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[R2s Muse]

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

He will not be doing that with child-Cole  Nope, no way!

LOL This is good to hear...

Yep, I'm not into the kiddie love  so no worries :lol:

LOL I'm glad DG did settle it tho, since we've talked about it so much. And, I'm glad to know that I was right to be skeeved out by the notion of romancing him!  

I do wonder about his stabby tendencies, tho, as a companion. That and his invisibility always seemed like real obstacles for him being a follower. But then, he's listed as a possible follower in the leaked survey, so... someone thought it was a viable notion!

Modifié par R2s Muse, 21 novembre 2013 - 07:24 .

[CuriousArtemis]

R2s Muse wrote...

I do wonder about his stabby tendencies, tho, as a companion. That and his invisibility always seemed like real obstacles for him being a follower. But then, he listed as a possible follower in the leaked survey, so... someone thought it was a viable notion!

Well, that was yet another indication that he was to have evolved for the game. But, evidently not *shrugs* I really have no idea. Can you tell I'm bummed about this? lol

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Mahumia wrote...

I can understand why Cole is not going to be a LI, seeing his mental age. Not sure about him being a companion either (and not just because I want Cullen). I think that he is very interesting, but I have a hard time picturing him in such position with the inquisitor. They appear waaay too far apart, to me.

It could be an interesting dynamic.

I mean, we've had siblings and stuff in the past but we've never had a companion that's like a kid before. I guess we'd get the opportunity to look after him as though he was a child in terms of taking him under our wing and stuff. Could be kinda sweet really. I was surprised how attached to Clem I became in The Walking Dead game, so I can only presume that our maternal/paternal instincts will probably kick in with Cole too.

... Which could be a bit of a problem, if we get to romance Cullen. Hm, this could get dramatic.

Hmm, I'm not sure I'm following here. Why would feeling maternally/paternally toward Cole impact Cullen? Because Cole is probably a demon, and therefore we'd spend every night around camp stopping Cullen's sneaky overtures to kill Cole... ?

The problem being that we could bond with Cole in a maternal/paternal way, but Cullen may be concerned because Cole is some sort of abomination that's possibly been using blood magic (of sorts), so it could be a case that Cullen would be like: "This thing is an abomination that's been killing ALL the things. It's me, or him blah blah blood magic!"

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Mahumia wrote...

I can understand why Cole is not going to be a LI, seeing his mental age. Not sure about him being a companion either (and not just because I want Cullen). I think that he is very interesting, but I have a hard time picturing him in such position with the inquisitor. They appear waaay too far apart, to me.

It could be an interesting dynamic.

I mean, we've had siblings and stuff in the past but we've never had a companion that's like a kid before. I guess we'd get the opportunity to look after him as though he was a child in terms of taking him under our wing and stuff. Could be kinda sweet really. I was surprised how attached to Clem I became in The Walking Dead game, so I can only presume that our maternal/paternal instincts will probably kick in with Cole too.

... Which could be a bit of a problem, if we get to romance Cullen. Hm, this could get dramatic.

Hmm, I'm not sure I'm following here. Why would feeling maternally/paternally toward Cole impact Cullen? Because Cole is probably a demon, and therefore we'd spend every night around camp stopping Cullen's sneaky overtures to kill Cole... ?

The problem being that we could bond with Cole in a maternal/paternal way, but Cullen may be concerned because Cole is some sort of abomination that's possibly been using blood magic (of sorts), so it could be a case that Cullen would be like: "This thing is an abomination that's been killing ALL the things. It's me, or him blah blah blood magic!"

Ah, gotcha! Yeah... I sure hope Cullen's not that kind of boyfriend. "You can't be friends with him or I'll break up with you." Meh. <_<

[Potato Cat]

Honestly, it's probably only Vivienne I won't kill for Cullen because she sounds so awesome. But she also seems sensible with her magic so I'm not really worried. She might try to kill my first Inquisitor though. Pity.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Mahumia wrote...

I can understand why Cole is not going to be a LI, seeing his mental age. Not sure about him being a companion either (and not just because I want Cullen). I think that he is very interesting, but I have a hard time picturing him in such position with the inquisitor. They appear waaay too far apart, to me.

It could be an interesting dynamic.

