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#86401
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Maybe there's some way to refine or chemically alter the red lyrium so that it can be used safely, without driving people mad. Maybe you can make an even purer version of lyrium that templars can become un-addicted to the regular stuff, and then ease off the refined stuff so that they are permanently off of it.
 
Hey, they do it with drug addicts, so why not.


I thought the purer stuff was even more dangerous? Don't mages die just from close contact with the stuff?

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I'm sure if they can find a "cure" for tranquility, they can find a cure for Lyrium addiction.


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#86403
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A mystery for all the Ages!

 

Yup.... whoever he may be, I surely have no idea. 

 

 

 

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#86404
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Yup.... whoever he may be, I surely have no idea. 

 

 

 

The weirdest thing here is that this afternoon I was thinking about how awesome 'shopping Cullen onto Old Spice Guy would be!


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#86405
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I thought the purer stuff was even more dangerous? Don't mages die just from close contact with the stuff?

Indeed. Touching pure lyrium causes severe hemorrhaging for a mage, leading to a bloody death. No telling what unrefined red lyrium would do to mages. I'd highly suggest not standing near a mage if they decide to touch the stuff.

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Maybe there's some way to refine or chemically alter the red lyrium so that it can be used safely, without driving people mad. Maybe you can make an even purer version of lyrium that templars can become un-addicted to the regular stuff, and then ease off the refined stuff so that they are permanently off of it.

Hey, they do it with drug addicts, so why not.

That's assuming I can be chemically changed at all. While it may be a mineral, it is still magical in nature. Attempting to experiment could be disastrous.

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Indeed. Touching pure lyrium causes severe hemorrhaging for a mage, leading to a bloody death. No telling what unrefined red lyrium would do to mages. I'd highly suggest not standing near a mage if they decide to touch the stuff.


Doesn't mage Hawke touch the idol though? Unless that counts as it having been refined. Either way, they got VERY close to it on more than one occasion.

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I want to romance Cullen with a Dalish mage. (That is the only option for elf mages, right?)

 

It's the only option for all elven inquisitors :) You can only play Dalish this time.



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Doesn't mage Hawke touch the idol though? Unless that counts as it having been refined. Either way, they got VERY close to it on more than one occasion.

 

WHOA You forgot though that Hawke is a certifiable badass :P


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#86410
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Doesn't mage Hawke touch the idol though? Unless that counts as it having been refined. Either way, they got VERY close to it on more than one occasion.

Well, the idol wasn't entirely lyrium though was it? It looked like:

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Regardless, red lyrium might not have an immediate effect on mages like the blue version.



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URGH. My gifs for the cullen 5000  page were accidentally deleted and now I can't get them back! *cries*. Hours of work gone... 



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Hmm, when I said a purer form, I meant pure as in pure and angelic, and isn't going to hurt someone, lol!



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URGH. My gifs for the cullen 5000  page were accidentally deleted and now I can't get them back! *cries*. Hours of work gone... 

that sux.. I know how you feel.. happen to me before.. not fun....


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#86414
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man.. 5 more days until I start my job....its gonna suck cause if more news comes about Cullen...I will miss it... :(



#86415
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man.. 5 more days until I start my job....its gonna suck cause if more news comes about Cullen...I will miss it... :(

You're not...leaving us, are you? Or do you just mean you won't be able to check on here as often as normal?



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By the way, what's the status on imports? Still no? (I know about the Keep)

 

I think I'm trying to find an excuse to start another playthrough lol

 

Anybody know the answer to this?



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You're not...leaving us, are you? Or do you just mean you won't be able to check on here as often as normal?

No im not leaving but depending on how much work I will have to do I wont be here as often as I would like  but then again im not sure how the work environment is.. maybe im allowed access to here who knows...



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Anybody know the answer to this?

 

I think it's only the Keep at this point.


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#86419
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Anybody know the answer to this?

I think they were still looking at imports, but honestly at this point, the Keep is your best bet.



#86420
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that sux.. I know how you feel.. happen to me before.. not fun....

 

 

Well... i'll guess I'll just have to make a perfect version this time. 150 frames.... each one altered..... *sighs* 

 

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#86421
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Well... i'll guess I'll just have to make a perfect version this time. 150 frames.... each one altered..... *sighs* 

 

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yea the 2nd time is always better cause you get to do things that you might have missed ;)  altho the re work for that is not quite as fun imo



#86422
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One thing about Cullen: he does seem to have a bigoted streak towards non-Andrastians, if his comments about the qunari are any indication.


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One aspect I'd love, (maybe only appropriate to be romance exclusive content), would be confirmation he's still having nightmares after everything that happened in Ferelden. Returning to Kinloch Hold could prove incredibly interesting.

 

Yeah, agreed. So far the writers have done an admirably realistic job portraying Cullen's PTSD in my opinion, and I'd like to see them continue to explore that.

 



I don't know, maybe I'm weird, but that is something I would like to explore.  I've been curious about it ever since Alistair talked about it in Origins.  For instance, can an addicted Templar ever get clean without losing his mind?  If so, what would that involve?  What if it requires blood magic?  How would said Templar react to that?  So many questions.  :huh:

 

Agreed on this too. The game has established that templars are addicted to lyrium. That puts Cullen in a tough situation, but I'd rather have the game explore it than handwave it away or gloss over it.

 

Whether Cullen ends up overcoming the addiction or accepting that he has to live with it for the rest of his life (whether because the physical dependence can't be overcome or because the price of a "cure" is too high) it would lead to interesting character development.

 



I've been wanting to say this for a while, because I've seen it in a number of places (and lord knows wanting my Warden or Inquisitor to kiss the tears away is part of my attraction if I'm being honest) and I don't want to sound like I'm attacking anyone in particular, but could we talk a little bit about the language of "curing his PTSD with my love/sex"? It kind of makes me uncomfortable. I guess I'm hoping maybe some of the people in the thread with more psych background than me can, I don't know, provide us with some informed commentary about (a) the extent to which people with PTSD eventually lose their symptoms, ( b. the role their loved ones play in this, and © the (courtesy? respect?) one is required to afford a fictional person in this regard? (Parts a and b are the scientist in me seeking information, Part c, I guess, translates to "am I totally walking around with a stick up my ass here"?)

 

My response would be somewhere in the middle.

 

Loving someone does not cure PTSD. You cannot "fix" a traumatized person by just showing them enough affection or having sex with them or starting a relationship with them, etc.

 

That said, having supportive people is hugely beneficial to overcoming mental health challenges, and being without support is hugely detrimental. Having understanding, loving people makes the difficult times much more bearable. If Cullen felt safe, he wouldn't have to cultivate hypervigilance as he did in Kirkwall and his circumstances would work toward growth and healing rather than against it.

 

I doubt Cullen will ever "get over" his PTSD, in the sense that it will never be as though it never happened. That's not realistic. However, people can and do live with PTSD and experience healing. It's not a life sentence of misery.

 

The Inquisitor can't "heal" Cullen. But that said, I think that having the Inquisitor's support could help Cullen heal himself.


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#86424
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By the way, what's the status on imports? Still no? (I know about the Keep)

 

I think I'm trying to find an excuse to start another playthrough lol

 

Nope, sorry luv. I think they're still doing betas, but I haven't heard anything about the next session of testing - if there is one.

 

I might start a new PT myself as a lady Cousland and finally romance Alistair fully.


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#86425
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One thing about Cullen: he does seem to have a bigoted streak towards non-Andrastians, if his comments about the qunari are any indication.

Not much more so than the average Thedosian in regards to the Qunari.