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#67701
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Elfman wrote...

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What does that even mean? From what I can work out it sounds like a mage character would be more than your average circle or apostate mage, especially considering Mark Darrah hinted a while back that we might even be directly involved in how the veil got torn open in the first place (presumably either through choice, or unwittingly). 


From what I gathered, it just meant that the mage class might have a different background to the warriors and rogues because the context of the Mage-Templar War puts greater emphasis on being a mage. Not that we ourselves would have played any more of a part to play in the Veil opening if we had played as a warrior or rogue. Sort of undermines those classes.

This is also my interpretation. That if you want to be warrior or rogue, it's a simple choice of two toggles: race and class. But if you want to be a mage, there's an additional dimension, like Circle mage, apostate mage, Dalish mage, I dunno, something like that.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Elfman wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
What does that even mean? From what I can work out it sounds like a mage character would be more than your average circle or apostate mage, especially considering Mark Darrah hinted a while back that we might even be directly involved in how the veil got torn open in the first place (presumably either through choice, or unwittingly). 


From what I gathered, it just meant that the mage class might have a different background to the warriors and rogues because the context of the Mage-Templar War puts greater emphasis on being a mage. Not that we ourselves would have played any more of a part to play in the Veil opening if we had played as a warrior or rogue. Sort of undermines those classes.

This is also my interpretation. That if you want to be warrior or rogue, it's a simple choice of two toggles: race and class. But if you want to be a mage, there's an additional dimension, like Circle mage, apostate mage, Dalish mage, I dunno, something like that.


I thought picking between circle mage and apostate mage in the background options would likely be a given anyway, since the "background options" will be done pretty much the same way as they did for Shepard in ME1 where you'd pick where/how you were born, what planet, your childhood, etc.

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Speaking of which, does anyone have the post/tweet/whatever where Mark Darrah (or whoever) spoke about the Inquisitor possibly being directly involved with the veil tear?

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They also hint about Iron Bull that "you'll get to meet and spend some time with". They seem to be heavily hinting that he's a companion.

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LolaLei wrote...

They also hint about Iron Bull that "you'll get to meet and spend some time with". They seem to be heavily hinting that he's a companion.


There was? Damn!

Now I think we REALLY need a 4 warriors, 3 rogues, 2 mages split in the companions if we want Cullen!

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Oh! Ok, here we go:

"The mage class will all have the same background "blurb" (in character creator) but they will diverge fairly drastically to an extent that is still under investigation."

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LolaLei wrote...

Speaking of which, does anyone have the post/tweet/whatever where Mark Darrah (or whoever) spoke about the Inquisitor possibly being directly involved with the veil tear?

it was in one of the videos. I believe the first or second gameinformer, Altho maybe instead the gamescon World Unveiled one. 

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Speaking of which, does anyone have the post/tweet/whatever where Mark Darrah (or whoever) spoke about the Inquisitor possibly being directly involved with the veil tear?

it was in one of the videos. I believe the first or second gameinformer, Altho maybe instead the gamescon World Unveiled one. 


Oh gawd, I'm gonna have to watch through all of them all over again, aren't it. :lol:

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Lola: give me a moment. I'll find it.

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MDarrah at about 1:00

http://www.gameinfor...evelopment.aspx

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R2s Muse wrote...

MDarrah at about 1:00

http://www.gameinfor...evelopment.aspx


You're a star, thanks!

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Honestly I thought they had a longer version of that clip, but haven't found it yet.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Honestly I thought they had a longer version of that clip, but haven't found it yet.


Doesn't matter too much, it just serves as evidence/proof of the topic I'm talking about so that I don't get people asking me to "prove" my findings.

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Honestly I thought they had a longer version of that clip, but haven't found it yet.


Doesn't matter too much, it just serves as evidence/proof of the topic I'm talking about so that I don't get people asking me to "prove" my findings.

good point!

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Does anyone have that picture of Sassy Cullen in nothing but pink fur? I need it for.... reasons.

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Ta! I don't suppose there's a bigger version of it anywhere?

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LolaLei wrote...

They also hint about Iron Bull that "you'll get to meet and spend some time with". They seem to be heavily hinting that he's a companion.

