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#76826
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Was it confirmed the elf was a companion? Because he could just be writing some random Dalish, or that Briala from the Masked Empire. Either way, I'd be happy with both of these characters being written by him, he's really funny, so I'm really hopeful his characters will be hilarious. (Ease the pain of romancing a Baldy)

 

It wasn't confirmed it was a companion, I don't think. So there's only a chance it's mystery elf, but it's something to keep in mind. It would be cool if we get to meet Briala, though, and given how Mr. Weekes wrote the Masked Empire I could see them letting him write her? 

 

Hmm...

 

I wish I could find the original tweet. He might have mentioned the gender of the character...



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On topic of romances, so far the elven companions in the main DA game were always LI (Zevran, Merrill and Fenris). This doesn't mean that the two elfs will surely be LI, though I think there are good chances.
I'm personally not interested in which companions will be LI though. I'm more interested in seeing the companions and their backstory.

 

I feel no shame in saying I care passionately who the LIs are :rolleyes: DG can come and make fun of me all he wants!

 

As for Baldy, I hope to god he's not a romance option, or else we have the option to help him grow a little hair :lol: It's like all my nightmares regarding those awful Fenris re-draws are coming true. *shivers*

 

 

I think it's a really good bet that the two elves will be LIs. The formula seems to be that there's one human LI for each gender, which is 'safe', and an LI from a different race which is a little bit different and has been elves so far. Mind you, we only have two games to judge from and two games don't really make a proper pattern. 

 

I do wonder if there won't be more than four LIs this time around, but some will be restricted by race. Possibly. Maybe. It just seems like a missed opportunity not having Iron Bull a romance option for qunari Inquisitors, I guess? (That's if he is even a companion, though I think there's a near 100% change he will be.)

 

*scratches chin, speculates*

 

 

I don't think there is a "formula" for romance options. DG has said that the romance grows from the writing. If it seems like it will benefit the story and that it "works" right, then the character becomes a romance option. It's not about who's attractive or who's an elf or what have you. And I believe him because I do believe he always puts the writing first, always.

 

Race restrictions would really bug me, though not as bad gender restrictions. People from two different races coming together in the name of true love (stop gagging, stay with me) is such a compelling aspect of a romance!


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#76828
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I don't think there is a "formula" for romance options. DG has said that the romance grows from the writing. If it seems like it will benefit the story and that it "works" right, then the character becomes a romance option. It's not about who's attractive or who's an elf or what have you. And I believe him because I do believe he always puts the writing first, always.

 

Race restrictions would really bug me, though not as bad gender restrictions. People from two different races coming together in the name of true love (stop gagging, stay with me) is such a compelling aspect of a romance!

 

Very, very true! I do think they'd go with whatever benefits the writing/feels right unless someone above their station decides otherwise. 

 

And don't get me wrong! I am all for no one giving a damn about race. My Shepard was totally a Garrus romancer, so race and things that are very different to myself don't bother me! :lol:

 

I was more just speculating on what the writers might decide/what some might think makes sense for the character. (Personally I'm hoping Iron Bull will be an option for one of my planned humans. Maybe my male rogue. I kind of find height differences adorable. c: )


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I don't think there is a "formula" for romance options. DG has said that the romance grows from the writing. If it seems like it will benefit the story and that it "works" right, then the character becomes a romance option. It's not about who's attractive or who's an elf or what have you. And I believe him because I do believe he always puts the writing first, always.

 

Race restrictions would really bug me, though not as bad gender restrictions. People from two different races coming together in the name of true love (stop gagging, stay with me) is such a compelling aspect of a romance!

I also think imagining there's a formula based on two games so far is risky, besides the writers' interest in telling a good story. The other thing we don't know is whether they'll include the non-follower romance ala ME3 this time, which could make for some interesting combinations. 

 

I'm torn on what to think about race restrictions. On one hand, they seem like a foolish thing to add because of the assumptions they make about who one would/should fall in love with, and BW seems way more savvy than that. On the other hand, we know that even in RL people CAN have their own preferences, and BW knows their characters better than we do.  This is besides the fact that I still don't see how a dwarf/qunari physical romance would proceed. :shrug: I suppose whatever BW does, it'll be the best solution, and regardless, some folks won't like it. :D  


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#76830
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Sheryl Chee ‏@SherylChee 

Character theme Friday:

 

 

 

On a different note... ganked this from the twitter thread!

