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LolaLei wrote...

I'm hoping in DA3 they'll have a set of casual clothing for each character (kinda like ME3 where they change into regular clothing when they're off duty) because romantic moments with someone in 2" thick armour kinda ruins the more intimate moments lol.

I'm also desperately hoping for a romance/sex scene with Cullen in the rain. I actually have this concept in my head for his romance story arc if you pursue him as a mage, I figured I'd write it down in here in case anyone fancies using it for a fanfic (it's a bit of a long one so I apologise in advance):

Picture the scene, your PC 'n' companions have stopped over night in some rich noble's mansion who you helped earlier in the game during some random quest. Everyone is drinking, relaxing and generally being social. The rich nobleman has taken a liking to your PC and is obviously flirting and trying to impress her. After a short cut scene and dialogue between the noble and your PC you see Cullen get up and leave but the PC doesn't realise at first, instead being distracted by the nobleman showing off with his entertainment and lute playing. Eventually your PC notices Cullen is missing and asks the others where he's disappeared to, one of your companions tells her that he excused himself claiming he needed to get some air, hinting or making some smart mouthed comment about Cullen being jealous. The PC decides check on him to make sure he's alright.

After a short while your PC finds him outside pacing backwards and forwards in the rain mumbling and scolding himself, she asks whats wrong and he goes into a stuttering angry rant about being in trouble, how he thought he'd grown out of ill advised infatuations and how the maker will judge him for his sins, eventually blurting out his feelings for her, how conflicted he feels and how he knows he can never have her because she's a mage but seeing her tonight with another man really got to him and as such he must regretfully abandon their quest (whatever that may be) for his own sanity because he can't stand to see her with another man. Suddenly the PC interupts him mid-sentence with a urgent kiss on the lips, realising what she's done she quickly pulls away leaving Cullen standing in stunned silence, hands stiff by his sides looking shocked... Seeing the expression on his face she begins to apologise but he implusively grabs her all sense abandoning him, pulling her close and kissing her desperately as if may never get another chance, "stay" she manages to gasp between kisses as things start to get heated, suddenly they get rudely interupted by something or someone moving around in the shadows and they nervously return back to the mansion worried that someone has seen them. That night you see a cut scene of Cullen sneaking off racked with guilt that he broke the Templar code and his beliefs, writing her a letter of apology he quietly slips it under her door and leaves the mansion. You see him getting into a horse drawn cart with a two shadowy figures.

The next morning upon the discovery that Cullen has left, the heart broken PC has no choice but to carry on with her quest without him. Later on in the game your PC is given the option to romance someone else (either a companion or the rich noble/random NPC) or stay single and heartbroken (kinda like in Mass Effect 2 with the whole Kaidan/Ashley thing.) At some point in the game you run into trouble and end up captured/tortured and locked up at the hand of Templars. You then get to take control of Cullen who gets word of the PC's kidnap and panics, hunting down the Templars, slaughtering all those who stand in his way as he desperately searches for your PC. Eventually he discovers where she's being held and battles his way through dungeons, one-by-one rescuing the other companions who join you in the hunt through the dungeons to find her. He finally rescues your PC (que some boss fight) and you all return to safety.

Back in camp you finally get the chance to have it out with Cullen and find out why he left, he tells you of his guilt and that your PC's life would have been in danger had he stayed because the Knight Divine had been in search of them both upon discovering that he (as Knight Captain or Knight commander) had allied himself with an apostate mage (who by this point has probably caused all sorts of political uproar) your PC discovers that the night they kissed, one of the Templar order who had been sent to apprehend Cullen had seen them and reported it to the Divine who then ordered him to break into Cullen's room and demand he return with them less they kill "his little mage." Cullen managed to bargain with the Divine who agreed to spare the PC's life in return offering himself essentially as a slave to the Divine. However, the Divine lies to him and sends Templars to capture the PC regardless, when Cullen discovers this, mortified he escaped and came to your rescue. He promises to never leave your side again but you can either tell him you want nothing more to do with him and send him away, keep him in your team but tell him you've moved on with another companion - which breaks his heart but he accepts this because he feels like he deserves it for everything he put you through, or you can accept his apology and admit you are in a relationship with someone else but promise to break it off with them to be with him OR if you stayed "faithful" you rekindle things and pick up where you left off, with added dialogue in which he tells you that he loves you more than he ever thought he could love anything and promises never to let his duty or faith come between you ever again *cue sex scene* lol.

... Alas, I suspect this will only ever occur in a fan fiction, but it would be ****ing awesome if something like this did happen in DA3!


