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Wow... that's very interesting. I'd be tempted to think "Cullen," but in the past he's seemed really surprised that people even know who Cullen is (this is way way before DAI), let alone like him. So I have my serious doubts that DG has been wanting to write Cullen for years upon years.

But who could it be? What character has existed in the minds of the writers for so long? And this is a character that DG hasn't had the chance to write before (so not Morrigan, Leliana, etc.). Wow. Could be an NPC like Empress Celene or something?

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is he talking about Cassandra or Cole? r who else did he wanted to write about?

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I'm surprised he wanted to write Jowan. I love that mage, he would have been a very interesting character to expand on.

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R2s Muse wrote...

Chiantirose1982 wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So I wrote down all the DA writers past and present who I think have written on DAI. You guys have an idea of who might of written who? Maybe you think someone is being written by someone else or someone is missing?

David Gaider: Cassandra (Confirmed), Cole (Speculation)
Sheryl Chee:
Mary Kirby: Varric Tethras (Confirmed), Vivienne (Confirmed)
Lukas Kristjansen:
Jennifer Hepler:
Sylvia Feketekuty:
Tonia Laird: Cullen (Speculation)
Patrick Weekes: Iron Bull (Speculation)
 
Cassandra
Varric
Vivienne
Iron Bull
Cole
Cullen
Beardy Warden
Elfy McSmuggens
Scribe Woman
The Mustache


Isn't Miss Hepler gone? Or did I miss some news?


Yeah she is gone, but I think she wrote some stuff for DA:I.

Yeah, we know she did some work on DA:I. I just wonder if that means it's general plot type stuff instead of an entire follower since she did leave quite a while ago. Hmm.

For the rest, I think Danny's already summed up everything we know.

I remember someone mentioning in her goodbye post that she'd written a follower, though who knows who it passed to or whether or not it's gonna resemble it's initial design when we finally get to actually she them.

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R2s Muse wrote...

DG is waxing eloquent on Tumblr tonite, answering some fan questions. In one about how the writers choose which characters they'll write, he says something interesting about one of his DA:I characters.

"I think, as we start getting into the concepting for the characters, there’s a social dynamic where a writer seems more keen on someone and the others start to back off without really being obvious about it. By the time I get to divvying up the list, it’s more or less already been settled. One of the characters I’ve written for DAI was like that—it was the sort of story I wanted to write ever since I started with BioWare, and everyone knew that, and thus I didn’t ever need to claim it outright. It was simply acknowledged that I was going to write that person, come hell or high water."


Hmmm....I wonder who asked this question. Certainly someone very manly and handsomePosted Image

@Moto: I think that it's Cole. I dunno why, but my gut says Cole if he is in fact a companion. He just seems to connect so much with Cole and we might get a bit more of that story of loneliness. I kind of want my Inquisitor to be a surrogate father for him, for Cole to try and disappear, but the Inquisitor grabs him by the wrist and pulls him close to tell him that he sees Cole and that he'll never disappear, because deep inside the Inquisitor's soul is a place for him.........er so yeah I think it's Cole.

Or maybe if he means Cassandra it's something to do with trying to get away from one's family?  

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

@Moto: I think that it's Cole. I dunno why, but my gut says Cole if he is in fact a companion. He just seems to connect so much with Cole and we might get a bit more of that story of loneliness. I kind of want my Inquisitor to be a surrogate father for him, for Cole to try and disappear, but the Inquisitor grabs him by the wrist and pulls him close to tell him that he sees Cole and that he'll never disappear, because deep inside the Inquisitor's soul is a place for him.........er so yeah I think it's Cole.

Or maybe if he means Cassandra it's something to do with trying to get away from one's family?  


But do we think Cole has existed in DG's mind since he first started with BW? It's possible.

Cassandra seems more likely; I can see them planning ahead to the extent that they knew this character would exist.

Or perhaps Cole is simply the embodiment of a character idea DG has been cherishing for a long, long time.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

So I wrote down all the DA writers past and present who I think have written on DAI. You guys have an idea of who might of written who? Maybe you think someone is being written by someone else or someone is missing?