 

I wonder who's theme it is~



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On a different note... ganked this from the twitter thread!
 
I wonder who's theme it is~

having just seen this on tumblr, this is who I imagine. :P  
 
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(art source: http://psdo.tumblr.c...ost/62467369379)
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#76832
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On a different note... ganked this from the twitter thread!

 

I wonder who's theme it is~

 

 

My Inquisitor's theme, LOL! 

 

See, now I'm imagining Iron Bull wearing leathers on a big motorbike cruising through Thedas!


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#76833
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My Inquisitor's theme, LOL! 

 

See, now I'm imagining Iron Bull wearing leathers on a big motorbike cruising through Thedas!

 

Sounds legit.  :lol:

 

Ignoring the obvious rock, though, the song does have some interesting lyrics:

 

I went down to the crossroads, fell down on my knee.
I went down to the crossroads, fell down on my knee.
Asked the Lord above for mercy, "Save me if you please."
 
I went down to the crossroads, tried to flag a ride.
Down to the crossroads, tried to flag a ride.
Nobody seemed to know me, everybody passed by.
 
I'm going down to Rosedale, take my rider by my side.
Going down to Rosedale, take my rider by my side.
You can still 'barrelhouse', baby, on the riverside.
 
Going down to Rosedale, take my rider by my side.
Going down to Rosedale, take my rider by my side.
You can still 'barrelhouse', baby, on the riverside.
 
You can run, you can run, tell my friend-boy Willie Brown.
You can run, you can run, tell my friend-boy Willie Brown.
And I'm standing at the crossroads, believe I'm sinking down.


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Yeah, it could pass for a Cullen one... possibly.



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I hope that if Cullen is an LI that DG wrote him. That could just be me, I just like his ideas :-)
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@Lola, DnD today? And is someone recording it? Cause I'll probably be on a plane when it's happening.

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@Lola, DnD today? And is someone recording it? Cause I'll probably be on a plane when it's happening.

 

Yup, it'll be happening this evening. Both Scottish and LadyInsanity always record it, so you'll find it on either of there channels, I think we'll be doing some ESO tonight too.



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Am I right in saying that "Falling Slowly" from Once is a theme song for a companion? If it is...oh god. 

 

 

Man, I was more furious and pissed off when I finally did that particular story run. Really, Bioware? There's no option for Shepard to be pissed and say she was under no obligation to stay 'loyal' after the crap Kaidan pulled and that she considered the relationship done right then and there? Instead she can only act like she was in the wrong? What kind of sexist bullcrap is that?!  

 

Oh wait, it's about as sexist as Joker became with all his "I need EDI's new hot bod in my line of sight to be able to work well. Hurr hurr." 

 

So annoyed I couldn't call people out on that crap!

 

...Um, don't mind my raging. I return you to your scheduled convo.   :lol:

 

I KNOW! Y'all know I was a pretty big Joker fan, and for that to happen?!! 

 

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Then Kaidan... :rolleyes: and then JACOB.

JACOB.  :angry:

 

At least in the Citadel DLC I can b!tch slap him. 8[



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Man, I was more furious and pissed off when I finally did that particular story run. Really, Bioware? There's no option for Shepard to be pissed and say she was under no obligation to stay 'loyal' after the crap Kaidan pulled and that she considered the relationship done right then and there? Instead she can only act like she was in the wrong? What kind of sexist bullcrap is that?!  

 

Oh wait, it's about as sexist as Joker became with all his "I need EDI's new hot bod in my line of sight to be able to work well. Hurr hurr." 

 

So annoyed I couldn't call people out on that crap!