That's a damn fine setup for a story there. =D I'd write it if I weren't so busy with my current fic. The character I made isn't a mage, though they have their own issues about duty keeping them apart. ;) And, yes, a casual set of clothes for everyone would be nice.


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Mmm, would love to see him in civilian clothes. Although... that skirt. The sash just intrigues me.[smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/bandit.png[/smilie]


That sash would be soooo useful in the bedroom, no? ;)

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 11 avril 2012 - 02:51 .


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Aw thanks.

Even if you didn't pick a mage in the game the story could still be bent to fit the class and LI, but I like the idea of each available love interest getting it's own completely different story/romance arc. That would probably take up too much time and resources though.

It's weird, until recently I never noticed that Templars wear skirts... which is terrible considering the amount of times I've played DA:O and DA2 lol. Urgh, I'm gonna be so disappointed if we don't get Cullen as a LI in DA3... Hell they gave us Anders and he was only in DA: Awakenings, Cullen's been in DA:O and DA2 and has a pretty big fan base, as big if not bigger than Anders originally had when he first made his appearance AND he was played by the same voice actor before they changed Anders voice in DA2.

What do you reckon our chances are of getting him? It seems odd that they would give him such a big role to play in DA2 only to let it go to waste. Plus they gave us Isabela and Merrill seemingly at random and they had tiny parts in DA:O, so they obviously like giving us characters we're familar with. Maybe they don't realise how popular Cullen actually is?

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LolaLei wrote...

Aw thanks.

Even if you didn't pick a mage in the game the story could still be bent to fit the class and LI, but I like the idea of each available love interest getting it's own completely different story/romance arc. That would probably take up too much time and resources though.

It's weird, until recently I never noticed that Templars wear skirts... which is terrible considering the amount of times I've played DA:O and DA2 lol.


I could still write a  mage fic if I chose. :) The story I'm writing now has a main character who's a Templar through and through. She's a bit hard on mages and it's up to Cullen to soften her up. It's just that it's too different from the angle of Cullen keeping himself away. It's actually my OFC who has duties keeping her from romantic entanglements. :bandit: Cullen is left trying to be the best friend and commander he can be. He makes his feelings known and believes they are returned but must accept that she puts her duty first. Well it's more of a promise she's keeping, really. Eventually, he does get a little snippy about her denial of their... thing... and she must discover which part of her heart matters more. All while they save the day together! :D

I like the idea of the LIs getting separate story arcs rather than evolving over the course of central gameplay. They try to do some of that in DA2 but not enough, in my opinion.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 11 avril 2012 - 04:53 .


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Oooh. Sounds really interesting! No wonder you give really good tips at fan fics; it sounds like you write stories/fan fics more than I ever had. :-)

Oh, and hello everyone =). I can now finally post here; yay! (strangely, I couldn't before--I think because I don't own a copy of DA 2--yet). Until now, I've been reading all of the old posts in the first Knight-Captain Cullen's Discussion thread, and it looks like I missed out on some good and funny topics. I keep reading the 18th page of the thread in particular--it's that funny.

It's nice to find topics like these when I struggle to admit to liking a video game character to even myself. I don't have to feel embarrassed by it anymore, or at least I should feel less that way lol. >< Now, I can at least say to my fiance that there are other people that probably like him with a more explicit imagination than I have--not that that's a bad thing either. xD.

Lola, I love your ideas in the post that Samara quoted in the post previous to your last post (sorry if that's confusing; the post with the long quote, is what I meant :P). Funny thing is, recently when I was looking at screenshots I took of my character and Cullen kissing, I thought it looked rather uncomfortable for my character with her arms having to stretch around his pauldrons and chest piece! lol. As for how he felt, he should take off his gloves at the very least so he can feel the warmth or coldness of her hands. I can't believe I've been thinking this, but every now and then, I wonder if he could take advantage of having a skirt like the male mages. Anders said to Oghren, "Oh, you don't know the story behind the robes? You know how strict things are in the Circle, right? Of course you do. Well, the robes make quick trysts in the corner easy. No laces or buttons. You're done before the templars catch on." I must not be comfortable if the templars have tried doing the same.