David Gaider: Cassandra (Confirmed), Cole (Speculation)
Sheryl Chee:
Mary Kirby: Varric Tethras (Confirmed), Vivienne (Confirmed)
Lukas Kristjansen:
Jennifer Hepler:
Sylvia Feketekuty:
Tonia Laird: Cullen (Speculation)
Patrick Weekes: Iron Bull (Speculation)
 
Cassandra
Varric
Vivienne
Iron Bull
Cole
Cullen
Beardy Warden
Elfy McSmuggens
Scribe Woman
The Mustache


I think I remember Mr. Weekes also mentioning that he's writing a male elf? So it could be possible that he's also writing Chill McSmugson. 

I'm pretty convinced that he's written Iron Bull, at least, considering how he's using him as an icon on Twitter and has been talking about the Qun and Qunari...

Edit: and Lukas Kristjansen is writing the blonde elf (Sera?) Confirmed by Mr. Gaider right here.

Edit x2: and who wrote the character that makes someone want to smack her everytime she opens her mouth? 'Cause that could be something else to speculate on just for funsies. (Especially just for funsies, seeing it might not even be a companion. orz)

Modifié par Dirgegun, 15 décembre 2013 - 10:42 .


#68508
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motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

@Moto: I think that it's Cole. I dunno why, but my gut says Cole if he is in fact a companion. He just seems to connect so much with Cole and we might get a bit more of that story of loneliness. I kind of want my Inquisitor to be a surrogate father for him, for Cole to try and disappear, but the Inquisitor grabs him by the wrist and pulls him close to tell him that he sees Cole and that he'll never disappear, because deep inside the Inquisitor's soul is a place for him.........er so yeah I think it's Cole.

Or maybe if he means Cassandra it's something to do with trying to get away from one's family?  


But do we think Cole has existed in DG's mind since he first started with BW? It's possible.

Cassandra seems more likely; I can see them planning ahead to the extent that they knew this character would exist.

Or perhaps Cole is simply the embodiment of a character idea DG has been cherishing for a long, long time.


I'm not sure it is Cole, actually, looking at the context of the sentence. After all, it sounds like he's been waiting to write that kind of story since the beginning, not the character itself. So it COULD be Cullen, if he is now going in that direction Mr. Gaider has always been interested in (I don't think it's Cullen, personally, but he works as an example here.)

Cole was already Mr. Gaider's character and has his own book, and while he does seem very, very attached to him, I don't think he applies in this context seeing it seems to specifically involve Inquisition. It also seems like the other writers 'let him have' this character as it involves a story he's been wanting to write for so long now. If it was Cole, I imagine they would have 'let him have' him anyway, seeing he created him and wrote an entire book on him and such. So I'm guessing it's either someone we don't know yet or someone who didn't have this particular story direction until this new game.

After all, Mr. Gaider hasn't said he's had this particular character planned since the beginning, just that he wanted to write this kind of story since the beginning, and now that particular story has become relevant and doable in the context of a game. We're lucky it just happens to be Inquisition! I look forward to seeing it, whatever pans out. 

(And I probably worded some of this awkwardly, but hopefully people get what I mean? ^^; )

Modifié par Dirgegun, 15 décembre 2013 - 08:29 .


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David Gaider: Cassandra (Confirmed), Cole (Speculation)
Sheryl Chee:
Mary Kirby: Varric Tethras (Confirmed), Vivienne (Confirmed)
Lukas Kristjansen: Sera (Confirmed/Name Unconfirmed)
Jennifer Hepler:
Sylvia Feketekuty:
Tonia Laird: Cullen (Speculation)
Patrick Weekes: Iron Bull (Speculation), Elfy Mcsmuggens (Speculation)
 
Cassandra
Varric
Vivienne
Sera
Iron Bull
Cole
Cullen
Beardy Warden
Elfy McSmuggens
Scribe Woman
The Mustache

Nice Dirgegun, I remember I had forgotten someone.

To me Cole is still particularly unwritten, though it could be a new character all together. I'm curious what Ms. Feketekuty could be writing and whether or not she'll have a companion at all since we seem to be running out of companions.

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I think Hepler started writing on Cullen, but he might have gone to someone else in the end.

