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[LolaLei]

Hm, actually... maybe that was a tad unfair on Cullen story arc in DA:O. It was nice seeing how Cullen was before his torture... gave us a small glimpse into a softer side of him, rather than the professional side to him that we saw in DA2. I also liked that he was strong enough not to succumb to the demons, that takes a lot of will power, lol.

[CuriousArtemis]

Viktoria Landers wrote...

Cullen was a very interesting character in Dragon Age: Origins too. (in his own way)

What are the things you like most from DAO Cullen?

How fetching he looks when trapped behind a pink bubble 

Okay, seriously, I don't find DA:O Cullen interesting at all. As Lola says, he becomes interesting in DA2, and that's partly because of his experiences in DA:O. The DA2 writing team took that and ran with it. Hopefully we'll get to see the continuation of his story arc in DA:I.

[CuriousArtemis]

LolaLei wrote...

Hm, actually... maybe that was a tad unfair on Cullen story arc in DA:O. It was nice seeing how Cullen was before his torture... gave us a small glimpse into a softer side of him, rather than the professional side to him that we saw in DA2. I also liked that he was strong enough not to succumb to the demons, that takes a lot of will power, lol.

Yeah but I don't think these alone make him interesting in DA:O. It's how he evolves from that in DA2 that makes him an interesting character. That strength of will turns into conviction, a belief that he is absolutely right about mages. And yet a little niggling doubt remains, a hint of sweet young templar Cullen that still remains, and makes him sometimes doubt. 

Just IMO of course 

[LolaLei]

I think, in a weird kind of way what happened to him in the circle tower was a good thing.

I mean, before that incident he came across as kinda meek and naive (especially if you talk to him as a male Amell/Surana) he's very nervous and paranoid about what an abomination could look like etc and at first impressions you'd presume that he'd be one of the first to die or be possessed. But during that blood mage attack he stayed strong and was able to withstand the demons for weeks, possibly months. Very few people seem to be able to stay strong under those circumstances, especially for that amount of time.

I think that's when a lot of people saw his potential, which grew when DA2 rolled around.

Modifié par LolaLei, 25 janvier 2014 - 08:07 .

[LolaLei]

motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Hm, actually... maybe that was a tad unfair on Cullen story arc in DA:O. It was nice seeing how Cullen was before his torture... gave us a small glimpse into a softer side of him, rather than the professional side to him that we saw in DA2. I also liked that he was strong enough not to succumb to the demons, that takes a lot of will power, lol.

Yeah but I don't think these alone make him interesting in DA:O. It's how he evolves from that in DA2 that makes him an interesting character. That strength of will turns into conviction, a belief that he is absolutely right about mages. And yet a little niggling doubt remains, a hint of sweet young templar Cullen that still remains, and makes him sometimes doubt. 

Just IMO of course 

Oh, I know. I was just trying to think of things that I found interesting from his DA:O story, LOL. Admittedly, there isn't an awful lot because he gets very little screentime.

[Jean]

I'm curious what his motivation to stay alive may have been.

Or maybe it was simply just a very strong sense of faith the whole time?

I'm curious if this is something you could ask him and talk about it or if he'd be reluctant to talk about it. He seemed open about his experience in DA2, anyway.

[Potato Cat]

LolaLei wrote...

That's true. I mean, they're press not heavy fans like we are, so they could be seeing certain things and jumping to completely the wrong conclusions, lol. Like the whole "fan favourite" Knight Captain, he's by no means a favourite of DA fans in general... hell, a vast majority can't stand the guy!  Controversial would have probably been a more accurate description.

Honestly, I don't think that's fair. It wasn't long ago his name popped up in a thread on the main forums and I noticed the majority of people who had been like I HATE CULLEN! were either the sort of pro-mages who would never want to support a templar in a million billion years or pretty much stabstabkillkill people. Others didn't really seem to care either way and some, who aren't regulars here, were waving their Cullen pom poms.

I think a lot of people just think we're weirder than we actually are, Tali's sweat weird, and just displace the impression they have on us on Cullen. 

[Potato Cat]

Batteries wrote...

I'm curious what his motivation to stay alive may have been.

Or maybe it was simply just a very strong sense of faith the whole time?

I'm curious if this is something you could ask him and talk about it or if he'd be reluctant to talk about it. He seemed open about his experience in DA2, anyway.

I want it to be one of his big conversations in Inquisition, if he is a companion, maybe even only as part of his romance even, (so long as it doesn't become too like Jack's romance in ME2). I was thinking about this the other day, how would the various companions be recruited and what would their personal quests be like?

I thought we could recruit Vivienne from one of the old Circles where she's helping defend her fellow mages who stayed, like the Aequatarians, Loyalists and nice Templars, while the place is being assaulted by both Red Templars from the outside and demons from within. Then I thought we could recruit Cullen from Aeonar, but only because I properly bum over the concept of going there in Inquisition. (Also because I've kind of got a Joss Whedon mentality and love to see the characters I love being tortured. Teehee! )

[Jean]

 You mean we shouldn't talk about Templar Booty Sweat? 

[Ser Alicia]

Batteries wrote...

 You mean we shouldn't talk about Templar Booty Sweat? 

Well, as long as we don't get all scientific about it. 

[Jean]

it's all in the lyrium

[CuriousArtemis]

I just had a realization (not related to Cullen... sorry!). I was reading a thread about inquisitor last names, and it occured to me that if there are to only be four last names, then there are likely to only be four origins.