Today, either when I was in class or when I was being driven home from my last class, I was actually trying to picture what Cullen wears when he's back in his room. The reason I was trying to picture him like that is because I have finally started writing ideas down for a fan fiction I was considering to write since I first joined the Knight-Captain Cullen's group about a year ago, and considering having my mage sneak up to his room in the templar quarters, when she knows he'll be alone (if he's sharing a room; I am still wondering if they all share rooms or have separate, since there's only so many rooms shown in the game). Assuming he doesn't share a room with someone, I was trying to picture my mage--who I'm going to make a shapeshifter again just so I can write about her as one, visiting him shapeshifted as a domestic cat. If he's not in his armor, I'm trying to picture what he'd be wearing or what kind of pajamas -- depending on what time of the day it is. I'm just trying to set the scene up if I end up writing a scene that I kind of want to but am too embarrassed to at the same time xP. Then there's also the whole idea of, having my character being in the room with doing something when a templar knocks on the door. Cullen will have to put something on, if not his armor, something that he could put on quickly and easily, before the guy comes barging in (if the door doesn't lock).

Another thing I have thought about the last time I sided with the templars (or by looking at the screenshot I took when my mage returned to the tower when Cullen was the only one there, after finishing the Broken Circle), it could just be the fact he was worn out and stressed from being tortured by the blood mages, but I can't help but want to believe the expression in his face when he asks my mage what she's doing back at the tower, that he looks like he wants her to stay, but at the same time, knows she can't, and if not before, now knows (or assumes) that their relationship wouldn't last. Here's my screenshot:
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In any case, a year ago, when I think this was taken, and when I was first started thinking about my possible fan fiction, I thought that as she was about to leave, he either kisses her and then that proceeds to something else since no one was in the tower but them, plus her companions (she could just shoo her companions who followed her inside lol)...

Someone mentioned recently in a topic, I can't remember where, that they were going to try reselling their DA2 and they had only kept it to replay Anders' kiss. I will admit, I really liked watching Anders' kiss too. So, now, when I picture Cullen passionately kissing my character, I try to picture him making the "panting" sound (at least that's what the subtitles says it is), or when I'm watching the romance mod I try to mentally add the sound to the game. >< Do you all think something's wrong with me now? lol. I do have OCD (as in having been diagnosed), so, that might explain much at least to me lol.

Oh, it's 3:43 AM here. I forgot what I was even talking about... But, as you can see, I've been playing DAO too much--specifically the mage origin. =P

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Those are some mighty fine ideas for fanfic there, LolaLei. I'm no writer so someone needs to get to work. Chop chop monkies! Mama needs a new story! Posted Image

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Dunquixote: It never crossed my mind to return to the tower after completing the Broken Circle quest to see if there was any more dialogue with Cullen, tsk I feel like I've missed out now. Are there any videos on YouTube of the discussion they are having in the pic you took? What does he say to your mage when she returns? Is he still rude to her or shy and stuttery like before?

As for what Cullen wears off duty/in the evenings I always imagined it to be an off-white loose untucked white shirt and brown linen trousers or a black version of that outfit, for when he's feeling dark and broody! I guess something kinda like this but with less douchebagery LOL:

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Also, did you know the voice of Anders in Dragon Age: Awakening is actually done by the same guy who does Cullen's voice? So when Anders is talking about why mages wear skirts, you can pretend its Cullen saying it lol.

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meanieweenie wrote...

Those are some mighty fine ideas for fanfic there, LolaLei. I'm no writer so someone needs to get to work. Chop chop monkies! Mama needs a new story! Posted Image


Aw thanks, I might have a crack at writing it myself... I'm more used to writing video game reviews than fanfic though lol.

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EDIT for forgetting this part: Welcome, dunquixote!! Yes, I also found it comforting to realize I wasn't alone in my adoration of a pixel man. Hmm, now I have to go back and check page 18... ;)

If you check out the Cullen club on deviantart, there are many variations there on less, erm, uncomfortable clothes for Cullen that might give you some headcanon ideas, Dunquixote. I can't help but think of a rule(?) I was once told about Air Force Academy recruits in the U.S., that they didn't always have to wear a uniform but had to have the Academy insignia on whatever they wore... so the rugby players just made ALOT of t-shirts. As a result, I keep picturing Cullen in anything that has the templar logo. Mmm, like the following wet!Cullen by ~*yuhime.

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And, Lolalei, that was a delicious fic set up. You should just plow ahead and write it! I wouldn't worry about how "good" you think it is... just enjoy plotting it. That's what finally got me over the hurdle to start writing -- if there's a story you want to see and can't find, then you must write it.

Also, I agree -- having more companion-centric quests would be great! Especially being able to switch to the companion as your PC for that part. Neat idea.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 11 avril 2012 - 11:48 .


