sorry to interrupt the convo but I noticed you guys sayd something about white/ black chantries I didnt know there were 2 kinds... or was that some sort of a metaphor?
Also did the devs said that what happen in asunder will be recognized in the game? Because the previous 2 books and comics weren't
I believe the overall Asunder events will be recognised, but there'll be slight changes depending on the world state of your game. (Wynne being alive verse dead for example.)
What the...? Who the heck is that? New writer on the team??
I imagine she's just writing the book and not actually writing anything for the game...?
I just hate the notion of all this being forced to remain mysterious. I want to know every last truth behind the Chantry and the Maker.
I imagine she's just writing the book and not actually writing anything for the game...?
Kinda like an official fanfic, lol.
I just hate the notion of all this being forced to remain mysterious. I want to know every last truth behind the Chantry and the Maker.
I don't know, I like the idea of the religion aspects remaining partly mysterious. Especially when there's a huge difference between, say, the Chantry and the religion itself, and I would personally hate to see the religion and Maker, for example, made into something ultimately bad like I've seen quite a number of people demand.
I don't think it'd be that big a deal if it's not a BioWare writer writing something.
I loved Richard A. Knaak's Sin Wars Trilogy (Diablo books) and I don't think he was a writer.
Then there's all the various Forgotten Realms books by R. A. Salvatore, and a bunch of stuff by a whole bunch of other people.
But if it's not by anyone on the team, would it still be considered part of the lore, or just playing around with it and non-canon?
I'M SOUNDING THE ALARM. CULLENITES, WE HAVE A NEW DA BOOK ON THE HORIZON
Dragon Age: Last Flight
-coming out on August 12, 2014
-and it might explain what's going on with the Wardens!!
I thought it was supposedly set during the Fourth Blight, so no bearing on DA:I. That being said... seems a bit fishy that there's no other info on it, other than a stealth amazon listing. Hmm...
Kinda like an official fanfic, lol.
What happened with... I think quite a lot of the Mass Effect books? Though there was a bit of rage around at least one of them because the writer was a Douche McGee and not only turned a canonically gay character into a sleaze bag womanising sexist but also killed him off. 
I thought it was supposedly set during the Fourth Blight, so no bearing on DA:I. That being said... seems a bit fishy that there's no other info on it, other than a stealth amazon listing. Hmm...
Well, if she's done it without permission then I'm sure EA will have something to say about it, LOL!
And I would be surprised if the seekers didn't already know about how Templars don't REALLY need lyrium to use their abilities and the like-- unless that's changed since DA:O.
They do need lyrium, according to DG. They can still use them for a while without, but eventually they'd lose access to their skills without lyrium.
I don't know, I like the idea of the religion aspects remaining partly mysterious. Especially when there's a huge difference between, say, the Chantry and the religion itself, and I would personally hate to see the religion and Maker, for example, made into something ultimately bad like I've seen quite a number of people demand.
Well, I see it as bad already and little will change that, at least every interpretation I've seen thus far except maybe Anders'. However, I strongly disagree that religion should be kept "mysterious;" I don't even really understand why religious people promote this sort of thing IRL, as one would logically think that if you believe in something, you'd love to see it actually proven right and being vindicated. But aside from that, I don't believe in keeping any information shrouded, especially the "big questions" like this.
Well, if she's done it without permission then I'm sure EA will have something to say about it, LOL!
LOL One would think. :shrug: I'm all for them recruiting writers to add to the lore canon, and they could just do what Star Wars did with Extended Universe, and keep track of it. I guess it just seems odd to me that with all the chatter about the DA books and wanting MOAR MOAR, you'd think we'd have heard, "Don't worry, there's another one coming in August!! Huzzah!"
Well, I see it as bad already and little will change that, at least every interpretation I've seen thus far except maybe Anders'. However, I strongly disagree that religion should be kept "mysterious;" I don't even really understand why religious people promote this sort of thing IRL, as one would logically think that if you believe in something, you'd love to see it actually proven right and being vindicated. But aside from that, I don't believe in keeping any information shrouded, especially the "big questions" like this.
It's your right to interpret it as bad, of course, but to answer a question like 'what is the Maker' and such things in a game would require either to make him an evil force or a good one. Keeping that question unanswered leaves people able to stick with their interpretations whether that be good, bad, or neutral.
I, personally, see the Chantry as a problem as are their interpretations of the Chant of Light, but spirituality and the belief in the Maker itself is not necessarily bad. Leliana has a rather nice interpretation of her faith that differs from what the Chantry teachers for example.
Unless Amazon pooped up again and it wasn't supposed to be posted yet.
Well, I see it as bad already and little will change that, at least every interpretation I've seen thus far except maybe Anders'. However, I strongly disagree that religion should be kept "mysterious;" I don't even really understand why religious people promote this sort of thing IRL, as one would logically think that if you believe in something, you'd love to see it actually proven right and being vindicated. But aside from that, I don't believe in keeping any information shrouded, especially the "big questions" like this.