I mean, would it make sense for a Dalish inquisitor to be called Lavellan.... yet if I were to restart the game as a city elf, I'd still be called Lavellan?

I think they semi-confirmed that a Dalish mage is possible. So I suspect the elven option, regardless of class, will be Dalish.

Kind of disappointing, as I was hoping to play lots of different elven origins... Dalish, city, Circle, etc.

[VampOrchid]

You know, I've been thinking. What if grey warden guy is an npc that's very helpful but doesn't actually join in ur questing. Because usually grey wardens don't get involved in things outside of the grey wardens. So that may leave an empty slot, maybe Cullen fills it.

[Potato Cat]

motomotogirl wrote...

I just had a realization (not related to Cullen... sorry!). I was reading a thread about inquisitor last names, and it occured to me that if there are to only be four last names, then there are likely to only be four origins.

I mean, would it make sense for a Dalish inquisitor to be called Lavellan.... yet if I were to restart the game as a city elf, I'd still be called Lavellan?

I think they semi-confirmed that a Dalish mage is possible. So I suspect the elven option, regardless of class, will be Dalish.

Kind of disappointing, as I was hoping to play lots of different elven origins... Dalish, city, Circle, etc.

Well I abandoned the thought of being a CE a while ago now. Honestly, I think I prefer the revisions I did to my character's backstory so they could still essentially be the same character I had planned. But personally, even if we are a Lavellan no matter what, I think if we're a First or something that it's sufficiently different from being just another Dalish hunter.

[Ser Alicia]

VampOrchid wrote...

You know, I've been thinking. What if grey warden guy is an npc that's very helpful but doesn't actually join in ur questing. Because usually grey wardens don't get involved in things outside of the grey wardens. So that may leave an empty slot, maybe Cullen fills it.

Oh, that's right! When you meet Stroud (or Alistair, depending on your import save) and you ask for help, he tells you that Grey Wardens can't get involved in wars like that. So maybe he's just an important NPC.

[Mahumia]

I actually liked the DA:O Cullen most for the psychological and human side that he shows after the whole torture thing. It gave the whole situation so much more depth. And I was really impressed that he was able to withstand it all, even though he was clearly traumatised (which is completely logical!).

The whole 'Dalish mage is possible' thing made me also jumping to the conclusion that the only elven option will be Dalish. It makes me wonder about the other origins too... Dwarven commoner (surfacer), human commoner...?

And totally offtopic... I'm pissed off at myself for accidently feeding my Aveline to Sebastian in HodA >< Raised a ticket, but I'm afraid they are not going to undo it for me

[Chanda]

TheBioticAssassin wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

You know, I've been thinking. What if grey warden guy is an npc that's very helpful but doesn't actually join in ur questing. Because usually grey wardens don't get involved in things outside of the grey wardens. So that may leave an empty slot, maybe Cullen fills it.

Oh, that's right! When you meet Stroud (or Alistair, depending on your import save) and you ask for help, he tells you that Grey Wardens can't get involved in wars like that. So maybe he's just an important NPC.

Except that in one of the concept arts for the warden guy, it looks like he left the Grey Wardens. And, Anders was a Grey Warden, and he was a companion and LI. But he is an example of a Grey Warden who has left the Wardens. 

[Ser Alicia]

Chanda wrote...

TheBioticAssassin wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

You know, I've been thinking. What if grey warden guy is an npc that's very helpful but doesn't actually join in ur questing. Because usually grey wardens don't get involved in things outside of the grey wardens. So that may leave an empty slot, maybe Cullen fills it.

Oh, that's right! When you meet Stroud (or Alistair, depending on your import save) and you ask for help, he tells you that Grey Wardens can't get involved in wars like that. So maybe he's just an important NPC.

Except that in one of the concept arts for the warden guy, it looks like he left the Grey Wardens. And, Anders was a Grey Warden, and he was a companion and LI. But he is an example of a Grey Warden who has left the Wardens. 

I'm just hoping he's an NPC because that gives Cullen a greater chance of being a companion. 

Although... you do have a point. Anders was a former Warden, and he was also a companion - twice in fact. Maybe Beardy will leave the Wardens just to help the Inquisitor save the world.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

The thing I found interesting about Cullen is Origins is that the writers did a very good job portraying the after-effects of highly traumatic situations, which is pretty unusual in games.

His character arc in DA2 was what really made me attached to him, though.

[Mahumia]

But for Anders joining Hawkes crew was also a bit of self-preservation, in my opinion. He could definately use the protection. I guess Beardy would join the crew, if he does, because he actually wants to help. But yeah, I am now no longer sure that he is actually going to be a companion... /sadface

[Chanda]

Sure about GWG? Or about Cullen?

I think if GWG leaves the Wardens, it is because they say they won't help, like what Stroud said. And GWG knows that these veil tears can destroy the world worse than the blights, so he feels compelled to join the Inquisitor to help stop them.

Modifié par Chanda, 25 janvier 2014 - 09:53 .

[CuriousArtemis]

He could also serve as a representative. It's possible the veil tear is related to the thing Stroud said they were investigating.

[Chanda]

Gah. Stupid phone.

[berelinde]

 I came online to see if anybody was talking about this, and no one seems to be. Or is it old news?

[Chanda]

motomotogirl wrote...

He could also serve as a representative. It's possible the veil tear is related to the thing Stroud said they were investigating.

That's a good point, but then how to explain the concept art where he is tearing off his grey warden pendant?