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Oooo I like the idea that his off duty attire has to have the Templar insignia on it. It would make sense that they'd still have to have something on them baring the Templar symbol to let people know who they are. It also makes things a little more dramatic for Cullen because even out of his armour he can never be "just Cullen" his duty as a Templar will always be what defines him... until of course he ditches the order to be with a mage... or runs around naked (eithers good!) Ooo I wonder if they brand/tattoo all Templars upon joining the order? Mmmm, Cullen with a tattoo *drools*

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Hm, I was browsing through the "who do you want for a companion in DA3" thread and someone wrote: "The story of Cullen is over, there is no need to bring him up anymore." - It got me thinking, maybe he's right? Where could they possibly take his story since he is unlikely to ever leave the Templar order to become a companion. Someone else also pointed out that it seems likely we will get a seeker and it's heavily suggested that we will have another Grey Warden, already thats two warrior tanks, there would be no room for a third, especially if they plan on bringing back old party members from the previous two games to be new ones in DA3 like they heavily hinted during the PAX Q & A.

Anyone got any counter ideas to get my hopes up again? I'll be really disappointed if he isn't a companion/LI, it's like Bioware are tempting us with something we can't have... Ironic really since that's the concept of Cullen's original story from DA:O that made us like him so much lol.

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There could be a few possibilities : 1) He could get booted from the order for going against Meredith and causing more dissension withing the Templars. or 2) He left on his own accord because he didn't agree with there being no middle ground or chance of compromise.Perhaps he is even recruted by the Seekers? There could be many opportunities, IMO.

Thoughts?

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meanieweenie wrote...

There could be a few possibilities : 1) He could get booted from the order for going against Meredith and causing more dissension withing the Templars. or 2) He left on his own accord because he didn't agree with there being no middle ground or chance of compromise.Perhaps he is even recruted by the Seekers? There could be many opportunities, IMO.

Thoughts?


That's a possibility.

I guess I'm just a bit worried after seeing the concept armour art of the Seeker (that was blatantly Cassandra) and some random Grey Warden... I know it's all just hypothetical at the moment and it was just to show us what armour would look like on different character types but I worry because I'm not sure just how far into the development stages they are.

In DA2 there was Averline and Carver that were warrior tanks, so thats 2 warrior slots (3 if you count warrior Hawke) I doubt they would give us the choice of 3 tanks (not including the PC) ... Then again, maybe they didn't use a Templar for the concept art because it would have been obvious that Cullen would be the choice of companion. A lot of people seem to want Cullen though.

What was it like after DA: Awakenings when everyone was after Anders as a companion for DA2? Did he have as much hype as Cullen or more?

*Edit*

I just read a nice idea some guy put forward for a way in which Cullen could join as a companion:

"Cullen - The events preceding the disappearance of the Champion caused the Knight-Captain to undergo a crisis of faith. Years ago, he saw first-hand the destruction caused by blood magic left unchecked. Now, he
has seen the destruction caused by the blindness and unrestrained zeal of his own order. Tormented by his conscience, he left the Templar Order. The next year of his life was one he would prefer to forget. Lyrium withdrawl drove him to the brink of madness, but he survived the ordeal and slowly regained his sanity... and a clarity he never dreamed possible. He has learned the value of moderation, but he has also gained a healthy distrust of dogma. He is still wary of magic and those who wield it, but experience has taught him the the true evil is the conscienceless use of power of any kind. He would like to see order restored to Thedas, but believes that genocide is too high a price to pay for it."

I really like that idea, especially if they lighten him up a bit and give him a sense of humour, I love Greg Ellis' delivery of lines for humous characters. Though I'd still like to see him battling some inner turmoil regarding relationships.

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One thing I want to point out about the possible Grey Warden is that it doesn't have to be a warrior. Templars by definition, yes they're warriors, but GWs can be warriors, rogues or mages. So, in my mind, it's really just one confirmed warrior with the Seeker outfit. As for how Cullen could leave the Order...? Perhaps Kirkwall falls into utter ruin after Cassandra leaves? During her interrogation of Varric, she alludes to war coming and soon. It makes it sound as if things are bad but not quite open war yet. And even if it was open war, who's to say Cullen was still around during her talk with Varric?

In short, what I think is that things could have changed to a point where Cullen had to leave or be killed by rampant mages or something. Perhaps he was ordered to go elsewhere to help keep another circle from falling and gets waylaid by the new PCs quest? Maybe he chooses to strike out on his own because the Kirkwall circle is gone and he wants to go where he can be useful and seeks out trouble? I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility for Cullen to leave. Shirk his duty to the Templars? No. Leave to do that duty somewhere else and be effective? Yes.

How he gets tangled up in the new PCs quest is a little trickier to answer. Perhaps the PC IS on a quest for the Chantry. Maybe someone in the Chantry is trying to end the war? Maybe they want to end it in a way that's bad for mages? Or good? Maybe the PC has to discover they've been misled? Point is, it being Chantry business means that it could be Cullen's business as well. If the gameplay isn't about Chantry business, I have to wonder why there's a Seeker involved. Unless the Seeker went rogue?

