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thank you,  I have flipped his penis upside-down to make it look like its not erected lol hopefully that works

That sounds... painful! :lol:


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LOL, one of the real Milli Vanilli's tweeted at me again!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


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That sounds... painful! :lol:

 

... Can I see his upside down embargo, please?


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... Can I see his upside down embargo, please?

lol you will just got to get the right render for it :P


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LOL, one of the real Milli Vanilli's tweeted at me again!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

You mean the remaining Milli Vanilli. Rob Pilatus died in 1998, but Fab Morvan is still around.

 

EDIT: Wait, you meant the real Milli Vanillis. NVM



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As for Cullen's virginity, the way he's been portrayed, I think he probably still is a virgin. However, I don't think he's as naïve about things as Alistair was.

 

That's my line of thought, too. He just seems like the kind of person who doesn't think of sex as important? Or maybe he just had better things to do. (Or maybe I'm projecting. I rather doubt he's ace.) I dunno, you'd think Varric would have heard about it, and then shared with us.

 

VARRIC: Hawke, did you hear?

HAWKE: About... what? Do I want to know?

VARRIC: It's about your favorite Knight-Captain. And the Blooming Rose. And someone who claims to have seen his, ah-hem, sword of mercy up close and very personal.

[A BEAT]

HAWKE: Tell me everything.


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You mean the remaining Milli Vanilli. Rob Pilatus died in 1998, but Fab Morvan is still around.

 

Lol, no I mean the Milli Vanilli people behind the scenes. Rob and Fab were the lip syncing frontmen. The real singers (2 women and 2 men).



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That's my line of thought, too. He just seems like the kind of person who doesn't think of sex as important? Or maybe he just had better things to do. (Or maybe I'm projecting. I rather doubt he's ace.) I dunno, you'd think Varric would have heard about it, and then shared with us.

 

VARRIC: Hawke, did you hear?

HAWKE: About... what? Do I want to know?

VARRIC: It's about your favorite Knight-Captain. And the Blooming Rose. And someone who claims to have seen his, ah-hem, sword of mercy up close and very personal.

[A BEAT]

HAWKE: Tell me everything.

I read the "Tell me everything" in Cass's voice, cause that's totally her line.


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Is it true that Cullen won't be a companion in DAI, just a NPC? :(



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Is it true that Cullen won't be a companion in DAI, just a NPC? :(

 

Dunno yet, it hasn't been confirmed either way.



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Is it true that Cullen won't be a companion in DAI, just a NPC? :(

 

Nothing's confirmed yet. I tend to waffle on it twice an hour. Yesterday I was convinced Iron Bull wasn't going to be a companion and that Cullen was. Now? I dunno.  :lol:


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Is it true that Cullen won't be a companion in DAI, just a NPC? :(

We can't say for sure at this point...Though this seems to be the "main" theory about Cullen's role in inquisition atm.



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I see. Thanks, guys! Let's keep praying he comes back as a companion.

(Otherwise, we'll march with pitches and forks to Bioware's HQ. :ph34r: )



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I see. Thanks, guys! Let's keep praying he comes back as a companion.

(Otherwise, we'll march with pitches and forks to Bioware's HQ. :ph34r: )

Child, we already have our Exalted March planned for BioWare Edmonton. All we need is the green light from our Prophet Lady R2.


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Okay, sorry this topic has been so disjointed; I'm having to post between things at work :P

 

1. So if we think the various origins exist whether we play them or not, should we assume that at least one of those is a female Surana or Amell; thus Cullen's infatuation is canon?

 

2. Regardless as to whether or not it's canon -- do you think it matters? Is it important? I mean, I guess... would we find him as compelling if we didn't know he had a shy, stuttering crush on someone (male or female... lets assume for the sake of example that he could canonically be infatuated with male Surana or Amell, too) in his early years? 

 

I ask because I'm undecided. Yes, I think Cullen's changing spiritual and political beliefs are fascinating, and it's chiefly what draws me to the character. But aside from that, just as a person, I do find his early shyness interesting... and I find it charming that he retains that shyness into adulthood and the beginnings of middle age. 