I highly doubt they'll ever do that, though, since it seems that allowing faith to be faith is one of the tenets they used to build the world. DG has talked about it several times, most recently on his tumblr.
They do need lyrium, according to DG. They can still use them for a while without, but eventually they'd lose access to their skills without lyrium.
Ah, I see, I see! Still, it proves that they could have lyrium a lot less often than the Chantry has them believe?
Unless Amazon pooped up again and it wasn't supposed to be posted yet.
LOL Yeah... so far, this interpretation seems most plausible to me. 
The author's previous two books only got 3 and 4 stars, so I'm not sure. Hopefully there will be an excerpt available. There's a lot of shoddy writing out there when it comes to fantasy serials; some of the worst books I ever read were those Dragonlance books. I've also read a couple Star Trek novels, not worth your time, trust me LOL But I hate to pre-judge her; I'm sure if the team selected her then she's the right person for the job.
I just wish it was one of the writers. I hate the thought of them shopping out their novels. It decreases my desire to read them. I love DA for the amazing writing.
Ah, I see, I see! Still, it proves that they could have lyrium a lot less often than the Chantry has them believe?
Could be. It still raises some questions about Alistair's templar abilities, suggesting that despite his protestations I guess he must have had a least a little lyrium in order to the learn the abilities in the first place.
I could still see lyrium being a source of control, like you say, that the Chantry/Order would *prefer* that they remain addicted. I wonder if how much lyrium you take would affect, say, how powerful your smites are or whatever. Maybe there's a chemical reason for the doses to be addiction-level.
The author's previous two books only got 3 and 4 stars, so I'm not sure. Hopefully there will be an excerpt available. There's a lot of shoddy writing out there when it comes to fantasy serials; some of the worst books I ever read were those Dragonlance books. I've also read a couple Star Trek novels, not worth your time, trust me LOL But I hate to pre-judge her; I'm sure if the team selected her then she's the right person for the job.
I just wish it was one of the writer's. I hate the thought of them shopping out their novels. It decreases my desire to read them. I love DA for the amazing writing.
Heavens this reminds me of this one fantasy novel I picked up and it had just terrible characters and descriptions. The main character was the 'left hand of God' and was a thirteen year old who could beat, and I quote, '10 full grown men unarmed while they carried weaponry', and he was the grossest of mary sues you had ever laid eyes on. And one of the secondary characters was described as having more developed muscle on his left than his right, and how the author describe it conjured the STRANGEST mental images. 
It's your right to interpret it as bad, of course, but to answer a question like 'what is the Maker' and such things in a game would require either to make him an evil force or a good one. Keeping that question unanswered leaves people able to stick with their interpretations whether that be good, bad, or neutral.
I, personally, see the Chantry is a problem as are the interpretations of the chant of light, but spirituality and the belief in the Maker is not necessarily bad. Leliana has a rather nice interpretation of her faith that differs from what the Chantry teachers for example.
There's also so many theories they'd have to pick one, if they haven't decided on something already behind the scenes.
I know I read that Gaider doesn't like it when worlds, like Forgotten Realms, have irrefutable evidence of the existance of gods.
Personally, I like worlds that do. But this series is similar to real world things, with their faith and their theories, and it's tied too much into the world in such a way that it defines alot of the world. It'd shake up things pretty big and get rid of one of the things that defines the series, I'd think. If they did decide to answer anything big, I bet it wouldn't be in the current age.
I highly doubt they'll ever do that, though, since it seems that allowing faith to be faith is one of the tenets they used to build the world. DG has talked about it several times, most recently on his tumblr.
That is, in my opinion, a grossly cowardly and annoying answer.
LOL One thing to keep in mind is that the first time DA did this, the first DA graphic novel was written THE Orson Scott Card. Ahem. And let's just say that many folks deem it, erm, unworthy. 
So, just sayin', it could still be awesome. If it's real.
Could be. It still raises some questions about Alistair's templar abilities, suggesting that despite his protestations I guess he must have had a least a little lyrium in order to the learn the abilities in the first place.
I could still see lyrium being a source of control, like you say, that the Chantry/Order would *prefer* that they remain addicted. I wonder if how much lyrium you take would affect, say, how powerful your smites are or whatever. Maybe there's a chemical reason for the doses to be addiction-level.
It's interesting to think about, and it would make logical sense? More lyrium... more power. At the same time, though, I could see it not making a difference at all, and it just being about control. That's thinking about the Chantry doing one of their 'we're extreme dicks' things, though.
That is, in my opinion, a grossly cowardly and annoying answer.
LOL His? Or mine?
In my opinion, I hope they never explain it. Not being faithful myself, I adore the notion of it in Thedas. I like that there are open questions and contradictions between the creation myths between religions. And, like L Xendria said, I think these open questions underpin much of the world state in Thedas. I personally think it would lose something if Andraste suddenly showed up in Hawke's kitchen one day to explain how, yes, she was a mage, and BTW, the Maker was a fantastic lay.
So there you go, one more annoying answer. 
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