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[LolaLei]

Yeah, the fact that he runs away if you try your luck suggests that nothing had ever happened between them.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2: If it was a sarcastic protagonist it would probably go something like this:


Protagonist: "Cullen! What have I told you about pestering the nice Orlesian ladies! I'm so sorry Madam, he gets a little... Over excited sometimes, I bet he's forgotten to take his meds again. Cullen have you taken your meds?"
Cullen: "My meds? Wha..."
Protagonist: *Gives him "The Look"* "Forgive him, the boy is a little bit... "special" *nudges Cullen in the ribs*"
Cullen: *Gives protagonist a look of daggers* "Their coming for me mother... The spiders, in the cupboard... They want to eat my eyes! Beep beep! I'm a nug!... *Drools*"
Noble woman: *Looks confused and slightly disturbed*
Protagonist: "Come along now dear, let's get you home" *Takes his arm*
Cullen: Yay! *Allows himself to be lead away until they're out of ear shot*
Cullen: "Sweet blood of Andraste protagonist "he's a little bit special"?! Was that really the best you could come up with?!
Protagonist: "I could always leave you in her... Capable hands, I'm sure she'd take great delight in tucking you into bed..."
Cullen: "NO! ... *Ahem*... No, thank you... *Sigh* I need a drink, Maker preserve me."

Gah, poor Cullen! LOL  I could almost see him drawing the line at something like playing the fool. Either doing it badly, or just... walking away and opting out. For all the stammering, I could see him actually being rather proud.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Yeah, the fact that he runs away if you try your luck suggests that nothing had ever happened between them.

Yes, that, too.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

You know there was that hidden unused dialogue file for Cullen that had various lines like battle cries, agree/disagree dialogue etc, suggesting he was going to be a temporary companion at some point? It makes me wonder if perhaps the original plan was for him to aid us in Jowan's escape quest whilst we were still in the Circle? Maybe we would have been able to talk him into helping us, or sweet talking him into it if you were female? I imagine that would have cost him his job, so it's just as well that they decided to keep him as a full NPC in DA:O really, otherwise we might have completely lost him forever!

Hmm, you know, I have no idea! I'd never realized that he might have been a temp companion, but that would make sense since that's the only thing you do in the mage origin. I suppose it could have been possible to take him as a temp companion in to face Uldred. I was always kinda bummed that I had to leave him behind in that cage.

[LolaLei]

R2: LOL, yeah really he'd probably be like:

"Y-You want to do WHAT?! Excuse me madam, but would you be so kind to UNHAND me... This instant!" *Storms off to find the protagonist to have a rant about the cheek of some people*

[LolaLei]

Oooo I'd forgotten about the broken circle quest, yeah maybe he was supposed to come in with us and end up in the Fade helping us as a temp character. He wouldn't have been stuck in the nightmare with the other companion's because his will was too strong to fool for its tricks.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

R2: LOL, yeah really he'd probably be like:

"Y-You want to do WHAT?! Excuse me madam, but would you be so kind to UNHAND me... This instant!" *Storms off to find the protagonist to have a rant about the cheek of some people*

LOL Or, the PC is like, "Cullen, what happened? You were doing so well..." and then he lays into PC about putting him in that position. "There are certain lines that should not be crossed and are there for a reason..." blah blah.

If the PC is his LI, then he/she counters with, "You're right. I'm sorry.  I guess I should have done it myself. I'd probably already be back in the noble's room by now..."

Cullen makes several unintelligible sounds and then finally through gritted teeth, says, "Fine. No , I will do it." and storms off to talk to the noble again.



Gah, I hope they have a ball. How much fun would it be?

[LolaLei]

LMAO! I could totally see that sort of convo happening between them! Ah man a masquerade ball would be so awesome! Hopefully we'll get to pick the outfit this time, so those that want a pants suit can have one and those who want a dress can have one too. DG said he wanted a ball with dancing, so there's a good chance that we'll get one.

... I wonder what the Dragon Age equivalent of the Shepard shuffle will look like?

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Oooo I'd forgotten about the broken circle quest, yeah maybe he was supposed to come in with us and end up in the Fade helping us as a temp character. He wouldn't have been stuck in the nightmare with the other companion's because his will was too strong to fool for its tricks.

ah, interesting! You could find out what really happened when the Circle fell as you trek along. Although, it sorta lessens the impact of finding him in that cage if you meet him much earlier. Maybe during the mage origin makes more sense...

Or... heh, just thought of this. He doesn't come with you into the Fade... you run into him while you're in the Fade and get to witness him facing the varying torments from the demons... You save him and bring him along with you... but at the end, when he "wakes up" from the Fade, he's finally released from his nightmares and the torture, but he still wakes up physically inside the cage. Then, your convo with him right before Uldred is mostly the same.

[LolaLei]

That would have worked well! Maybe that was the original idea or something?

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

That would have worked well! Maybe that was the original idea or something?

You know, I could almost imagine that, now. After all, how many other "dreamers" are left in the Circle Tower? And we did run into Niall... That would make a cool mod.

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

That would have worked well! Maybe that was the original idea or something?

You know, I could almost imagine that, now. After all, how many other "dreamers" are left in the Circle Tower? And we did run into Niall... That would make a cool mod.

That would make an awesome mod! 

[brushyourteeth]

Some comedic GOLD on the last two pages, let me just say!!

And Lola, why aren't you writing fanfic? You are so clever! Seriously, I'd read and up-rate anything you wrote -- even something just short like a few collections of your dialogues!
*nudge nudge* 

Xilizhra wrote...

My own Surana barely acknowledged that Cullen even existed; he was a templar and not raping anyone, so there wasn't much else to be interested in.

