This is totally new as of the last few hours! Ironically, I was just looking at the structure of the DA:I forums around lunchtime, because I was going to make a joke about how they've separated "Suggestions and Feedback" into its own section ... presumably so they can summarily ignore those posts!! LOL
Yay!!
Ooooh, I think I'm second for likes on the Cullen thread, though I never intend to overtake R2.
Only because it's Mardi Gras and I've not been on as much *sniff*
I didn't mind FemHawke's walk so much as her toe twiddling while standing idle. Drove me mad.
I like to wear heels - I'm short and they make my legs look longer. Can't right now though - in marathon training and have to be careful of my feet.
Character threads? Hooray! Hope there's some news - anything! - soon. Always soon.
Did I miss anything?
man this thread has the most insane level of topic fluctuation I have ever witnessed!
Haha, I'd like that if you weren't such a genuine threat.
Mwhahaha!
*hand moves slowly towards like button.... Then slowly pulls back*
Hahaha, okay, I may have to admit that the toe thing sort of pissed me off as well...
Marathon, wow! Do you run them often?
This will be my second full marathon - I've run a ton of halfs though. The training is fun - I run with a group - but very tiring. I had to promise my family I wouldn't train over the summer again because I'm pretty much useless for anything else. It's hard to go on a super-fun hike in the afternoon after you've just run 29km!
Hmm... they should use ME for motion capture! 
LOL This made me laugh. As if Isabela leaves her house, and half way down the street, every day, says, "Balls, I forgot my pants AGAIN! Better luck tomorrow."
This will be my second full marathon - I've run a ton of halfs though. The training is fun - I run with a group - but very tiring. I had to promise my family I wouldn't train over the summer again because I'm pretty much useless for anything else. It's hard to go on a super-fun hike in the afternoon after you've just run 29km!
Hmm... they should use ME for motion capture!
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So you guys think we'll get a new char announcement the next day or so? I don't why they would make a new forum so far ahead of a new announcement. 
Lol, I liked reading about Mardi Grass, pancake day and the like. Here I am in hiding since friday, as it is carnaval here (and that involves dressing up like an idiot, horrible music and getting pissed in order to care less about the music)... I don't need an excuse for dressing up!
And the thread is going so fast! I have a hard time catching up each day (and usually I feel like there isn't anything useful I can add to the current discussions)
So you guys think we'll get a new char announcement the next day or so? I don't why they would make a new forum so far ahead of a new announcement.
I'm starting to think that more and more, yeah. Unless my first guess of elaborating on the Inquisitor's potential backgrounds was right.
Could be tomorrow, maybe? Apparently they like to pick Tuesdays, for whatever reason.
I'm starting to think that more and more, yeah. Unless my first guess of elaborating on the Inquisitor's potential backgrounds was right.
I'd love to know more on the Inquisitor's background options, that would be super useful for people that want to do fanfic/fan art/etc about it.
So you guys think we'll get a new char announcement the next day or so? I don't why they would make a new forum so far ahead of a new announcement.
Lol, I liked reading about Mardi Grass, pancake day and the like. Here I am in hiding since friday, as it is carnaval here (and that involves dressing up like an idiot, horrible music and getting pissed in order to care less about the music)... I don't need an excuse for dressing up!
And the thread is going so fast! I have a hard time catching up each day (and usually I feel like there isn't anything useful I can add to the current discussions)
I agree and disagree. Everything you said in your post is all good and true (some days I'm so sick of it I just want to throw up), but I feel that context is everything. Now, NORMALLY, the heroine (if there even was one) would run like that and be a sexy fantasy girl out killing stuff with her sexy fantasy girlfriends. This is bad, no question, and also the norm.
However, Bioware games aren't like that at all. Your Hawke can be any type of woman you desire. Your girlfriends are hard hitting bamfs or sexy pirates. I don't mind that run or Isabella forgetting her pants everyday, but that's because I get options. Women with variety (and not just "sexy sl*t*" or "sweet and innocent"). There are women in bioware games that are there to be desired, but there are also women there who aren't and they are treated equally (in game, not marketing).
That is perfect to me.
. Unless my kind was running the show *Wiggles eyebrows*
DA:O had it right, it was neutral enough for both genders.
I've seen a lot of people claim the female jog/run in DA:O was "manly". 
I mean what
She's just jogging. How are you supposed to "womanly" jog??
I think the best answer to that is: Mocap both male and female athletes walking/running.
I've seen a lot of people claim the female jog/run in DA:O was "manly".
I mean what
She's just jogging. How are you supposed to "womanly" jog??
I think the best answer to that is: Mocap both male and female athletes walking/running.
I didn't find my wardens walk/run manly exactly - it was more the way she held her arms while walking. At least to my eyes, it looked like she was doing 'gorilla arm stance' - which seems to me to be a bodybuilder guy thing.
Like this!