 

...Um, don't mind my raging. I return you to your scheduled convo.   :lol:

Yeah, I was rather upset with the way things were handled with Kaidan. I mean, seriously, "I understand why you cheated on me"?? Maybe it's just me, but the message he sends after Horizon made it seem pretty clear he was breaking it off with Shepard. 3 points in the message rather emphasize that for me: 1) I went out with a doctor (although he then states it didn't mean anything), 2) It's been 2 years and things have changed, 3) when this is all over we'll see... maybe... Geesh I guess Shepard was supposed to realize that that was Kaidanspeak for "Wait for me while I figure this out". :rolleyes:

 

As for BioWare writing a LI that is race specific, they have done it before. In Baldur's Gate 2, Anomen (the only romance for a female Baalspawn) would only romance a human, elf, or half-elf. However, given the direction they've been moving lately, it seems unlikely that they'd do this in Inquisition.


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#76840
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Am I right in saying that "Falling Slowly" from Once is a theme song for a companion? If it is...oh god. 

 

 

 

I KNOW! Y'all know I was a pretty big Joker fan, and for that to happen?!! 

 

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Then Kaidan... :rolleyes: and then JACOB.

JACOB.  :angry:

 

At least in the Citadel DLC I can b!tch slap him. 8[

 

Excuse me while I steal that incredibly fitting gif.  :lol:


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Hey everybody, hope all is well!

 

Just playing catch up here: That Crossroads song, I could definitely see for Cullen. Yes, what a surprise, right? But srsly, I think it could fit his experiences. I also think it could work for Iron Bull because of the survey leak and all that stuff abt how he had to come to a cross roads--"old loyalties die hard" and all that.

 

Although, seeing as how we don't really know who the companions even are-except for those cass, viv and varric, uh, it could be anybody, doing anything. I guess. Tbh, tho, I'd love to see Cullen going thru a crossraods things.

 

Idk how  they're gonna handle the non human romances. I mean, what if you're a male qunari? Who you gonna love on? Or a male dwarf? I could see race specific if you were playing a female qunari/dwarf, you could then romance iron bull or varric. But that wouldn't work for the male versions. sooo, yeah. I hope there are 6 li's, too.



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Ah, and femshep romances...sigh. It did seem she was fighting an uphill battle with all that.



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I hope that if Cullen is an LI that DG wrote him. That could just be me, I just like his ideas :-)

me, too. I'm sure I won't be disappointed if the other writers do his romance arc. I'm really pleased w/the writers they have working on this game. But Gaider has this...special ingredient..that he puts into his romances. Idk wat it is, but it works for me. It's strange cuz  it seems as tho he doesn't really care for doing the romances, and all that, yet--so far--his romances are my favorites.

 

Figures.


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#76844
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Am I right in saying that "Falling Slowly" from Once is a theme song for a companion? If it is...oh god.

I don't recall hearing this, but if it is... agree, wow... *sniff*sniff*

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I don't recall hearing this, but if it is... agree, wow... *sniff*sniff*

Well,it wouldn't be something unexpected...After all,it wouldn't be the first a bioware character breaks our heart and revels in our tears.


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#76846
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Hmm, interesting to hear different perspectives. Playing a M!Shep, when Kaiden was pretty much my only option, it felt all tortured and romantic that Shepard waited for him (cause he had to LOL), so when they met again in ME3, it was like, squee-tastic. And then Kaiden was all, I'm so mad at you! And Shep was all, You can hit me if you want, if it makes you feel better, babe <3 And I was like, I'm so dead *drowns in fangirl puddle* (No he did not really say that, but that's basically how the relationship went!)

 

But Joker, yes, ughghgh, the one guy who has the closest relationship with Shepard, I mean, I was really feeling something between them as I played through the trilogy back to back. I would have preferred him over Kaiden, much as I loved the Kaiden romance. Then to make him fall in "love" with the stupid robot was just... frickin lame. And a slap in the face to his fans.

 

Now that I think about it, the Kaiden romance is very similar to the Fenris romance; no wonder I love it :lol:

 

That said, I'm hoping for more mature romances in DA:I; I definitely don't want Cullen to get all huffy and walk away from the romance while my inquisitor twiddles his thumbs and waits for him to come crawling back. Ditto with the other two LIs I'm hoping to get, IB and Beardy. All three are mature individuals, no dramz please!