Maybe the moustache guy and the one with a beard are the same one? They just have to work out the design of the character? 

'Scribe woman', could be like Samantha Traynor. She might be administrating your financial stuff and troups and all that. She doesn't seem the battle-type-lady.

Modifié par TinuHawke, 15 décembre 2013 - 11:02 .


#68511
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TinuHawke wrote...

I think Hepler started writing on Cullen, but he might have gone to someone else in the end.

Maybe the moustache guy and the one with a beard are the same one? They just have to work out the design of the character? 

'Scribe woman', could be like Samantha Traynor. She might be administrating your financial stuff and troups and all that. She doesn't seem the battle-type-lady.

Yeah that's what I've been thinking. She might be the character who most aims to get the Inquisition's commerce up while we have two others who focus on military and espionage. I'm thinking new character for military and Leliana for espionage.

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motomotogirl wrote...

Wow... that's very interesting. I'd be tempted to think "Cullen," but in the past he's seemed really surprised that people even know who Cullen is (this is way way before DAI), let alone like him. So I have my serious doubts that DG has been wanting to write Cullen for years upon years.

But who could it be? What character has existed in the minds of the writers for so long? And this is a character that DG hasn't had the chance to write before (so not Morrigan, Leliana, etc.). Wow. Could be an NPC like Empress Celene or something?


But he says it's the story he wanted to write rather than the character. It could still be Cullen, perhaps he's becoming somewhat mentally unstable due to his lyrium addiction or something? Maybe that's more the story he's never had the chance to write?

Oh and Tinu, it was specifically confirmed that Scribe Girl is not a companion.

#68513
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Dirgegun wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

@Moto: I think that it's Cole. I dunno why, but my gut says Cole if he is in fact a companion. He just seems to connect so much with Cole and we might get a bit more of that story of loneliness. I kind of want my Inquisitor to be a surrogate father for him, for Cole to try and disappear, but the Inquisitor grabs him by the wrist and pulls him close to tell him that he sees Cole and that he'll never disappear, because deep inside the Inquisitor's soul is a place for him.........er so yeah I think it's Cole.

Or maybe if he means Cassandra it's something to do with trying to get away from one's family?  


But do we think Cole has existed in DG's mind since he first started with BW? It's possible.

Cassandra seems more likely; I can see them planning ahead to the extent that they knew this character would exist.

Or perhaps Cole is simply the embodiment of a character idea DG has been cherishing for a long, long time.


I'm not sure it is Cole, actually, looking at the context of the sentence. After all, it sounds like he's been waiting to write that kind of story since the beginning, not the character itself. So it COULD be Cullen, if he is now going in that direction Mr. Gaider has always been interested in (I don't think it's Cullen, personally, but he works as an example here.)

Cole was already Mr. Gaider's character and has his own book, and while he does seem very, very attached to him, I don't think he applies in this context seeing it seems to specifically involve Inquisition. It also seems like the other writers 'let him have' this character as it involves a story he's been wanting to write for so long now. If it was Cole, I imagine they would have 'let him have' him anyway, seeing he created him and wrote an entire book on him and such. So I'm guessing it's either someone we don't know yet or someone who didn't have this particular story direction until this new game.

After all, Mr. Gaider hasn't said he's had this particular character planned since the beginning, just that he wanted to write this kind of story since the beginning, and now that particular story has become relevant and doable in the context of a game. We're lucky it just happens to be Inquisition! I look forward to seeing it, whatever pans out. 

(And I probably worded some of this awkwardly, but hopefully people get what I mean? ^^; )

I agree with this interpretation. It doesn't sound to me that it's a particular person, but a particular story. Like "hero has been betrayed by both sides of the Big Damn Conflict so leaves his duty to become a wandering minstrel until circumstances draw him back into the fight." Ahem. :P  Just sayin'.

Whatever the story arc is, I doubt we'll be able to guess it.

What does make me wonder is whether it's follower #1, or his more recently added follower #2. On one hand, you'd think that this 'story of a lifetime' opportunity would be the first follower he's written since it would be a no brainer. On the other hand, he's writing Cassandra whom we've known about for a while (although not as early as he did). Hmm. Could Cassandra's story be the one?

