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But it's suppose to be available for XBOX 360 as well. I'm keeping my fingies crossed that the graphics and such will be just as nice

I would not count on that. There's a huge difference between the console generations and what they can perform. The games I have seen so far that are cross generation have all chosen to go with 'lesser' graphics on last gen and max new gen. Another way would be to cut other type of content and I don't think BW will go that way, but can't say for sure. The new consoles almost match PC performance so it makes more sense to max out 3 platforms and let the old run the game by taking the easy way by not running max graphics. I also believe that in one of the last interviews with Cameron Lee he said something that hinted this could be the case. 

Edit: Did not find the qoute I was thinking of but found this: 
http://www.vg247.com...t-gen-editions/ 

Anyway. I still think the game will be super awesome whatever you will play it on. The engine is new and awesome. B)


On that note, my husband got Assasins Creed on xbox one and to be honest the graphics look pretty much the same as any assassins creed game form previous gen consoles. Now thats not to say that different engines dont give diffrent results on a specific game , cause they do specially for DAI, but since this is a new system and with newer hardwear it will take a couple of years  for the graphics of games in general to be TRULY next gen, but even still some of the games that will still be released on older consoles will look slightly diffrent as they will have to optimize it to "match up" with that specific hardwear, witch means  lower poly models and "smaller" texture maps

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Adela Gabriela ‏@ag9993 12m

@Mike_Laidlaw I know this may be a lil too early to ask but will BW be at PAX East?
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@ag9993 I believe a few of us will be there, not sure about anything official.

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Gonna play some Cards Against Humanity on LadyInsanity's Twitch stream with her, if you wanna come and watch!:

http://www.twitch.tv/ladyinsanity

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So I'm playing Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning and I come across a blacksmith Greg Ellis voiced. Bad time to be talking with my friend on the phone, because her hearing is gone after I unleashed a squeal. XD

EDIT Actually, he turned out to be a carpenter/interior designer. :lol:

That's was my exact reaction when hearing Greg Ellis' voice on there for the first time. :D

Greg Ellis is all over KoA:R. It seems like he voices most of the NPCs. It's a Cullen fans' paradise.

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We have a BioWare dev playing with us!

http://www.twitch.tv/ladyinsanity

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A curious definition of 'fan service' popped up in a Cullen-centric DA confession just now.

http://dragonageconf...eading-a-branch

I suppose I find it curious that the confession suggests that so long as Cullen has a role in the main plot, then his inclusion isn't fan service. I would guess that the Cullen haters would disagree with this definition, since his very inclusion at all would often be considered 'fan service.'

That being said... I can't tell what *would* qualify as fan service for the confessor.

I suppose, for myself, if he just one or two speaking lines, something like, "How you doin'?" *eye waggle* and he constantly is shirtless, then I'd call that fan service (/begin subliminal and I'd still take it! /end subliminal). But if he's, you know, a character who seems to fit in ridiculously well with what we've seen of the DA:I, then pretty much any role he has in the plot seems like he's serving the story/game, not the fans. 0_o

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So, what would y'all's definition of fan service be??

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Well in general I see the term "fan service" as referring to any content that is created specifically to please/attract fans. It's usually sexual... like I watch lots of anime catered towards women, so there's often BL fanservice, or just bishounen fanservice in general (hot shirtless sparkly guys lol). The straight male fan version is panty shots, etc.

In DA... I would consider Alistair showing up and even giving that "Swooping is bad" comment pure fanservice. Alistair didn't need to be there AT ALL. It's not really sexual in nature (since he's fully clothed and what not LOL) but it was definitely a nod to his fans, who are mostly female.

For Cullen to be fan service... it would have to be a reference to something he previously said or did that he is well known for. So if Cullen appeared briefly in DA:I and blushed/flirted with the female inquisitor, then to me that would be fan service.

Cullen being a minor NPC but with no overt nod or wink at his fans would not be fan service. Cullen being a major NPC wouldn't be fan service, same if he is a companion.

Just my opinion on the matter :P

Modifié par motomotogirl, 12 janvier 2014 - 12:02 .