I don't think Cullen's story is done. He's spent the last two games growing and has reached an honorable conviction about templar duty. It'd be a shame if he couldn't use that to change things and help build a new order.

Edit: Ooooooo! Unless Cullen becomes a Seeker and that's who the Seeker armor is for? :o:D:bandit:



meanieweenie wrote...

There could be a few possibilities :
1) He could get booted from the order for going against Meredith and
causing more dissension withing the Templars. or 2) He left on his own
accord because he didn't agree with there being no middle ground or
chance of compromise.Perhaps he is even recruted by the Seekers? There
could be many opportunities, IMO.

Thoughts?


Oh! I just saw this! Great minds think alike, eh? :D

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 11 avril 2012 - 06:05 .


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LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

There could be a few possibilities : 1) He could get booted from the order for going against Meredith and causing more dissension withing the Templars. or 2) He left on his own accord because he didn't agree with there being no middle ground or chance of compromise.Perhaps he is even recruted by the Seekers? There could be many opportunities, IMO.

Thoughts?


That's a possibility.

I guess I'm just a bit worried after seeing the concept armour art of the Seeker (that was blatantly Cassandra) and some random Grey Warden... I know it's all just hypothetical at the moment and it was just to show us what armour would look like on different character types but I worry because I'm not sure just how far into the development stages they are.

In DA2 there was Averline and Carver that were warrior tanks, so thats 2 warrior slots (3 if you count warrior Hawke) I doubt they would give us the choice of 3 tanks (not including the PC) ... Then again, maybe they didn't use a Templar for the concept art because it would have been obvious that Cullen would be the choice of companion. A lot of people seem to want Cullen though.

What was it like after DA: Awakenings when everyone was after Anders as a companion for DA2? Did he have as much hype as Cullen or more?


Awe I got discouraged after that too 
Wait but isn't Cassandra a rogue? I don't think they clarified on that yet, I always pictured her as a rogue but you could be right. If he's not a companion I'll be really dissapointed, not at Bioware of course since they never said anything but just in general. Then I'll go into a deep long depression of what-could-of-been...
not really but you know... :blush:

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SamaraDraven wrote...

One thing I want to point out about the possible Grey Warden is that it doesn't have to be a warrior. Templars by definition, yes they're warriors, but GWs can be warriors, rogues or mages. So, in my mind, it's really just one confirmed warrior with the Seeker outfit. As for how Cullen could leave the Order...? Perhaps Kirkwall falls into utter ruin after Cassandra leaves? During her interrogation of Varric, she alludes to war coming and soon. It makes it sound as if things are bad but not quite open war yet. And even if it was open war, who's to say Cullen was still around during her talk with Varric?

In short, what I think is that things could have changed to a point where Cullen had to leave or be killed by rampant mages or something. Perhaps he was ordered to go elsewhere to help keep another circle from falling and gets waylaid by the new PCs quest? Maybe he chooses to strike out on his own because the Kirkwall circle is gone and he wants to go where he can be useful and seeks out trouble? I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility for Cullen to leave. Shirk his duty to the Templars? No. Leave to do that duty somewhere else and be effective? Yes.

How he gets tangled up in the new PCs quest is a little trickier to answer. Perhaps the PC IS on a quest for the Chantry. Maybe someone in the Chantry is trying to end the war? Maybe they want to end it in a way that's bad for mages? Or good? Maybe the PC has to discover they've been misled? Point is, it being Chantry business means that it could be Cullen's business as well. If the gameplay isn't about Chantry business, I have to wonder why there's a Seeker involved. Unless the Seeker went rogue?

I don't think Cullen's story is done. He's spent the last two games growing and has reached an honorable conviction about templar duty. It'd be a shame if he couldn't use that to change things and help build a new order.

Edit: Ooooooo! Unless Cullen becomes a Seeker and that's who the Seeker armor is for? :o:D:bandit:



meanieweenie wrote...

There could be a few possibilities :
1) He could get booted from the order for going against Meredith and
causing more dissension withing the Templars. or 2) He left on his own
accord because he didn't agree with there being no middle ground or
chance of compromise.Perhaps he is even recruted by the Seekers? There
could be many opportunities, IMO.

Thoughts?


Oh! I just saw this! Great minds think alike, eh? :D


It never occured to me that the Grey Warden might be something other than a warrior... I'm such a dumb arse sometimes. I guess because it's armour I automatically thought warrior, forgetting that Grey Wardens all wear armour regardless of their class.

