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ag99 wrote...

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Fortunately this is just the first wave of invites, so they'll be sending out plenty more in the coming weeks/months. I just hope they'll let me make a video about it because I don't like not being able to share this sort of thing.


I dont think they will allow you guys to make videos considering you had to sign an NDA agreement, but  personally it doesnt really bother me, I can wait, its not like its a CC demor or anything its just a thing where u manage you saves


Depends if they give us an embargo or not, like they did with the DAI demo. They said we'd recieve another email in early 2014 so I guess I'll get all the rules and regulations then.

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I think the devs try to avoid the fanfic and a lot of the fanart. Because, y'know, a lot of it's porn.

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thats1evildude wrote...

I think the devs try to avoid the fanfic and a lot of the fanart. Because, y'know, a lot of it's porn.


LOL, yeah the dodgy stuff ruins it for the legit fanart/fanfic.

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Elfman wrote...

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they will release to pretty much everyone I'm sure because, they might want to "stress-test" the network and such, which involves getting as many people as they possibly can to join in at once. they need to consistently keep ramping up the number of users - it also helps with their feedback and metrics if they get a range of player types


I just think it's weird for them to need a beta. Unless they are literally trying to make sure every single combination of choices works properly or to see if they've missed something...


I think it sort of needs to be a beta, because they still need to balace out how things work  and what choices everyone made in the previous games so it kinda makes sense to test it out 1st  and see if it works properly  like if there are any bugs  or crasher or anything crazy like that, so untill the release date they can make sure it will work well for everyone to "upload" their choices

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LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...


Fortunately this is just the first wave of invites, so they'll be sending out plenty more in the coming weeks/months. I just hope they'll let me make a video about it because I don't like not being able to share this sort of thing.


I dont think they will allow you guys to make videos considering you had to sign an NDA agreement, but  personally it doesnt really bother me, I can wait, its not like its a CC demor or anything its just a thing where u manage you saves


Depends if they give us an embargo or not, like they did with the DAI demo. They said we'd recieve another email in early 2014 so I guess I'll get all the rules and regulations then.


Well if they will allow you to make a video about it, it would still be great for the rest of us who didnt get it yet, so whatever happens happens ;)

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LolaLei wrote...

ag99 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...


Fortunately this is just the first wave of invites, so they'll be sending out plenty more in the coming weeks/months. I just hope they'll let me make a video about it because I don't like not being able to share this sort of thing.


I dont think they will allow you guys to make videos considering you had to sign an NDA agreement, but  personally it doesnt really bother me, I can wait, its not like its a CC demor or anything its just a thing where u manage you saves


Depends if they give us an embargo or not, like they did with the DAI demo. They said we'd recieve another email in early 2014 so I guess I'll get all the rules and regulations then.

They'll probably let you post videos either once they have posted one of their own or when they announce an open beta.

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[quote]littlenikki wrote...

Calling it favoritism is a bit unfair. The cosplayers and YT people work really hard in their free time to pay tribute to a video game that inspires them. It makes sense, and is actually pretty cool, that the developers would recognize and reward them in a sense by shifting through all those applications to find them. I disagree that it's favoritism, or a way for them to market DAI. It seems to me that it's just Bioware being gracious to their passionate fanbase, and rewarding the ones that have made that extra effort to show their love of the game in other more recognizable outlets.[/quote]

That's definitely one way of looking at it.

[quote]ag99 wrote...

Well to us it may seem unfair, because we didnt get it,lol[/quote]

Precisely :lol:

[quote]berelinde wrote...

[/quote]How about those who devote countless hours writing fanfic or doing fanart? If you are going to say this is based on merit, dont they deserve the same? But they will not get it.[/quote]

Agree. Or how about the fans who don't have the creativity, means, or money to do any of that? Yet they are still intensely devoted fans. 

[quote]LolaLei wrote...

I think Aimo got one, she does fanart. I'm not entirely sure who else got one though. [/quote]

She is another dev favorite though. (DG adores her ... they even worked together ... right?)

So, in short...

1. I'm not used to losing; don't ever play boardgames with me. Friendships have been ruined.

2. Again, bitter, party of one :lol:

3. Still, in the words of Mr. George Knightley, badly done, BioWare. Badly done.

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Let me amend my earlier statement: I think the devs avoid a lot of fanfic because it is badly-written, porn or badly-written porn.

Now if u excuse me, I haf 2 go writ another chaptr of Sex Ninjas of ThedASS

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Man, I wouldn't be so annoyed if they weren't asking you guys to sign an NDA. That's like... I mean, I don't know how much more I can take of people knowing secrets I don't know lol

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Oh... I don't want anyone to feel bad for getting an early invite though :( This is just bitterness. I just feel stupid now for rushing home during lunch time and having to skip lunch that day just so I could waste my time signing up for the beta.

Cleary I'm not a passionate fan =]

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Man, I wouldn't be so annoyed if they weren't asking you guys to sign an NDA. That's like... I mean, I don't know how much more I can take of people knowing secrets I don't know lol


Does seem a little odd for a save creator, I mean surely it would only show/list things that are already known from the previous two games.

