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[LolaLei]

Mellora wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

It kinda comes and goes in waves, usually more Cullen stuff pops up after a DAI announcement.

Out of interest, hypothetically if Cullen is romanceable will you be romancing him? Or are you gonna give it a miss because you ship him with Amell?

Of couuuurse my Inquisitor will romance him. Couldn't resist. I wait for some good written romance with Cullen to make me forget the magi origin. Never shipped him with Hawke, never wanted to, cause there's nothing suggesting feelings between the 2. And I do was attached to my warden... That's why I keep on drawing Cumell scenes.
My other wish is if I don't romance Cullen in a 2nd run, there will be some hint  there's still something between him and Amell. That's daydreaming but well... 

See, I never shipped Amell/Surana and Cullen because it was only a one sided thing. He liked her, but there was never anything to suggest that the feeling was mutal, especially as that time in the tower was literally the first time he'd ever spoken to her, as he points out. So I always find it kinda odd to think of my Amell and Cullen together... plus, she was totally head over heels for Alistair, so there was never gonna be anything between her and Cullen, even if she had returned to the tower, and he hadn't been tortured etc.

I don't ship Hawke and Cullen either, since he was nothing but professional with him/her. Sooooo, already I pretty much ship my Inquisitor with Cullen... unless he isn't romanceable, in which case, I'll stomp my feet and throw a fangirl rage, LOL.

[Potato Cat]

Assuming there isn't a male elf LI for my Elfquisitor, he will most likely be my first choice LI in what will become my canon. With a little help from ol' Keepy I will be importing either an Amell or Surana, (probably Amell) for my dwarf playthrough. It'll be fun to see how his dialogue might change, though I haven't decided if she'll romance him or not.

[Mahumia]

Hmm, speaking of the Anderfels... I wonder if we will ever find out what Anders real name is, as he is only called 'Anders' because he originates from the Anderfels, right?

Fanfic aside, I think there has never been more than tender love/starting to fall in love between Cullen and Amell. Hawke and Cullen never even started. Maaaybe a flirt, but nothing more than that... So yeah, he is totally availlable for the inquisitor

[Mellora]

LolaLei wrote...
See, I never shipped Amell/Surana and Cullen because it was only a one sided thing. He liked her, but there was never anything to suggest that the feeling was mutal, especially as that time in the tower was literally the first time he'd ever spoken to her, as he points out. So I always find it kinda odd to think of my Amell and Cullen together... plus, she was totally head over heels for Alistair, so there was never gonna be anything between her and Cullen, even if she had returned to the tower, and he hadn't been tortured etc.

I didn't have this feeling : the conversation between Cullen and the mage didn't appear to me as it was the very first time they talked to each other. As for the one-sided feeling, it is you who decide it is a one-sided one.
My Amell was charming with him and later during the tower crisis, when he blurts he had feelings for the mage, had very concerned dialogs for him.
Of course there is no actual romance between Amell and Cullen but there is nothing forbidding they can meet again years laters and realize there is more than a simple crush for each other. 
Ya know I have a run where my mage remains perfectly single because of him (yeah i'm crazy   )

Modifié par Mellora, 05 octobre 2013 - 11:47 .

[Chanda]

LolaLei wrote...

Sister Goldring wrote...

It probably can.....does stray spit count as uncanny valley, I think it should.

I saw something very uncanny valley today, look at this:




It's concept art for Elder Scrolls.

Whoah. That's concept art for Elder Scrolls? For.... Elder Scrolls Online, or for the rumored Elder Scrolls 6 that hasn't been officially confirmed, yet?

[Chanda]

Did you guys see this from the Twitter thread?

@davidgaider
Writing this violent argument is very cathartic.
от@GemmieJam к @davidgaider violent as in screaming at each other or violent as in stab wounds?

от@davidgaider к @GemmieJam Screaming. Chasing. Threatening of stab wounds. Thankfully Varric is short enough to dash under tables.

[LolaLei]

Mellora wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
See, I never shipped Amell/Surana and Cullen because it was only a one sided thing. He liked her, but there was never anything to suggest that the feeling was mutal, especially as that time in the tower was literally the first time he'd ever spoken to her, as he points out. So I always find it kinda odd to think of my Amell and Cullen together... plus, she was totally head over heels for Alistair, so there was never gonna be anything between her and Cullen, even if she had returned to the tower, and he hadn't been tortured etc.