I've not done much research into Seekers, what are they exactly? Could a Templar easily make the transition to one? It would be weird seeing him in something other than Templar uniform... unless he was naked, that wouldn't be weird at all, quite the opposite infact! :P

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Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

There could be a few possibilities : 1) He could get booted from the order for going against Meredith and causing more dissension withing the Templars. or 2) He left on his own accord because he didn't agree with there being no middle ground or chance of compromise.Perhaps he is even recruted by the Seekers? There could be many opportunities, IMO.

Thoughts?


That's a possibility.

I guess I'm just a bit worried after seeing the concept armour art of the Seeker (that was blatantly Cassandra) and some random Grey Warden... I know it's all just hypothetical at the moment and it was just to show us what armour would look like on different character types but I worry because I'm not sure just how far into the development stages they are.

In DA2 there was Averline and Carver that were warrior tanks, so thats 2 warrior slots (3 if you count warrior Hawke) I doubt they would give us the choice of 3 tanks (not including the PC) ... Then again, maybe they didn't use a Templar for the concept art because it would have been obvious that Cullen would be the choice of companion. A lot of people seem to want Cullen though.

What was it like after DA: Awakenings when everyone was after Anders as a companion for DA2? Did he have as much hype as Cullen or more?


Awe I got discouraged after that too 
Wait but isn't Cassandra a rogue? I don't think they clarified on that yet, I always pictured her as a rogue but you could be right. If he's not a companion I'll be really dissapointed, not at Bioware of course since they never said anything but just in general. Then I'll go into a deep long depression of what-could-of-been...
not really but you know... :blush:


She does look like she should be a rogue doesn't she. I suppose it also makes sense that they probably showed us the concept armour on two different class/gender types and I just presumed they were both warriors. It's just that bloody armour thing always throws me off, I automatically associate it with warriors lol.

I keep having all these ideas for things that could/might be in the game, knowing me I'll be really disappointed when I finally play it and realise it's nothing like the image I have in my head lol. Man, I hope they don't hit him with the ugly stick like they did to Alistair... even Anders isn't as pretty as he was in Awakening. Cullen was definitely one of the lucky ones there.

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LolaLei wrote...

Dunquixote: It never crossed my mind to return to the tower after completing the Broken Circle quest to see if there was any more dialogue with Cullen, tsk I feel like I've missed out now. Are there any videos on YouTube of the discussion they are having in the pic you took? What does he say to your mage when she returns? Is he still rude to her or shy and stuttery like before?

As for what Cullen wears off duty/in the evenings I always imagined it to be an off-white loose untucked white shirt and brown linen trousers or a black version of that outfit, for when he's feeling dark and broody! I guess something kinda like this but with less douchebagery LOL:

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Also, did you know the voice of Anders in Dragon Age: Awakening is actually done by the same guy who does Cullen's voice? So when Anders is talking about why mages wear skirts, you can pretend its Cullen saying it lol.


Yup. :]  Greg Ellis voiced over quite a number of characters in DAO too; Cesar, Patter Gritch (I think that's what his name was), and that guy in Honnleath, etc...

Here you go. :]


Cullen: You've returned?  Why?  All the other templars have left for the war.  There is nothing here but a tower in shambles.

I always pick: "Why are you here then?"  To me, I interpret this question as her way of saying that she came back just to see him :).

Cullen: Greagoir said that I had been through enough...  that I need to...  recover

Cullen: (Sigh) You should go...  a great battle awaits you, does it not?
^He also says this line if you pick the third dialogue choice, "I needed to look around one last time."

And the first choice, all he says is something like, "Very well.  May the Maker watch over you.""  I can't remember for sure though.

Hmm.... Ignoring the quite repelling face, I think I can see Cullen wearing that...  

Thanks for the welcome, Muse :]. 

I've not done much research into Seekers, what are they
exactly? Could a Templar easily make the transition to one? It would be
weird seeing him in something other than Templar uniform... unless he
was naked, that wouldn't be weird at all, quite the opposite infact! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]


I like the thought of him being in templar armor more than in seeker armor; and I wouldn've have a problem with a naked Cullen either lol!

Modifié par Dunquixote, 11 avril 2012 - 06:36 .


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LolaLei

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Thanks Dunquixote, I can't believe I missed out on those lines. Poor Cullen, I wish they had added a little more dialogue with him during that scene, it's almost like he never had feelings for her at all. I wonder if, in DA3 we play as a mage and have a relationship with him, will he pull an Alistair stunt and end the relationship towards the end of the game if he decides to become chief Templar (or whatever the top dog in the order is called lol.)

