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[LolaLei]

Elfman wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Oh wow downloading TWD season 2 now! I'm getting excitement shivers!

Oh my gawd, it's amazing! I just finished it!

Same! It was brilliant! So what do you think happened with (spoilers) from the very beginning? Because it was a pretty big time jump with no mention.

Gotta ask, right at the beginning did *spoiler* die for you by that stupid **** shooting him in the chest? I ****ing screamed the place down when that happened! 

[Potato Cat]

LolaLei wrote...

Elfman wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Elfman wrote...
Oh wow downloading TWD season 2 now! I'm getting excitement shivers!

Oh my gawd, it's amazing! I just finished it!

Same! It was brilliant! So what do you think happened with (spoilers) from the very beginning? Because it was a pretty big time jump with no mention.

Gotta ask, right at the beginning did *spoiler* die for you by that stupid **** shooting him in the chest? I ****ing screamed the place down when that happened! 

Yeah I did the same thing. I'm pretty sure you can't alter that unfortunately. But you know she was...in a certain way and then after the time jump, she obviously wasn't, but there was no mention. I think we might get more information in Episode 3 if you look at the episode title card there's a hint as to what will happen there. Argh, I hate not wanting to spoil it for everyone!

[CuriousArtemis]

rapscallioness wrote...

But really--how/what were ppl that they will be just like they were?

Personally, I believe this means everyone will have magic (or be able to "touch the Fade," the way mages do). I remember Merrill once saying that all elves knew a bit of magic once, but that time is gone. Why? Why are only some elves born with magic instead of all? And what does it mean to "have" magic? You don't "have" it, not really. You are just able to access another source of power. Why can some access that power and others can't? I think that will be addressed in DA:I.

LolaLei wrote...

... Oh god... is that a beam I see up there? 

Nope, my protagonist will NOT be going anywhere near it. The last time one of my protagonists went into a beam she ended up talking to some ****ty little star kid and then sacrificed herself for the sake of the galaxy. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

Okay... this made me laugh LOL  I didn't even think of that beam. Yeah, but what a crazy moment in the game. I know you hated it, but it just gets me in the feels every time.

I wish people would stop calling it a star kid/child though; it merely manifested itself in that form so that it could communicate to Shepard. It's classic sci-fi; it's an alien life form without corporeal form, and it does not know how to communicate with us in a way we can understand. Always reminded me of a CJ Cherryh short story. The alien(s) took the form of the humans (mimicked their bodies) in order to communicate, but the humans found this disconcerting because they were essentially talking to copies of themselves.

Sorry, sci-fi geek here *escorts self from Cullen thread* 

[LolaLei]

Elfman wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Elfman wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Elfman wrote...
Oh wow downloading TWD season 2 now! I'm getting excitement shivers!

Oh my gawd, it's amazing! I just finished it!

Same! It was brilliant! So what do you think happened with (spoilers) from the very beginning? Because it was a pretty big time jump with no mention.

Gotta ask, right at the beginning did *spoiler* die for you by that stupid **** shooting him in the chest? I ****ing screamed the place down when that happened! 

Yeah I did the same thing. I'm pretty sure you can't alter that unfortunately. But you know she was...in a certain way and then after the time jump, she obviously wasn't, but there was no mention. I think we might get more information in Episode 3 if you look at the episode title card there's a hint as to what will happen there. Argh, I hate not wanting to spoil it for everyone!

I reckon she ended up losing it due to stress or something... or a zombie ate it. I was kinda glad to get away from her tbh, after *spoiler* died she seemed colder and kinda horrible.

You know right at the end there was that "next time on the walking dead" montage, who do you reckon has returned when Clem said "I thought you were dead!" Could be Lilly? Or maybe Christa?

[rapscallioness]

LolaLei wrote...

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... Oh god... is that a beam I see up there?

Nope, my protagonist will NOT be going anywhere near it. The last time one of my protagonists went into a beam she ended up talking to some ****ty little star kid and then sacrificed herself for the sake of the galaxy. 

