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From the twitter thread:

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[Regarding the release of the Dev Diaries] could you please elaborate on "Soon"?

Aaryn Flynn ‏@AarynFlynn:
Sometime in February. We want to make sure we get the work done and done well.

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Soooo, February then!!!

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R2s Muse wrote...

From the twitter thread:

User:
[Regarding the release of the Dev Diaries] could you please elaborate on "Soon"?

Aaryn Flynn ‏@AarynFlynn:
Sometime in February. We want to make sure we get the work done and done well.

.......
Soooo, February then!!!


well... atleast there is gonna be some news this month:D cant wait

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R2s Muse wrote...

HUh, I actually wish I'd seen a bit more of what you saw. In my pro-templar playthrough turning Keran in was the one choice that I just couldn't do, even for science. If I'd seen him as possibly manipulating Hawke et al., it would have made the choice more grey. Huh. Now I wonder what was behind those baby blues! LOL

Well I'm glad somebody wishes they'd seen it the way I did. :P I was actually pretty embarrassed and felt kind of... guilty, in a weird way. I mean, I hope I'm not that suspicious and insensitive in real life!

For me, though, Keran's writing versus Cullen's writing when it comes to trauma is a huge contrast. Cullen is done pretty realistically. Keran... not so much, and that threw me.

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Maybe there'll be a glimpse of a certain blond templar...

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oh and welcome to the thread eluvianix :)

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ag99 wrote...

oh and welcome to the thread eluvianix :)


Oh thank you! Glad to know  that there are more of us on the BSN!!

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eluvianix wrote...

ag99 wrote...

oh and welcome to the thread eluvianix :)


Oh thank you! Glad to know  that there are more of us on the BSN!!


yea we are, we just dont visit the main forums that much:P

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TreeHuggerHannah wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

HUh, I actually wish I'd seen a bit more of what you saw. In my pro-templar playthrough turning Keran in was the one choice that I just couldn't do, even for science. If I'd seen him as possibly manipulating Hawke et al., it would have made the choice more grey. Huh. Now I wonder what was behind those baby blues! LOL

Well I'm glad somebody wishes they'd seen it the way I did. :P I was actually pretty embarrassed and felt kind of... guilty, in a weird way. I mean, I hope I'm not that suspicious and insensitive in real life!

For me, though, Keran's writing versus Cullen's writing when it comes to trauma is a huge contrast. Cullen is done pretty realistically. Keran... not so much, and that threw me.

just thinking out loud (er, as it were...), I wonder of it's also a bit of the voice acting. But it's funny how differently things can strike you. 

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ag99 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

ag99 wrote...

oh and welcome to the thread eluvianix :)


Oh thank you! Glad to know  that there are more of us on the BSN!!


yea we are, we just dont visit the main forums that much:P

LOL Yes, we just stay here in our kitten orphanage. Hoping it doesn't burn down around us. ;)

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R2s Muse wrote...

TreeHuggerHannah wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

HUh, I actually wish I'd seen a bit more of what you saw. In my pro-templar playthrough turning Keran in was the one choice that I just couldn't do, even for science. If I'd seen him as possibly manipulating Hawke et al., it would have made the choice more grey. Huh. Now I wonder what was behind those baby blues! LOL

Well I'm glad somebody wishes they'd seen it the way I did. :P I was actually pretty embarrassed and felt kind of... guilty, in a weird way. I mean, I hope I'm not that suspicious and insensitive in real life!

For me, though, Keran's writing versus Cullen's writing when it comes to trauma is a huge contrast. Cullen is done pretty realistically. Keran... not so much, and that threw me.

just thinking out loud (er, as it were...), I wonder of it's also a bit of the voice acting. But it's funny how differently things can strike you. 

Yeah! The voice acting was definitely a factor. As was the fact that the character model appears not to make a normal amount of direct eye contact (which could be just a function of the camera angle.) 

