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[SamaraDraven]

berelinde wrote...

@Brushyourteeth: Interesting!

Honestly, I would infinitely prefer *choosing* sides rather than *changing* sides because the first allows for more divergent backgrounds, but it is interesting.

It isn't the "working for the chantry" part that bugs me. In every BioWare game every written, you *will* spend at least some portion of the game working for somebody you don't want to work for. It's the "starting out as a member of" that bothers me. It imposes a ground-state set of beliefs on the character before the player has a chance to shape the character according to their will. I know that DG said that atheism doesn't exist in Thedas, but he did say that we would be allowed to run characters that reject Andrasteism. Starting out as one of the faithful kind of negates that freedom of choice.

Anyway, I don't want to open up that can of worms again. I just wanted to try again at explaining a stance that seems to be difficult to understand, and this seemed to be a nice, calm place to do it.

I can see your point. It was sooo annoying not being able to choose different races in DAII or to not become a Warden if one didn't want to. At least I could play as a reluctant Warden.

If they keep the DAII format and force you into a character AND an affiliation, I will be very displeased. If the PC is strong-armed into joining that affiliation, for whatever reason, but the character is still who they are; as long as I have a choice of not behaving like a religious enthusiast, I'll be mollified. But if a proud Chantry-douche is all I'm able to be, I'll likely not play it unless I'm bored and it's cheap or free.

[Shades_Of_Pale]

mayrabgood wrote...

Greg Ellis said he did a Cullen session????? OMG!!!!!!!

I'm a lil late to the party but yay that made my day!

He did, but now the tweet disappeared..

[meanieweenie]

Hey guys! Guess who's house got zapped by lightening last night? Now I'm stuck on the iPad with shoddy wifi.

So what. Do we have today? Disappearing tweets and a pending announcement? I'm starting to wonder if my tester buddy was misinformed of the dates.

[Lonaargh]

meanieweenie wrote...

Hey guys! Guess who's house got zapped by lightening last night? Now I'm stuck on the iPad with shoddy wifi.

So what. Do we have today? Disappearing tweets and a pending announcement? I'm starting to wonder if my tester buddy was misinformed of the dates.

Or... he wanted to hear your scream of delight when you heard that DA3 will come out a LOT sooner than expected

[brushyourteeth]

So, talking about Cullen going off the deep end made me wonder what you guys would think of something like this:

If Cullen became so emotionally distraught that he lost a strong sense of who he was and started drowning his sorrows in wine and women. Like he actually got so fed up with everything that he actually walked himself down to the Blooming Rose and things escalated from there. Maybe we'd go on a mission to find some guy who supposedly had connections with Chantry information, and when we track him down in the middle of the night we bust the door open to find him stubbled, unkempt, tipsy, and surrounded by four or five women with lipstick marks on his face and chest.

He'd eventually agree to help us, and it's clear that this is a guy who's been through a lot. He's flirtatious and actually kind of vulgar, but it's obvious that he's trying too hard and the ghosts of his past still haunt him. He's not as rough around the edges as he seems.

Kind of like in the Little Women movie when Laurie goes off to Europe and instead of staying the utter perfection that he is, he gambles away all his money, grows a stupid moustache, and spends all his time flirting with Frenchie floozies. But he eventually comes around, even if he's never quite the same again.

I know a lot of us have said "Cullen = too virginal, won't work because of Alistair." Would you guys be on board for something like that? Would you want to encourage Cullen's dark side, or help him find healing and a non-brothel, non-Chantry identity?

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 17 août 2012 - 08:18 .

[brushyourteeth]

meanieweenie wrote...

Hey guys! Guess who's house got zapped by lightening last night? Now I'm stuck on the iPad with shoddy wifi.

So what. Do we have today? Disappearing tweets and a pending announcement? I'm starting to wonder if my tester buddy was misinformed of the dates.

Ohmigosh - is the house okay? All your stuff? I didn't think that kind of thing happened to real people! LOL

[meanieweenie]

Well now THAT would be nice, wouldn't it? There's also a chance, I suppose, that the powers that be are trying to keep everyone in the dark until they're ready. I swear though... If he's BSing me I'm gonna hurt someone! Lol

[Lonaargh]

brushyourteeth wrote...

So, talking about Cullen going off the deep end made me wonder what you guys would think of something like this:

If Cullen became so emotionally distraught that he lost a strong sense of who he was and started drowning his sorrows in wine and women. Like he actually got so fed up with everything that he actually walked himself down to the Blooming Rose and things escalated from there. Maybe we'd go on a mission to find some guy who supposedly had connections with Chantry information, and when we track him down in the middle of the night we bust the door open to find him stubbled, unkempt, tipsy, and surrounded by four or five women with lipstick marks on his face and chest.