I didn't have this feeling : the conversation between Cullen and the mage didn't appear to me as it was the very first time they talked to each other. As for the one-sided feeling, it is you who decide it is a one-sided one.
My Amell was charming with him and later during the tower crisis, when he blurts he had feelings for the mage, had very concerned dialogs for him.

Of course there is no actual romance between Amell and Cullen but there is nothing forbidding they can meet again years laters and realize there is more than a simple crush for each other. 
Ya know I have a run where my mage remains perfectly single because of him (yeah i'm crazy   )

Actually, he says "you always seem so confident... uh, or so I've heard", which indicates to me like he'd hardly spoken to her beyond maybe the odd "hello"/smile, or small talk. As for the Amell/Surana having the option to try to seduce Cullen, that's pretty much all it is and can really only be legitmately seen as one of two things:

1) Amell/Surana wants to get laid and finds him attractive enough to do so (something COULD have blossomed between them, IF he had agreed to go with her... but he doesn't, thus nothing ever develops beyond his crush on her. Perhaps your Amell/Surana found him attractive but it wouldn't have been some secret love affair, based on the fact that they'd never had any proper interaction.)

OR

2) Amell/Surana is being a **** tease and just wanted to scare the poor nervous templar for a laugh.

As for them meeting up years later, it won't happen. Once the game has ended the Warden (and your Hawke) no longer belong to you, as David Gaider keeps pointing out, LOL. Plus, the Warden isn't far off her calling, so even if she did wanna get with him it would be too late because she has to go into the deep roads with in the next few years to make her final stand.

Everything else is just headcanon, I'm afraid. 

Modifié par LolaLei, 05 octobre 2013 - 12:13 .

[LolaLei]

Chanda wrote...

Did you guys see this from the Twitter thread?

@davidgaider
Writing this violent argument is very cathartic.
от@GemmieJam к @davidgaider violent as in screaming at each other or violent as in stab wounds?

от@davidgaider к @GemmieJam Screaming. Chasing. Threatening of stab wounds. Thankfully Varric is short enough to dash under tables.

Ooooo bar brawl! :lol:

[Dirgegun]

Chanda wrote...

Did you guys see this from the Twitter thread?

@davidgaider
Writing this violent argument is very cathartic.
от@GemmieJam к @davidgaider violent as in screaming at each other or violent as in stab wounds?

от@davidgaider к @GemmieJam Screaming. Chasing. Threatening of stab wounds. Thankfully Varric is short enough to dash under tables.

Oh dear... 

[Mellora]

LolaLei wrote...

Mellora wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
See, I never shipped Amell/Surana and Cullen because it was only a one sided thing. He liked her, but there was never anything to suggest that the feeling was mutal, especially as that time in the tower was literally the first time he'd ever spoken to her, as he points out. So I always find it kinda odd to think of my Amell and Cullen together... plus, she was totally head over heels for Alistair, so there was never gonna be anything between her and Cullen, even if she had returned to the tower, and he hadn't been tortured etc.

I didn't have this feeling : the conversation between Cullen and the mage didn't appear to me as it was the very first time they talked to each other. As for the one-sided feeling, it is you who decide it is a one-sided one.
My Amell was charming with him and later during the tower crisis, when he blurts he had feelings for the mage, had very concerned dialogs for him.

Of course there is no actual romance between Amell and Cullen but there is nothing forbidding they can meet again years laters and realize there is more than a simple crush for each other. 
Ya know I have a run where my mage remains perfectly single because of him (yeah i'm crazy   )

Actually, he says "you always seem so confident... uh, or so I've heard", which indicates to me like he'd hardly spoken to her beyond maybe the odd "hello"/smile, or small talk. As for the Amell/Surana having the option to try to seduce Cullen, that's pretty much all it is and can really only be legitmately seen as one of two things:

1) Amell/Surana wants to get laid and finds him attractive enough to do so (something COULD have blossomed between them, IF he had agreed to go with her... but he doesn't, thus nothing ever develops beyond his crush on her. Perhaps your Amell/Surana found him attractive but it wouldn't have been some secret love affair, based on the fact that they'd never had any proper interaction.)

