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I guess we could always end up with 4 warriors, 3 rogues, and 2 mages. I agree that we probably will not have 3 mages. Which means we will have at least 4 of one of the other two classes.

Ughghgh I go back and forth on this lol Who are our three rogues? Sera, Varric, and...? Cole?

With Dorian and Vivienne as mages.

What obvious potential companions am I leaving out? 


There's Warden McBeardface... He's S/S though, though I can see Cullen with both S/S and 2H and the Warden Dual Wielding like Duncan, (because warriors can do that now).

Cole seems likely since Sera and Varric are both archers. Can't help shake off the feeling he might be a bit DLC-ish though, even if Gaider loves his socks off.

My concerns stem from the fact that the non-human races are pretty token elf, token dwarf, token qunari... Too human, or is it just me?

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There's Warden McBeardface... He's S/S though, though I can see Cullen with both S/S and 2H and the Warden Dual Wielding like Duncan, (because warriors can do that now).

Cole seems likely since Sera and Varric are both archers. Can't help shake off the feeling he might be a bit DLC-ish though, even if Gaider loves his socks off.

My concerns stem from the fact that the non-human races are pretty token elf, token dwarf, token qunari... Too human, or is it just me?


I included the Grey Warden: GW, Cass, Cullen, IB (4 warriors)

I believe Dorian has a good chance of being an elf, so that would be two elves.

I don't know why Cole would be DLC; I think he has very close ties to the story line. He isn't just something one could "add on" and mildly enhance the story without truly affecting it, like Shale or Sebastian. (Sebastian was even more tacked on than Shale, as at least Shale added more to our understanding of the world and its past history.)

If anyone were DLC it would be someone like the Iron Bull (imo). 

I would like us to have a female dwarf companion, but I guess that role will have to be filled out by the inquisitor in some cases ^_^

I'm thinking FemDwarf x Grey Warden could be a pretty hot and adorable pair.

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If IB were to be a DLC I wouldn't think they would promote him this much from the beginning did they do that with Sebastian?

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If IB were to be a DLC I wouldn't think they would promote him this much from the beginning did they do that with Sebastian?


Maybe it's because he's cool looking? I still reckon he's a companion though, he's too physically distinct not to be.

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I think Cole could be DLC because of his incorporeal and invisible thing he has going on. Like Shale worked, (for me), because of her control rod. That was what allowed her to be known and activated to the Warden. Something similar could be done for Cole, in my opinion. But the Iron Bull could work just as well as he's a mercenary.

I would also like a female dwarf companion, (probably because I'm not a Varric fan to be honest), but I'd settle for Bianca or Sigrun showing up and doing something cool.

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Elfman wrote...

I think Cole could be DLC because of his incorporeal and invisible thing he has going on. Like Shale worked, (for me), because of her control rod. That was what allowed her to be known and activated to the Warden. Something similar could be done for Cole, in my opinion. But the Iron Bull could work just as well as he's a mercenary.

I would also like a female dwarf companion, (probably because I'm not a Varric fan to be honest), but I'd settle for Bianca or Sigrun showing up and doing something cool.


Shale's control rod was broken though, she came along because she didn't have anything better to do, LOL. Gawd, I love Shale!

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LolaLei wrote...

Elfman wrote...

I think Cole could be DLC because of his incorporeal and invisible thing he has going on. Like Shale worked, (for me), because of her control rod. That was what allowed her to be known and activated to the Warden. Something similar could be done for Cole, in my opinion. But the Iron Bull could work just as well as he's a mercenary.

I would also like a female dwarf companion, (probably because I'm not a Varric fan to be honest), but I'd settle for Bianca or Sigrun showing up and doing something cool.


Shale's control rod was broken though, she came along because she didn't have anything better to do, LOL. Gawd, I love Shale!


Haha, yes! My point was, the control rod was that little lure into the DLC content.

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You were one of those invited for the actual dinner? I'm so jealous~ =) Sounds like it was a lot of fun from what I read. Well, aside from the technical issues.

I only got there for the after party, myself.

 
I sat next to Evil Chris. Epiiiic! :kissing: 
If you are at Gamex on the Friday maybe we can meet up? 

So Lola what happened at that event that was so bad? :?

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As much as I hate to say this.... *IF* Cullen were to be some sort of a companion....
I think he would be the one who would be the DLC....but unfortunatly  we dont really know where he stands right now.. we just know Greg did his voice and thats it...
personally I dont really see Cole as a DLC he seems too important of a character

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Scr0ll wrote...

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

You were one of those invited for the actual dinner? I'm so jealous~ =) Sounds like it was a lot of fun from what I read. Well, aside from the technical issues.

I only got there for the after party, myself.