I have to agree with this completely - at least with my Amell (only elf origin I never played... oops). She was probably getting all the action she wanted around the tower anyway, and would never have considered a Templar to be worth romancing. They're either the enemy or they're part of of the scenery - like furniture. Not something to be fancied. Maybe, just maybe someone who was fun to mess with if she felt like making some inappropriate advances, but if he'd called her bluff she'd have been out of there! She was truly shocked to discover the level of his attachment when she found him purple-bubbled at the top of the Tower later.

[LolaLei]

D'awww shucks.

I did start to write one for in here, but my computer corrupted the file just as I was nearly finished so it put me off until I can get a better computer. I might try again for the 400 post mark maybe?

[R2s Muse]

brushyourteeth wrote...

And Lola, why aren't you writing fanfic? You are so clever! Seriously, I'd read and up-rate anything you wrote -- even something just short like a few collections of your dialogues!
*nudge nudge* 

Second this...

[LolaLei]

I always get stumped when it comes to the layout of the thing itself. Should the quoted dialogue be in with the bulk of the paragraph or on their own separate paragraphs like I did up there with the Cullen/Noble woman/Protagonist thing?

[Minttymint]

LolaLei wrote...

I always get stumped when it comes to the layout of the thing itself. Should the quoted dialogue be in with the bulk of the paragraph or on their own separate paragraphs like I did up there with the Cullen/Noble woman/Protagonist thing?

Seperate paragraphs.

[Lonaargh]

Just wondering, am I allowed to shamelessly promote my own Cullen fanfics here? > I'm halfway through reading all these posts (310 pages.. dear Maker..) so I'll try to make sensible posts after that

[R2s Muse]

Lonaargh wrote...

Just wondering, am I allowed to shamelessly promote my own Cullen fanfics here? > I'm halfway through reading all these posts (310 pages.. dear Maker..) so I'll try to make sensible posts after that

Heck yeah! And, I'll throw in a  plug as well... was enjoying your latest chapters of I am .... Hawke! I haven't fully caught up yet... but loved them!  Fun Cullen x Hawke story, for anyone needing more Culleny reading material.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 13 août 2012 - 12:55 .

[R2s Muse]

MinttyMint wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I always get stumped when it comes to the layout of the thing itself. Should the quoted dialogue be in with the bulk of the paragraph or on their own separate paragraphs like I did up there with the Cullen/Noble woman/Protagonist thing?

Seperate paragraphs.

Yeah, whenever a new speaker speaks, they get a  new paragraph. Otherwise, I'd say follow the regular rules for paragraphs. Keep the stuff that goes together, together; which can include dialogue and prose.

Those were some of the things I got caught on when I first started writing. I'd done so much reading I had a sort of idea in my head how it all worked, but once I started putting it on the page, it was the nuts and bolts that suddenly I had to pay closer attention to. There are lots of quick resources for brushing up on that, tho. Like, here's one on punctuating dialogue, and another good one on avoiding "creative dialogue syndrome."

[Lonaargh]

Ohh, thank you for those links from me too. I have formatting and grammar problems as well

Also, tnx for the plug

[R2s Muse]

For fun....  here's one way you could do it...

"Cullen plays the fool" by LolaLei (with translation by R2s Muse):


Protagonist approached the couple on the dance floor. "Cullen! What have I told you about pestering the nice Orlesian ladies! I'm so sorry, Madam, he gets a little... over excited sometimes. I bet he's forgotten to take his meds again. Cullen, have you taken your meds?"

Cullen blinked at her in surprise. "My meds? Wha..."

Protagonist gave him “the look” hoping the clueless templar would catch up one of these days. She gave the noble a broad grin. “Forgive him, the boy is a little bit... special," she said smoothly while discreetly nudging him in the ribs.

Cullen looked daggers at Protagonist, but when he turned back to the noble he obediently adopted a vacuous look in his eye. “They’re coming for me mother... The spiders, in the cupboard...” he suddenly babbled in an almost sing-song voice. “They want to eat my eyes! Beep beep! I'm a nug!...” He gave the noble a lopsided smile and expertly let a trickle of drool slip out of the corner of his mouth.

The noble woman’s eyes widened in confusion and started to dart around the room as if looking for an escape.

“Come along now, dear. Let’s get you home,” Protagonist said in a kindly voice, taking his arm.

“Yay!” Cullen said, letting himself be led away until they were out of ear shot. "Sweet blood of Andraste, Protagonist. He's a little bit special? Was that really the best you could come up with?”

Protagonist chuckled. "I could always leave you in her... capable hands. I'm sure she'd take great delight in tucking you into bed..."

"NO! ... *Ahem*... No, thank you...” He sighed. “I need a drink. Maker preserve me."

Modifié par R2s Muse, 13 août 2012 - 01:59 .

[R2s Muse]

Lonaargh wrote...

Ohh, thank you for those links from me too. I have formatting and grammar problems as well

Also, tnx for the plug

My pleasure! And, yeah, I know what you mean. It's amazing how those grammar muscles need to be exercised like anything else. My biggest issue is commas. Argh!

And, also, don't be too shy to just jump right in! Pretty impressive that you'll attempt to read all 310!! Wow!

[Lonaargh]

Well, I've had a bit of a sneaky headstart because I have been lurching here a lot after DA2 came out. So I just have to read about 200 pages instead of 310!
But it's not that bad really, a lot of images and jokes and information in those pages that I wouldn't want to miss!

Also, commas are an useful evil. I always end up throwing them everywhere

Modifié par Lonaargh, 13 août 2012 - 01:56 .

[LolaLei]

Yay new people!!