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@Lola: You could set up the camera so all we see is you squeeing about all the cool stuff you're seeing! :-D

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My theory is that if the beta turns out to be a buggy mess, they don't want testers running back here and crying DOOOOOOOOOOM

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BevH wrote...

@Lola: You could set up the camera so all we see is you squeeing about all the cool stuff you're seeing! :-D


Lol, I wish! They want me to sign another NDA, if I break that then they can sue the arse off me. =]

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thats1evildude wrote...

My theory is that if the beta turns out to be a buggy mess, they don't want testers running back here and crying DOOOOOOOOOOM


LOL! You might be onto something there!

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motomotogirl wrote...

Oh... I don't want anyone to feel bad for getting an early invite though :( This is just bitterness. I just feel stupid now for rushing home during lunch time and having to skip lunch that day just so I could waste my time signing up for the beta.

Cleary I'm not a passionate fan =]


Oh mmg dont feel bad for rushing, as i said just because we didnt get an invite that doesnt make us lesser fans by any means, its just the way things are , and we just have to wait a lil bit longer to get one, you ALL guys here are WAYYY more passionate fans then I am  heck I barely joined the forums:P

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Well I hope that it's all in ship shape and AWESOME! :D

and that cullen is in there

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LolaLei wrote...

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Man, I wouldn't be so annoyed if they weren't asking you guys to sign an NDA. That's like... I mean, I don't know how much more I can take of people knowing secrets I don't know lol


Does seem a little odd for a save creator, I mean surely it would only show/list things that are already known from the previous two games.


Yeah but maybe just knowing what decisions matter and what don't would be enough to enrage some zealots. Imagine the DR not being part of the Keep LOLOL!!!!

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Ericander77 wrote...

Well I hope that it's all in ship shape and AWESOME! :D

and that cullen is in there


Note to Lola: If Cullen is in the Keep... screw the NDA :lol::P We will help you with the lawyer fees :innocent:

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But they said that the Keep will include choices that made not have any baring in DAI just for future reference. Ah, I dunno it makes no sense to me.

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motomotogirl wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

Well I hope that it's all in ship shape and AWESOME! :D

and that cullen is in there


Note to Lola: If Cullen is in the Keep... screw the NDA :lol::P We will help you with the lawyer fees :innocent:


LMAO I TOTTALLY SECOND THIS!!!!!:o:O:O:O

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motomotogirl wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

Well I hope that it's all in ship shape and AWESOME! :D

and that cullen is in there


Note to Lola: If Cullen is in the Keep... screw the NDA :lol::P We will help you with the lawyer fees :innocent:


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#69173
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LolaLei wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

My theory is that if the beta turns out to be a buggy mess, they don't want testers running back here and crying DOOOOOOOOOOM


LOL! You might be onto something there!

Yeah, given the erm passion of the BW fans, I wouldn't be surprised that that's exactly their reason for an initially small roll out. Folks were PISSED about their import flags not working. I bet if the Keep doesn't work properly, heads will roll.

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Darn, didn't get one.

I'm really good at keeping secrets all secrety too. B)

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thats1evildude wrote...

Let me amend my earlier statement: I think the devs avoid a lot of fanfic because it is badly-written, porn or badly-written porn.

Now if u excuse me, I haf 2 go writ another chaptr of Sex Ninjas of ThedASS

Sorry for singling you out thats1evildude, but this pretty much sums up what's wrong with the situation.

Forgive me for posting something vague earlier and disappearing, but I was on my phone in the hospital waiting room while my fiance was getting eye surgery, so I deliberately kept it short and to the point.

I get it that the writers avoid fanfic involving canon characters because portrayal of those characters differs from their vision. Not all developers are writers. Also, it seems as if they never pass up an opportunity to deride fanfic writers to the extent that it has become not only accepted, but expected. They make a joke of it, and so do we.

Some fanfic is bad. Some art is bad. Some cosplay is bad. It's true, although not universally so. But artists and cosplayers are encouraged and lauded for their effort not because every chibi Fenris cartoon is a masterpiece, but because they're celebrating something they love through their art. So are writers, incidentally, it's just that people are conditioned to make jokes about fanfic. They're a neglected portion of the fan base who are engaging in something they love according to their talents. It's unfortunate that anyone should feel marginalized or excluded for this, but we are.

This would have been the perfect opportunity to show fanfic writers that they are a valued part of the community even if no dev will ever read what they write, but that isn't how it worked out. The groups that traditionally get the rewards got some more. I don't begrudge them that! It's their party and they get to invite who they want. But I do wonder why they bothered putting out a general call for beta testers.

Please understand that I am not in any way criticizing the efforts of cosplayers, artists, and video bloggers! I admire their work, and it is nice to see that good things are coming their way for it. It just pains me to see how one group - potentially the largest "fanworks" category - is excluded once again.

For what it's worth, I'm not exerting myself on my own behalf. I'm nowhere near prolific enough for anybody to even know my name, let alone care about my involvement in the community. And I have a habit of saying things that people don't really want to hear. But there are writers who put everything they have into their writing on a consistent basis, and I appreciate the time, effort, and love these writers put into their art.