 

Does that general shyness translate to actual lack of experience in bed? I don't know and I honestly don't care. I hope it isn't brought up at all. One thing I'm sure of is that I don't think his virginity or lack of virginity contributes to his character at all. (As opposed to, say, Fenris, admitting that he hasn't let anyone get too close before Hawke. It's important for Fenris' story and character.)


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Okay, sorry this topic has been so disjointed; I'm having to post between things at work :P

 

1. So if we think the various origins exist whether we play them or not, should we assume that at least one of those is a female Surana or Amell; thus Cullen's infatuation is canon?

 

2. Regardless as to whether or not it's canon -- do you think it matters? Is it important? I mean, I guess... would we find him as compelling if we didn't know he had a shy, stuttering crush on someone (male or female... lets assume for the sake of example that he could canonically be infatuated with male Surana or Amell, too) in his early years? 

 

I ask because I'm undecided. Yes, I think Cullen's changing spiritual and political beliefs are fascinating, and it's chiefly what draws me to the character. But aside from that, just as a person, I do find his early shyness interesting... and I find it charming that he retains that shyness into adulthood and the beginnings of middle age. 

 

Does that general shyness translate to actual lack of experience in bed? I don't know and I honestly don't care. I hope it isn't brought up at all. One thing I'm sure of is that I don't think his virginity or lack of virginity contributes to his character at all. (As opposed to, say, Fenris, admitting that he hasn't let anyone get too close before Hawke. It's important for Fenris' story and character.)

I guess there will be one female Surana or Amell for canon (I guess Amell, for continuation in DA:2). If it really matters... hmm, not per se, but I think it adds to his charm and deepness as a character. It is one of those things that shaped him, if it happened. His experience in bed (or lack thereof) is not something that matters to me. It is not an important part of his character.



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I sorta think it contributes. Cullen pretty obviously has issues, to put it lightly, from what happened at the tower. I doubt he's let anyone close to him since then and I imagine if he is a LI, especially if the inquisitor is a mage, it's signifigant that he'll come to trust her enough to open himself up emotionally again after everything. I imagine he is a virgin, but it will be much different than Alistair.

 

Cullen will likely feel extremely guilty and fight his feelings. Alistair never came across that way.


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Okay, sorry this topic has been so disjointed; I'm having to post between things at work :P

 

1. So if we think the various origins exist whether we play them or not, should we assume that at least one of those is a female Surana or Amell; thus Cullen's infatuation is canon?

 

2. Regardless as to whether or not it's canon -- do you think it matters? Is it important? I mean, I guess... would we find him as compelling if we didn't know he had a shy, stuttering crush on someone (male or female... lets assume for the sake of example that he could canonically be infatuated with male Surana or Amell, too) in his early years? 

 

I ask because I'm undecided. Yes, I think Cullen's changing spiritual and political beliefs are fascinating, and it's chiefly what draws me to the character. But aside from that, just as a person, I do find his early shyness interesting... and I find it charming that he retains that shyness into adulthood and the beginnings of middle age. 

 

Does that general shyness translate to actual lack of experience in bed? I don't know and I honestly don't care. I hope it isn't brought up at all. One thing I'm sure of is that I don't think his virginity or lack of virginity contributes to his character at all. (As opposed to, say, Fenris, admitting that he hasn't let anyone get too close before Hawke. It's important for Fenris' story and character.)

 

1) I think it would be fair to guess that at least one of them was female. (One of the blasted Origins should be female. The ones we've all heard about were male, I think.) If it were mentioned, the writers wouldn't mention a last name unless the Warden was a mage, and maybe not even a gender, if Cullen were a pansexual LI. So, yeah, I think we can take Cullen's infatuation as canon.

 

2) In a way, I think it is important to Cullen's character that, at one point, he went a bit weak in the knees for a mage. That he looked at a mage and didn't see a mage, but saw a person. And I think it's important for him to have later viewed them as something dangerous, perhaps even as a thing for awhile, and then come out the other side and say, yes, they were human, and I felt something for them, and that's alright.