#68514
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TinuHawke wrote...

I think Hepler started writing on Cullen, but he might have gone to someone else in the end.

All we know is that Hepler knows Cullen's continuing story, but she said she was on maternity leave and therefore not privy to any future plans about his character. So there's no evidence that she was actually writing him after her stint in DA2.

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Dirgegun wrote...

I think I remember Mr. Weekes also mentioning that he's writing a male elf? So it could be possible that he's also writing Chill McSmugson. 

I'm pretty convinced that he's written Iron Bull, at least, considering how he's using him as an icon on Twitter and has been talking about the Qun and Qunari...

Edit: and Lukas Kristjansen is writing the blonde elf (Sera?) Confirmed by Mr. Gaider right here.

Edit x2: and who wrote the character that makes someone want to smack her everytime she opens her mouth? 'Cause that could be something else to speculate on just for funsies. (Especially just for funsies, seeing it might not even be a companion. orz)

Ah, good memory, Dirgegun!

I think with the male elf... I vaguely remember us speculating about that when looking at the nosferatu-like elf dude in the "new home" art. Hmm. I look around.

The smack her comment I always thought was about Sera, but I don't think there were many details, eh?

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R2s Muse wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

I think I remember Mr. Weekes also mentioning that he's writing a male elf? So it could be possible that he's also writing Chill McSmugson. 

I'm pretty convinced that he's written Iron Bull, at least, considering how he's using him as an icon on Twitter and has been talking about the Qun and Qunari...

Edit: and Lukas Kristjansen is writing the blonde elf (Sera?) Confirmed by Mr. Gaider right here.

Edit x2: and who wrote the character that makes someone want to smack her everytime she opens her mouth? 'Cause that could be something else to speculate on just for funsies. (Especially just for funsies, seeing it might not even be a companion. orz)

Ah, good memory, Dirgegun!

I think with the male elf... I vaguely remember us speculating about that when looking at the nosferatu-like elf dude in the "new home" art. Hmm. I look around.

The smack her comment I always thought was about Sera, but I don't think there were many details, eh?


I'm pretty sure the smack-her-comment character at least had a writer attached to her that was specifically mentioned. I want to say it was Sheryl Chee, but I'm not sure. 

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Dirgegun wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

I think I remember Mr. Weekes also mentioning that he's writing a male elf? So it could be possible that he's also writing Chill McSmugson. 

I'm pretty convinced that he's written Iron Bull, at least, considering how he's using him as an icon on Twitter and has been talking about the Qun and Qunari...

Edit: and Lukas Kristjansen is writing the blonde elf (Sera?) Confirmed by Mr. Gaider right here.

Edit x2: and who wrote the character that makes someone want to smack her everytime she opens her mouth? 'Cause that could be something else to speculate on just for funsies. (Especially just for funsies, seeing it might not even be a companion. orz)

Ah, good memory, Dirgegun!

I think with the male elf... I vaguely remember us speculating about that when looking at the nosferatu-like elf dude in the "new home" art. Hmm. I look around.

The smack her comment I always thought was about Sera, but I don't think there were many details, eh?


I'm pretty sure the smack-her-comment character at least had a writer attached to her that was specifically mentioned. I want to say it was Sheryl Chee, but I'm not sure. 

Argh, the only thing I can find on PWeekes writing an elf is my paraphrase of it, but it's in the twitter thread somewhere.

http://social.biowar...1/2668#17523048

(edit: BAH! and I officially give up on find this. )

Modifié par R2s Muse, 15 décembre 2013 - 01:53 .


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I reckon he's talking about Cole. I just get the feeling that he identifies with him a lot more than what he could show in just the Asunder novel.

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Dirgegun wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

I think I remember Mr. Weekes also mentioning that he's writing a male elf? So it could be possible that he's also writing Chill McSmugson. 

I'm pretty convinced that he's written Iron Bull, at least, considering how he's using him as an icon on Twitter and has been talking about the Qun and Qunari...

Edit: and Lukas Kristjansen is writing the blonde elf (Sera?) Confirmed by Mr. Gaider right here.

