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I was just wondering around on deviantart  and I found this comic obsession its about Cullen have you guys seen it?

LOL that's by Galagraphia, the thread OP, BTW. What's old becomes new again! :D

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LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

this is kind of interesting it when DG said he was finishing writing a follower

Allan Schumacher wrote...

It's important to also note that we knew we were pushing the date before you guys did, and with that comes opportunities to look at other things and have more iteration.

So that could be a completely new companion, then? Hm... intriguing!

huh that IS intriguing. I wonder if it's a new companion, or could it even be a rewrite of a previously more limited companion? I'm so curious to ask them, once DAI is released, what they changed when the date changed! I wonder if they would tell us. 

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@r2 oh I didn't even realized it was from the OP that's pretty cool I liked the comic a lot, and yea it seems that it might be a new companion maybe a DLC character? since DG got done with it so fast idk... im sure if ppl will ask them at the conventions that they may tell us what they have change with the 1 year extension, but some changes kinda speak from them self we have seen some of them

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

this is kind of interesting it when DG said he was finishing writing a follower

Allan Schumacher wrote...

It's important to also note that we knew we were pushing the date before you guys did, and with that comes opportunities to look at other things and have more iteration.

So that could be a completely new companion, then? Hm... intriguing!

huh that IS intriguing. I wonder if it's a new companion, or could it even be a rewrite of a previously more limited companion? I'm so curious to ask them, once DAI is released, what they changed when the date changed! I wonder if they would tell us. 


They'd probably tell us once the game shipped. Hm, so we've either got 10 companions now, or more content for the 9 already written.

I'm also curious about this tweet that DG made on the 25th:

David Gaider: "13-hour work day, including a 4-hour meeting, resulting in (potentially) a lot more work for me. I sense much drinking tomorrow."

I wonder what it is that they're hoping to add to the game that'll create even more work for him?

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Well more work doesn't always mean completely new content. Could be rewrites or retooling or expanding.

it is weird that there's so much writing still going on. But maybe it's also a sign of the rush at the end for the writers. They have to be done before everyone else. 

Modifié par R2s Muse, 29 octobre 2013 - 01:52 .


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R2s Muse wrote...

Well more work doesn't always mean completely new content. Could be rewrites or retooling or expanding.

it is weird that there's so much writing still going on. But maybe it's also a sign of the rush at the end for the writers. They have to be done before everyone else. 


It does seem strange, doesn't it. I don't know if this is something they always do but have been more open/vocal about it this time around, or if all this extra writing is due to the extra year?

I mean, the game originally was supposed to be out by now, so surely they had the bulk of it done already? Gah, I dunno.

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I was just having a listen to some of Trevor Morris' pieces (the guy that's rumoured to be doing the DAI soundtrack), he's very good at capturing atmosphere in his music. If he really is working on DAI then I don't think we'll be disappointed!

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LolaLei wrote...

I was just having a listen to some of Trevor Morris' pieces (the guy that's rumoured to be doing the DAI soundtrack), he's very good at capturing atmosphere in his music. If he really is working on DAI then I don't think we'll be disappointed!


It says he is on wikipedia, but I guess that doesn't mean anything haha. I remember when it said Troy Baker was voicing the Inquisitor on wiki... That turned out to be false =P

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TristanHawke wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I was just having a listen to some of Trevor Morris' pieces (the guy that's rumoured to be doing the DAI soundtrack), he's very good at capturing atmosphere in his music. If he really is working on DAI then I don't think we'll be disappointed!


It says he is on wikipedia, but I guess that doesn't mean anything haha. I remember when it said Troy Baker was voicing the Inquisitor on wiki... That turned out to be false =P


Yeah, the problem with Wiki is that anyone can edit it, so the information on there can't entirely be trusted when it comes to stuff like that. Regardless, the guy that done the DAI: Fires Above trailer music seems to think that it's Trevor Morris, and apparently they're friends, so I can only presume that it's probably true.

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LolaLei wrote...

TristanHawke wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I was just having a listen to some of Trevor Morris' pieces (the guy that's rumoured to be doing the DAI soundtrack), he's very good at capturing atmosphere in his music. If he really is working on DAI then I don't think we'll be disappointed!


