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[LolaLei]

Infact, I would go as far to say that if DA3 is for most part about the Mage/Templar rebellion then Cullen should be one of the plot heavy companions (like Alistair/Morrigan were in DA:O and Anders was in DA2), of course I'm biased so I would say that, but even if I hated him it would still make sense for him to be heavily tied into the plot.

Modifié par LolaLei, 07 août 2012 - 01:01 .

[LolaLei]

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

I just hope it isn't all about the mage vs. Templar thing in DA3.

Me too, it would be boring. However, if it's just the main focus before the real threat kicks in then that would be super awesome... So long as it's something beyond more war with the Qunari or whatever, because that would be equally as dull. I'm hoping it'll be something magic related like massive veil tear or something to do with Corypheus/Black City.

I'm not gonna lie though, I am worried that'll it'll be like DA2 in terms of storyline where we're just pratting around for a few years until something vaguely interesting happens lol.

[PizzaThe Hutt]

Well it seemed that while DA2 introduced more of the Qunari "Threat" it also introducing the Mage vs. Templar thing for the next game. Even though I got rather tired of it in DA2, I guess I'll have to deal with it a bit more. Not to mention when they bring in the Tevinter imperium into the fray. So I'd guess that Cullen has something important to do in the next game, sticking him in an NPC position doesn't really seem to do any justice to him.

[LolaLei]

Yeah, I got fed up with it too. Mainly because we were constantly dealing with OTT mages and Templars while for most part nothing actually happened, so it started to get a bit ridiculous after a while. If they handle it in a similar way that they dealt with the Blight plot in DA:O, where it's largely in the background for most of the game whilst we do other stuff until "crunch time" where sh!t gets real and then just as we're about to fight mages or Templars the skies open up and demons etc pour out... or something equally dramatic like that which doesn't just include wide scale war between races/classes lol, then that would be fine because (hopefully) our protagonist and companions won't be forced to pick sides or be defined solely by the mages plight, or the Templars plight or whatever.

Modifié par LolaLei, 07 août 2012 - 01:13 .

[LolaLei]

I think I'd be a bit put off of playing DA3 if the whole game was about war, firstly with the mages and Templars and then all of a sudden Orlais and Ferelden go to war against each other or the civil war in Orlais raged on, then finally the bloody Qunari attack and it was everyone against them. That would just be ridiculous, as it is I'm not keen on war games anyway lol.

I actually didn't think I'd like DA:O because of the Blight being a war so I was expecting your typical fantasy medieval war type thing, but I was proved wrong thank ****!

[PizzaThe Hutt]

If a huge breach of the Fade happens, I mildly expect Flemeth to be near by. Also Cullen Shaking his head and wondering how he always ends up getting into these messes

[LolaLei]

Also, is anyone else concerned that Alistair might have an affair with the Queen of Orlais if you made him king (especially if you hardened him.) It didn't cross my mind until I found out that Cailan was having an affair with her... It wouldn't surprise me if she tried her luck with Alistair. That's another reason I kept him as a Warden LOL! I think I'd be genuinely annoyed if DG and co wrote that into one of the games, comics or novels.

[LolaLei]

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

If a huge breach of the Fade happens, I mildly expect Flemeth to be near by. Also Cullen Shaking his head and wondering how he always ends up getting into these messes

LOL he's gonna end up thinking that he's been cursed by a gypsy or something at this rate! I swear that man has the worst luck ever, it's almost becoming a running joke that he's the Dragon Age fall boy!

[PizzaThe Hutt]

LolaLei wrote...

I think I'd be a bit put off of playing DA3 if the whole game was about war, firstly with the mages and Templars and then all of a sudden Orlais and Ferelden go to war against each other or the civil war in Orlais raged on, then finally the bloody Qunari attack and it was everyone against them. That would just be ridiculous, as it is I'm not keen on war games anyway lol.

I actually didn't think I'd like DA:O because of the Blight being a war so I was expecting your typical fantasy medieval war type thing, but I was proved wrong thank ****!