If they do use him for an companion/LI I hope they give him a bit of a sense of humour, he's so serious.

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[quote]LolaLei wrote...


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It never occured to me that the Grey Warden might be something other than a warrior... I'm such a dumb arse sometimes. I guess because it's armour I automatically thought warrior, forgetting that Grey Wardens all wear armour regardless of their class.

I've not done much research into Seekers, what are they exactly? Could a Templar easily make the transition to one? It would be weird seeing him in something other than Templar uniform... unless he was naked, that wouldn't be weird at all, quite the opposite infact! :P

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Here's what the wiki says on Seekers:

"The organization appears to act as a check and balance to the power of the Templar Order, acting in a secretive, investigative and interrogative capacity to root out corruption and protect the Chantry from internal and external threats. They also may become involved in the hunting of particularly cunning apostates. Templars fear and despise the seekers, as they must usually involve themselves when the templars are failing in their duties."

I can easily see Cullen joining or helping the Seekers given what happens in Kirkwall.

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LolaLei wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

There could be a few possibilities : 1) He could get booted from the order for going against Meredith and causing more dissension withing the Templars. or 2) He left on his own accord because he didn't agree with there being no middle ground or chance of compromise.Perhaps he is even recruted by the Seekers? There could be many opportunities, IMO.

Thoughts?


That's a possibility.

I guess I'm just a bit worried after seeing the concept armour art of the Seeker (that was blatantly Cassandra) and some random Grey Warden... I know it's all just hypothetical at the moment and it was just to show us what armour would look like on different character types but I worry because I'm not sure just how far into the development stages they are.

In DA2 there was Averline and Carver that were warrior tanks, so thats 2 warrior slots (3 if you count warrior Hawke) I doubt they would give us the choice of 3 tanks (not including the PC) ... Then again, maybe they didn't use a Templar for the concept art because it would have been obvious that Cullen would be the choice of companion. A lot of people seem to want Cullen though.

What was it like after DA: Awakenings when everyone was after Anders as a companion for DA2? Did he have as much hype as Cullen or more?


Awe I got discouraged after that too 
Wait but isn't Cassandra a rogue? I don't think they clarified on that yet, I always pictured her as a rogue but you could be right. If he's not a companion I'll be really dissapointed, not at Bioware of course since they never said anything but just in general. Then I'll go into a deep long depression of what-could-of-been...
not really but you know... :blush:


She does look like she should be a rogue doesn't she. I suppose it also makes sense that they probably showed us the concept armour on two different class/gender types and I just presumed they were both warriors. It's just that bloody armour thing always throws me off, I automatically associate it with warriors lol.

I keep having all these ideas for things that could/might be in the game, knowing me I'll be really disappointed when I finally play it and realise it's nothing like the image I have in my head lol. Man, I hope they don't hit him with the ugly stick like they did to Alistair... even Anders isn't as pretty as he was in Awakening. Cullen was definitely one of the lucky ones there.


Oh I know! I've been imagining all these little scenarios for DA3 in my head and it'll probably be something completely different lol. I remember it was the same thing for DA2. Ah, I love that feeling when playing a new game for the first time not knowing what's about to happen. But yes I really hope Cassandra's not a warrior. I remember Leliana was wearing that armor and she's a rogue. So maybe please yes let Cullen be the other warrior. I imagine that grey warden they showed us is a warrior though since they used massive armor but who knows he may not even be a real person(well in the game I mean) it could all be hypothetical...:whistle:

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meanieweenie: I guess it depends on his frame of mind/stance within the Templar order. If he's had enough of all the bull**** then he could well become a Seeker, though I suspect that will be reserved for Cassandra. I'm not sure I could ever see Cullen ditching his Templar duties without a good excuse, unless he feared for his life or was kicked out.

Jasmine96: I wondered if maybe that Grey Warden was supposed to be Nathaniel since it had his hairstyle etc... I dunno how I'd feel about him as a companion. I liked him a lot but we already had him in DA:A... that being said we'd already had Anders as a companion in DA:A and he came back again in DA2. I'm not sure having another game with two broody males is a wise idea, people complained enough with Anders/Fenris, plus the devs said themselves that Anders/Fenris were too similar personality wise though. I suspect Cullen and Nathaniel's personalities would also be too much a like, unless they liven one of them up a little.