I'm putting out a disclaimer that I'm being friendly and not arguing or attacking because it may sound like it and that's not at all my intent
Oh I didn't felt like it was necessarily an "attack" I was just purely stating my own opinion on the matter from a different perspective
Yes the unrealistic portrayal of masculinity/femininity works against both genders but there are so many more ways to tell a women she isn't good enough simply because of the way our culture is set up. (This may be more specific to America then European countries, I'm not sure)
I agree with this, I use to think that Americans are more opened minded but I was kind of wrong in that regard. In Europe we don't really give a rats arse, I mean, for example, where ever there are beaches in Europe a lot of woman go topless and no one cares as opposed for example in the states where im sure most men would go nuts and act like they never seen a booob before lol.
Something important to consider as well is that even though some people do look at very sexualized characters and have the capacity to think "it's just a video game he's/ she's not real and regular people aren't like this" that doesn't mean it isn't damaging to women- especially young women and in a way how they portray women is damaging men (again young men more) as well because the things that they experience alter their perception of what is and is not acceptable when looking for a partner or evaluating themselves.
However, if you are releasing images of completely artificial photoshopped women that a real person has absolutely no chance of achieving -yeah people should call you out on it. The game Witcher, where you go around and everyone girl wants to automatically sleep with your male character-yeah not ok. People think these things don't effect everyday lives but they do. Many young guys end up thinking sex should be easy and women should be gorgeous and give them what they want, so some girls go and get plastic surgery or feel awful about how they look and hate themselves. I've had so many therapy sessions with girls who loathe everything about themselves because the just aren't "enough". They don't look right, they don't act right, they don't WALK right! It's unfair to blame these girls and say "Your just not comfortable with your sexuality" because in a world where they are beaten over the head with images of models, video game characters, comic book/anime heroines and celebrities how could they be? So they start altering how they act and walk and behave in general and when that isn't enough they go get plastic surgery! Now obviously this isn't how everyone reacts, some are totally fine and aren't bothered by the images and some people are furious at the injustice of it all! (Er...me lol!) or like a lot of my clients they feel less then.
I kind of agree to a carting extent, it is true that younger minds are somewhat affected by this, but this is pretty typical for young ppl. that crave attention. Although i do disagree at the same time, that it *does* have to do with being comfortable with yourself and accept yourself for who you are, and be unique in your own way.
And honestly no one is "beating" anyone with a bat and say that YOU HAVE TO LOOK THIS WAY OR NO ONE WILL LIKE YOU . Its just a selfconscious judgment that teenagers make for themselves because they haven't accepted themselves for who they are,(heck I should know I use to be the same way) and not because they are "forced" to do so by the media, because... I mean... if that was the case everyone would go on the rampage if ppl were to do everything thats on tv or in video games, the world would have been in chaos if the media was to be blamed.
And on a more personal note (as I have stated above) I use to be exactly like those teenage girls you have mentioned in your post, I didnt like my self one bit, but once you grow up you start to realize whats real and whats not, and what acceptance actually is, I didnt grew up thinking that "oh man if I want to be happy I must marry a rich man" or "hey if guys wanna like me I must get bigger breasts" I have came to piece with how I look and I dont have to copy any magazine girl in order to feel good about myself. Most stuff we see in games movies and magazines are pretty much make believe and obviously not real, and yes while its made to appeal the the human eye we don't necessarily have to copy everything we see thats where the term "fantasy" comes in
Something a lot of people don't realize is it works against people on a subconscious level as well. You made a good point because that's not saying culture doesn't do that to guys too- like how Edward Cullen is just oh so perfect and gorgeous and rich... or how female protagonists in YA books usually have multiple men fighting over them-that's just silly.
Back more to the original point, I think that if a woman doesn't like the way Hawke walks or doesn't like it when characters have double D breasts and a flat stomach with tiny hips - it doesn't mean she isn't comfortable with her sexuality... I think it just means she has a practical sense of "Well that's Cr@p!" And understands how unrealistic and silly that is Lol!
Yest it is silly but that is fiction not reality, Fiction is meant to be silly and overrated, but once again its up to the ppl to determine what is real and whats not, it doesn't mean that whatever is on TV everyone has to do it
Sorry If I sounded a bit mean , didnt mean too but Im just simply stating my point of view on things, and no im not saying that whatever I mention is right. To some ppl may not seem right but this is just how I view the situation...
Oh shoot I know your going to bed so I just missed ya but there's always tomorrow! I think I mentioned that bioware isn't as bad as others and I really love how strong your female lead can be (which is awesome and any game that does that is groovy) another thing that's cool is that for the most part female/male hawkers dialog stay the same right? Did you know when the wrote Alien Ripley was originally supposed to be a guy and they just decided to make her a woman. That's one of the reasons she is such a cool strong character, because they didn't change her into the more female approach. Except the pantie scene lol! I doubt they would have had a guy do that!
Now when you say that run do you mean how she actually runs or like run as in a play through? Because I'm mostly talking about how she walks which is way worse. If your Hawke runs all the time it's way easier to miss it.
Gah, the Alien panties scene drives me crazy. But, still, even half naked, Ripley kicks some serious butt. LOL
I literally have no concept of what Mardi Gras is, though I keep hearing about it on American TV shows. Is like our Pancake Day?
Yes, it's essentially the same thing... the last day before Lent starts. Here in the Kansas City area, we tend to celebrate Pancake Day.
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