I think they're going to go with baby steps for the Dragon age universe instead of putting a bunch of wars together.  maybe the mage/templar war will be resolved at some point in the next game and after that it will usher in the next one.  Though one war after another does get tiring sometimes.

[PizzaThe Hutt]

LolaLei wrote...

Also, is anyone else concerned that Alistair might have an affair with the Queen of Orlais if you made him king (especially if you hardened him.) It didn't cross my mind until I found out that Cailan was having an affair with her... It wouldn't surprise me if she tried her luck with Alistair. That's another reason I kept him as a Warden LOL! I think I'd be genuinely annoyed if DG and co wrote that into one of the games, comics or novels.

I wouldn't be surprised if she tried tapping that.  Or if a cousland male was made king.  Sex can be used as another form of control with some people.

[LolaLei]

What if DA3 is just about the Templar/Mage war/rebellion and then that ends or reaches a peak and something epic happens, but then game ends and we have to wait until DA4 to do all the truly epic stuff with another new protagonist? That would be a bit of a cop out. As much as I want Cullen as a companion/LI, I'd rather save him for a DA game that will do him justice in the character stakes, I want him to be apart of it if the game is on par with their previous work, rather than something akin to DA2 in terms of story and lack of interaction etc.

[LolaLei]

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Also, is anyone else concerned that Alistair might have an affair with the Queen of Orlais if you made him king (especially if you hardened him.) It didn't cross my mind until I found out that Cailan was having an affair with her... It wouldn't surprise me if she tried her luck with Alistair. That's another reason I kept him as a Warden LOL! I think I'd be genuinely annoyed if DG and co wrote that into one of the games, comics or novels.

I wouldn't be surprised if she tried tapping that.  Or if a cousland male was made king.  Sex can be used as another form of control with some people.

So long as he tells her to go sod off... Unless he's ruling alone, in which case he can go for it. My Warden would murder both their arses if he cheated on her though LOL. Urgh man, I hope DG doesn't ever do that! It's my personal opinion that they shouldn't mess with romancable characters like that (especially in-game) because it ruins the players personal playthroughs. That's also why I feel that any possible love interest from the past two games shouldn't be companion's in DA3, too many variables and things that could go wrong, especially since the romance import flags seem to glitch a lot.

[PizzaThe Hutt]

LolaLei wrote...

What if DA3 is just about the Templar/Mage war/rebellion and then that ends or reaches a peak and something epic happens, but then game ends and we have to wait until DA4 to do all the truly epic stuff with another new protagonist? That would be a bit of a cop out. As much as I want Cullen as a companion/LI, I'd rather save him for a DA game that will do him justice in the character stakes, I want him to be apart of it if the game is on par with their previous work, rather than something akin to DA2 in terms of story and lack of interaction etc.

I seriously hope the next game isn't all about the Templars and Mages(and no throwing seekers into the mix does not help with things)  It would almost feel akin to smashing one's own head against a brick wall repeadtedly...

[LolaLei]

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

What if DA3 is just about the Templar/Mage war/rebellion and then that ends or reaches a peak and something epic happens, but then game ends and we have to wait until DA4 to do all the truly epic stuff with another new protagonist? That would be a bit of a cop out. As much as I want Cullen as a companion/LI, I'd rather save him for a DA game that will do him justice in the character stakes, I want him to be apart of it if the game is on par with their previous work, rather than something akin to DA2 in terms of story and lack of interaction etc.

I seriously hope the next game isn't all about the Templars and Mages(and no throwing seekers into the mix does not help with things)  It would almost feel akin to smashing one's own head against a brick wall repeadtedly...

LMAO! Throw in a whole party of broody companions talking about nothing but mages and Templars and I think you'd find me rocking in the fetal position an hour into the game!

Oh man, I hope they don't make Cullen all miserable and serious 24/7, I'll bloody murder knife him if all he's yaps on about is how bad mages are and how Templars deserve justice! 

