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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

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Also, in perusing my DA:I stuff I had totally forgotten about this. It seems default!Inquisitor will be a rogue this go around.


Question to Matt Rhodes:
First of all I love all this concept art. As someone who does a lot of speculating this stuff always gets me excited. So I've been wondering something about the Inquisitor. Is it just me or is the Inquisitor portrayed as a rogue a lot?

Matt Rhodes:
Thanks! You’re right, there’s an abundance of rogues and that’s not an accident. There are two reasons. The first is that the iconic Warden was a warrior and the Iconic Hawke was a mage, so we wanted to try pushing rogues this time. In fact we built the rogue version first. The second is simple, shameless favoritism. I always role rogue. Always. It’s my class. Unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise, I’ll make the Inquisitor a rogue every time.


Hey! That was mine :P. I think he took it down though. I was looking for it and couldn't find it. This quote is what definitely pushed me into Rogue this time around. I have a question for you guys though. Do you think you will be leaving Crestwood to the Red Temps, saving it or trying to save both. Personally I'm gonna send my soldiers to the village while I go after the Keep.

LOL I know! Just didn't want to 'out' you. :)  Huh, you're right. Matt Rhodes deleted it from his tumblr. Hmm, that's weird. My conspiracy theory brain is working...  Perhaps we're not supposed to know that default!Inquisitor is a rogue? Well, here it is on mine, in case you don't have a link on yours.

http://r2smuse.tumbl...-art-as-someone


On the Crestwood choice, I'm gonna finesse it however I can to try to save both. Of course. Because diplomatic knight in shining armor is how I roll. :D

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Danny Boy 7

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LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Also, in perusing my DA:I stuff I had totally forgotten about this. It seems default!Inquisitor will be a rogue this go around.


Question to Matt Rhodes:
First of all I love all this concept art. As someone who does a lot of speculating this stuff always gets me excited. So I've been wondering something about the Inquisitor. Is it just me or is the Inquisitor portrayed as a rogue a lot?

Matt Rhodes:
Thanks! You’re right, there’s an abundance of rogues and that’s not an accident. There are two reasons. The first is that the iconic Warden was a warrior and the Iconic Hawke was a mage, so we wanted to try pushing rogues this time. In fact we built the rogue version first. The second is simple, shameless favoritism. I always role rogue. Always. It’s my class. Unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise, I’ll make the Inquisitor a rogue every time.


Hey! That was mine :P. I think he took it down though. I was looking for it and couldn't find it. This quote is what definitely pushed me into Rogue this time around. I have a question for you guys though. Do you think you will be leaving Crestwood to the Red Temps, saving it or trying to save both. Personally I'm gonna send my soldiers to the village while I go after the Keep.


I'm gonna try and save both, but if I can't then I'll be saving the village over the Keep.


Same, though I do want to see what happens if we do let the village go. I wonder how many times Varric puts up with those kind of sacrifices though? Btw I loved your last DA vid Lola. Spit take ftw.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Also, in perusing my DA:I stuff I had totally forgotten about this. It seems default!Inquisitor will be a rogue this go around.


Question to Matt Rhodes:
First of all I love all this concept art. As someone who does a lot of speculating this stuff always gets me excited. So I've been wondering something about the Inquisitor. Is it just me or is the Inquisitor portrayed as a rogue a lot?

Matt Rhodes:
Thanks! You’re right, there’s an abundance of rogues and that’s not an accident. There are two reasons. The first is that the iconic Warden was a warrior and the Iconic Hawke was a mage, so we wanted to try pushing rogues this time. In fact we built the rogue version first. The second is simple, shameless favoritism. I always role rogue. Always. It’s my class. Unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise, I’ll make the Inquisitor a rogue every time.


Hey! That was mine :P. I think he took it down though. I was looking for it and couldn't find it. This quote is what definitely pushed me into Rogue this time around. I have a question for you guys though. Do you think you will be leaving Crestwood to the Red Temps, saving it or trying to save both. Personally I'm gonna send my soldiers to the village while I go after the Keep.


I'm gonna try and save both, but if I can't then I'll be saving the village over the Keep.


Same, though I do want to see what happens if we do let the village go. I wonder how many times Varric puts up with those kind of sacrifices though? Btw I loved your last DA vid Lola. Spit take ftw.


I imagine he'd end up resenting the Inquisitor, or maybe leaving? Varric tends to have the same sort of outlook as I do when it comes to me playing as myself, so he'll probably end up being the first character I get to 100% friendship (or whatever it is) again.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Also, in perusing my DA:I stuff I had totally forgotten about this. It seems default!Inquisitor will be a rogue this go around.