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And, DG on DLC. (and addendum)

"Mind you, there was a big plot which was our third DLC for DA2 which was then cut and added into the DA2 expansion. Then, when the expansion was cancelled, was put into DAI. Completely re-written both times, of course, but the idea of it was preserved. So it does happen."

Starkhaven, FTW!!! (pleasepleasepleaseplease)

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motomotogirl wrote...

Well in general I see the term "fan service" as referring to any content that is created specifically to please/attract fans. It's usually sexual... like I watch lots of anime catered towards women, so there's often BL fanservice, or just bishounen fanservice in general (hot shirtless sparkly guys lol). The straight male fan version is panty shots, etc.

In DA... I would consider Alistair showing up and even giving that "Swooping is bad" comment pure fanservice. Alistair didn't need to be there AT ALL. It's not really sexual in nature (since he's fully clothed and what not LOL) but it was definitely a nod to his fans, who are mostly female.

For Cullen to be fan service... it would have to be a reference to something he previously said or did that he is well known for. So if Cullen appeared briefly in DA:I and blushed/flirted with the female inquisitor, then to me that would be fan service.

Cullen being a minor NPC but with no overt nod or wink at his fans would not be fan service. Cullen being a major NPC wouldn't be fan service, same if he is a companion.

Just my opinion on the matter :P

LOL How ironic (or perhaps not) that a closely following confession was just on how DA2!Alistair was fan servicey! http://dragonageconf...oping-is-bad-in

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If you are concerned about your computer about being able to run Inquisition..check this
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Use Battlefield 4  as a test....and look at the results. :wizard:


I found I have a strong enough processor and enough RAM (16 Gigs) to run on Medium Settings.

My one weakspot was the Videocard....Its an AMD 6670.  I will likely upgrade that but if I dont do it in time...I can rest easily knowing I can at least play it at Medium settings for the time being.

:wizard:

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R2s Muse wrote...

And, DG on DLC. (and addendum)

"Mind you, there was a big plot which was our third DLC for DA2 which was then cut and added into the DA2 expansion. Then, when the expansion was cancelled, was put into DAI. Completely re-written both times, of course, but the idea of it was preserved. So it does happen."

Starkhaven, FTW!!! (pleasepleasepleaseplease)


Yes! Want! Need! NeedWant!

I've just had a small thought. How are accents handled in the foreign dubs? Like do the French hear only French accents no matter who is talking, or do the Orlesians speak French for them but in an accent they associate being pompous and arrogant with?

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Elfman wrote...

I've just had a small thought. How are accents handled in the foreign dubs? Like do the French hear only French accents no matter who is talking, or do the Orlesians speak French for them but in an accent they associate being pompous and arrogant with?


Not sure I understand your last sentence... :blink: lol

I would assume though that everyone in the French dub speaks... French. But I wonder if they have dwarves, Dalish, etc. speak with different French accents (the way dwarves have American-English accents and Dalish have Irish- and Welsh-English accents).

Not that the English version of DA is even consistant with accents... see the above Dalish reference lol 

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R2s Muse wrote...

A curious definition of 'fan service' popped up in a Cullen-centric DA confession just now.

http://dragonageconf...eading-a-branch

I suppose I find it curious that the confession suggests that so long as Cullen has a role in the main plot, then his inclusion isn't fan service. I would guess that the Cullen haters would disagree with this definition, since his very inclusion at all would often be considered 'fan service.'

That being said... I can't tell what *would* qualify as fan service for the confessor.

I suppose, for myself, if he just one or two speaking lines, something like, "How you doin'?" *eye waggle* and he constantly is shirtless, then I'd call that fan service (/begin subliminal and I'd still take it! /end subliminal). But if he's, you know, a character who seems to fit in ridiculously well with what we've seen of the DA:I, then pretty much any role he has in the plot seems like he's serving the story/game, not the fans. 0_o

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So, what would y'all's definition of fan service be??