I mean, we've had siblings and stuff in the past but we've never had a companion that's like a kid before. I guess we'd get the opportunity to look after him as though he was a child in terms of taking him under our wing and stuff. Could be kinda sweet really. I was surprised how attached to Clem I became in The Walking Dead game, so I can only presume that our maternal/paternal instincts will probably kick in with Cole too.

... Which could be a bit of a problem, if we get to romance Cullen. Hm, this could get dramatic.

Hmm, I'm not sure I'm following here. Why would feeling maternally/paternally toward Cole impact Cullen? Because Cole is probably a demon, and therefore we'd spend every night around camp stopping Cullen's sneaky overtures to kill Cole... ?

The problem being that we could bond with Cole in a maternal/paternal way, but Cullen may be concerned because Cole is some sort of abomination that's possibly been using blood magic (of sorts), so it could be a case that Cullen would be like: "This thing is an abomination that's been killing ALL the things. It's me, or him blah blah blood magic!"

Ah, gotcha! Yeah... I sure hope Cullen's not that kind of boyfriend. "You can't be friends with him or I'll break up with you." Meh. <_<

*Cough* Seb *cough* :lol:

[R2s Muse]

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

I do wonder about his stabby tendencies, tho, as a companion. That and his invisibility always seemed like real obstacles for him being a follower. But then, he listed as a possible follower in the leaked survey, so... someone thought it was a viable notion!

Well, that was yet another indication that he was to have evolved for the game. But, evidently not *shrugs* I really have no idea. Can you tell I'm bummed about this? lol

LOL Yeah. There's still a chance we will see him, tho! Buck up little camper!

[LolaLei]

Elfman wrote...

Honestly, it's probably only Vivienne I won't kill for Cullen because she sounds so awesome. But she also seems sensible with her magic so I'm not really worried. She might try to kill my first Inquisitor though. Pity.

I imagine Cullen would probably have some respect for a First Enchanter, since they only get to that status after fully mastering their magical talents... we'll ignore the Orsino-monster thing, he didn't see that. 

[R2s Muse]

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[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Mahumia wrote...

I can understand why Cole is not going to be a LI, seeing his mental age. Not sure about him being a companion either (and not just because I want Cullen). I think that he is very interesting, but I have a hard time picturing him in such position with the inquisitor. They appear waaay too far apart, to me.

It could be an interesting dynamic.

I mean, we've had siblings and stuff in the past but we've never had a companion that's like a kid before. I guess we'd get the opportunity to look after him as though he was a child in terms of taking him under our wing and stuff. Could be kinda sweet really. I was surprised how attached to Clem I became in The Walking Dead game, so I can only presume that our maternal/paternal instincts will probably kick in with Cole too.

... Which could be a bit of a problem, if we get to romance Cullen. Hm, this could get dramatic.

Hmm, I'm not sure I'm following here. Why would feeling maternally/paternally toward Cole impact Cullen? Because Cole is probably a demon, and therefore we'd spend every night around camp stopping Cullen's sneaky overtures to kill Cole... ?

The problem being that we could bond with Cole in a maternal/paternal way, but Cullen may be concerned because Cole is some sort of abomination that's possibly been using blood magic (of sorts), so it could be a case that Cullen would be like: "This thing is an abomination that's been killing ALL the things. It's me, or him blah blah blood magic!"

Ah, gotcha! Yeah... I sure hope Cullen's not that kind of boyfriend. "You can't be friends with him or I'll break up with you." Meh. <_<

*Cough* Seb *cough* :lol:

LOL Touche!  Heh. Guess it won't bother me so much, after all...

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Honestly, it's probably only Vivienne I won't kill for Cullen because she sounds so awesome. But she also seems sensible with her magic so I'm not really worried. She might try to kill my first Inquisitor though. Pity.

I imagine Cullen would probably have some respect for a First Enchanter, since they only get to that status after fully mastering their magical talents... we'll ignore the Orsino-monster thing, he didn't see that. 

I am just so excited to meet Vivienne. Watching that recent demo vid and watching her walk, or rather, mince, was awesome.

[Potato Cat]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
I imagine Cullen would probably have some respect for a First Enchanter, since they only get to that status after fully mastering their magical talents... we'll ignore the Orsino-monster thing, he didn't see that. 

I am just so excited to meet Vivienne. Watching that recent demo vid and watching her walk, or rather, mince, was awesome.

