LOL! Seb has his pros and cons, no lie. FWIW, I see it as someone speaking rashly words he'll later regret, but Seb's blinders and unchecked priviledge can be a turnoff for some.Xilizhra wrote...
Wait, sorry, saying what I'd said before would be hypocritical.*discreetly points to my Hawke* ahem.
Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 octobre 2013 - 04:14 .
Xilizhra wrote...
It's not even that, it's that Carver skeeves me the hell out. He fundamentally does not seem to be a good person, especially when it comes to magic.It would do, you romanced her so it feels alien to you, especially when you're emotionally invested. It's like when I think about female Amell and Cullen getting together, makes me cringe. My Amell belongs to Alistair, dammit!
"I will destroy this whole city, in so doing demonstrating the most amazing lack of self-awareness in the entire franchise! Blargh!"*discreetly points to my Hawke* ahem.
Modifié par LolaLei, 30 octobre 2013 - 04:10 .
Actually participating in genocide... I just... no, just no. Someone who has the potential to do that, I can't get behind, not without them having a redemption arc.To me, Carver is just the typical jealous sibling stamping his feet, lol. He's very childish, although he definitely grows up a lot once he joins the Warden's (not quite so much if he's in the Templar Order). I wouldn't say he was a bad person, just very young and a little self entitled.
I'm not a Carver expert... but isn't him standing up to Meredith at the end a bit of a redemption arc...? It's just a beginning, but it's something.Xilizhra wrote...
Actually participating in genocide... I just... no, just no. Someone who has the potential to do that, I can't get behind, not without them having a redemption arc.To me, Carver is just the typical jealous sibling stamping his feet, lol. He's very childish, although he definitely grows up a lot once he joins the Warden's (not quite so much if he's in the Templar Order). I wouldn't say he was a bad person, just very young and a little self entitled.
Xilizhra wrote...
Actually participating in genocide... I just... no, just no. Someone who has the potential to do that, I can't get behind, not without them having a redemption arc.To me, Carver is just the typical jealous sibling stamping his feet, lol. He's very childish, although he definitely grows up a lot once he joins the Warden's (not quite so much if he's in the Templar Order). I wouldn't say he was a bad person, just very young and a little self entitled.
More of a hint than an arc.I'm not a Carver expert... but isn't him standing up to Meredith at the end a bit of a redemption arc...? It's just a beginning, but it's something.
I actually think that shows less morality than standing up for strangers.Only if you make him a Templar. He only joined to ****** mage Hawke off anyway, which goes to show how childish he is at that point. Gotta hand it to him though, he'll side with Hawke regardless so at least he's got some morals when it comes to sticking up for his family.
Well, yes, pulling off among the most profound acts of sheer betrayal possible out of sheer spite pissed me off a tad. And he does hit on Isabela as well.Not to be rude, but I can't help but think part of the reason you dislike him so much is because he had a crush on Merrill and can (optionally) join the Templars. Had he gone straight to the Wardens and fancied Isabela instead, would you have still disliked him so much?
Xilizhra wrote...
More of a hint than an arc.I'm not a Carver expert... but isn't him standing up to Meredith at the end a bit of a redemption arc...? It's just a beginning, but it's something.
I actually think that shows less morality than standing up for strangers.Only if you make him a Templar. He only joined to ****** mage Hawke off anyway, which goes to show how childish he is at that point. Gotta hand it to him though, he'll side with Hawke regardless so at least he's got some morals when it comes to sticking up for his family.
Well, yes, pulling off among the most profound acts of sheer betrayal possible out of sheer spite pissed me off a tad. And he does hit on Isabela as well.Not to be rude, but I can't help but think part of the reason you dislike him so much is because he had a crush on Merrill and can (optionally) join the Templars. Had he gone straight to the Wardens and fancied Isabela instead, would you have still disliked him so much?
Bethany/Isabela, I would be fine shipping. Sebastian... rubs me all wrong possible ways as a romantic partner, especially for Bethany. But that wasn't what bugged me about Carver; it's nigh-solely the templar thing.He's a young single guy, they hit on everyone. I found it sweet that he had genuine feelings for Merrill, beyond "I wanna bang you" which probably would've been the case if he'd gone after Isabela. Besides, Isabela flirts with everyone, even Varric flirts back and he doesn't even find humans attractive. Bethany shows some interest in Isabela too at first, although it seemed more like curiosity than anything else.