It says he is on wikipedia, but I guess that doesn't mean anything haha. I remember when it said Troy Baker was voicing the Inquisitor on wiki... That turned out to be false =P


Yeah, the problem with Wiki is that anyone can edit it, so the information on there can't entirely be trusted when it comes to stuff like that. Regardless, the guy that done the DAI: Fires Above trailer music seems to think that it's Trevor Morris, and apparently they're friends, so I can only presume that it's probably true.


He is a fairly cool pick for the soundtrack, but I don't see him composing the entirety of it. I'm thinking they are going to have more than one composer, similar to how they did ME3. I have no problem with that. If the work Trevor does for DA:I is anything like his work on The Tudors it is going to be amaaaaaazing. I'd even like to see his take on some of the trademark Dragon Age tracks.

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I just hope that it'll keep at least a little of the previous games signature sound. Even if it's just that lady singing in Elven tongue.

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LolaLei wrote...

I just hope that it'll keep at least a little of the previous games signature sound. Even if it's just that lady singing in Elven tongue.


You can hear some of the soundtrack in the Dev Diary, it sounds pretty cool.

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Ladies, gentlemen. I have big news:

Łukasz Krawczyk ‏@IlidanDA

@Lion_Martinez Hi! About DAI on Gamex: Will it be something new or the same gameplay from PAX?

Lion Martinez ‏@Lion_Martinez

@IlidanDA Hi, it will be the PAX video in HD.

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Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Ladies, gentlemen. I have big news:

Łukasz Krawczyk ‏@IlidanDA

@Lion_Martinez Hi! About DAI on Gamex: Will it be something new or the same gameplay from PAX?

Lion Martinez ‏@Lion_Martinez

@IlidanDA Hi, it will be the PAX video in HD.


Question is, will they release the full HD thing to the public to see? Or is it just for the people at the Gamex event?

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Hmm:

https://twitter.com/...244897428443136

Keep your fingers crossed.

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Meh ;(

Łukasz Krawczyk ‏@IlidanDA

@Lion_Martinez About Video HD: Will it be available on YouTube?

Lion Martinez ‏@Lion_Martinez

@IlidanDA Nope, sorry mate. Only for expos

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I don't know why they're doing that :( And yet they're evidently okay with people filming it and sharing it. 

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Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

Meh ;(

Łukasz Krawczyk ‏@IlidanDA

@Lion_Martinez About Video HD: Will it be available on YouTube?

Lion Martinez ‏@Lion_Martinez

@IlidanDA Nope, sorry mate. Only for expos

Lame :( Ah well, perhaps someone will bring along a decent camera and put it up on youtube for us...

And totally random: why does bioware have so little DA related stuff in the Bioware store compared to ME? I want some cool DA-themed hoody to annoy the N7-hoody crowd in my friends group... The only nice thing I would want is the grey warden t-shirt... Heck, just give me a hoody with the grey warden motto, templar symbol, or whatever shiny DA-related in any non-charcoal colour (please: just black!) and I'd know something to ask for x-mas.  Ok, /endrant :P

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motomotogirl wrote...

I don't know why they're doing that :( And yet they're evidently okay with people filming it and sharing it. 

Yeah, you'd think they'd prefer the masses see it in better quality. :shrug: Me no understand marketing. :blink:

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Mahumia wrote...
And totally random: why does bioware have so little DA related stuff in the Bioware store compared to ME? I want some cool DA-themed hoody to annoy the N7-hoody crowd in my friends group... The only nice thing I would want is the grey warden t-shirt... Heck, just give me a hoody with the grey warden motto, templar symbol, or whatever shiny DA-related in any non-charcoal colour (please: just black!) and I'd know something to ask for x-mas.  Ok, /endrant :P


Argh, I know what you mean! My friend loves ME and he bought a bunch of N7 stuff a month or two ago and I was like, that's so cool, I want a Qunari top or bag or whatever! And all they have are these little 'amulets' and coasters. Bioware, I have money to throw at you! I want to make it rain! Give us some cool Dragon Age stuff! But not even redbubble have much Dragon Age stuff I would wear in public.