Oh I know! She's so cool. I wonder what her specialisation is. If Sera is horrible, she's my back up bestie for my elf.

[Mahumia]

R2s Muse wrote...

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They are cute! But I know I am not going to get them anyway <_<

[meanieweenie]

I'm super late to the Cole discussion but I'm going to go ahead and horrify all by admitting that I got a big Sling Blade impression from his character. lol

[CuriousArtemis]

I've never heard of that movie  It's interesting how people can read a character so differently!

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Conveniently I just started reading Asunder, so I know who you guys are talking about!  (I'm still not very far in because I've only had a chance to read at work after the kiddos are in bed, and that's far from uninterrupted reading time, but I don't mind spoilers.)


I'm definitely getting more of an adolescent vibe than a mature/peer vibe from Cole, so I was a little confused that people wanted him as LI, but we all have different character intepretations - apparently mine isn't totally off the wall with him.


I don't necessarily think Cole and Cullen would conflict in a party, though. I mean, presumably by this point Cullen has done some things he's not proud of, probably things he deeply regrets. I would think you could make a glass-houses-and-stones appeal for Cole, particularly if you couched it in terms of "Cole is redeemable and needs our protection." Cullen seems to have some pretty strong protective instincts, so if you could get him to see Cole as someone who needs protecting as well as someone who is dangerous, the dynamic seems potentially workable to me?

Modifié par TreeHuggerHannah, 22 novembre 2013 - 12:06 .

[CuriousArtemis]

I think we need to know more about Cole. It was so incredibly ambiguous in Asunder (or maybe I'm just dense?)... hard to tell how Cullen (or someone like Cullen) will react to a character we know hardly anything about. Basically, we've only seen Cole react to things... we still don't really know what he IS, you know?

If he's a blood mage, or if he's a demon, as protective as Cullen is, I can't see him agreeing to travel with such a person/creature. He is pretty firm when it comes to stuff like that; it all goes back to his religion, and honor and duty. He thinks it would be morally WRONG to allow something like that to exist.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Yeah, I agree. From what I've read so far (and as I mentioned, I'm not that far into the book) Cole doesn't seem to fit precisely into any of the established categories. So it is indeed hard to know how Cullen would react - I just think he could end up leaning in more of a protective direction than a smiting direction depending on how he interpreted Cole.

If they couldn't co-exist, I'm not sure exactly how it would work on a meta level if they were both potential companions. So far we haven't had mutually exclusive companions prior to endgame-ish choices (except Carver and Bethany, but that seemed to be primarily about gameplay mechanics rather than story,) so it would make the experience quite different if Cullen and Cole were companion options who couldn't both be recruited.

Modifié par TreeHuggerHannah, 22 novembre 2013 - 01:50 .

[HurricaneGinger]

TreeHuggerHannah wrote...

Yeah, I agree. From what I've read so far (and as I mentioned, I'm not that far into the book) Cole doesn't seem to fit precisely into any of the established categories. So it is indeed hard to know how Cullen would react - I just think he could end up leaning in more of a protective direction than a smiting direction depending on how he interpreted Cole.

If they couldn't co-exist, I'm not sure exactly how it would work on a meta level if they were both potential companions. So far we haven't had mutually exclusive companions prior to endgame-ish choices (except Carver and Bethany, but that seemed to be primarily about gameplay mechanics rather than story,) so it would make the experience quite different if Cullen and Cole were companion options who couldn't both be recruited.

I agree. Cullen may disapprove of him at first because he's an unknown, but he may become protective of Cole. Cole creeps me out, but I also have this urge to protect him. It's very conflicting. XD

[Kirrahe1]

R2s Muse wrote...

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Hey thanks for posting this!  I bought the Mabari for my niece since she always goes on about how badly she wants one IRL.  

[TreeHuggerHannah]

I am definitely a weirdo. I was playing Origins tonight, working on some quests in the Circle, and every time I was doing something scary and arcane in proximity to the library I found myself saying aloud to the screen, "Cullen, close your eyes!" because I was afraid it would be too triggering for him to watch. 

Modifié par TreeHuggerHannah, 22 novembre 2013 - 05:15 .

[Kirrahe1]

TreeHuggerHannah wrote...