[PizzaThe Hutt]

I hope that instead of making him into this broody little ******, they continue with this path he's on by making him more mature with a side dish of PTSD that he's trying to get over. Perhaps he could be that bro-ish character for the protagonist and maybe be the guy who tries to slap some sense into people. Which would be hilarious, imagine him shaking a blood mage by the collar telling him not to be an idiot hah...

[LolaLei]

I reckon if Tallis is a companion then we will definitely have some sort of Qunari issue happening in DA3, even if it's just a small one. Hang on, what if we got it wrong and the main plot in DA3 will actually be about a Qunari invasion?

[LolaLei]

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

I hope that instead of making him into this broody little ******, they continue with this path he's on by making him more mature with a side dish of PTSD that he's trying to get over. Perhaps he could be that bro-ish character for the protagonist and maybe be the guy who tries to slap some sense into people. Which would be hilarious, imagine him shaking a blood mage by the collar telling him not to be an idiot hah...

I'm hoping he'll have developed a sense of humour over the years to deal with the tough times, not to the extent of Awakening Anders or Alistair, but enough that we get a fair few Lols out of him. It would be nice to see him mellow out a bit with his extremely restrictive lifestyle... Of course that would happen gradually as he spent time in the company of the new protagonist and co once he's cleared out all the head mess and stuff. Wouldn't it be fun if he was quite impressionable, so we could encourage him to try new things, sometimes with hilarious results thanks to his lack of life experience outside of the order.

[PizzaThe Hutt]

Oh ****! Like if while the Templar/Mage thing is going on the Qunari take advantage of that and make their move. Though the way Asunder was written it almost seems like DA3 will be primarily focused on the T/M thing. Not to mention the seekers and chantry too.

Also with Tallis I don't really think that by the time she's featured(hopefully not) in DA3, she'll probably be considered Tal'Vashoth by that point so she probably wouldn't be Qunari by DA3. Though she may group up all the Tal'Vashoth and make her own kingdom mwahahaha but seriously, by this point the Qunari probably wouldn't have Tallis anywhere high on their priority list(like how they didn't care that Salit had a list of agents that he was willing to sell) so I doubt she's important Qunari-wise(tal'vashoth maybe) Besides, if anything, she really has no place in the main story line. Her place should be only in either comics or DLC, that's it.

[PizzaThe Hutt]

LolaLei wrote...

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

I hope that instead of making him into this broody little ******, they continue with this path he's on by making him more mature with a side dish of PTSD that he's trying to get over. Perhaps he could be that bro-ish character for the protagonist and maybe be the guy who tries to slap some sense into people. Which would be hilarious, imagine him shaking a blood mage by the collar telling him not to be an idiot hah...

I'm hoping he'll have developed a sense of humour over the years to deal with the tough times, not to the extent of Awakening Anders or Alistair, but enough that we get a fair few Lols out of him. It would be nice to see him mellow out a bit with his extremely restrictive lifestyle... Of course that would happen gradually as he spent time in the company of the new protagonist and co once he's cleared out all the head mess and stuff. Wouldn't it be fun if he was quite impressionable, so we could encourage him to try new things, sometimes with hilarious results thanks to his lack of life experience outside of the order.

Yeah like at the beginning of the game he could be restrictive but as the game goes on, he gets out of his shell a bit and gets a bit of humour and grows with the protagonist.

[LolaLei]

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

Oh ****! Like if while the Templar/Mage thing is going on the Qunari take advantage of that and make their move. Though the way Asunder was written it almost seems like DA3 will be primarily focused on the T/M thing. Not to mention the seekers and chantry too.

Also with Tallis I don't really think that by the time she's featured(hopefully not) in DA3, she'll probably be considered Tal'Vashoth by that point so she probably wouldn't be Qunari by DA3. Though she may group up all the Tal'Vashoth and make her own kingdom mwahahaha but seriously, by this point the Qunari probably wouldn't have Tallis anywhere high on their priority list(like how they didn't care that Salit had a list of agents that he was willing to sell) so I doubt she's important Qunari-wise(tal'vashoth maybe) Besides, if anything, she really has no place in the main story line. Her place should be only in either comics or DLC, that's it.

