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I was always meh about Cullen because he was so minor, but since he's gonna be in DA:I (as a connection to the Templars?) then I hope the flesh him out more even if he's most likely a NPC


Yeah, I'm hoping they use him to help show the Templar angle, since they've been pretty hard to sympathize with up till now, especially since the DA:I Templars are going to be going crazy everywhere. o.O

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Bioware people were squeeing over him?


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#88928
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Yeah, I'm hoping they use him to help show the Templar angle, since they've been pretty hard to sympathize with up till now, especially since the DA:I Templars are going to be going crazy everywhere. o.O


Ehh not really since the Red Templars are a splinter group from the Templars who left the Chantry

 

And the Reds seems to be wearing more red on their outfits


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It was about me a couple posts up so you can go away w all that lol like who are you?? why are you even responding?

 

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#88930
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Ehh not really since the Red Templars are a splinter group from the Templars who left the Chantry
 
And the Reds seems to be wearing more red on their outfits


Dunno, though. Most of the Templars left the chantry and I'm pretty sure they're on the red stuff. That's a lot if crazies out there, and they weren't necessarily always the good guys to begin with. :/

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Dunno, though. Most of the Templars left the chantry and I'm pretty sure they're on the red stuff. That's a lot if crazies out there, and they weren't necessarily always the good guys to begin with. :/

 

Well that depends on how you look at the Templars



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Well that depends on how you look at the Templars


I mean, I'm pretty pro-Circle, but even I have to admit that this "mages aren't people" business has got to stop. Meredith turned Kirkwall into a powder keg and Elthina just watched it happen. It's a lot easier to sympathize with the mages overall. For most fans, anyway.

The most compelling reason to see the Templar side came from dialogue with Meredith that you only get once you've sided with them anyway. :/

I want it to be like "Cullen: come see the softer side of the Order." ;D
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#88933
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I mean, I'm pretty pro-Circle, but even I have to admit that this "mages aren't people" business has got to stop. Meredith turned Kirkwall into a powder keg and Elthina just watched it happen. It's a lot easier to sympathize with the mages overall. For most fans, anyway.

The most compelling reason to see the Templar side came from dialogue with Meredith that you only get once you've sided with them anyway. :/

I want it to be like "Cullen: come see the softer side of the Order." ;D

 

Well DA2 was meant to show off the bad and extremes of both sides, so the devs say

 

With Cullen given what happened to him in DAO, that seemed like a trigger thing which looks like he got over towards Act 3 


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Well DA2 was meant to show off the bad and extremes of both sides, so the devs say
 
With Cullen given what happened to him in DAO, that seemed like a trigger thing which looks like he got over towards Act 3


Most fans don't see it that way, though.

I mean we still have to deal with "this guy is a sociopath and you silly girls (because we're supposedly all girls) just want the D."

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Most fans don't see it that way, though.

I mean we still have to deal with "this guy is a sociopath and you silly girls (because we're supposedly all girls) just want the D."

:/

 

I know that's why I don't care for the Mage/Templar conflict at all


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I'm just glad he's still in the game to begin with. But to be an LI, I'm really excited to learn more about his story. Not to mention all the other stuff we're going to get to do. So far it looks like hunting and crafting! Woop!

 

Lola, pink fur for your Cullen? LMAO!



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Hello old thread friend. Good to see you're still going! 

 

 

 

I haven't checked this thread in a while, I'm going to assume I didn't miss anything did I? Considering I frequent the newer one


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Hey Lola, have you been able to beta test The Keep yet? You don't have to tell me any details about it, I was just wondering if you finally got to test it yet.



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Hot, blond, about yea high? Swinging that big ass sword around?

 

Hmm... Cullen, you say? I think I've heard of him. I think my Inquisitor was saying something about getting his shiny armored pants off - that was the guy, right?


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#88940
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So that blood moon was cool... 


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#88941
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So that blood moon was cool... 

We couldn't see it from where I am... hopefully  more luck in October!

 

The dust has settled here too? Don't know what happened, but I thought it became a bit hostile here... I mean, sorry if people feel offended if things are said, but I guess it is sometimes better to take it to PM instead of throwing it out on a forum. But than again, I don't know the details, so sorry if I am a bit too quick with throwing my 2 cents :)



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I watched it from about halfway until it looked like it just turned to copper dust. 



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I watched it from about halfway until it looked like it just turned to copper dust. 

It was redish brown. 



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So that blood moon was cool... 

There was a blood moon?Man I should check the sky more often...



#88945
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So that blood moon was cool... 

 

I couldn't see it, it was too cloudy.  :(



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Eh, it wasn't life changing. Just a brownish redish moon



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So that blood moon was cool... 

 

It was too cloudy to see it here.  I had planned to take some cool shots of it, but the sky would not cooperate.   :angry:



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The most compelling reason to see the Templar side came from dialogue with Meredith that you only get once you've sided with them anyway. :/

I only once really sided with the Templars - when Bethany was in the Circle. You can't be rude to the Knight-Commander when she has your baby sister. But then I switched sides during the final confrontation, to protect my sister, and also because it wasn't Orsino who blew up the Chantry.

 

I really liked how the Templar Order was portrayed in DA:O, btw. There were naive templars like Cullen, whose cute illusions were crushed by blood magic, there were hardcore guys like Greagoir, who was strict, but chose to save the Circle instead of annihilating it (with a little help from us), so I think he was all right. There was Ser Otto, who I simply adore, although he might have been a bit crazy, in a good way. But he was trying to protect the elves from demons. There was Ser Rylock, a bit obsessed with capturing Anders :) She was probably the craziest of DA:O templars, if we don't count the possessed ones. Ser Rylien seemed like a good hearted kid too, not crazy or evil. Ser Bryant in Lothering was simply a hero. Ser Drass represents the kind of a templar who was probably forced to take his vows. Alistair was also sent to a monastery against his will, so I believe not all templars choose to join the order. And when you are forced to do something you hate, you probably won't do it very well. And if you believe deep down inside that your freedom was violated, then maybe you will imagine that your power over your charges is something you can use to make up for that, and that's how we get a power-hungry bastard templar :) Like some guys in DAII.

Now add lyrium to that. DA:O had 2 examples of what lyrium does to templars who take too much of it, or use it for too long. And Alistair suggests that perhaps lyrium is not even needed to develop the templar abilities. 

Thinking about this led me to a conclusion, that the Templar Order is as much a victim of the Chantry system, as the Circles. Templars are good warriors, they are great to deal with demons, abominations and mages. They could be like magical police :) They could do something useful. I think their potential is being wasted at the moment on guarding teenages who just want to kiss, and blow up each other's heads. :)

 

Looks like I got carried away from the main topic, but I think Cullen would support my vision of the future of his Order. If you've been doing something all your life, it's difficult to accept your profession is no longer needed, especially if you see how you can be of use.


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#88949
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Wow, Galagraphia -- I don't have much to say except that I agree with your thoughts!!

 

I still think Cullen could be convinced (er... encouraged?) to go either way, but when he's his best self, I believe he still has faith in the Order's original purpose: "to protect the world from magic and mages from themselves."  :)



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So 56 days until e3!


Or as the internet also tells me:
 

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