OR

2) Amell/Surana is being a **** tease and just wanted to scare the poor nervous templar for a laugh.

As for them meeting up years later, it won't happen. Once the game has ended the Warden (and your Hawke) no longer belong to you, as David Gaider keeps pointing out, LOL. Plus, the Warden isn't far off her calling, so even if she did wanna get with him it would be too late because she has to go into the deep roads with in the next few years to make her final stand.

Everything else is just headcanon, I'm afraid. 

Never said they would meet again and live 50 years together.
Never said Cumell romance was canon.
Just said there was some predisposition than can allow a possible romance between the 2. 
So far, nothing in the game states they can't or won't meet again. So imagining them together, even for a few time, is not completely illogical.
So, let's agree to disagree.

Modifié par Mellora, 05 octobre 2013 - 12:24 .

[LolaLei]

Mellora wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Mellora wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
See, I never shipped Amell/Surana and Cullen because it was only a one sided thing. He liked her, but there was never anything to suggest that the feeling was mutal, especially as that time in the tower was literally the first time he'd ever spoken to her, as he points out. So I always find it kinda odd to think of my Amell and Cullen together... plus, she was totally head over heels for Alistair, so there was never gonna be anything between her and Cullen, even if she had returned to the tower, and he hadn't been tortured etc.

I didn't have this feeling : the conversation between Cullen and the mage didn't appear to me as it was the very first time they talked to each other. As for the one-sided feeling, it is you who decide it is a one-sided one.
My Amell was charming with him and later during the tower crisis, when he blurts he had feelings for the mage, had very concerned dialogs for him.

Of course there is no actual romance between Amell and Cullen but there is nothing forbidding they can meet again years laters and realize there is more than a simple crush for each other. 
Ya know I have a run where my mage remains perfectly single because of him (yeah i'm crazy   )

Actually, he says "you always seem so confident... uh, or so I've heard", which indicates to me like he'd hardly spoken to her beyond maybe the odd "hello"/smile, or small talk. As for the Amell/Surana having the option to try to seduce Cullen, that's pretty much all it is and can really only be legitmately seen as one of two things:

1) Amell/Surana wants to get laid and finds him attractive enough to do so (something COULD have blossomed between them, IF he had agreed to go with her... but he doesn't, thus nothing ever develops beyond his crush on her. Perhaps your Amell/Surana found him attractive but it wouldn't have been some secret love affair, based on the fact that they'd never had any proper interaction.)

OR

2) Amell/Surana is being a **** tease and just wanted to scare the poor nervous templar for a laugh.

As for them meeting up years later, it won't happen. Once the game has ended the Warden (and your Hawke) no longer belong to you, as David Gaider keeps pointing out, LOL. Plus, the Warden isn't far off her calling, so even if she did wanna get with him it would be too late because she has to go into the deep roads with in the next few years to make her final stand.

Everything else is just headcanon, I'm afraid. 

Never said they would meet again and live 50 years together.
Never said Cumell romance was canon.
Just said there was some prediposition than can allow a possible romance between the 2. 
So far, nothing in the game states they can't or won't meet again. So imagining them together, even for a few time, is not completely illogical.
So, let's agree to disagree.

But it wouldn't happen, especially if Cullen really is a romance option in DAI. There's a higher chance of Cullen romancing some random npc than there is of him and Amell/Surana getting together (more so because DG is evil). Plus the Warden can be one of 3 races, each with 2 different types (noble/casteless, Dalish/city, Mage Elf/Mage Human/Noble Human) and 2 different genders so it would be pointless. Also, the Warden's story is done, so I can't see the writing team returning to her/his story just to go into more detail about what he/she is upto beyond "Warden goes to his/her calling" or "Warden has disappeared along with Hawke because..." (unless it's a cameo, but that's not gonna include Cullen and the Warden being together).

It's an impossibility, sadly.