Fortunately I didn't have any preconceived ideas about DA2 'cause I'd literally just finished my first ever run through of DA:O when it came out so I was able to jump from one to the other. I actually really hated DA2 when I first played it because I had expected it to be like DA:O and I sorta played through waiting for the interesting stuff to happen and then just as it started to up the pace, it finished and I was like WTF just happened? Eventually though I grew to enjoy DA2 once I accepted that it wasn't anything like DA:O aside from it's characters.

I do love playing new games completely blind, I love the feeling of not knowing what the **** you're doing, who you're going to meet or where the story is leading you. Unfortunately I ruined ME3 for myself by reading spoilers... probably just as well really considering those endings LOL.

Modifié par LolaLei, 11 avril 2012 - 07:39 .


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LOL! My fiance always watches the cutscenes for most games on youtube first, before playing the game. I never could understand that. I've only done that once, and fortunately that didn't ruin the game for me.

Unfortunately, after playing DAO for my very first time (my fiance bought me it for my birthday last May--the Xbox 360 version), I went straight to Dragon Age 2, expecting it to be just as good as DAO... =/ But, now that I think about it, even though it took me this long to realize it, all of the things I really don't like about the game are really minor things--awful dialogue, banters (in my opinion), annoying voice overs (there were a handful of good ones too though), oh and most of the character models I disliked except for the Dalish Elf keeper, Cullen, Anders (though every time he opens his mouth, his teeth look really jagged or missing; it bothers me a bit), Nathaniel, and maybe a few others; I also liked the spells and battle system better in DAO than in DA2.  The combat dialogue and using the staff to attack, looked more stupid to me (no offense) than it did in DAO. The plot to the story, however, was excellent. I didn't think so at first, but having been thinking about it for the last week, from posting in the Cullen fan group and thinking about my fan fiction, I've finally came to terms with DA2. Funny thing too, is when a friend and I were thinking about working on a story together (not a fan fiction), one of my ideas I jotted down was a war b/t the mages and templars--and I hadn't realized or at least relooked at the fact that's what the plot of DA2 is/was heading towards, until now, having given it more thought.

With DA2 as an exception, I like playing games completely blind as well...

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LolaLei wrote...
Jasmine96: I wondered if maybe that Grey Warden was supposed to be Nathaniel since it had his hairstyle etc... I dunno how I'd feel about him as a companion. I liked him a lot but we already had him in DA:A... that being said we'd already had Anders as a companion in DA:A and he came back again in DA2. I'm not sure having another game with two broody males is a wise idea, people complained enough with Anders/Fenris, plus the devs said themselves that Anders/Fenris were too similar personality wise though. I suspect Cullen and Nathaniel's personalities would also be too much a like, unless they liven one of them up a little.

Fortunately I didn't have any preconceived ideas about DA2 'cause I'd literally just finished my first ever run through of DA:O when it came out so I was able to jump from one to the other. I actually really hated DA2 when I first played it because I had expected it to be like DA:O and I sorta played through waiting for the interesting stuff to happen and then just as it started to up the pace, it finished and I was like WTF just happened? Eventually though I grew to enjoy DA2 once I accepted that it wasn't anything like DA:O aside from it's characters.

I do love playing new games completely blind, I love the feeling of not knowing what the **** you're doing, who you're going to meet or where the story is leading you. Unfortunately I ruined ME3 for myself by reading spoilers... probably just as well really considering those endings LOL.


I think David Gaider or one of the devs mentioned Nathaniel  wouldn't be coming back as anything major since he could die twice. Although I wouldn't mind him coming back but I would much rather have Cullen.
Same for me, at first I was really dissapointed with DA2 but I like it now, I've played through both of the games so many times though that I'm probably getting sick of them lol. I'm hoping DA3 will be even better than both. And if it has Cullen that means yes, yes it will :P
haha well I'm hoping so....
I always try to resist the spoilers but they're just so tempting 
I also just read something about why Ander's Awakening VA voiced Cullen in DA2 instead of Anders (considering Anders was a main character in dao) and they said it was because with the VA's schedule he only had time to voice a smaller character or something like that
hope that's not the case for DA3 :(

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Dunquixote wrote...

Oooh. Sounds really interesting! No wonder you give really good tips at fan fics; it sounds like you write stories/fan fics more than I ever had. :-)



Thank you. :happy: I write a lot of fic but I publish very little. :blush: But I guess I do spend too much time dreaming up bunnies and plot devices. :D Oh! By the way, I forgot to welcome you here. So... welcome to our little corner of fandom obsession.:wizard:

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I didn't even realise you could kill Nathaniel once, let alone twice LOL!

Do you guys wanna see how much I hated DA2 when I first played it:

http://www.thevomito...arative-review/

Once DA3 comes out I'll review it and explain that I actually grew to like DA2 in the end lol.