 
I sat next to Evil Chris. Epiiiic! :kissing: 
If you are at Gamex on the Friday maybe we can meet up? 

So Lola what happened at that event that was so bad? :?


It's not that it was bad exactly, I mean I was lucky to be invited at all... it just opened my eyes to a few things about the games industry in general, very off putting.

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Elfman wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Elfman wrote...

I think Cole could be DLC because of his incorporeal and invisible thing he has going on. Like Shale worked, (for me), because of her control rod. That was what allowed her to be known and activated to the Warden. Something similar could be done for Cole, in my opinion. But the Iron Bull could work just as well as he's a mercenary.

I would also like a female dwarf companion, (probably because I'm not a Varric fan to be honest), but I'd settle for Bianca or Sigrun showing up and doing something cool.


Shale's control rod was broken though, she came along because she didn't have anything better to do, LOL. Gawd, I love Shale!


Haha, yes! My point was, the control rod was that little lure into the DLC content.


Ah! I see! My bad, lol.

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As much as I hate to say this.... *IF* Cullen were to be some sort of a companion....
I think he would be the one who would be the DLC....but unfortunatly  we dont really know where he stands right now.. we just know Greg did his voice and thats it...
personally I dont really see Cole as a DLC he seems too important of a character


You'd think (or at least hope) that Cullen would be of some importance, given everything he's been through. Seriously, I've never seen a character with so much potential going to so much waste before in my life.

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ag99 wrote...

As much as I hate to say this.... *IF* Cullen were to be some sort of a companion....
I think he would be the one who would be the DLC....but unfortunatly  we dont really know where he stands right now.. we just know Greg did his voice and thats it...
personally I dont really see Cole as a DLC he seems too important of a character


I agree that Cole is unlikely to be DLC for that reason, and... I sadly agree that Cullen seems a likely DLC companion :(

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LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

As much as I hate to say this.... *IF* Cullen were to be some sort of a companion....
I think he would be the one who would be the DLC....but unfortunatly  we dont really know where he stands right now.. we just know Greg did his voice and thats it...
personally I dont really see Cole as a DLC he seems too important of a character


You'd think (or at least hope) that Cullen would be of some importance, given everything he's been through. Seriously, I've never seen a character with so much potential going to so much waste before in my life.


Oh I agree 100% that he has  A LOT of potential... but right now... given how things look and with classes and... ppl opinions about him in general... makes that potential go to waste....

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ag99 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

As much as I hate to say this.... *IF* Cullen were to be some sort of a companion....
I think he would be the one who would be the DLC....but unfortunatly  we dont really know where he stands right now.. we just know Greg did his voice and thats it...
personally I dont really see Cole as a DLC he seems too important of a character


You'd think (or at least hope) that Cullen would be of some importance, given everything he's been through. Seriously, I've never seen a character with so much potential going to so much waste before in my life.


Oh I agree 100% that he has  A LOT of potential... but right now... given how things look and with classes and... ppl opinions about him in general... makes that potential go to waste....


I don't think it would be peoples opinions of him that would hinder his chances, I just think that the writers themselves probably aren't huge fans of him. That's not to say that they dislike him, it's just that they're probably more into other characters, or are more excited about writing new ones... plus, the fact that they seem to think we've written his character/backstory etc for them (even though we haven't) probably irritates them because (like DG said) they're kinda limited with what they can do with him now.

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I don't think it would be peoples opinions of him that would hinder his chances, I just think that the writers themselves probably aren't huge fans of him. 


Ohh, ahh... ughhh I think this is a devastating point. :? DG and co. have too much integrating and passion for writing to leave out a character because fans don't like him. They themselves have to love a character in order to bring him to life and integrate him into the story. But I do pick up that they are baffled by Cullen's popularity. Being baffled about other people's fascination with one's own character is troubling (for that character). I mean if I ever got my act together and edited and published one of my stories, and suddenly people became obsessed with this minor character who appears in three chapters for five paragraphs, I wouldn't suddenly feel inspired to write a whole novel about that guy.

I know it's an unfair comparison (and that we know Cullen has potential) but if the writers don't feel he does, then that's that :(

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LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

As much as I hate to say this.... *IF* Cullen were to be some sort of a companion....
I think he would be the one who would be the DLC....but unfortunatly  we dont really know where he stands right now.. we just know Greg did his voice and thats it...
personally I dont really see Cole as a DLC he seems too important of a character


You'd think (or at least hope) that Cullen would be of some importance, given everything he's been through. Seriously, I've never seen a character with so much potential going to so much waste before in my life.


Oh I agree 100% that he has  A LOT of potential... but right now... given how things look and with classes and... ppl opinions about him in general... makes that potential go to waste....