Question to Matt Rhodes:
First of all I love all this concept art. As someone who does a lot of speculating this stuff always gets me excited. So I've been wondering something about the Inquisitor. Is it just me or is the Inquisitor portrayed as a rogue a lot?

Matt Rhodes:
Thanks! You’re right, there’s an abundance of rogues and that’s not an accident. There are two reasons. The first is that the iconic Warden was a warrior and the Iconic Hawke was a mage, so we wanted to try pushing rogues this time. In fact we built the rogue version first. The second is simple, shameless favoritism. I always role rogue. Always. It’s my class. Unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise, I’ll make the Inquisitor a rogue every time.


Hey! That was mine :P. I think he took it down though. I was looking for it and couldn't find it. This quote is what definitely pushed me into Rogue this time around. I have a question for you guys though. Do you think you will be leaving Crestwood to the Red Temps, saving it or trying to save both. Personally I'm gonna send my soldiers to the village while I go after the Keep.

LOL I know! Just didn't want to 'out' you. :)  Huh, you're right. Matt Rhodes deleted it from his tumblr. Hmm, that's weird. My conspiracy theory brain is working...  Perhaps we're not supposed to know that default!Inquisitor is a rogue? Well, here it is on mine, in case you don't have a link on yours.

http://r2smuse.tumbl...-art-as-someone


On the Crestwood choice, I'm gonna finesse it however I can to try to save both. Of course. Because diplomatic knight in shining armor is how I roll. :D

Np it was more like, "Ooh I wrote that and lost it" than "Thief, thou shalt burn for this transgression!!!"

I really want to save the village but am wondering if the "fall" of Crestwood is kinda like dueling with the Arishok. You know that dirty word, that isn't really a dirty word that we use and only becomes dirty when we put BioWare in front of it?

....canon.

I don't think the fall is canon I'm just trying to stick as close to the internal story as physically possible.

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Crestwood is a big place though. The red templars seem to be just trying to cause trouble for the Inquisition and attack everything because they're mad, rather than having any real concrete plan of action.

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LolaLei wrote...

Crestwood is a big place though. The red templars seem to be just trying to cause trouble for the Inquisition and attack everything because they're mad, rather than having any real concrete plan of action.

What do you mean?

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LolaLei wrote...

Crestwood is a big place though. The red templars seem to be just trying to cause trouble for the Inquisition and attack everything because they're mad, rather than having any real concrete plan of action.


Pretty much. I don't know if they had the strength to attack the Inquisitor's base - only the village.

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Hey all. I just had a terrible disappointment. I stumbled into some thread questioning varric and cullen. then i see a post by angrywolves that bioware decided to put varic..and Cullen in DAI. It's decided..yada, yade.

I thought it had maybe been confirmed while i was gone. i was actually about to be happy..ack...i feel like such a fool. angrywolves...

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crestwood, huh? well, ofc I'm gonna try and save the civilians. they're farmers and..whatnot. the keep-- aren't your soldiers supposed to be there? they can't fight off some stuff? they should be able to, imo. properly prepared and outfitted. that's their job, isn't it?

if i can save both,tho, i will def. try. but idk if that's an option.

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rapscallioness wrote...

Hey all. I just had a terrible disappointment. I stumbled into some thread questioning varric and cullen. then i see a post by angrywolves that bioware decided to put varic..and Cullen in DAI. It's decided..yada, yade.

I thought it had maybe been confirmed while i was gone. i was actually about to be happy..ack...i feel like such a fool. angrywolves...

Yeah, there's always folks on the BSN who like to talk about Cullen being a sure thing because 'it's so obvious.' But, there's still been nothing official, outside of our knowing that GE was doing VO work and the mention from Game Informer. Besides, I doubt there'll be news like that before the holidays.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

I really want to save the village but am wondering if the "fall" of Crestwood is kinda like dueling with the Arishok. You know that dirty word, that isn't really a dirty word that we use and only becomes dirty when we put BioWare in front of it?

....canon.

I don't think the fall is canon I'm just trying to stick as close to the internal story as physically possible.

I dunno. I kinda got the impression that the choice they made for the demo was not what most people would choose, even the tone of voice they used sounded to  me like, "This will sound like a crappy choice, but it's what we're picking just for the drama of it for the demo." Plus, I bet they wanted to show us the context of the dead villager shot from the trailer. But I'd be surprised if 'let all the villagers die' is the 'preferred' choice. It's still a Bioware game.