But seriously though, it looks like the Fade has full on bled itself into the "real world" in this picture. Worrying... and epic!

:lol: i know right? i did have a bit of a shiver.

@elfman: i have no problem w/ a prophecy coming from a savant dwarf. sometimes the best prophets are the ones not cluttered by ego and ulterior motives.

But what is Eleni's prophecy? If you could post the gist of it, at least, I would love to see it. (i could google i imagine, but...)

[Potato Cat]

LolaLei wrote...
I reckon she ended up losing it due to stress or something... or a zombie ate it. I was kinda glad to get away from her tbh, after *spoiler* died she seemed colder and kinda horrible.

You know right at the end there was that "next time on the walking dead" montage, who do you reckon has returned when Clem said "I thought you were dead!" Could be Lilly? Or maybe Christa?

Meanie, she's been through so much bless her. 

I forgot about Lilly. I loved her. Actually hope it is her now actually. But I think I know who it is. I remember a long time ago when they first announced it-ish, they said the 'fate of Kenny will be explored' or something.

But then again, she had to have thought he was dead. I guess she could have been told that off screen.

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

But really--how/what were ppl that they will be just like they were?

Personally, I believe this means everyone will have magic (or be able to "touch the Fade," the way mages do). I remember Merrill once saying that all elves knew a bit of magic once, but that time is gone. Why? Why are only some elves born with magic instead of all? And what does it mean to "have" magic? You don't "have" it, not really. You are just able to access another source of power. Why can some access that power and others can't? I think that will be addressed in DA:I.

I've been giving Sandal's prophecy some thought. I've been wondering if maybe, when he says: "One day the magic will come back. All of it." is an obscure reference to the mages being out of the circles, thus coming back into society (whether the people of Thedas like it or not, even if it is only temporary). And the part where he says: "Everyone will be just like they were" is possibly in reference to Thedas' current state being reminiscent of a time when the first Inquisition were around etc.

[LolaLei]

Elfman wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
I reckon she ended up losing it due to stress or something... or a zombie ate it. I was kinda glad to get away from her tbh, after *spoiler* died she seemed colder and kinda horrible.

You know right at the end there was that "next time on the walking dead" montage, who do you reckon has returned when Clem said "I thought you were dead!" Could be Lilly? Or maybe Christa?

Meanie, she's been through so much bless her. 

I forgot about Lilly. I loved her. Actually hope it is her now actually. But I think I know who it is. I remember a long time ago when they first announced it-ish, they said the 'fate of Kenny will be explored' or something.

But then again, she had to have thought he was dead. I guess she could have been told that off screen.

I'd love for Kenny to come back, he was one of my favourites... I just don't know how he would've escaped that though, he had zombies coming at him from both sides, if he'd escaped then surely he would've tried to catch up with Lee and the others? Unless he managed to escape into the sewers or something?

I think Christa would've been bad for Clem to stay around, she'd become too hardened after all that. I miss Lee though, I made sure Clem didn't burn his picture, or the drawing of Kenny and his family.

[LolaLei]

rapscallioness wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

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... Oh god... is that a beam I see up there?

Nope, my protagonist will NOT be going anywhere near it. The last time one of my protagonists went into a beam she ended up talking to some ****ty little star kid and then sacrificed herself for the sake of the galaxy. 

But seriously though, it looks like the Fade has full on bled itself into the "real world" in this picture. Worrying... and epic!

:lol: i know right? i did have a bit of a shiver.

@elfman: i have no problem w/ a prophecy coming from a savant dwarf. sometimes the best prophets are the ones not cluttered by ego and ulterior motives.

But what is Eleni's prophecy? If you could post the gist of it, at least, I would love to see it. (i could google i imagine, but...)

What was Eleni's prophecy again? Does anyone have the full thing? I tried to find it in-game, but I didn't have any luck.

[Potato Cat]

rapscallioness wrote...
@elfman: i have no problem w/ a prophecy coming from a savant dwarf. sometimes the best prophets are the ones not cluttered by ego and ulterior motives.