[Mellora]

LolaLei wrote...
But it wouldn't happen, especially if Cullen really is a romance option in DAI. There's a higher chance of Cullen romancing some random npc than there is of him and Amell/Surana getting together (more so because DG is evil). Plus the Warden can be one of 3 races, each with 2 different types (noble/casteless, Dalish/city, Mage Elf/Mage Human/Noble Human) and 2 different genders so it would be pointless. Also, the Warden's story is done, so I can't see the writing team returning to her/his story just to go into more detail about what he/she is upto beyond "Warden goes to his/her calling" or "Warden has disappeared along with Hawke because..." (unless it's a cameo, but that's not gonna include Cullen and the Warden being together).

It's an impossibility, sadly.

Did I write I was daydreaming when I said, if Cullen is not romanceable/not romanced, I'd like to see some hint for a possible mage warden-Cullen relation in Inquisition ? Yes, I wrote daydreaming.
So of course I don't have much hope to see this, even if I don't ask much : only an allusion during a dialog would be just fine (just like he remembers her in DA2).
I also suggested that if Cullen is damn good to be romanced, I'll probably draw a loooot of CullenInquisitor yummy fanarts instead of the Cumell ones !
Just tried to explain why I find the Amell-Cullen pairing credible (and touching) so far.
And for what it's worth, I'm glad to see that of all my gallery which is not Dragon Age/Cullen exclusive at all, this artwork is the most popular one. http://mellorianj.de...ion-2-342513670
<3

Modifié par Mellora, 05 octobre 2013 - 12:59 .

[R2s Muse]

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

4 locations from world map confirmed.

Ah, nice map, Wiedz.  I hadn't looked up the marshes yet! Cool.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

Totally late on this, but am I the only one that thinks the tone of that article is outright b*tchy?

I mean wow guys...

"Is Bioware going to carry on preaching about social justice via its characters?"

"How about combat? Selling us old rope or turning a new leaf?"

To name a few...

That is just bad and unprofessional and eye-roll inducing. Actually the whole thing is written really poorly. Eurgh.

Sounds like the "journalist" is hoping people will think he's edgy and cool after the hate DA2 and ME3 got. Clearly he didn't get the note that people are actually looking forward to DAI after everything they've revealed.

Totally. I agree. The entire article is just insulting, to Bioware and honestly, the readers. My estimation of the "journalist" is very low. I think it was MMG who first pointed out one his articles, calling him a dudebro who almost made her LESS interested in the game  reading his articles. I heartily concur. Particularly the youtube comment sets my teeth on edge. I sure hope that's not something Cam actually said.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 05 octobre 2013 - 02:45 .

[R2s Muse]

Chanda wrote...

Did you guys see this from the Twitter thread?

@davidgaider
Writing this violent argument is very cathartic.
от@GemmieJam к @davidgaider violent as in screaming at each other or violent as in stab wounds?

от@davidgaider к @GemmieJam Screaming. Chasing. Threatening of stab wounds. Thankfully Varric is short enough to dash under tables.

Huh, my vote is Cassandra and Varric. I can't wait to see them together.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Everything else is just headcanon, I'm afraid. 

There's also nothing wrong with headcanon, tho. Lots of folks ship Cullen with Amell even if there's little evidence that they were actually involved. I personally ship Cullen with my Hawke, for which there's even less. I'm sure once DA:I comes around, we'll all be throwing that out the window for Inquisitor shipping if he's actually an important part of the game... even faster if he's romanceable.

[R2s Muse]

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...



"The most direct successor to the throne is Ferdinand Pentaghast, the younger brother of Markus. Ferdinand is a
legendary dragon hunter known more for his writing on the many uses of the beasts’ blood than politicking. He is also quite old and has expressed no public interest in assuming the throne.

Neither brother has any known offspring".


So... Maybe Ferdinand and Markus die in the game... And Cassandra is the new queen?

You know all of that is suggestive that Nevarran succession will come into play. World of Thedas made the same suggestions about the Orlesian throne, noting that Celene has no heirs.

But, I can't really see us dealing YET AGAIN with one of our companions dealing with the decision of whether or not to become a ruler because of ties to the throne they've heretofore ignored ... if you know what I mean. But I wonder if that issue plays a role in the chaos being sown across Thedas.

[meanieweenie]

R2s Muse wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

*snip*

"The most direct successor to the throne is Ferdinand Pentaghast, the younger brother of Markus. Ferdinand is a
legendary dragon hunter known more for his writing on the many uses of the beasts’ blood than politicking. He is also quite old and has expressed no public interest in assuming the throne.