Hmm, to me that does not auto-imply that he is an actual companion (unless there is more than that one quote I do not know about?). Perhaps he will be an NPC you get as temporary party member or someone who hangs around a lot at (one of) your base(s)?

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LolaLei wrote...

Ta! I don't suppose there's a bigger version of it anywhere?

No, I believe that's as big as it ever was.

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Mahumia wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

They also hint about Iron Bull that "you'll get to meet and spend some time with". They seem to be heavily hinting that he's a companion.

Hmm, to me that does not auto-imply that he is an actual companion (unless there is more than that one quote I do not know about?). Perhaps he will be an NPC you get as temporary party member or someone who hangs around a lot at (one of) your base(s)?

That's kinda what I was thinking, too. That explicitly mentioning that you can meet and spend time with, as opposed to spend ALL your time with, sounds to me like he's not a full time follower.

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Mahumia wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

They also hint about Iron Bull that "you'll get to meet and spend some time with". They seem to be heavily hinting that he's a companion.

Hmm, to me that does not auto-imply that he is an actual companion (unless there is more than that one quote I do not know about?). Perhaps he will be an NPC you get as temporary party member or someone who hangs around a lot at (one of) your base(s)?


It's more the tone they're speaking in, like heavily hinting/teasing at it. You'd have to give the podcast a listen to see what I mean. 

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R2s Muse wrote...

Also, in perusing my DA:I stuff I had totally forgotten about this. It seems default!Inquisitor will be a rogue this go around.


Question to Matt Rhodes:
First of all I love all this concept art. As someone who does a lot of speculating this stuff always gets me excited. So I've been wondering something about the Inquisitor. Is it just me or is the Inquisitor portrayed as a rogue a lot?

Matt Rhodes:
Thanks! You’re right, there’s an abundance of rogues and that’s not an accident. There are two reasons. The first is that the iconic Warden was a warrior and the Iconic Hawke was a mage, so we wanted to try pushing rogues this time. In fact we built the rogue version first. The second is simple, shameless favoritism. I always role rogue. Always. It’s my class. Unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise, I’ll make the Inquisitor a rogue every time.


Hey! That was mine :P. I think he took it down though. I was looking for it and couldn't find it. This quote is what definitely pushed me into Rogue this time around. I have a question for you guys though. Do you think you will be leaving Crestwood to the Red Temps, saving it or trying to save both. Personally I'm gonna send my soldiers to the village while I go after the Keep.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Also, in perusing my DA:I stuff I had totally forgotten about this. It seems default!Inquisitor will be a rogue this go around.


Question to Matt Rhodes:
First of all I love all this concept art. As someone who does a lot of speculating this stuff always gets me excited. So I've been wondering something about the Inquisitor. Is it just me or is the Inquisitor portrayed as a rogue a lot?

Matt Rhodes:
Thanks! You’re right, there’s an abundance of rogues and that’s not an accident. There are two reasons. The first is that the iconic Warden was a warrior and the Iconic Hawke was a mage, so we wanted to try pushing rogues this time. In fact we built the rogue version first. The second is simple, shameless favoritism. I always role rogue. Always. It’s my class. Unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise, I’ll make the Inquisitor a rogue every time.


Hey! That was mine :P. I think he took it down though. I was looking for it and couldn't find it. This quote is what definitely pushed me into Rogue this time around. I have a question for you guys though. Do you think you will be leaving Crestwood to the Red Temps, saving it or trying to save both. Personally I'm gonna send my soldiers to the village while I go after the Keep.


I'm gonna try and save both, but if I can't then I'll be saving the village over the Keep.

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Speaking of which, I noticed that although there's a time limit to saving the village and/or the keep, the timer itself was pretty slow. I guess it could have been purposely slowed down for the benefit of the demo, since they're talking all the way through it and explaining things etc, but if it wasn't then I see no reason why we wouldn't be able to save both with relative ease (with some careful planning and preparation before hand).

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I think I will send my soldiers to Keep and then try to save the village myself. I reckon by sending them to Keep, that'll boost the amount of time I have to do both whereas if I sent them to village and then just buggered off to the Keep, they'll die but I'll have longer to get there while the Templars are distracted.