Good point, I forgot about Asunder and DotS. It wouldn't surprise me if Tallis is a companion in DA3 regardless of whether she seems out of place or not, especially since she's friends with the DA team and has her DA web series. I guess I wouldn't be that bothered if she was a companion, so long as she's not immune from insults and stuff, because in DA2 you couldn't even tell her off or be rude to her without her managing to out sass you.

[LolaLei]

That's a good idea! 'Cause at first he's bound to be wary and feel way out of his depth without the safety of his Templar routine (especially if the protagonist is a Mage or already has a Mage companion along with him/her.) Then gradually he'd start to let his guard down. Perhaps if you romance him then he seems much happier... For a while, until they stab the knife in and do something heartbreaking to him, evil Bioware!

[PizzaThe Hutt]

LolaLei wrote...

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

Oh ****! Like if while the Templar/Mage thing is going on the Qunari take advantage of that and make their move. Though the way Asunder was written it almost seems like DA3 will be primarily focused on the T/M thing. Not to mention the seekers and chantry too.

Also with Tallis I don't really think that by the time she's featured(hopefully not) in DA3, she'll probably be considered Tal'Vashoth by that point so she probably wouldn't be Qunari by DA3. Though she may group up all the Tal'Vashoth and make her own kingdom mwahahaha but seriously, by this point the Qunari probably wouldn't have Tallis anywhere high on their priority list(like how they didn't care that Salit had a list of agents that he was willing to sell) so I doubt she's important Qunari-wise(tal'vashoth maybe) Besides, if anything, she really has no place in the main story line. Her place should be only in either comics or DLC, that's it.

Good point, I forgot about Asunder and DotS. It wouldn't surprise me if Tallis is a companion in DA3 regardless of whether she seems out of place or not, especially since she's friends with the DA team and has her DA web series. I guess I wouldn't be that bothered if she was a companion, so long as she's not immune from insults and stuff, because in DA2 you couldn't even tell her off or be rude to her without her managing to out sass you.

I think I could tolerate her a little but I didn't really like her all that much because of her sassyness and not being able to tell her to sod off...  I mean, if I wanted a smartass on my team I would just ask for zevran back on the team.  Also, just because she knows a bunch of people doesn't mean she should get her way, It's Dragon Age, not Felicia Day the Game.  She might make a good rogue but I don't think I could stand her attitude for long before introducing her to my murder knife ... 

[PizzaThe Hutt]

LolaLei wrote...

That's a good idea! 'Cause at first he's bound to be wary and feel way out of his depth without the safety of his Templar routine (especially if the protagonist is a Mage or already has a Mage companion along with him/her.) Then gradually he'd start to let his guard down. Perhaps if you romance him then he seems much happier... For a while, until they stab the knife in and do something heartbreaking to him, evil Bioware!

Rawr!  Just imagine his sexytime music! *bites knuckle*

Anyways, I think I should be getting off now, have a good one!

[LolaLei]

Yeah that would be another concern that Tallis would get more attention than the rest of the companions by always having something to say about every little thing even if the quest or situation has no reason for her to say anything, or she'd be locked into more quests than everyone else and generally get more air time than the rest. But we'll see, we certainly need a rogue companion so chances are it'll be her. I wonder if she'd get on with Cassandra?

[LolaLei]

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That's a good idea! 'Cause at first he's bound to be wary and feel way out of his depth without the safety of his Templar routine (especially if the protagonist is a Mage or already has a Mage companion along with him/her.) Then gradually he'd start to let his guard down. Perhaps if you romance him then he seems much happier... For a while, until they stab the knife in and do something heartbreaking to him, evil Bioware!

Rawr!  Just imagine his sexytime music! *bites knuckle*

Anyways, I think I should be getting off now, have a good one!

LOL just imagine his sexy time scene!

Take it easy!