LolaLei wrote...
Aha! Here's the original post I was looking for on Tumblr:
http://dgaider.tumbl...ned-by-now-that
As for romances we considered? Carver/Merrill, for one, and Bethany/Sebastian for the other. I think there was a hint of that in “Mark of the Assassin”, but we never ended up taking it further. Too bad, really. I like the idea of Princess Bethany (and so would she). I don’t remember if we’d discussed any other romances in DA2 or DAO…
maybe? If we did, it was probably as individual characters that could have had romance plots (which were later dropped) and not pairings inside the party.
Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 octobre 2013 - 04:40 .
Xilizhra wrote...
If you happened to actually meet Cullen in battle in The Last Straw, instead of just having him talk before Meredith attacks everyone, would you kill him?
Xilizhra wrote...
Bethany/Isabela, I would be fine shipping. Sebastian... rubs me all wrong possible ways as a romantic partner, especially for Bethany. But that wasn't what bugged me about Carver; it's nigh-solely the templar thing.He's a young single guy, they hit on everyone. I found it sweet that he had genuine feelings for Merrill, beyond "I wanna bang you" which probably would've been the case if he'd gone after Isabela. Besides, Isabela flirts with everyone, even Varric flirts back and he doesn't even find humans attractive. Bethany shows some interest in Isabela too at first, although it seemed more like curiosity than anything else.
ag99 wrote...
hmm did you guys see this thread.. personally I hope the game doesn't get pushed back if they gonna cut back on content, but to me that doesn't really make sense if ypu push back a game it would be to add some stuff not remove ... but oh well
http://social.biowar.../index/17504094
R2s Muse wrote...
ag99 wrote...
hmm did you guys see this thread.. personally I hope the game doesn't get pushed back if they gonna cut back on content, but to me that doesn't really make sense if ypu push back a game it would be to add some stuff not remove ... but oh well
http://social.biowar.../index/17504094
Huh, seems pretty slim evidence to base a whole article on. All the EA dude said was, "We have Sims next year, we would most likely, possibly have Dragon Age next year." ?? Sounds more like Fall 2014 could just slip back to first quarter 2015. :shrug:
Modifié par ag99, 30 octobre 2013 - 04:34 .
I actually kinda like the Merrill/Isabela friendship and could see that progressing. I love how Bela looks after her.LolaLei wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Bethany/Isabela, I would be fine shipping. Sebastian... rubs me all wrong possible ways as a romantic partner, especially for Bethany. But that wasn't what bugged me about Carver; it's nigh-solely the templar thing.He's a young single guy, they hit on everyone. I found it sweet that he had genuine feelings for Merrill, beyond "I wanna bang you" which probably would've been the case if he'd gone after Isabela. Besides, Isabela flirts with everyone, even Varric flirts back and he doesn't even find humans attractive. Bethany shows some interest in Isabela too at first, although it seemed more like curiosity than anything else.
Seb was a bit of a waste, didn't really seem worth having him as an LI at all. I mean, I'm fine with the "no sex" thing, but surely he's allowed to show affection, if only with words or a kiss on the hand or something. He didn't get much in the way of general content really either, which is such a shame because he had a lot of potential.
I quite like the idea of Bethany/Isabela, I could totally see that working.
R2s Muse wrote...
LolaLei wrote...
Aha! Here's the original post I was looking for on Tumblr:
http://dgaider.tumbl...ned-by-now-thatAs for romances we considered? Carver/Merrill, for one, and Bethany/Sebastian for the other. I think there was a hint of that in “Mark of the Assassin”, but we never ended up taking it further. Too bad, really. I like the idea of Princess Bethany (and so would she). I don’t remember if we’d discussed any other romances in DA2 or DAO…
maybe? If we did, it was probably as individual characters that could have had romance plots (which were later dropped) and not pairings inside the party.
Argh. Princess Bethany. *shakes fist*
Stealing a Lola question: What if Cullen was one of those "individual characters"? How you have felt about Cullen's romance shot being a minor plotline in DA2? (and I know Lola's answer is a categorical NO! LOL)
Modifié par LolaLei, 30 octobre 2013 - 04:36 .
