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#81726
Lorien19

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Chenria Now colored Woop! GIMME!

Love it!Too bad I have no likes left...


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rapscallioness

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After seeing those vids, my desire for Cullen as intensified at an alarming rate.



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Chiantirose82

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On a pro-templar run. I have several of them, but I always spare the 3 Mages and never let my siblings get killed. Never had problem with doing them, I wanted to see the different outcome (Also you get a achievement from it ... so yeah)


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I have a few Likes left. I'm sharing them sum of them now.

 

teehee..."Like"! :bandit: The Like Button GrandMaster NiiiinnnJaaaahhh!



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On a pro-templar run. I have several of them, but I always spare the 3 Mages and never let my siblings get killed. Never had problem with doing them, I wanted to see the different outcome (Also you get a achievement from it ... so yeah)

I think I'm gonna try it. All the way. There are gonna be sum rough patches, I think , but---for Science I can do this.


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#81731
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ooo I'm trying this new beta forum skin. I like it. It's dark like the old forum. Although, the text box is dark, too...but eh, it's okay. I can see the type just fine soo. I'm good.

 

I find this skin more soothing and calm on my eyeballz

hey where do u see new skins? All mine does is change the bg pic but the text box is still white



#81732
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My contention: As of DA2, Cullen is not a good person, as I don't believe that one can be good while serving evil. Agree/disagree?

 

Do note that I believe in redemption and that Cullen is rather more likely to have it than many.



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My contention: As of DA2, Cullen is not a good person, as I don't believe that one can be good while serving evil. Agree/disagree?

 

Do note that I believe in redemption and that Cullen is rather more likely to have it than many.

 

 

That's kind of like me saying that the Catholic church is evil, and everyone who is Catholic is therefore evil.


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Also, Greg Ellis is ignoring my tweet. He tweeted about something else, instead. But not to me.



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lol its April 1st here :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:



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Potato Cat

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lol its April 1st here :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:


Have you been trying to find the Pokemon on Google Maps?
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That's kind of like me saying that the Catholic church is evil, and everyone who is Catholic is therefore evil.

Given how many Catholics do nothing to serve the Church and seriously disagree with it on points of doctrine, I don't think that holds up. In any case, the Templar Order is far smaller and more tightly unified in the actions it takes and the philosophy it espouses.



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Have you been trying to find the Pokemon on Google Maps?

LOL well just out of curiosity I did do a search just for laughs and apparently there are alot of places in the US  with the name pokemon



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My contention: As of DA2, Cullen is not a good person, as I don't believe that one can be good while serving evil. Agree/disagree?

 

Do note that I believe in redemption and that Cullen is rather more likely to have it than many.

Thing is...in all honesty, Cullen fanboyness aside, there were times when I do think he can be fair and rational, and there were still a few times when I want to slap him. Notably the "Divine Right" BS he spouted in DA2.


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LOL well just out of curiosity I did do a search just for laughs and apparently there are alot of places in the US  with the name pokemon


No, like there's a Snorlax in the Vatican and an Espeon in Zurich! You have to find and catch them!
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That's kind of like me saying that the Catholic church is evil, and everyone who is Catholic is therefore evil.

I'm not evil.... :crying:



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My contention: As of DA2, Cullen is not a good person, as I don't believe that one can be good while serving evil. Agree/disagree?

 

Do note that I believe in redemption and that Cullen is rather more likely to have it than many.

I don't find that really accurate to be honest,what makes someone evil or good is his motivations.Although it isn't uncommon for someone generally considered "good" to do something evil or someone "evil" to do something good(The concept of morality is far more complex than that!).Cullen is more mislead rather than evil,his heart is in the right place but his actions may  sometimes contradict that,due to what he considers his duty.The fact that he questions and doubts and even opposes some extreme views and measures,indicates that he has not completely lost his judgement to the brainwashing manipulative doctrines of the chantry.

Well that's my opinion anyway...Phew!A lot  of character analysis today...


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Thing is...in all honesty, Cullen fanboyness aside, there were times when I do think he can be fair and rational, and there were still a few times when I want to slap him. Notably the "Divine Right" BS he spouted in DA2.

 

I know, right, it's like he's a complex, deeply flawed, and deeply human character. ;)



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Thing is...in all honesty, Cullen fanboyness aside, there were times when I do think he can be fair and rational, and there were still a few times when I want to slap him. Notably the "Divine Right" BS he spouted in DA2.

He can be polite, but... I've never really heard any of his political opinions that I could consider fair.

 

 

I don't find that really accurate to be honest,what makes someone evil or good is his motivations.Although it isn't uncommon for someone generally considered "good" to do something evil or someone "evil" to do something good(The concept of morality is far more complex than that!).Cullen is more mislead rather than evil,his heart is in the right place but his actions may  sometimes contradict that,due to what he considers his duty.The fact that he questions and doubts and even opposes some extreme views and measures,indicates that he has not completely lost his judgement to the brainwashing manipulative doctrines of the chantry.

Well that's my opinion anyway...Phew!A lot  of character analysis today...

Cullen being evil is only shown when he participates in an act of genocide, at which point any possible justifications fly out the window.



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I'm not evil.... :crying:

 

I'm not saying I believe that Catholics are evil, I was just using the Catholic church as an example. I could have said the Mormon church, or the US Military.



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No, like there's a Snorlax in the Vatican and an Espeon in Zurich! You have to find and catch them!

lol are you trolling me for april fools? cuz if you are then....

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=oHg5SJYRHA0



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My contention: As of DA2, Cullen is not a good person, as I don't believe that one can be good while serving evil. Agree/disagree?

 

Do note that I believe in redemption and that Cullen is rather more likely to have it than many.

 

I think everyone might have a different opinion on what is evil. I don't see the Templar Order as evil, I might see it as a necessary evil. I also don't see a true bad person saving those 3 Mages for example (and I know they're supposedly made tranquil, but this is off screen and we don't know who is behind that.) I could see Sir Alrik go along with Meredith and kill those Mages, but Cullen didn't, so there has to be some sliver of good in the guy. 



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lol are you trolling me for april fools? cuz if you are then....
 


Nope, it's the Google Maps' April Fools. I'm having a lot of fun to be honest.

#81749
Xilizhra

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I think everyone might have a different opinion on what is evil. I don't see the Templar Order as evil, I might see it as a necessary evil. I also don't see a true bad person saving those 3 Mages for example (and I know they're supposedly made tranquil, but this is off screen and we don't know who is behind that.) I could see Sir Alrik go along with Meredith and kill those Mages, but Cullen didn't, so there has to be some sliver of good in the guy. 

Someone who was not a truly bad person wouldn't have limited themselves to only saving three token mages to begin with.

 

As I mentioned before, I do think he's redeemable. I'd be willing to redeem Rendon Howe if I had the chance.

 

 

I know, right, it's like he's a complex, deeply flawed, and deeply human character. ;)

Given that every evil person IRL has been deeply human, I don't see the two concepts as mutually exclusive.

 

Also, I apologize if I've become too heated.



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This is one of those times where you're not sure what to post because you don't want the thread to turn into a flame-war. Sooo...

 

 

I hope the Devs are going to pull an April Fool's joke on the forums, just to break up the tension since everyone wants to know more information about the game.


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