But what is Eleni's prophecy? If you could post the gist of it, at least, I would love to see it. (i could google i imagine, but...)

I find the wiki and google are uncharacteristically horrible for this. I usually just go on Youtube and try and watch a let's play of Witch Hunt or something for it. I can never remember her exact words but she says something implying she won't be a statue any more after this big event iirc.

By the way, I'm fine with Sandal, I'm just sort of sick of how people seem to think his prophecy is the be all and end all. Not having a go at you, I've just seen a lot of people be a lot worse on this. It just really gets on my ****** how a proven, accurate seer like Eleni Zinovia gets ignored in favour of a dwarf who in my opinion is mostly just a comedy character. 

[rapscallioness]

well, this is what I found. I snagged it from a convo on the wikia by "TraumaKitty". Along w/some other interesting stuff. I never played Witch Hunt...


"The reason I asked about this was because there was something in Witch Hunt about the Fade being a cage- and that something was breaking free of it. I don’t remember the details. Could this be the "He" Sandal mentions? We already know that there are very powerful entities in the Fade like Gaxking and Xebenkeck-and the rest of the forbidden ones. This is just a theory, but it lends to a creditability of a previous post of the forums about something breaking out of the Fade and attacking Thedas.

There is also this from the game: "The first of the magus cast themselves deep in the Fade in search of answers and power, always power. They found the forbidden ones- Xebenkeck, Imshael, Gaxkang the Unbound, and The Formless One. Many conversations were had and much of the fabric of the world revealed. And thus the magic of blood was born." ―Unknown Mage" WTF? I thought that the Old Gods thought the magisters blood magic, not some super uber demons. is "He" one of these guys?

Another prophetic quote, from Eleni Zinovia (the statue in the Ferelden mage tower): "The prison is breached. I see the encroaching darkness. The... the shadow will consume all..." No foreshadowing there, with her and Sandal talking about The Shadow."

[rapscallioness]

Hey @elfman: No, I think the combo of Sandal's prophecy and Eleni's makes sum interesting stuff. You also have to remember running into Eleni was a specific background and dlc event. Whereas Sandal was experienced by all players in Da2.

But I remeber now the Eleni one in DAO: Something abt her being free when the Maker returns and ...lights their fires again....

[LolaLei]

Elfman wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...
@elfman: i have no problem w/ a prophecy coming from a savant dwarf. sometimes the best prophets are the ones not cluttered by ego and ulterior motives.

But what is Eleni's prophecy? If you could post the gist of it, at least, I would love to see it. (i could google i imagine, but...)

I find the wiki and google are uncharacteristically horrible for this. I usually just go on Youtube and try and watch a let's play of Witch Hunt or something for it. I can never remember her exact words but she says something implying she won't be a statue any more after this big event iirc.

By the way, I'm fine with Sandal, I'm just sort of sick of how people seem to think his prophecy is the be all and end all. Not having a go at you, I've just seen a lot of people be a lot worse on this. It just really gets on my ****** how a proven, accurate seer like Eleni Zinovia gets ignored in favour of a dwarf who in my opinion is mostly just a comedy character. 

She said something about the darkness being breached or something, didn't she? I think her prophecy was very similar to Sandal's really. I mean, we know DAI's concept had been planned since DA:O and DG did say that Sandal's prophecy, despite being an Easter Egg was a hint and where the Dragon Age story is heading... I just didn't think (at the time) that his prediction would be about events in DAI.

Modifié par LolaLei, 17 décembre 2013 - 08:54 .

[Potato Cat]

rapscallioness wrote...

Hey @elfman: No, I think the combo of Sandal's prophecy and Eleni's makes sum interesting stuff. You also have to remember running into Eleni was a specific background and dlc event. Whereas Sandal was experienced by all players in Da2.

But I remeber now the Eleni one in DAO: Something abt her being free when the Maker returns and ...lights their fires again....

Yes! I just forget about that because then I get Relight My Fire stuck in my head for the next five hours. And I only know the chorus.