 

That's very true in regards to how Cullen's sexual experience relates to his character. It might effect how a climatic Love Scene plays out, but not his character in general. (Unless there's a ritual or something that requires a virgin sacrifice.) I hope he keeps a touch of his shyness, because I find it endearing. 


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Okay, sorry this topic has been so disjointed; I'm having to post between things at work :P

 

1. So if we think the various origins exist whether we play them or not, should we assume that at least one of those is a female Surana or Amell; thus Cullen's infatuation is canon?

 

2. Regardless as to whether or not it's canon -- do you think it matters? Is it important? I mean, I guess... would we find him as compelling if we didn't know he had a shy, stuttering crush on someone (male or female... lets assume for the sake of example that he could canonically be infatuated with male Surana or Amell, too) in his early years? 

 

I ask because I'm undecided. Yes, I think Cullen's changing spiritual and political beliefs are fascinating, and it's chiefly what draws me to the character. But aside from that, just as a person, I do find his early shyness interesting... and I find it charming that he retains that shyness into adulthood and the beginnings of middle age. 

 

Does that general shyness translate to actual lack of experience in bed? I don't know and I honestly don't care. I hope it isn't brought up at all. One thing I'm sure of is that I don't think his virginity or lack of virginity contributes to his character at all. (As opposed to, say, Fenris, admitting that he hasn't let anyone get too close before Hawke. It's important for Fenris' story and character.)

1) For me, I think it's safe to assume that, yes, he was infatuated with Amell or Surana whether or not they were the warden. When we meet him in Broken Circle, he's clearly being tempted by... something, although without the female mage what that something is isn't clear. So I'm inclined to accept that as canon.

 

2) Yes, I think it matters... to a point. It would explain his softer position towards mages, somewhat, before Uldred. However, that said, we don't know any of this unless we play a female Amell or Surana. When me meet him, he's been tempted and tormented by something and afterwards, he's clearly kill all the mages!Cullen.

 

Cullen is still clearly uncomfortable talking about things sexual and evidenced when talking about the Blooming Rose. Does that translate into being sexually naïve? Who knows. Does it truly matter? No, I don't think so. It's no true relationship if the whole thing hinges on sex.


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#82820
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I sorta think it contributes. Cullen pretty obviously has issues, to put it lightly, from what happened at the tower. I doubt he's let anyone close to him since then and I imagine if he is a LI, especially if the inquisitor is a mage, it's signifigant that he'll come to trust her enough to open himself up emotionally again after everything. 

 

:o I never thought of this...! You're right, it does have significance. It definitely does! I guess, in a sense, Cullen was sexually abused. I had never thought of it that way, but I think I might begin to do so.

 

 

2) In a way, I think it is important to Cullen's character that, at one point, he went a bit weak in the knees for a mage. That he looked at a mage and didn't see a mage, but saw a person. And I think it's important for him to have later viewed them as something dangerous, perhaps even as a thing for awhile, and then come out the other side and say, yes, they were human, and I felt something for them, and that's alright.

 

That's very true in regards to how Cullen's sexual experience relates to his character. It might effect how a climatic Love Scene plays out, but not his character in general. (Unless there's a ritual or something that requires a virgin sacrifice.) I hope he keeps a touch of his shyness, because I find it endearing. 

 

I think the whole thing with him being "soft on the robes" as everyone's favorite vile Starkhaven templar once put it, is definitely canonically important, but I wasn't so certain it was important that he literally had a crush on one. I mean, he could have simply been close friends with a mage. But then that wouldn't tie in to how the demons ultimately abused him. 

 

Cullen being shy, I just consider that a core part of his personality  :) I also think he is an introvert. That contributes to his general thoughtfulness as a person in a position of power. One example of introversion I think is how he confronts Wilmod alone. Yes, he does that for the safety of his men and women (and maybe because he doesn't want anyone to catch him roughing up a recruit) but also it just strikes me as an introverted thing to do: I'm going to take care of this situation by myself.