Neither brother has any known offspring".


So... Maybe Ferdinand and Markus die in the game... And Cassandra is the new queen?

You know all of that is suggestive that Nevarran succession will come into play. World of Thedas made the same suggestions about the Orlesian throne, noting that Celene has no heirs.

But, I can't really see us dealing YET AGAIN with one of our companions dealing with the decision of whether or not to become a ruler because of ties to the throne they've heretofore ignored ... if you know what I mean. But I wonder if that issue plays a role in the chaos being sown across Thedas.

Maybe we'll get lucky and there won't be a decision to really make. Maybe she accepts it and has to fight for her seat for whatever reason. Agreed, reluctant leader again would be a wrong turn for the writers IMO. That being said, there are still numerous alleys they could go down that would leave Cass out of the line of succession and simply be fighting to keep what is there in tact... or not.

PS - Jane Curtin for the win!

Modifié par meanieweenie, 05 octobre 2013 - 03:26 .

[R2s Muse]

meanieweenie wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

*snip*

"The most direct successor to the throne is Ferdinand Pentaghast, the younger brother of Markus. Ferdinand is a
legendary dragon hunter known more for his writing on the many uses of the beasts’ blood than politicking. He is also quite old and has expressed no public interest in assuming the throne.

Neither brother has any known offspring".


So... Maybe Ferdinand and Markus die in the game... And Cassandra is the new queen?

You know all of that is suggestive that Nevarran succession will come into play. World of Thedas made the same suggestions about the Orlesian throne, noting that Celene has no heirs.

But, I can't really see us dealing YET AGAIN with one of our companions dealing with the decision of whether or not to become a ruler because of ties to the throne they've heretofore ignored ... if you know what I mean. But I wonder if that issue plays a role in the chaos being sown across Thedas.

Maybe we'll get lucky and there won't be a decision to really make. Maybe she accepts it and has to fight for her seat for whatever reason. Agreed, reluctant leader again would be a wrong turn for the writers IMO. That being said, there are still numerous alleys they could go down that would leave Cass out of the line of succession and simply be fighting to keep what is there in tact... or not.

PS - Jane Curtin for the win!

That's a good point. The writers are probably more averse to writing the same thing than we are. I just keep being struck by how everything's going to the Void in handbasket in 9:40 Dragon.

[meanieweenie]

R2s Muse wrote...

That's a good point. The writers are probably more averse to writing the same thing than we are. I just keep being struck by how everything's going to the Void in handbasket in 9:40 Dragon.

It really is a sh*tstorm, isn't it?

Next thing ya know there will be Ye Olde Starbucks kiosk in every chantry...

[R2s Muse]

meanieweenie wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

That's a good point. The writers are probably more averse to writing the same thing than we are. I just keep being struck by how everything's going to the Void in handbasket in 9:40 Dragon.

It really is a sh*tstorm, isn't it?

Next thing ya know there will be Ye Olde Starbucks kiosk in every chantry...

LOL What is that picture from???

[meanieweenie]

Shrek 2 where the giant gingerbread man goes on a rampage. LOL

[Mellora]

R2s Muse wrote...

Mine too. 

Just for the anecdote : someone reblogged my last Cumell art on Tumblr and tagged it #Alistair
 :crying:

[R2s Muse]

Mellora wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Mine too. 

Just for the anecdote : someone reblogged my last Cumell art on Tumblr and tagged it #Alistair
 :crying:

D'awww!  Well, FWIW, it TOTALLY looked like Cullen. (  I think  fans sometimes see their own interests in fanart, independent of the artist's intention. Like the following is intended to be Alistair, and I lovelovelove it, but it could also be Cullen's back, maybe, since my brain does that, um, sometimes...

Alistair, Knight Templar by RottenRagamuffin

Modifié par R2s Muse, 05 octobre 2013 - 04:18 .

[R2s Muse]

meanieweenie wrote...

Shrek 2 where the giant gingerbread man goes on a rampage. LOL

Aaaha!  OK, I was thinking Shrek..., but I thought that was a tree or something. Derp. Mongo the gingerbread man.