It's also just partly me as player, though - my level of guardedness against manipulation is pretty high, and I see that sometimes in my gameplay decisions. /self-analysis

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I had somehow gotten it into my head that Valentines Day was tomorrow. (I guess I had it mixed up with Groundhog Day? Oh, my brain...) So now I have to be patient again. :P

Modifié par TreeHuggerHannah, 02 février 2014 - 03:54 .


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R2s Muse wrote...

From the twitter thread:

User:
[Regarding the release of the Dev Diaries] could you please elaborate on "Soon"?

Aaryn Flynn ‏@AarynFlynn:
Sometime in February. We want to make sure we get the work done and done well.

.......
Soooo, February then!!!

Glad we finally got some clarification. Now that I know, I can stop going crazy from the lack of info. Can't wait!

Oh, and welcome to the OKCCDT, eluvianix! This thread is a safe haven for Cullen fans to take refuge in during the storm of trolls and Cullen-haters in the Inquisition forums. :wizard:

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TreeHuggerHannah wrote...

I had somehow gotten it into my head that Valentines Day was tomorrow. (I guess I had it mixed up with Groundhog Day? Oh, my brain...) So now I have to be patient again. :P

I keep marking the days down on my calendar in anticipation of Valentine's Day and some possible LI info. The wait is killing me, man.

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I bet "some time in February" means February 14th. And we're going to see some romance options.

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Rinshikai10 wrote...

Has anyone here who has played HoDA seen Sandel? I saw am image of it on the DA wiki.


I've seen him. I've played him. I ... died very, very quickly :lol:

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R2s Muse wrote...

TreeHuggerHannah wrote...

I thought the writers' intention was that Keran was possessed, because the way he was written didn't read as authentic trauma to me. As a result, his pleading came off to me as manipulative and calculating, and his pressing desire to get back into a position where he had power over others appeared to be predatory. My Hawke had him removed not because he might housing a demon but because my Hawke (and I) sincerely thought that he was.

I didn't realize the writers' intention was that he was supposed to be clean till a friend told me later. I wouldn't have perceived him as genuine short of meta-game knowledge, because the way the scenes were written just didn't work for me at all.

It's interesting (in a good way!) to me how different people can interpret the same scene wildly differently based our own individual filters.

HUh, I actually wish I'd seen a bit more of what you saw. In my pro-templar playthrough turning Keran in was the one choice that I just couldn't do, even for science. If I'd seen him as possibly manipulating Hawke et al., it would have made the choice more grey. Huh. Now I wonder what was behind those baby blues! LOL


This is one of my favorite scenes for Hawke (though not for Cullen because his personality sort of fades away for a bit so that you the player can decide what happens to Keran). It really depends on my Hawke. If I have a kind Hawke who is easily swayed (has his/her heart strings easily tugged upon) then s/he will be definitely stick up for Keran, ESPECIALLY if Anders, Merrill, or Bethany confirmed that Keran is free. However, if I have a more cautious Hawke, s/he will definitely err on the side of caution and say, even though Keran is innocent, there's no way to know if he's possessed (he may not even know it). It is just too dangerous to let something like that infiltrate the templars.

My current Hawke made this recommendation... it genuinely is the most rational decision. If I were Cullen, there's no WAY I'd let that kid back in. ESPECIALLY after having seen what happened to Wilmod! 

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eluvianix wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

... Not that Boris ever gets laid. I think Scottish does it on purpose, lol.

I'm assuming this is the fabulous AD?
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At your service, LOL! :lol:

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motomotogirl wrote...

Rinshikai10 wrote...

Has anyone here who has played HoDA seen Sandel? I saw am image of it on the DA wiki.


I've seen him. I've played him. I ... died very, very quickly :lol:


Did they make him ginger?

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motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

TreeHuggerHannah wrote...

I thought the writers' intention was that Keran was possessed, because the way he was written didn't read as authentic trauma to me. As a result, his pleading came off to me as manipulative and calculating, and his pressing desire to get back into a position where he had power over others appeared to be predatory. My Hawke had him removed not because he might housing a demon but because my Hawke (and I) sincerely thought that he was.

I didn't realize the writers' intention was that he was supposed to be clean till a friend told me later. I wouldn't have perceived him as genuine short of meta-game knowledge, because the way the scenes were written just didn't work for me at all.

It's interesting (in a good way!) to me how different people can interpret the same scene wildly differently based our own individual filters.

HUh, I actually wish I'd seen a bit more of what you saw. In my pro-templar playthrough turning Keran in was the one choice that I just couldn't do, even for science. If I'd seen him as possibly manipulating Hawke et al., it would have made the choice more grey. Huh. Now I wonder what was behind those baby blues! LOL


This is one of my favorite scenes for Hawke (though not for Cullen because his personality sort of fades away for a bit so that you the player can decide what happens to Keran). It really depends on my Hawke. If I have a kind Hawke who is easily swayed (has his/her heart strings easily tugged upon) then s/he will be definitely stick up for Keran, ESPECIALLY if Anders, Merrill, or Bethany confirmed that Keran is free. However, if I have a more cautious Hawke, s/he will definitely err on the side of caution and say, even though Keran is innocent, there's no way to know if he's possessed (he may not even know it). It is just too dangerous to let something like that infiltrate the templars.

My current Hawke made this recommendation... it genuinely is the most rational decision. If I were Cullen, there's no WAY I'd let that kid back in. ESPECIALLY after having seen what happened to Wilmod! 


Oh, man! I really wish it had turned out that Keran had been possessed when let back into the Order, I would've felt terrible for persuading Cullen to let him back in, but what a twist! :lol:

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Oh, man! I really wish it had turned out that Keran had been possessed when let back into the Order, I would've felt terrible for persuading Cullen to let him back in, but what a twist! :lol:

oh man, no kidding.  LOL Can you imagine how Cullen would feel? Talk about the worst Templar in Thedas. Poor dear.

Then the demons start erupting out if the templars during the final battles in Act 3. At least then it would have made a bit more sense to me why there were already so many demons to fight in the city as you made your way to the Gallows. It was always so hard for me to justify why so many mages were loose.

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R2s Muse wrote...

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Oh, man! I really wish it had turned out that Keran had been possessed when let back into the Order, I would've felt terrible for persuading Cullen to let him back in, but what a twist! :lol:

oh man, no kidding.  LOL Can you imagine how Cullen would feel? Talk about the worst Templar in Thedas. Poor dear.

Then the demons start erupting out if the templars during the final battles in Act 3. At least then it would have made a bit more sense to me why there were already so many demons to fight in the city as you made your way to the Gallows. It was always so hard for me to justify why so many mages were loose.


Makes me wonder if that was the original plan or something?

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LolaLei wrote...

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Oh, man! I really wish it had turned out that Keran had been possessed when let back into the Order, I would've felt terrible for persuading Cullen to let him back in, but what a twist! :lol:

oh man, no kidding.  LOL Can you imagine how Cullen would feel? Talk about the worst Templar in Thedas. Poor dear.

Then the demons start erupting out if the templars during the final battles in Act 3. At least then it would have made a bit more sense to me why there were already so many demons to fight in the city as you made your way to the Gallows. It was always so hard for me to justify why so many mages were loose.


Makes me wonder if that was the original plan or something?

Huh, I wonder. I'd honestly love to learn more details about their jettisoned 'templars suspect Hawke is a mage' plot. So many possibilities.

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I would LOVE for BW to release a ditty on "rejected story lines" once the series ends. I'm very curious to see what all ended up on the cutting room floor.

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meanieweenie wrote...

I would LOVE for BW to release a ditty on "rejected story lines" once the series ends. I'm very curious to see what all ended up on the cutting room floor.


Agreed, I'd love to know all about some of the storylines and concepts that got cut from each of the games.

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meanieweenie wrote...

I would LOVE for BW to release a ditty on "rejected story lines" once the series ends. I'm very curious to see what all ended up on the cutting room floor.

Oh absolutely! Count me in!

And welcome Eluvianix!

Oh Keran... he gets me every time with those blue puppy eyes... I have rejected him only once, and felt horribly guilty afterwards.