To me the " fan service" term is a bit of a "gray area" (and a lil bit overused)  considering that  for example  ppl b!thich about that they want to play diffrent races or  have tactical view back  I personally would consider that "fan service" as well, sice ppl are asking for something that they truley want, BUT to the same token I've noticed  that ppl neglect to see those things as fan service and focuse on the specific returning characters and call them as such, witch to me is a little unfair since some of the characters DO actually make sense if they return, even Alistair when he made his apperance in DA2,  now granted I do agree with the fact that the line "swooping is bad" was a lil uncalled for,  but him being in Kirkwall made kind of sense to me considering he IS the KIng in most playthroughs, (atleast thatst's what I think) so as being king  he has the "right" to visit  other countries and see how they are doing and IF they need any help with anything (same can be said for the real world presidents when they visit other countries on buissness). Also it has been mentoned  several times in DA2 that most of the Ferelden ppl HAVE  feld the country due to the blight, so most ppl try to go to Kirkwall due to its proximety to Ferelden? Since it was the closest. Now what DIDN'T made sense to me was Alistair being drunk and appear  in a "random bar"  talking bullsht. That to me didnt really made sense and  I may call that fan service, So I suppose you are kind of right in regards, that if the sepcific character makes "sense" to the story  then I wouldnt really call it  "fan service"

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motomotogirl wrote...

Elfman wrote...

I've just had a small thought. How are accents handled in the foreign dubs? Like do the French hear only French accents no matter who is talking, or do the Orlesians speak French for them but in an accent they associate being pompous and arrogant with?


Not sure I understand your last sentence... :blink: lol

I would assume though that everyone in the French dub speaks... French. But I wonder if they have dwarves, Dalish, etc. speak with different French accents (the way dwarves have American-English accents and Dalish have Irish- and Welsh-English accents).

Not that the English version of DA is even consistant with accents... see the above Dalish reference lol 


I mean like how people hear someone's accent and they attribute certain characteristics to that person. Like a Brummie accent and you think 'unfortunate', (in the words of David Mitchell). How a nice Scottish accent would be something I would find reassuring in a dentist, but a Glaswegian accent and I'm out the door faster a Looney Tunes character.

The majority of Orlesian characters are meant as comedy characters and therefore have very exaggerated French accents because we have strong associations with the French being arrogant, up themselves. Basically, I wanted to know if the French dub gets a specific French regional accent for those Orlesians, or even Italian or Spanish if that's what they think of them.

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Elfman wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Elfman wrote...

I've just had a small thought. How are accents handled in the foreign dubs? Like do the French hear only French accents no matter who is talking, or do the Orlesians speak French for them but in an accent they associate being pompous and arrogant with?


Not sure I understand your last sentence... :blink: lol

I would assume though that everyone in the French dub speaks... French. But I wonder if they have dwarves, Dalish, etc. speak with different French accents (the way dwarves have American-English accents and Dalish have Irish- and Welsh-English accents).

Not that the English version of DA is even consistant with accents... see the above Dalish reference lol 


I mean like how people hear someone's accent and they attribute certain characteristics to that person. Like a Brummie accent and you think 'unfortunate', (in the words of David Mitchell). How a nice Scottish accent would be something I would find reassuring in a dentist, but a Glaswegian accent and I'm out the door faster a Looney Tunes character.

The majority of Orlesian characters are meant as comedy characters and therefore have very exaggerated French accents because we have strong associations with the French being arrogant, up themselves. Basically, I wanted to know if the French dub gets a specific French regional accent for those Orlesians, or even Italian or Spanish if that's what they think of them.

I think I see what you mean. For example, what does Baron Arlange sound like when dubbed in French? To us, in English, he sounds insufferably pompous and rather foolish, in an extreme, Monty Python-esque charicature of the French. So, when they dub it in French, do they use a similar tone trying to connote those characteristics?  I would expect it depends a bit on the actor and whether they can nail the intent of the character or not, and probably less on further  pidgeon-holing regional accents.  I suppose BW has a narrow path  to walk with their "French-sounding" characters, tho, so as not to ****** off the French with offensive stereotypes. Then again, they've already gone there with the Orlesians we've seen so far.

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Elfman wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Elfman wrote...

I've just had a small thought. How are accents handled in the foreign dubs? Like do the French hear only French accents no matter who is talking, or do the Orlesians speak French for them but in an accent they associate being pompous and arrogant with?