Conveniently I just started reading Asunder, so I know who you guys are talking about!  (I'm still not very far in because I've only had a chance to read at work after the kiddos are in bed, and that's far from uninterrupted reading time, but I don't mind spoilers.)


I'm definitely getting more of an adolescent vibe than a mature/peer vibe from Cole, so I was a little confused that people wanted him as LI, but we all have different character intepretations - apparently mine isn't totally off the wall with him.


I don't necessarily think Cole and Cullen would conflict in a party, though. I mean, presumably by this point Cullen has done some things he's not proud of, probably things he deeply regrets. I would think you could make a glass-houses-and-stones appeal for Cole, particularly if you couched it in terms of "Cole is redeemable and needs our protection." Cullen seems to have some pretty strong protective instincts, so if you could get him to see Cole as someone who needs protecting as well as someone who is dangerous, the dynamic seems potentially workable to me?

I bought that book ages ago and I got incredibly close to the end but was never able to finish it  (but I really want to!).  Now because I was never able to conclude it I am completely willing to believe I may have missed a colossal amount of growth in Coles’ character.  From what I was able to read about his personality I personally got the teenager/young adult vibe off of him as well.  In fact, in some scenes he came across even younger than that.  However, even if there was some tipping point in the book where he acted more like an adult, from a development standpoint if someone is functioning at about a child/teenager maturity level wouldn’t it take way more than just a couple of events to make them suddenly established (mentally speaking)?  Now it is possible that a few years passed between Inquisition and Asunder (I’m not great about timeline information) but just as a random example let’s say 3 years passed.  Wouldn’t his psychological development just proceed from 12 to about 15?  I haven’t ever witnessed or read any cases where someone who was delayed in their maturity stage suddenly progress to the age that matched their body. (THH would know more about this aspect of teenage years than I would so feel free to jump in and slap me if I’m wrong lol:P).  The writers do very well with this sort of thing so I would be really surprised if he suddenly just adapted to where he was “supposed” to be…whatever age that is.  So if DG doesn’t want to make him an LI I absolutely see where he is coming from.  Unless of course enough time passed that he was truly an adult in all aspects.  I do want to say that if you were hoping he was an LI I’m not judging at all and there is nothing wrong with it if you did.  I assume you read his character differently than I, and your goal wasn’t to romance a kid.  To quote an awesome friend who always fell or needy cases, it was probably more along the lines of, “Must heal sweet broken bird!” lol.   

 No matter what the writers decide to do with him I just hope the other characters don’t treat him wretchedly.  He is one of those people where he can come off eerie enough that you could easily make others see him as an absolute monster if you voiced a lot of calumnies about him, especially at such a tumultuous time during the series.

Off topic/on topic I read a couple of days ago about Patrick Weekes writing a new novel for DA called The Masked Empire.  Pretty exciting…still need to finish Asunder but I guess I have some time!   

Modifié par Kirrahe1, 22 novembre 2013 - 05:41 .

[TreeHuggerHannah]

I haven’t ever witnessed or read any cases where someone who was delayed in their maturity stage suddenly progress to the age that matched their body. (THH would know more about this aspect of teenage years than I would so feel free to jump in and slap me if I’m wrong lol:P). 

In general I would agree with this, particularly in a case where he has (presumably) had no therapeutic intervention in the meantime. Caveat that everyone is different and we all develop at different rates - but I think it would be rare.

Of course there are lots of cases where the level of development that a person is able to demonstrate flutuates based on external factors (for example in a more positive or supportive environment more maturity is demonstrated, in a negative or adversarial environment there's some regression) and cases where a person demonstrates uneven development in different areas (for example, they may have a sexual awareness and interest beyond their years but be significantly behind in their ability to make good decisions,) and it's possible one or both of those scenarios could fit Cole - I don't really know enough about him to speculate.

In general, though, I think the odds of Cole moving from an adolescent or preadolescent level of emotional development to an adult level of emotional development - even as a chronological adult - in just a few years not only without any type of therapy but also without a social support system would be negligible.

Modifié par TreeHuggerHannah, 22 novembre 2013 - 06:04 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Um, that is all very well and good...... for a human lol Cole, however, is... well, what is he? We don't know.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

motomotogirl wrote...

Um, that is all very well and good...... for a human lol Cole, however, is... well, what is he? We don't know.

Yeah, that's very true. It could be different for... um... Coles? I don't even know what to call him.