchase it via Deviant art as a Print...if Mellora is offering prints that is

All my artworks are available for download. I don't sell (in fact I have one old drawing available for print but I put it there by mistake :P). Anyway I'm afraid the resolutions I use aren't compatible with large size printing. =]