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Haha! Ok really late on this one but in regards to the desire Demon I always assumed that even if the female Mage didn't exist he would encounter a desire demon and probably a few other demons as well. I got the impression they were testing out his weaknesses and realized his crush on the Mage caused him a lot of shame. Even if she wasn't around this is a young teenage or early 20 something year old man. Their h*rny folks. :P So a desire demon would probably be the best way to get into their minds. I never saw it as a flaw that a desire demon went after him because....I bet that would happen to the majority of us at that age. Definitely in this group lol!

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@ ahellbornlady, phate phenoix, bevH.- you guys did such an awesome explanation for Artemis's question! Very thoughtful and much more to the point then I could have ever done lol! Also you covered it in different aspects which was neat. I was going to go into one of my long psychology tirades and now I won't! Yes! Typing paragraphs on the iPad hurts me lol!
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Okay, sorry this topic has been so disjointed; I'm having to post between things at work :P

 

1. So if we think the various origins exist whether we play them or not, should we assume that at least one of those is a female Surana or Amell; thus Cullen's infatuation is canon?

 

2. Regardless as to whether or not it's canon -- do you think it matters? Is it important? I mean, I guess... would we find him as compelling if we didn't know he had a shy, stuttering crush on someone (male or female... lets assume for the sake of example that he could canonically be infatuated with male Surana or Amell, too) in his early years? 

 

I ask because I'm undecided. Yes, I think Cullen's changing spiritual and political beliefs are fascinating, and it's chiefly what draws me to the character. But aside from that, just as a person, I do find his early shyness interesting... and I find it charming that he retains that shyness into adulthood and the beginnings of middle age. 

 

Does that general shyness translate to actual lack of experience in bed? I don't know and I honestly don't care. I hope it isn't brought up at all. One thing I'm sure of is that I don't think his virginity or lack of virginity contributes to his character at all. (As opposed to, say, Fenris, admitting that he hasn't let anyone get too close before Hawke. It's important for Fenris' story and character.)

Well...Shyness doesn't always indicate inexperience in any of these factors,It's more like a personality trait that some people have while others don't.Personally I think that RL shy people and introverts will find Cullen easy to relate to.
it wasn't his crush on the fem mage that intrigued me but his reaction,which I find very realistic and human.I also find his personality traits refreshing,the majority of characters in video games/literature and media tend to be charismatic with a witty sense of humour,it was nice for a change to see someone who is timid,awkward and soft spoken but with unquestionable will power,(despite the stereotype which often presents people with such traits as weak-willed).
I mostly appreciated him as a character after DA2,because he didn't allow his negative experiences shape him into a fanatic mage-killing bigot(despite some comments he made early in the game,mostly as a result of PTSD).By the end of the game he realises that everyone can be corrupted with power, mage or templar,and decides to follow his ideals about what the order is supposed to do and stand for.

 

About his possible crush on the fem mage,It definitely adds more depth as it makes it more personal for him,but I'd say it was his lost faith in mages at the end of origins that shaped him,before Uldred he strikes me as rather naive,willing to see good in everyone and often questioned his duty as a templar,which was not the case when he was newly transferred in Kirkwall.


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OK  so here is my Cullen's embargo cozy....pics... sorry cloth simulator didn't really behave well on his.... upside-down embargo... hopefully this wont get reported

Is it NSFW IF HE HAS A COZY ON??? idk I put it in mature content just in case

http://ag9993.devian...s=1&ga_recent=1

http://ag9993.devian...ozy-2-444929078


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OK  so here is my Cullen's embargo cozy....pics... sorry cloth simulator didn't really behave well on his.... upside-down embargo... hopefully this wont get reported

Is it NSFW IF HE HAS A COZY ON??? idk I put it in mature content just in case

http://ag9993.devian...s=1&ga_recent=1

http://ag9993.devian...ozy-2-444929078

 

LMFAO!