:sick:
R2s Muse wrote...
ag99 wrote...
hmm did you guys see this thread.. personally I hope the game doesn't get pushed back if they gonna cut back on content, but to me that doesn't really make sense if ypu push back a game it would be to add some stuff not remove ... but oh well
http://social.biowar.../index/17504094
Huh, seems pretty slim evidence to base a whole article on. All the EA dude said was, "We have Sims next year, we would most likely, possibly have Dragon Age next year." ?? Sounds more like Fall 2014 could just slip back to first quarter 2015. :shrug:
Modifié par LolaLei, 30 octobre 2013 - 04:35 .
R2s Muse wrote...
Stealing a Lola question: What if Cullen was one of those "individual characters"? How you have felt about Cullen's romance shot being a minor plotline in DA2? (and I know Lola's answer is a categorical NO! LOL)
David Gaider wrote...
Trista Hawke wrote...
So, I'm not here to gripe if the game's release *does* get pushed back. If it's pushed back, it's pushed back. Thus is life. However, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, can we reap the benefits of it being pushed back + the profits of EA's 2014 big hit releases? Can they add more to Dragon Age Inquisition if the fans are made to wait until 2015?
If the release date does slip, and that's IF, it will undoubtedly because we feel we need more time to make the game we currently have on our hands. At that point we will be cutting content that's not finished yet, not adding new content in. You will get less features, possibly some that were already mentioned would be removed, not new features thrown in as candy to "reward" you for the extra wait.
Couldn't bring myself to actually read the posts, so I didn't see that! OK...ag99 wrote...
R2s Muse wrote...
ag99 wrote...
hmm did you guys see this thread.. personally I hope the game doesn't get pushed back if they gonna cut back on content, but to me that doesn't really make sense if ypu push back a game it would be to add some stuff not remove ... but oh well
http://social.biowar.../index/17504094
Huh, seems pretty slim evidence to base a whole article on. All the EA dude said was, "We have Sims next year, we would most likely, possibly have Dragon Age next year." ?? Sounds more like Fall 2014 could just slip back to first quarter 2015. :shrug:
I was talking more of what DG said in that thread that if the game does get pushed back another year they will likely cut content or something like that
David Gaider wrote...
Trista Hawke wrote...
So, I'm not here to gripe if the game's release *does* get pushed back. If it's pushed back, it's pushed back. Thus is life. However, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, can we reap the benefits of it being pushed back + the profits of EA's 2014 big hit releases? Can they add more to Dragon Age Inquisition if the fans are made to wait until 2015?
If the release date does slip, and that's IF, it will undoubtedly because we feel we need more time to make the game we currently have on our hands. At that point we will be cutting content that's not finished yet, not adding new content in. You will get less features, possibly some that were already mentioned would be removed, not new features thrown in as candy to "reward" you for the extra wait.
Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 octobre 2013 - 04:38 .
R2s Muse wrote...
So, I think this makes perfect sense to me. If they're not done in Fall 2014 with their To Do list for the game, they're not going to add more things to that list that need to get done. They'll finish what they have planned and remove anything not quite done in order to be 'done done.'
Maybe I'm missing some of the concern...?
I think he just means cut things that aren't done, tho.ag99 wrote...
R2s Muse wrote...
So, I think this makes perfect sense to me. If they're not done in Fall 2014 with their To Do list for the game, they're not going to add more things to that list that need to get done. They'll finish what they have planned and remove anything not quite done in order to be 'done done.'
Maybe I'm missing some of the concern...?
yes it does make sense if they release it when they said they will in 2014 fall but the way I understood was IF the game gets pushed back to lets say fall 2015 that they will cut content instead of adding some
Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 octobre 2013 - 05:01 .
ag99 wrote...
R2s Muse wrote...
So, I think this makes perfect sense to me. If they're not done in Fall 2014 with their To Do list for the game, they're not going to add more things to that list that need to get done. They'll finish what they have planned and remove anything not quite done in order to be 'done done.'
Maybe I'm missing some of the concern...?
yes it does make sense if they release it when they said they will in 2014 fall but the way I understood was IF the game gets pushed back to lets say fall 2015 that they will cut content instead of adding some
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