Xilizhra wrote...
Both, if possible.
Yeah, no problem. I just wasn't sure you were interested enough for me to elaborate at length on the subject.
During the second act, my Hawke started to realize how badly amiss things were in the Kirkwall Circle. Prior to that, she'd been using it as a backup plan for wayward mages, but at that point she started to shift her views. Although she was not and probably would never be opposed to dangerous mages being protected from themselves by being contained, it became clear that Meredith's agenda was a bad thing for mages and for Kirkwall.
That being the case, she tried to set herself up as sort of a buffer between Meredith and the mage rebellion. Because of Meredith's political and ecclesiastical power, they couldn't just take her on directly, but Hawke was trying to quietly undermine her without provoking her to come down on Anders and his mage underground like a ton of bricks. Hawke was trying to protect Anders and his friends, but he didn't seem to get why we couldn't just yell Meredith into submission, and that it wasn't a good idea to force a confrontation we weren't in a position to win. I got rivalry twice while meeting with Meredith and not being snarky enough, even though Hawke had stated repeatedly in Anders' presence that she was working against Meredith and even though doing Meredith's errands would give us the opportunity to free the mages in question - and even though taunting Meredith into flat-out killing us would do a total of nothing for the mage cause.
Secondly, Hawke tried to tell Anders the truth about Justice. She was genuinely worried about Anders, and felt that his own personality was getting more and more subsumed by this entity. This was not something Anders wanted to hear. Rivalry ensues.
Also, it was Hawke's belief that mages needed to be as truthful as possible about the evidence we discovered, even if that evidence wasn't flattering to mages. To do otherwise would make mages appear even more untrustworthy and self-serving, and would deny mages the self-knowledge that would help them prepare themselves for what they might face in the future. Two specific times I got rivalry from Anders for this: telling Orsino that Meredith wasn't involved in the events of Best Served Cold (she's a terrible person, but she wasn't involved) and talking bluntly about what we learned about the magisters during Legacy instead of denying or sugarcoating it.
I will say I found the Legacy one most baffling, because what we found out had nothing to do with Hawke personally and was completely out of her control, so Anders blaming her for it seemed pretty random.
During Act One, Hawke seemed on the road to full rivalry with Anders, but then it switched directions in Act Two because they agreed on being anti-demon and anti-blood magic. For the rest of the game it hovered right around the middle, with friendship and rivalry points going both ways.
I should add that this was specific to Anders. Hawke got full rivalry with Merrill early on and then they reached an understanding and liked each other. So this swinging back and forth of the pendulum wasn't a mage thing, it was an Anders thing.
Sometimes two characters just fail to click, and that was the case with Anders and my Hawke I guess.
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