He'd eventually agree to help us, and it's clear that this is a guy who's been through a lot. He's flirtatious and actually kind of vulgar, but it's obvious that he's trying too hard and the ghosts of his past still haunt him. He's not as rough around the edges as he seems.

Kind of like in the Little Women movie when Laurie goes off to Europe and instead of staying the utter perfection that he is, he gambles away all his money, grows a stupid moustache, and spends all his time flirting with Frenchie floozies. But he eventually comes around, even if he's never quite the same again.

I know a lot of us have said "Cullen = too virginal, won't work because of Alistair." Would you guys be on board for something like that? Would you want to encourage Cullen's dark side, or help him find healing and a non-brothel, non-Chantry identity?

I'd kill all those women first. Then help him find healing. I'm not a big fan of dark sides 

[meanieweenie]

Is it messed up if I'd prefer him not to be viginal and I don't mind finding him in a gutter?

Also, the house is fine. We have no phone and one of the tvs is toast. Lights on one side of the house blew but the AC is working..... Thank the maker cuz it's 100 degrees out here in Tx.

[Xilizhra]

brushyourteeth wrote...

So, talking about Cullen going off the deep end made me wonder what you guys would think of something like this:

If Cullen became so emotionally distraught that he lost a strong sense of who he was and started drowning his sorrows in wine and women. Like he actually got so fed up with everything that he actually walked himself down to the Blooming Rose and things escalated from there. Maybe we'd go on a mission to find some guy who supposedly had connections with Chantry information, and when we track him down in the middle of the night we bust the door open to find him stubbled, unkempt, tipsy, and surrounded by four or five women with lipstick marks on his face and chest.

He'd eventually agree to help us, and it's clear that this is a guy who's been through a lot. He's flirtatious and actually kind of vulgar, but it's obvious that he's trying too hard and the ghosts of his past still haunt him. He's not as rough around the edges as he seems.

Kind of like in the Little Women movie when Laurie goes off to Europe and instead of staying the utter perfection that he is, he gambles away all his money, grows a stupid moustache, and spends all his time flirting with Frenchie floozies. But he eventually comes around, even if he's never quite the same again.

I know a lot of us have said "Cullen = too virginal, won't work because of Alistair." Would you guys be on board for something like that? Would you want to encourage Cullen's dark side, or help him find healing and a non-brothel, non-Chantry identity?

That'd be quite amusing, I must say. I wonder what sort of places he could go thereafter, I admit... I'm generally inclined to heal people personally.

[LolaLei]

Oooo your right, his tweet has disappeared! I wish I hadn't posted it in the twitter thread now, I hope that doesn't get him in ****, or get him removed from the game.

I'm pretty sure he was reading for Cullen though, they always give you the characters name and description and a quick low down before record the characters dialogue.

[brushyourteeth]

meanieweenie wrote...

Is it messed up if I'd prefer him not to be viginal and I don't mind finding him in a gutter?

First of all, I totally read that "vaginal" 
*pours brain bleach*
.....

Second of all, I don't think so. At first I really liked the idea of Cullen staying his cute stuttery-afraid-of-women (or men) self. But now I admit the idea of helping him recover and find some balance sounds much more appealing. And I love the idea of taking a Cullen who's always had unrequited love and no sex or sex without love and finally helping him see how great feels for the two to go together. And helping him drop the facade. Cullen seems like a guy that could easily flipflop to extremes to me - like he doesn't feel he's doing things *right* unless he's doing them 100%. So if he chooses to be 100% scumbag, you give him a good reason to clean up and figure out who he really is.

That is, if the writers would make that happen for us. I honestly can't handle another heartbreak/disappointment like the two male LI's were in the last game. "Love me!" "Grumble grumble, protect me from my enemies. Let's have sex and then I'll ignore you. Grumble some more."

Also, the house is fine. We have no phone and one of the tvs is toast. Lights on one side of the house blew but the AC is working..... Thank the maker cuz it's 100 degrees out here in Tx.

SOO glad to hear it. Hope the replacement tv's not too pricey. I feel for you. 

[LolaLei]

Lol! My protagonist would still shag him... But he'd need to get healed by Anders first, just incase he's caught something nasty.

[brushyourteeth]

Xilizhra wrote...
That'd be quite amusing, I must say. I wonder what sort of places he could go thereafter, I admit... I'm generally inclined to heal people personally.

Awright! Glad you think so. 