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I already asked this question on Inquisition thread, but I think I'll have proper answer here.

Why do you guys like Cullen that much?

I mean, sure he ain't bad character nor he's boring, though what's the appeal for this seemingly random NPC to be so popular?
I was never much on Dragon Age forums, so this is new to me.

I'm just curious.

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Mesina2 wrote...

I already asked this question on Inquisition thread, but I think I'll have proper answer here.

Why do you guys like Cullen that much?

I mean, sure he ain't bad character nor he's boring, though what's the appeal for this seemingly random NPC to be so popular?
I was never much on Dragon Age forums, so this is new to me.

I'm just curious.


I sort of just tried to answer you on that thread actually. Hope I've done him some justice. I'm sure I've missed things.

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Moving from that thread to here, since little too off topic there.

Elfman wrote...

Because the guy has probably had more character development than another other NPC? In Origins, he was very sympathetic to the plight of the mages, but while also balancing his loyalty to the Chantry and his duty to the Templar Order. The Uldred fiasco radically changed his perception of them, having seen his friends tortured and killed by demons and psychologically tormented himself and he became a bit of a Chantry zealot. But when he was moved the Kirkwall and saw the much harsher treatment of mages there, he slowly began to once again question his views and wonder is it fair, is it right to treat mages like this? Then he finally realises Meredith has gone too far and stands up to her.

He's been forced from one extreme to the other and landed in very murky, ambiguous territory. His character could go either way, I feel. And throw in an (at least) ten year strong lyrium addiction, (which I vaguely remember the writers expressing the view that they really haven't done it much justice in the past), and you have some very interesting implications for DA:I.


Well, I guess I can see some appeal now.

Still not entirely seeing it, but I guess he has a pretty good potential in DA:I as a major character in it.
But as a companion? Maybe there's potential too?
Though doubtful, as Casandra is confirmed companion. And having two character that served Chantry in nearly same roles would be redundant.


But what do I know?
Only recently I started to get more deep into Dragon Age, as I am with Mass Effect.

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What I personally find really appealing is the character growth shown. Even though we get only to see tiny bits of it, as he is a NPC (not a companion) in DA:O and DA:2. Some consider him inconsistent because of that, but if you take a step back and take a look at him, you can read between the lines to understand the things that are not shown in the games.

Apart from what has already been mentioned by Elfman (which I agree with), he starts of as a shy, insecure young man during the mage origin. Apparently joined the templars as a little boys dream of wanting to be a knight (info from cutted content), and gets quickly thrown into the deep. In one way by developing feelings for a mage within his circle, which is against chantry law (struggling between feelings and vows) and another by the torment suffered during the Circle events. (Still think that one of the strongest peaks there is the 'tempting me with the one thing I always wanted but could never have': he shows that he is able to withstand the demons temptations, even if it pains him... or that is how I see it).
Taking into account that there is no real help to recover from trauma, he has to go through it all by himself. Yet he does not go crazy.

At the start of DA:2 he seems to have extreme views, probably in a way to protect himself and give the happenings of DA:O a place. However, he is slowly able to see that such is not the correct way and has to make hard decisions again: follow his hearth or orders?
The Ferelden circle was very loose, and got overrun by blood magic. Kirkwall has quite his share of blood mages and a thin veil, so wanting to keep a firm grip on the mages in order to prevent a similar event as in Ferelden is in that way understandable (and why he first agrees with Meredith). Not only for the safety of Kirkwall, but also for the mages themselves.
But the latter... Meredith ignores that part of the templars duty, which makes him getting doubt (he expresses this by saying something along the lines that Meredith may no longer serve the chantries orders). However, insubordination will most likely cost him his life too (Meredith seems to kill anyone who disagrees with her). Besides, he stays doubtful until Meredith reaches the final straw by wanting to kill Hawke. Than he stands up for what is right in his eyes.

So, sorry for the not quite objective point of view, but I hope you get what I mean :) For a non-companion he shows a lot of growth, which makes him very interesting to me. Origins Cullen would not stand up against Meredith

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He's a really well-written and sympathetic (but nuanced) character. He's just evidence of great writing. He was a favorite as soon as I played DA2 (played it first).