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Hmm, interesting to hear different perspectives. Playing a M!Shep, when Kaiden was pretty much my only option, it felt all tortured and romantic that Shepard waited for him (cause he had to LOL), so when they met again in ME3, it was like, squee-tastic. And then Kaiden was all, I'm so mad at you! And Shep was all, You can hit me if you want, if it makes you feel better, babe <3 And I was like, I'm so dead *drowns in fangirl puddle* (No he did not really say that, but that's basically how the relationship went!)

 

But Joker, yes, ughghgh, the one guy who has the closest relationship with Shepard, I mean, I was really feeling something between them as I played through the trilogy back to back. I would have preferred him over Kaiden, much as I loved the Kaiden romance. Then to make him fall in "love" with the stupid robot was just... frickin lame. And a slap in the face to his fans.

 

Now that I think about it, the Kaiden romance is very similar to the Fenris romance; no wonder I love it :lol:

 

That said, I'm hoping for more mature romances in DA:I; I definitely don't want Cullen to get all huffy and walk away from the romance while my inquisitor twiddles his thumbs and waits for him to come crawling back. Ditto with the other two LIs I'm hoping to get, IB and Beardy. All three are mature individuals, no dramz please!

That kinda makes me wish there were more than 4 LI's tbh,I'd like to romance IB with my qunari rogue...But oh well,I have a hunch that he won't a romance option for some reason.



#76848
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Well, usually I'd say, the more LIs the merrier! But think about how much better the romances are in DA games as opposed to ME games. You just get so much more interaction in DA games. I mean hell companions get unique quests. I recall ME3 going on, and up until lunch time confession, which is towards the end of the game, I had no idea if I was even going to get to romance Kaiden at all (thought I'd messed it up). Then once he and Shepard had the conversation, where they agreed to date, I thought, here we go, yay! Then... nothing. I thought AGAIN I'd screwed it up. Even when I go to talk to him it's just random crap, not romance related. Finally the game is nearly over, and he comes over for a shag. Okay, great. Good to know this is still on.

 

Whereas in DA:O and DA2, your LI is your constant companion (if you want him/her to be); there are individual quests related to that companion, there are long drawn out conversations to have with him/her, and if you bring the LI with you, s/he will comment on various quests.

 

So in that sense I think it's better to have 4 great LI then 6+ so-so romances.



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Hmm, interesting to hear different perspectives. Playing a M!Shep, when Kaiden was pretty much my only option, it felt all tortured and romantic that Shepard waited for him (cause he had to LOL), so when they met again in ME3, it was like, squee-tastic. And then Kaiden was all, I'm so mad at you! And Shep was all, You can hit me if you want, if it makes you feel better, babe <3 And I was like, I'm so dead *drowns in fangirl puddle* (No he did not really say that, but that's basically how the relationship went!)

 

But Joker, yes, ughghgh, the one guy who has the closest relationship with Shepard, I mean, I was really feeling something between them as I played through the trilogy back to back. I would have preferred him over Kaiden, much as I loved the Kaiden romance. Then to make him fall in "love" with the stupid robot was just... frickin lame. And a slap in the face to his fans.

 

Now that I think about it, the Kaiden romance is very similar to the Fenris romance; no wonder I love it :lol:

 

That said, I'm hoping for more mature romances in DA:I; I definitely don't want Cullen to get all huffy and walk away from the romance while my inquisitor twiddles his thumbs and waits for him to come crawling back. Ditto with the other two LIs I'm hoping to get, IB and Beardy. All three are mature individuals, no dramz please!

Oh don't get me wrong... Kaidan is my goto romance for ME <3 , it's just the way they handled things if you decide to romance someone else in ME2.

 

But relationships in games would be pretty bland if there wasn't at least some drama, IMO. And I can definitely see it occurring between my Magequisitor and Cullen. :whistle:  :lol:


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Actually, first time I played ME3, thought I'd screwed up the romance so badly that I even went to meet Steve at the club, and even though it felt wrong, I hit on him... and he told Shep he didn't want to come between him and Kaiden! I was like, wow, okay... so they're dating? Yes? No? WHY WON'T KAIDEN TALK TO HIM THEN? Urghgh.


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