I think I am too. Inclined to heal people, I think. Not change them, because that's something else completely. But if someone's in pain, I do feel that compulsive need to comfort/protect/heal. Fenris and Merrill's puppy eyes were terrible for me in that respect. Could...not...resist

EDIT:  Though, given the option, I'd totally corrupt him further. As Lola says, "for science."   

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 17 août 2012 - 08:42 .

[brushyourteeth]

double post AAAARGH.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 17 août 2012 - 08:41 .

[Xilizhra]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
That'd be quite amusing, I must say. I wonder what sort of places he could go thereafter, I admit... I'm generally inclined to heal people personally.

Awright! Glad you think so. 

I think I am too. Inclined to heal people, I think. Not change them, because that's something else completely. But if someone's in pain, I do feel that compulsive need to comfort/protect/heal. Fenris and Merrill's puppy eyes were terrible for me in that respect. Could...not...resist.

Would you consider rivaling Isabela to be changing or healing?

[brushyourteeth]

Xilizhra wrote...

Would you consider rivaling Isabela to be changing or healing?

I'm not sure - I never ended up rivaling her. What happens?

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

Lol! My protagonist would still shag him... But he'd need to get healed by Anders first, just incase he's caught something nasty.

LOL! Hopefully he'd take good-guy mHawke's advice and BEE CAAREFUUUL! 

[LolaLei]

So, what do you guys think Cullen's reaction would be to Alistair if he's in a relationship with your Mage Warden? (That being if he makes another cameo appearance and Cullen's a companion?

I think he'd be a little embarrassed, especially if Alistair was there when he admitted his infatuation for the female Warden, but I think he'd ask how she is and say something like "I'm glad she's happy and that you're looking after her" and then Alistair would make some joke about how the Warden is looking after him more like lol.

Modifié par LolaLei, 17 août 2012 - 08:48 .

[Xilizhra]

LolaLei wrote...

So, what do you guys think Cullen's reaction would be to Alistair if is in a relationship with your Mage Warden? (That being if he makes another cameo appearance and Cullen's a companion?

I think he'd be a little embarrassed, especially if Alistair was there when he admitted his infatuation for the female Warden, but I think he'd ask how she is and say something like "I'm glad she's happy and that you're looking after her" and then Alistair would make some joke about how the Warden is looking after him more like lol.

I'd be more interested in what his reaction to Leliana would be if she's in a relationship with the mage Warden, as she is for mine.

brushyourteeth wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Would you consider rivaling Isabela to be changing or healing?

I'm not sure - I never ended up rivaling her. What happens?

She says she's glad about killing Castillon and that she'll try to be a better person, in short.

[LolaLei]

Xilizhra: If she's in a relationship with any of them lol. I think he'd have dirty thoughts if it's the Warden and Leliana LOL!

[Xilizhra]

LolaLei wrote...

Xilizhra: If she's in a relationship with any of them lol. I think he'd have dirty thoughts if it's the Warden and Leliana LOL!

I just wonder if it'd change based on her being a Seeker...

Hmm. Now I feel more sure I want my Warden to be a mage specifically.

[LolaLei]

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Xilizhra: If she's in a relationship with any of them lol. I think he'd have dirty thoughts if it's the Warden and Leliana LOL!

I just wonder if it'd change based on her being a Seeker...

Hmm. Now I feel more sure I want my Warden to be a mage specifically.

It would be interesting if it did! 

My first playthrough is definitely gonna be a Mage, I wanna see if characters actually react to you flinging magic spells around and stuff.

[brushyourteeth]

Xilizhra wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Would you consider rivaling Isabela to be changing or healing?

I'm not sure - I never ended up rivaling her. What happens?

She says she's glad about killing Castillon and that she'll try to be a better person, in short.

Oh, so she doesn't take the boat, then? See, that's a tough one. In real life I guess I do tend to have *rival* friendships ("That guy beats his mother. You probably shouldn't date him." - true story, friendship now over, friend married to SirBeatsHisMom) but I've never actually tried to control the decisions my friends make - just tell them when I honestly think they're on the wrong track. Isabela was practicing pirate law, right? So that's kind of her business. What's iffy is that there were slaves involved, if I remember right. And I do think Isabela's better than that. She actually hates slavery. So I'd remind her of that, and then I wouldn't judge. If I was disappointed, I'd swallow it (and maybe attack the slave operation for kicks later).

I think the only thing about the non-rival friendship that bugs me is that there's never a moment where you say "Isabela, I know you're not completely happy with the way your life is going. Have the courage to do what's in your heart, because your instincts are good ones. You can still have fun and use your talents to make the world better"

So if that's what the rivalry path is about, I guess I'd support it. If it's all "You're pathetic. Get a real life." then probably not.

Which path did you prefer?