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I know I am going to save the village. The keep should be able to fend for themselves (from a roleplay point of view), and I will check them out after the village is secured. (I really was disappointed that you could not return to the keep in Awakening after saving Amarantine... if only for finding a smoking pile of rubble)

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Crestwood is a big place though. The red templars seem to be just trying to cause trouble for the Inquisition and attack everything because they're mad, rather than having any real concrete plan of action.

What do you mean?


... I'm not sure I understand your question.

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I'm not sure I get this 'canon' thing people are talking about. Whatever you pick is canon for your game. If you save Crestwood, then that's canon-- just as it's canon if you save the keep instead. (And saving both makes you a big damn hero!)

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Dirgegun wrote...

I'm not sure I get this 'canon' thing people are talking about. Whatever you pick is canon for your game. If you save Crestwood, then that's canon-- just as it's canon if you save the keep instead. (And saving both makes you a big damn hero!)


Agreed.

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I wonder how difficult we'll all find the moral dilemmas and choices/decisions we'll have to make in DAI? Just by watching that demo I felt uncomfortable seeing the Inquisitor abandon the villagers to save his Keep like that, lol.

Judging by the devs tweets and stuff it sounds like they're putting a lot of weight on tough decisions and facing the outcome of our actions this time around. I kinda feel like DAI is going to go all out with the feels (both good and bad) since it's a brand new engine, for a brand new game that can also be played on the new next gen consoles, so they're gonna be looking to go full on balls to the wall to make sure that the game makes an impact.

I bet my first ever play through will be a traumatic one, LOL! :lol:

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Yeah, I agree, Lola. I'm actually a lil nervous, and it was very uncomfortable to see the Inquisitor abandon the village to..what was it...sum crazed Templars, I believe.

But then also imagine returning to your Keep to see your soldiers decimated. And I imagine there's more than soldiers at the Keep. Like a lil community itself. It seemed to be quite populated. They still have the advantage w/all the soldiers there.

It's a hard call, but when it is I like to keep it simple. To me it's--the Keep as some soldiers already vs. the Village has none. So, if nothing else, it's a matter of balance. That's not to say either would emerge unscathed, but the Keep has a fighting chance already. The Village needs a fighting chance, too.

So..yeah. I have a feeling it's gonna be a tough game. The kinda game where you gently set the controller down, or slowly move back from the PC and just...think about it.. Lol!

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I think it's going to depend, for me, on what type of character I create. My first Inquisitor will be Dalish (I hope), so family will be important to him. He will assist the village over the Keep without a second thought. However, in a future playthrough, I may have a more practical (but not unfeeling) Inquisitor, who forces him/herself to acknowledge that ultimately the best tactical choice is to save the keep... lose the battle to win the war type thing.

I like to play a naive/stubborn character first as my canon, someone who thinks with his heart, is also perhaps a bit selfish, and refuses to see the big picture.

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I think I will send the soldiers to the keep and then go save the village myself.

Figure if you want something done right, do it yourself. We'll see how that'll turn out.

Wonder what it'd be like if you lost both? I imagine a lot of upset people.

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I wonder if you can send the soldiers to Crestwood, then your party can go destroy the boats and bring word to the Keep in case the Templars get any ideas? I think the soldiers can function on their own...but they did take some loses before. Hmm...

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 I remember one of the devs saying it was possible to save both the village and the keep but it would be very hard. I would choose that option if I knew how, but I don't.

Since I'm not sure how, I would send my soldiers to the keep and defend the village myself. I want to bolster the keep and prepare it for the attack, and try to destroy the Red Templars before they get there and completely destroy the village.

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Lead the men to Crestwood. Once the red templars are defeated, speed to the Keep and help defend it. A fortress should hold out longer than a village.

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okay. so in the demo--i'm trying to remember--they sent the soldiers back to the keep, then the inquisitor left, too. right?

so, if we send the soldiers back to the keep and decide to stay and help the village, we should be able to, right?

although, i do want to get to those boats and torch those as well. and if i keep the soliders for the village, how weak would the keep be in the future.

and how many of our soldiers are with us? if that's the case then the keep isn't being manned by enough soldiers...

oh, there are going to be pages upon pages of forum posts dissecting this stuff post game.
squee...and yet i'm scared at the same time...

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Talking about all this is giving me that DAI itch...I REALLY want to play this game. I feel like Gollum without his ring.

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From what I understand, yes, you can send soldiers to the keep while going to the village yourself.

It also seems like you can do about anything else in between as well. Totally gotta play a can't be assed Inquisitor at some point.