Edit x2: and who wrote the character that makes someone want to smack her everytime she opens her mouth? 'Cause that could be something else to speculate on just for funsies. (Especially just for funsies, seeing it might not even be a companion. orz)

Ah, good memory, Dirgegun!

I think with the male elf... I vaguely remember us speculating about that when looking at the nosferatu-like elf dude in the "new home" art. Hmm. I look around.

The smack her comment I always thought was about Sera, but I don't think there were many details, eh?


I'm pretty sure the smack-her-comment character at least had a writer attached to her that was specifically mentioned. I want to say it was Sheryl Chee, but I'm not sure. 

Aha!! 

Mary Kirby again, although she confirms that the char you want to slap isn't a follower.

http://social.biowar...6310/2#17131589

Mary Kirby writes...

Mary Kirby:
When @NoodlyDoom stops by just to tell me how much he
hates one of my characters, it makes my day. #WritersPit
#EmotionalHooligan


Frank Gordon @NoodlyDoom
@axl99 @BioMaryKirby All I want is an interrupt to slap that character. Every time she speaks.


This exchange has nothing to do with Vivienne. Whom I wrote. You guys know that I write all sorts of characters who aren't followers, right? The game is positively full of them.



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R2s Muse wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Dirgegun wrote...

I think I remember Mr. Weekes also mentioning that he's writing a male elf? So it could be possible that he's also writing Chill McSmugson. 

I'm pretty convinced that he's written Iron Bull, at least, considering how he's using him as an icon on Twitter and has been talking about the Qun and Qunari...

Edit: and Lukas Kristjansen is writing the blonde elf (Sera?) Confirmed by Mr. Gaider right here.

Edit x2: and who wrote the character that makes someone want to smack her everytime she opens her mouth? 'Cause that could be something else to speculate on just for funsies. (Especially just for funsies, seeing it might not even be a companion. orz)

Ah, good memory, Dirgegun!

I think with the male elf... I vaguely remember us speculating about that when looking at the nosferatu-like elf dude in the "new home" art. Hmm. I look around.

The smack her comment I always thought was about Sera, but I don't think there were many details, eh?


I'm pretty sure the smack-her-comment character at least had a writer attached to her that was specifically mentioned. I want to say it was Sheryl Chee, but I'm not sure. 

Aha!! 

Mary Kirby again, although she confirms that the char you want to slap isn't a follower.

http://social.biowar...6310/2#17131589

Mary Kirby writes...

Mary Kirby:
When @NoodlyDoom stops by just to tell me how much he
hates one of my characters, it makes my day. #WritersPit
#EmotionalHooligan


Frank Gordon @NoodlyDoom
@axl99 @BioMaryKirby All I want is an interrupt to slap that character. Every time she speaks.


This exchange has nothing to do with Vivienne. Whom I wrote. You guys know that I write all sorts of characters who aren't followers, right? The game is positively full of them.


Ah! Mary Kirby does write some swanky characters. I can't wait to meet whoever this character is! :lol:

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I wonder if it's Empress Celene? I feel like she'd be a bit of a ****.

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I wonder if it's Empress Celene? I feel like she'd be a bit of a ****.

I can't wait to  meet Celene, either in Patrick's novel or hopefully in the game. I'm very curious about her. If she's the protagonist of the novel, tho, I can't imagine her being someone you want to slap everytime she speaks. That would make for a painful read, TBH. LOL

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R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I wonder if it's Empress Celene? I feel like she'd be a bit of a ****.

I can't wait to  meet Celene, either in Patrick's novel or hopefully in the game. I'm very curious about her. If she's the protagonist of the novel, tho, I can't imagine her being someone you want to slap everytime she speaks. That would make for a painful read, TBH. LOL


I'm thinking it's going to jump from perspective to perspective (between Celene, Gaspard and Briala), but focus more on Briala since she seems to have the biggest bridge between all the characters.

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*drops in after being away for a few days* Hi all!

Oh, how was your RPG Lola? Too bad I missed it

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Mahumia wrote...

*drops in after being away for a few days* Hi all!

Oh, how was your RPG Lola? Too bad I missed it


It went pretty well, we didn't die or anything! :lol: