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Last week of February. Hopefully we get a Dev Diary to end the month with.

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Chanda wrote...

Last week of February. Hopefully we get a Dev Diary to end the month with.


Yeah I'm fairly confident they will release it this week myself. If not I'll be angry if I'm forced to choose between Episode 2 of TWD's release which I am also confident will be not this Tuesday but the Tuesday after that. Yeah it's ten/fifteen to an hour's difference depending on which I pick, but still. 

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I'm going to attempt to get some of my art projects today...sigh. Hopefully I'll have some DA related up in the next few weeks.

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 Xilizhra wrote... 

Also, I've been thinking... given the presence of Cassandra, the Iron Bull, and the Grey Warden, do we really need another warrior? Especially since we only look to have two mages, Vivienne and Dorian, and two rogues, Varric and Sera... and the fact that Cassandra is already the holy warrior? I'm just beginning to think that Cullen might have been bumped back as a companion to the fourth game.

Well, none of us know, with absolute certainty, that Iron Bull is even a companion. He could be a very important NPC. Then again, so could Cullen. We can't be certain until the almighty devs decree it.

And perhaps Cullen is different this time around. Maybe he's not so holy anymore. A vigilante serving no one, kicking a** and taking names... as long as he still has morals. He wouldn't be Cullen anymore if he would allow the Inquisitor to burn an entire village or kill an innocent without him trying to stop her/him.

Xilizhra wrote...

To be honest, though, I don't want it to be so warrior-heavy. Warriors are probably my least favorite class to play as. I've got nothing against including Cullen, and maybe it would have been better to make Cassandra an NPC, include Cullen, and have a female Grey Warden warrior, but as it stands, it seems to me as though it's probable that Cullen will not be a playable companion.

Quite possibly a romance option in some way still, though.

I agree with your sentiments regarding warrior-heavy parties. I, for one, enjoy playing as a warrior during my first playthrough of DA games, but that doesn't mean I want a party full of warriors. That could lead to problems. For example, in DA:O, I always brought Alistair with me and I myself played as a warrior, so I had no need to bring Sten, Shale, or Oghren with me anywhere. I missed out on a lot of content because of that.

I hope the party is balanced this time around, and I also hope Cullen is a companion. The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

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VampOrchid wrote...

I'm going to attempt to get some of my art projects today...sigh. Hopefully I'll have some DA related up in the next few weeks.


Cool, I can't wait to see it Vamp :D

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I feel like Cullen fills a different space than Cassandra though. Simply because Seekers and Templars have such different purposes to begin with. I always got the feeling that Seekers were the Internal Affairs of the Templar Order and that while they still had Templar duties like hunting mages their all around duties was as much about policing their own men as it was policing mages, Anyway Cassandra seems much more Pro-Chantry than Pro-Templar because there is a difference in my opinion.

Cullen provides that Pro-Templar role a bit better than Cassandra does. I also think she's going to be much more involved in the investigation of the Big Bad then of the Mage-Templar War. Cullen would have opinions (I'm assuming) on Red Templars beyond "TRAITORS!!!" and on the Circle system itself since he's seen the flaws of more free reign (Ferelden) and utter lockdown (Kirkwall).

As for a Warrior heavy team as has been mentioned I suspect there will be one, just because they've never had more than two mages (companions) in the party. I recall a post mentioning that they didn't want a party of only mages because it extremely unbalanced gameplay wise, but I could be misremembering.

I'd actually be really disappointed if Cullen is ONLY an LI, simply because I won't be interested in romancing him and was more looking forward to his character. Not that they wouldn't develop his character, but there'd be less of it as an NPC unless he has a major part in the plot. I wouldn't mind him showing up in a future game though as a companion.

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Huh.. so I was just re-looking over Varric's new armor and stuff, and I noticed something. No more earrings! At least for those pictures. Hopefully they didn't ditch his piercings like they got rid of Anders'. Which reminds me.. I really wanted the option for some sorta jewelry. Isabela gets a labret piercing, I'd personally want something for the nose, if not also ears.

I also wonder if they'll still have facial tattoos. I rarely picked them unless I was Dalish as it was rare I made a character one would look good on. Full body would be nice, but I somehow doubt we'll have the option.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

I'd actually be really disappointed if Cullen is ONLY an LI, simply because I won't be interested in romancing him and was more looking forward to his character. Not that they wouldn't develop his character, but there'd be less of it as an NPC unless he has a major part in the plot. I wouldn't mind him showing up in a future game though as a companion.

Agreed... I mean, sure I want to romance him, but I also wanted to drag him around Thedas and open his eyes to life outside of the Order. 

I guess having him as a romanceable-NPC would be better than nothing, but I'd need A LOT of interaction with him to make it feel as full as a companion romance. I'd also hope that we'd get at least one quest with him, even if it's only the obligatory "oh look, I found Cullen" quest that we've had in both the previous games, lol.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

I'd actually be really disappointed if Cullen is ONLY an LI, simply because I won't be interested in romancing him and was more looking forward to his character. Not that they wouldn't develop his character, but there'd be less of it as an NPC unless he has a major part in the plot. I wouldn't mind him showing up in a future game though as a companion.

I definitely agree with this to some degree; I don't want Cullen in the game just so I can get busy with him. BUT I would argue that being a party member doesn't necessarily equal character development. I think of ME and how the people in your party never really mattered, unless you got to a certain cut scene that was designed for that particular character (Kaiden/Ashley on Mars in ME3, for example). 

Of course that's ME not DA... but if they make Cullen a romance-able NPC, even though he can't literally join your squad and you can't level him up and what not, perhaps he will still be part of big, important cut scenes (such as a war room cut scene), AND if he's hanging around a certain spot, you can still go there and chat with him and investigate his past, etc. I would be totally okay with this.

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Lord Xendria wrote...

Huh.. so I was just re-looking over Varric's new armor and stuff, and I noticed something. No more earrings! At least for those pictures. Hopefully they didn't ditch his piercings like they got rid of Anders'. Which reminds me.. I really wanted the option for some sorta jewelry. Isabela gets a labret piercing, I'd personally want something for the nose, if not also ears.

I also wonder if they'll still have facial tattoos. I rarely picked them unless I was Dalish as it was rare I made a character one would look good on. Full body would be nice, but I somehow doubt we'll have the option.

I would love for my (hypothetical at this point) street rat city elf to have tattoos and piercings!!

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motomotogirl wrote...

Lord Xendria wrote...

Huh.. so I was just re-looking over Varric's new armor and stuff, and I noticed something. No more earrings! At least for those pictures. Hopefully they didn't ditch his piercings like they got rid of Anders'. Which reminds me.. I really wanted the option for some sorta jewelry. Isabela gets a labret piercing, I'd personally want something for the nose, if not also ears.

I also wonder if they'll still have facial tattoos. I rarely picked them unless I was Dalish as it was rare I made a character one would look good on. Full body would be nice, but I somehow doubt we'll have the option.

I would love for my (hypothetical at this point) street rat city elf to have tattoos and piercings!!


I seriously wish they would just come out and confirm the kind of elf we are if we're a warrior or rogue. They confirmed we're a Dalish mage, so I don't see how spoilerific confirming the kind of elf we are would be. I don't see how spoilery any background confirmation would be really. It's not like I want big spoilers, just 'city elf', 'Circle mage', 'Avvar' would do me.

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Thank you guys for all the support and all the kind words, this is why I love this thread so many  awesome ppl here:) (hugs)<3


LolaLei wrote...
Don't get disheartened, you're still young so you've got plenty of time to do all the courses and develop the skills needed. Plus, there are also indie games developers out there who are easily accessible and would serve as experience if you work on some of their games.... or you could make your own!

If it's something you want badly, definitely don't give up! <3


Thank you Lola for the encouragement.
Actually I was thinking of making some sort of a wannabe "DLC"  (for the Cullen fans) like something pre INQ about Cullen like when R2 had that page 2500 challange  about what Cullen has been up too since DA2  (obviously  it would be on a completely diffrent engine like UDK / Unity/ CryEngine) Also would require some voice acting and some writting of the story, and some concept arts... and then I would do the modeling and then implement everything into the engine.. idk I guess its just a crazy thought I had... there are certantly A LOT of talented ppl in this thread.. just saying:whistle:

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Elfman wrote...

I seriously wish they would just come out and confirm the kind of elf we are if we're a warrior or rogue. They confirmed we're a Dalish mage, so I don't see how spoilerific confirming the kind of elf we are would be. I don't see how spoilery any background confirmation would be really. It's not like I want big spoilers, just 'city elf', 'Circle mage', 'Avvar' would do me.

I know. It's like they don't even want to tell us if the sky is blue and the grass is green in this game.

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 Well, the sky is currently blue and green. :police:

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Batteries wrote...

 Well, the sky is currently blue and green. :police:


Well they never actually told us that to be fair...

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motomotogirl wrote...

Elfman wrote...

I seriously wish they would just come out and confirm the kind of elf we are if we're a warrior or rogue. They confirmed we're a Dalish mage, so I don't see how spoilerific confirming the kind of elf we are would be. I don't see how spoilery any background confirmation would be really. It's not like I want big spoilers, just 'city elf', 'Circle mage', 'Avvar' would do me.

I know. It's like they don't even want to tell us if the sky is blue and the grass is green in this game.




Or a better look at an elf, period. On the engine.

The eyes I'm very interested in. Alot of the concept art has them with blacked out eye whites and an eerie iris.

The elf face models they showed also looked to have very bright eyes, but I think they changed it all again, as that bald elf model had fairly normal eyes. I'm wondering if we'll have more "out there" colours to choose from for the elf eyes, more so than we had in Origins. Jethann blue would be good.

I just wanna see -something-!

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Lord Xendria wrote...
Or a better look at an elf, period. On the engine.

The eyes I'm very interested in. Alot of the concept art has them with blacked out eye whites and an eerie iris.

The elf face models they showed also looked to have very bright eyes, but I think they changed it all again, as that bald elf model had fairly normal eyes. I'm wondering if we'll have more "out there" colours to choose from for the elf eyes, more so than we had in Origins. Jethann blue would be good.

I just wanna see -something-!


Definitely. I distinctly remember, for both elves and qunari, (or maybe just qunari), reading before Origins was released that unusual eye colours among these races exist, for instance purple eyes. Sure it's not the Morrigan and Flemeth yellow I crave, but purple would be amazing.

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Purple would be my top choice, I make most of my characters have purple eyes. With mods. Too many base games give blah colours though, so I hope they give lots of interesting options.

If you zoom in on that Sera telling a dirty joke concept art, it looked like they gave her purple eyes, a lavender shade almost. Whether or not they kept that idea for the game version, I guess we'll have to see.

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I'm just hoping that I can actually tell what eye color I am picking in the character creator this time.

Unless the eye color is really, really bright and vibrant, I always have my face right on the screen just to try to see.

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Batteries wrote...

I'm just hoping that I can actually tell what eye color I am picking in the character creator this time.

Unless the eye color is really, really bright and vibrant, I always have my face right on the screen just to try to see.


I can't see it even then.

Pretty sad. I usually pick the biggest eye option and make it super big in the slider, then I pick what eye colour I want before picking the eye shape I wanted.

At least 2 was better for that, though some shades of brown blurred together for me.

The lighting also doesn't help.

Hopefully Xenon and his urchin can figure out a way to take their show on the road.

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I'm hoping Xenon will send our Inquisitor this mirror as a gift, or something. We can keep it in our bedroom in the main home hub!

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Lord Xendria wrote...

Purple would be my top choice, I make most of my characters have purple eyes. With mods. Too many base games give blah colours though, so I hope they give lots of interesting options.

If you zoom in on that Sera telling a dirty joke concept art, it looked like they gave her purple eyes, a lavender shade almost. Whether or not they kept that idea for the game version, I guess we'll have to see.


Varric has bright orange eyes in that cosplay reference guide they posted up on the BioWare blog, so maybe we'll get the option of other crazy looking colours.

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I don't think trying to tell Dragon Age eye colors was ever as bad as Mass Effect.

But at least ME1 had purple eyes.

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LolaLei wrote...

I'm hoping Xenon will send our Inquisitor this mirror as a gift, or something. We can keep it in our bedroom in the main home hub!


It could be something you get through spending agents....ALL your agents....

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Hmm I haven't had trouble telling the eye colors apart, but my TV is only a year old. Could be your display?