I don't think it would be peoples opinions of him that would hinder his chances, I just think that the writers themselves probably aren't huge fans of him. That's not to say that they dislike him, it's just that they're probably more into other characters, or are more excited about writing new ones... plus, the fact that they seem to think we've written his character/backstory etc for them (even though we haven't) probably irritates them because (like DG said) they're kinda limited with what they can do with him now.


Sorry but how does a fanfic affect what the writters want to write about the said character? I mean I'm sure there have been plenty of Morrigan and Leliana fanfics out there but that doesnt have to stop the writter to write whatever he wants I mean they have created these characters.
If I were to write a fanfic about Cullen riding a unicorn  I dont necesarily expect for them to put that in the game just because thats what I fantasize about

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LolaLei wrote...

I don't think it would be peoples opinions of him that would hinder his chances, I just think that the writers themselves probably aren't huge fans of him. 


Ohh, ahh... ughhh I think this is a devastating point. :? DG and co. have too much integrating and passion for writing to leave out a character because fans don't like him. They themselves have to love a character in order to bring him to life and integrate him into the story. But I do pick up that they are baffled by Cullen's popularity. Being baffled about other people's fascination with one's own character is troubling (for that character). I mean if I ever got my act together and edited and published one of my stories, and suddenly people became obsessed with this minor character who appears in three chapters for five paragraphs, I wouldn't suddenly feel inspired to write a whole novel about that guy.

I know it's an unfair comparison (and that we know Cullen has potential) but if the writers don't feel he does, then that's that :(


There's no denying, it's amazing that someone with so little screen time in DA:O could even gather a decent sized fandom in the first place, of course it grew when he showed up in DA2 looking like a total babe, but even then he still wasn't really a big enough character for the writers to expect the attention he's ended up getting. I mean, he dominates the forums with the bickering going on between the lovers and the haters! :lol:

I can see why it's baffling to them, but I just wish they'd take the time to look into why people are so passionate about his character and why he's getting so much attention (both positive and negative). There really is so much potential waiting to be tapped into.

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ag99 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

As much as I hate to say this.... *IF* Cullen were to be some sort of a companion....
I think he would be the one who would be the DLC....but unfortunatly  we dont really know where he stands right now.. we just know Greg did his voice and thats it...
personally I dont really see Cole as a DLC he seems too important of a character


You'd think (or at least hope) that Cullen would be of some importance, given everything he's been through. Seriously, I've never seen a character with so much potential going to so much waste before in my life.


Oh I agree 100% that he has  A LOT of potential... but right now... given how things look and with classes and... ppl opinions about him in general... makes that potential go to waste....


I don't think it would be peoples opinions of him that would hinder his chances, I just think that the writers themselves probably aren't huge fans of him. That's not to say that they dislike him, it's just that they're probably more into other characters, or are more excited about writing new ones... plus, the fact that they seem to think we've written his character/backstory etc for them (even though we haven't) probably irritates them because (like DG said) they're kinda limited with what they can do with him now.


Sorry but how does a fanfic affect what the writters want to write about the said character? I mean I'm sure there have been plenty of Morrigan and Leliana fanfics out there but that doesnt have to stop the writter to write whatever he wants I mean they have created these characters.
If I were to write a fanfic about Cullen riding a unicorn  I dont necesarily expect for them to put that in the game just because thats what I fantasize about


That's the point, it shouldn't.

DG seems to think the Cullen fans have head canoned his personality/backstory/etc so hard that anything the writers do with his character which doesn't fall directly into what we've "imagined" will send us all over the edge into fan rage. :lol:

Obviously, for the majority of us it wouldn't. Especially considering we've pretty much looked at every possible thing that could happen to the poor boy ranging from good to bad. I guess they just don't like the fact that (in their opinion) we've left them no room to work with.

Modifié par LolaLei, 19 octobre 2013 - 05:40 .


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From what I've read, Gaider and Cori May both seem like they like Cullen. And the fact he's now got a last name, there's not many non-companions I can think of who's last name we actually know. Except for the dwarves, obviously.

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Wait Cullen has a last name??? How did I miss this? What is it?

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Wait Cullen has a last name??? How did I miss this? What is it?


We don't know. Gaider tweeted that he has one now and that he likes it a while ago. I think R2s Muse's blog has the tweet on it.

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It's not that it was bad exactly, I mean I was lucky to be invited at all... it just opened my eyes to a few things about the games industry in general, very off putting.

As someone in the games industry I am now even more curious about what is off putting. :huh:

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Elfman wrote...

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Wait Cullen has a last name??? How did I miss this? What is it?


We don't know. Gaider tweeted that he has one now and that he likes it a while ago. I think R2Muse's blog has the tweet on it.


Oh yea i read that tweet, I thought you ment that they actually revield his name

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