Oh, you'll fit right in!TreeHuggerHannah wrote...
I do hope we get to see more of him in the next game. (Literally, ideally...)
TreeHuggerHannah wrote...
Hi guys! ...
You mean this one? I believe it's Rainshock's armor. I haven't searched for it on the DA nexus, tho. The screenshot is by ladyshamen. (and Cullen's from Karma's, of course)motomotogirl wrote...
Okay guys. So I'm working on a paper that I'll be presenting at a conference this Spring. It's on women and gaming, and how women redirect the male gaze via modding. Example: Creating sexy male armor for male characters, when the base game only has sexy female armor.
Anyone have a picture and a link to that mod that people sometimes post here, of Cullen (or is it Alistair) in the sexy DA:O armor?
Also any other mods you know of, in any other game, that were created by women, and created to please the female gaze/gamer.
Or just anything you can think of, like fanfiction, fanart, etc. Any fan artists and writers here who'd like to give me permission to display (anonymously, if they prefer) their work? NOT publish without their permission. Just briefly display during a presentation.
EDIT: If you also just have a statement you'd like to offer as a female gamer (or even better, as a female modder / fanfic writer / fan artist), that would also be awesome. And if I use it I'll maybe ask for your basic bio info, like age, etc
EDIT: Another example would be the wedding mods, like the Alistair wedding mod, or the Brynjolf wedding mod.
Modifié par R2s Muse, 11 novembre 2013 - 01:43 .
Welcome to the Cullen thread! There are others about that have played the games in that order as well, so you're in good company. I did them in order, so when I became smitten with Cullen in DA2, I realized that I'd kind of missed him in DA:O.TreeHuggerHannah wrote...
Hi guys! This is my first forum post, although I've been reading for awhile.
I'm relatively new to the Dragon Age series, still in my first playthrough. I've finished DA2 and am about halfway through DA:O. (Yes, I did them in reverse order. Not a very good decision on my part.) I found Cullen a very intriguing character with layers yet to be explored, and I was happy to see there's a discussion thread about him.
I do hope we get to see more of him in the next game. (Literally, ideally...
LOL THEME SONG!! Love it! "every good hero should have some"KiddDaBeauty wrote...
Oh, you'll fit right in!TreeHuggerHannah wrote...
I do hope we get to see more of him in the next game. (Literally, ideally...
Welcome aboard! We're all one big family here.
Speaking of which, one of us should sit down and write some piece of lyrics for the Cullen thread. Something like
We are family
I have the Cullenites with me
We are family
Get up everybody and post
but better and a full song ^^
Modifié par meanieweenie, 11 novembre 2013 - 02:27 .
Modifié par R2s Muse, 11 novembre 2013 - 03:05 .
Yeah, I'm finding the reverse order alright, although it's not something I'd recommend to anyone else. I feel like I missed some nuance in DA2, but it's also fun to retroactively find out things that relate to Hawke's journey, so it more or less evens out.I did it like that as well and if the games really stick with you, then you can always play them in their 'right' order.
Modifié par TreeHuggerHannah, 11 novembre 2013 - 07:21 .
LOL No worries, and here is the place to do it!TreeHuggerHannah wrote...
I didn't plan to rant that much, but oh well!
I have to agree with you here. I think that by the end of DA2, he could see what Gregoire was trying to steer him away from after the Broken Circle. That was rather Cullen's way of thinking after that, and now he could see it in Meredith's "All mage are blood mage/abominations and should be put down!"R2s Muse wrote...
LOL No worries, and here is the place to do it!TreeHuggerHannah wrote...
I didn't plan to rant that much, but oh well!
Agree that his continuing evolution will be interesting to see. I also agree that trust is likely a central issue for him. I like to think that by the end of DA2, he started to actually trust himself and his own moral compass instead of being pushed and pulled by others' expectations and requirements. I'm curious to see how relatively 'independent' he might be in the next game. Could be more accustomed now to trusting his own instincts? Or could something happen that makes him backslide and become a (perhaps reluctant) follower again?
I definitely think he'd be more independent - I can't see him blindly trusting an authority figure again after Meredith. That said, he was (maybe still is?) a soldier, and likely still has the soldier's mindset, so I do think he would be willing to follow a party leader pragmatically, since a group of fighters all going off on their own tangents instead of working with a cohesive strategy won't be very successful. I guess what I'm trying to say is I think he would follow the leader on practical matters because it just works better that way, but would want to make up his own mind on moral matters, if that makes sense?Agree that his continuing evolution will be interesting to see. I also agree that trust is likely a central issue for him. I like to think that by the end of DA2, he started to actually trust himself and his own moral compass instead of being pushed and pulled by others' expectations and requirements. I'm curious to see how relatively 'independent' he might be in the next game. Could be more accustomed now to trusting his own instincts? Or could something happen that makes him backslide and become a (perhaps reluctant) follower again?
I agree that he's still a soldier, so I always imagine a scene where he disagrees with our Inquisitor, but necessarily in private since, in his world, you don't question your superior's orders in front of others. I think it could be a kinda cute call back to his training, particularly if your Inquisitor's style is a bit more lax. And, even more so if you're sleeping with him.TreeHuggerHannah wrote...