[rapscallioness]

oh, btw: I didn't think you were having a go at me. But I believe what I said---that good prophecy or prophetic talent can be clouded by ego.

And I'm protective of Sandal. Lol! But no worries, Love!

[LolaLei]

rapscallioness wrote...

"There is also this from the game: "The first of the magus cast themselves deep in the Fade in search of answers and power, always power. They found the forbidden ones- Xebenkeck, Imshael, Gaxkang the Unbound, and The Formless One. Many conversations were had and much of the fabric of the world revealed. And thus the magic of blood was born." ―Unknown Mage" WTF? I thought that the Old Gods thought the magisters blood magic, not some super uber demons. is "He" one of these guys?

I guess maybe they were taught blood magic by those... whatever they are.

[rapscallioness]

Elfman wrote...

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Yes! I just forget about that because then I get Relight My Fire stuck in my head for the next five hours. And I only know the chorus.

Lmao! I know. It took everything I could to resist writing sumthing abt that.

[rapscallioness]

LolaLei wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

"There is also this from the game: "The first of the magus cast themselves deep in the Fade in search of answers and power, always power. They found the forbidden ones- Xebenkeck, Imshael, Gaxkang the Unbound, and The Formless One. Many conversations were had and much of the fabric of the world revealed. And thus the magic of blood was born." ―Unknown Mage" WTF? I thought that the Old Gods thought the magisters blood magic, not some super uber demons. is "He" one of these guys?

I guess maybe they were taught blood magic by those... whatever they are.

I've never heard of these guys before. The Forbidden ones? Even their names are scary sounding.

[rapscallioness]

What's interesting tho is that the Fade is a prison. And something is breaking free. With our help ofc. murder and mayhem and what not.

[LolaLei]

I dunno why, but whenever they talk about the encroaching darkness and shadows consuming things all I can think about is The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess where most of Hyrule was covered in darkness that had leaked through from the Twilight realm.

[Potato Cat]

rapscallioness wrote...

What's interesting tho is that the Fade is a prison. And something is breaking free. With our help ofc. murder and mayhem and what not.

I don't know what's worse to be honest, Take That or High School Musical!

Anyway, from a demon's perspective, surely the Fade is a prison. They're always just outside looking at the yummy yummy mortals.

[Ilidan_DA]

sebastianhanlon ‏@hanlsp

"You're in a desert, walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down and see a Christmas build."

sebastianhanlon ‏@hanlsp

"Describe in single words all the good things that come to mind about the Christmas build." "... LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS BUILD"

[Mahumia]

Those prophecies give me the idea that, with the tearing of the veil, the border between the fade and 'real' world will disappear, like how it was on the old days. Seeing how the elves speak about 'we all used to have magic', that is how I expect it to be: instead of only a few people, everyone will get some sort of link to magic. Perhaps not able to weild it, but... something.
Somehow I think that the 'he' has something to do with the bigass dragon that appears in the vid. Some old god perhaps? Or the Maker himself?

[LolaLei]

Look at that picture again (in big) I noticed something:



If you blow the picture up big, you can see that it's one of those "magic" doors that were in the Fade, the ones that led you to different areas. So, either this is the Fade and that bridge is just something the Fade conjured up, OR as the Fade leaks into the "real world" it's creating weird objects 'n' stuff, just like it does normally.

Modifié par LolaLei, 17 décembre 2013 - 09:08 .

[LolaLei]

Mahumia wrote...

Those prophecies give me the idea that, with the tearing of the veil, the border between the fade and 'real' world will disappear, like how it was on the old days. Seeing how the elves speak about 'we all used to have magic', that is how I expect it to be: instead of only a few people, everyone will get some sort of link to magic. Perhaps not able to weild it, but... something.
Somehow I think that the 'he' has something to do with the bigass dragon that appears in the vid. Some old god perhaps? Or the Maker himself?

LOL, Cullen will **** his pants if he wakes up one day with the ability to shoot lightning at fools.