Not sure I understand your last sentence... :blink: lol

I would assume though that everyone in the French dub speaks... French. But I wonder if they have dwarves, Dalish, etc. speak with different French accents (the way dwarves have American-English accents and Dalish have Irish- and Welsh-English accents).

Not that the English version of DA is even consistant with accents... see the above Dalish reference lol 


I mean like how people hear someone's accent and they attribute certain characteristics to that person. Like a Brummie accent and you think 'unfortunate', (in the words of David Mitchell). How a nice Scottish accent would be something I would find reassuring in a dentist, but a Glaswegian accent and I'm out the door faster a Looney Tunes character.

The majority of Orlesian characters are meant as comedy characters and therefore have very exaggerated French accents because we have strong associations with the French being arrogant, up themselves. Basically, I wanted to know if the French dub gets a specific French regional accent for those Orlesians, or even Italian or Spanish if that's what they think of them.


I imagine they get a different regional accent or something like that, yeah. Or there's more emphasis on the fact they're simply arrogant nobility.

So a snarky Hawke might make fun of having to practice a more 'posh' accent instead of the Orlesian accent specifically or something. 

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R2s Muse wrote...

I suppose BW has a narrow path  to walk with their "French-sounding" characters, tho, so as not to ****** off the French with offensive stereotypes. Then again, they've already gone there with the Orlesians we've seen so far.


Yeah I'm not even French (well, not mainland French) and I find it offensive.

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Personally, I think it's exaggerated and such to make our characters hate Orlesians.

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I think maybe we're supposed to dislike or find the Orlesian upper-crust of society absolutely ridiculous with their social games and over the top lifestyle.

Obviously there's more to Orlais than the decadent crowd, there are normal people and poor people too. I'm sure they are much more likeable and not at all caricatures.

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I guess it's kinda like that reality show Jersey Shores, the people on that are ridiculous, spoilt, dumber than a bag of hammers and thoroughly awful, but not all people from Jersey are like that... or at least, I hope not! :lol:

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LolaLei wrote...

I guess it's kinda like that reality show Jersey Shores, the people on that are ridiculous, spoilt, dumber than a bag of hammers and thoroughly awful, but not all people from Jersey are like that... or at least, I hope not! :lol:


And trust me, people from NJ aren't too fond of the show.

It's kind of like when TV shows portray southerners or god forbid, Cajuns/Creoles/Louisiana peeps... and they're complete morons. Um, yeah, it's offensive lol

Dumb characters are often given US southern accents; snobby characters are given French accents. It plays on viewer/player prejudice.

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Elfman wrote...

I've just had a small thought. How are accents handled in the foreign dubs? Like do the French hear only French accents no matter who is talking, or do the Orlesians speak French for them but in an accent they associate being pompous and arrogant with?


They use different regional accents. For example if it's a French dub and they are portraying a common sounding character that's rough around the edges then their French accent would adopted a harsher, common tone from a region of France with an accent that would sound appropriate.

It would be like me putting on a common Londoner accent to play the part of Nancy in Oliver.

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LolaLei wrote...

I guess it's kinda like that reality show Jersey Shores, the people on that are ridiculous, spoilt, dumber than a bag of hammers and thoroughly awful, but not all people from Jersey are like that... or at least, I hope not! :lol:


Same with Geordie Shore. I might only be a Teessider, but southerners seem to think we sound like Geordies for some reason so I'm sure they hate the negative stereotypes as much as we do. Then again, I've yet to see someone from Essex deny the truth behind the TOWIE stereotypes, so maybe not.

I was only curious because there's so many things beyond the accent that would point to Orlais being the France of Thedas, just as Ferelden is England, and I wanted to know how other countries and dubs, (even the ones beside the French dub), handle it when each country has its own delusions and craziness.

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I think they've just been over the top because we're meant to see them as pompose nobility. Kind of like how in English shows, pompose nobility is given the poshest of British accents and portrayed as over the top.

Leliana and Riordan weren't over the top at all, and both were Orlesian. In fact I really hope Riordan's VA is voicing a possible companion, because dat voice:wizard:

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Elfman: If it helps, at PAX Prime they done a panel that explains all of that sort of thing. You can find it on NerdAppropriate, they turned all the panels into podcasts.