I definitely think he'd be more independent - I can't see him blindly trusting an authority figure again after Meredith. That said, he was (maybe still is?) a soldier, and likely still has the soldier's mindset, so I do think he would be willing to follow a party leader pragmatically, since a group of fighters all going off on their own tangents instead of working with a cohesive strategy won't be very successful. I guess what I'm trying to say is I think he would follow the leader on practical matters because it just works better that way, but would want to make up his own mind on moral matters, if that makes sense?Agree that his continuing evolution will be interesting to see. I also agree that trust is likely a central issue for him. I like to think that by the end of DA2, he started to actually trust himself and his own moral compass instead of being pushed and pulled by others' expectations and requirements. I'm curious to see how relatively 'independent' he might be in the next game. Could be more accustomed now to trusting his own instincts? Or could something happen that makes him backslide and become a (perhaps reluctant) follower again?
At this point I would see Cullen trusting another person more as a touchstone for his own decision-making than relying on that person to make the decisions for him. I do think he's probably gained confidence in his own ability to make choices after standing up to Meredith, but I could also see him looking to a friend/party leader/love interest for things like "In your opinion am I still doing the right thing?" "Am I going off the rails here?" etc. Basically someone who can show him his own reflection through eyes he can trust to help instead of taking advantage. I think that's something we all need, but especially Cullen since he's been jerked around so much,
All pure speculation on my part, obviously.
Modifié par R2s Muse, 12 novembre 2013 - 12:21 .
LOL I always wonder if they'll ever touch upon that again in the future. Sadly, I could also imagine him scoffing at such a simplistic ideal after everythinig he's seen/been through. Would be an interesting conversation, nonetheless.Mahumia wrote...
I also think that he will be more independant and has gained more confidence in his own moral compass. I think there might actually be a two-ways cooperation between him and the inquisitor in finding support in eachother and asking eachothers opinions. A strong cooperation and bonding based on mutual trust and understanding.
Perhaps he will grab back to his childhood dream of being a knight and keep that ideal in his mind when making decisions?
R2s Muse wrote...
LOL I always wonder if they'll ever touch upon that again in the future. Sadly, I could also imagine him scoffing at such a simplistic ideal after everythinig he's seen/been through. Would be an interesting conversation, nonetheless.Mahumia wrote...
I also think that he will be more independant and has gained more confidence in his own moral compass. I think there might actually be a two-ways cooperation between him and the inquisitor in finding support in eachother and asking eachothers opinions. A strong cooperation and bonding based on mutual trust and understanding.
Perhaps he will grab back to his childhood dream of being a knight and keep that ideal in his mind when making decisions?
Apparently boundaries that didn't include genocide.Cullen also seemed like one of the few characters in Kirkwall who was actually trying to do the right thing instead of just being out for himself; even if my Hawke didn't always agree with his perception of what the right thing was, she respected the attempt. He clearly had boundaries he wasn't willing to cross in spite of what happened to him, and that takes a lot of courage.
From a canon standpoint, I have to say I disagree with this - that is in fact exactly where his boundary seems to be on the subject. If you side with the templars (which I didn't, my Hawke sided reluctantly with mages, but I've watched various alternate versions) Cullen will defy Meredith about sparing the mages who surrendered when she wants them dead. His argument for doing so is that things were even worse during the Ferelden situation, and even then some mage lives were saved.Xilizhra wrote...
Apparently boundaries that didn't include genocide.Cullen also seemed like one of the few characters in Kirkwall who was actually trying to do the right thing instead of just being out for himself; even if my Hawke didn't always agree with his perception of what the right thing was, she respected the attempt. He clearly had boundaries he wasn't willing to cross in spite of what happened to him, and that takes a lot of courage.
The mages in question are rendered Tranquil after the battle, so it doesn't mean much. He also has no qualms about slaughtering those who only want to defend themselves, or even if he does, will still do so. As does Hawke if siding with the templars.From a canon standpoint, I have to say I disagree with this - that is in fact exactly where his boundary seems to be on the subject. If you side with the templars (which I didn't, my Hawke sided reluctantly with mages, but I've watched various alternate versions) Cullen will defy Meredith about sparing the mages who surrendered when she wants them dead. His argument for doing so is that things were even worse during the Ferelden situation, and even then some mage lives were saved.
My Hawke did too, siding with mages, even though she was actively trying to avoid causing any unnecessary deaths. Personally, I think that's more the nature of the story - that there isn't a way to stay on the middle ground, and people who are primarily trying to defend themselves will still become a danger to others - than any personal failing of Cullen's.Xilizhra wrote...
The mages in question are rendered Tranquil after the battle, so it doesn't mean much. He also has no qualms about slaughtering those who only want to defend themselves, or even if he does, will still do so. As does Hawke if siding with the templars.
Xilizhra wrote...
As a sidenote, I apologize if I came on too strong; I'm used to debating with people who are equally intractable. I'm not trying to bullrush you out or anything.
) But thanks for the thought, that was kind. 
The templars are the aggressors; their lives are forfeit without moral issue unless they surrender.My Hawke did too, siding with mages, even though she was actively trying to avoid causing any unnecessary deaths. Personally, I think that's more the nature of the story - that there isn't a way to stay on the middle ground, and people who are primarily trying to defend themselves will still become a danger to others - than any personal failing of Cullen's.
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