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[R2s Muse]

You know, I thought that Witch Hunt and all that eluvian business took place earlier than 9:33, although I see the wiki says that in more than one spot. During Witch Hunt, there's some gossip that says Cullen has gone to the chantry in Greenfell for healing, which I always imagine happening before he heads to Kirkwall. (you can see the vid here)

I guess I always figured that those events took place not long after the end of the Blight, so 9:31-ish, which would still fit with Hawke first meeting Cullen in Kirkwall in 9:31. But, there are lots of continuity errors with the early DA2 dates (like Anders' timing as well). I'd also suggest picking one and just go with it.

Edit #2: FWIW, the BW page for Witch Hunt
says: "Nearly a year has passed since the Archdemon's death, and word
has reached the Wardens that Morrigan has returned to Ferelden."
Suggesting 9:32-ish.

Edit for ToP:

Modifié par R2s Muse, 12 avril 2012 - 11:45 .

[LolaLei]

R2s Muse wrote...

You know, I thought that Witch Hunt and all that eluvian business took place earlier than 9:33, although I see the wiki says that in more than one spot. During Witch Hunt, there's some gossip that says Cullen has gone to the chantry in Greenfell for healing, which I always imagine happening before he heads to Kirkwall. (you can see the vid here)

I guess I always figured that those events took place not long after the end of the Blight, so 9:31-ish, which would still fit with Hawke first meeting Cullen in Kirkwall in 9:31. But, there are lots of continuity errors with the early DA2 dates (like Anders' timing as well). I'd also suggest picking one and just go with it.

Edit #2: FWIW, the BW page for Witch Hunt
says: "Nearly a year has passed since the Archdemon's death, and word
has reached the Wardens that Morrigan has returned to Ferelden."
Suggesting 9:32-ish.

Edit for ToP:

D'awww look at his little curls!

Part of me kinda hopes he grows it out in DA3 he'd have damn sexy wavy hair! ... That being said it might make him look too unrecognisable.

[LolaLei]

So I have a question for you all:

We've all noticed that Bioware love their doomed romances (Thane and Jacob in ME3 being a prime example of this... actually, all the romances in ME3 given the current endings lol. )

Hypothetically, what will you do if they finally give us Cullen as a love interest in DA3 and it's perfect... more than perfect infact, they give us a long drawn out romance arc that feels natural yet dramatic as you watch him battle with his heart and his head, an indepth romance/loyalty quest that affects your character and the world around her accordingly and "down time" in which you spend a few moments with him alone to relax and get to know him better (like the dates in ME3.) Then at long last after 3 friggin' games you finally get to "make ze lurve" and the sex scene is a bloody marvel to behold! BUT towards the end of the game Cullen dies (for whatever reason) or dumps you to become Chief Templar extraordinaire, and there's nothing you can do to save him or talk him out of leaving.

Would you guys be angry? Even if the romance and his reason for dying/leaving was portrayed and handled really well? Would you still go a head with his romance even though you know it will end badly? Would you fall into an almighty nerd rage and complain? (Like I did with the ME3 endings. )

I'm curious to hear your thoughts because it was a topic that came up in one of the other threads and I wondered what your reactions would be, especially your first reaction upon experiencing this travesty for the first time.

Modifié par LolaLei, 12 avril 2012 - 08:50 .

[meanieweenie]

LolaLei wrote...

So I have a question for you all:

We've all noticed that Bioware love their doomed romances (Thane and Jacob in ME3 being a prime example of this... actually, all the romances in ME3 given the current endings lol. )

Hypothetically, what will you do if they finally give us Cullen as a love interest in DA3 and it's perfect... more than perfect infact, they give us a long drawn out romance arc that feels natural yet dramatic as you watch him battle with his heart and his head, an indepth romance/loyalty quest that affects your character and the world around her accordingly and "down time" in which you spend a few moments with him alone to relax and get to know him better (like the dates in ME3.) Then at long last after 3 friggin' games you finally get to "make ze lurve" and the sex scene is a bloody marvel to behold! BUT towards the end of the game Cullen dies (for whatever reason) or dumps you to become Chief Templar extraordinaire, and there's nothing you can do to save him or talk him out of leaving.

Would you guys be angry? Even if the romance and his reason for dying/leaving was portrayed and handled really well? Would you still go a head with his romance even though you know it will end badly? Would you fall into an almighty nerd rage and complain? (Like I did with the ME3 endings. )

I'm curious to hear your thoughts because it was a topic that came up in one of the other threads and I wondered what your reactions would be, especially your first reaction upon experiencing this travesty for the first time.

I'd be very disappointed, I'm sure. I would hope that there could be a second outcome that would satisfy the need for a happy ending ... kind of like they did with Alistair. I love a good heart wrenching scene now and again but always seem to lean towards happily ever after. Real life is cruel enough. LOL

[LolaLei]

I have this sneaking suspicion that this is the kind of route they'll take with Cullen, he seems like such a tragic figure and I know David Gaider loves tearing our hearts out so I won't be surprised if Cullen's is a doomed romance. Usually I would expect a "get out of jail free" card to be thrown into the mix like they did with the dark ritual to save Alistair and your Warden in DA:O, but Bioware seem to be taking a different route with romances recently so I'll be interested to see what stance DA3 takes in the bittersweet stakes.

I don't mind tragic romances, I'd be a bit gutted if Cullen draws the short straw because I'd like to see the poor guy happy for once, but if they portray the tragedy correctly then I think I could still appreciate it for it's beautiful story telling, even if I would be royally cheesed off lol.

Modifié par LolaLei, 12 avril 2012 - 09:22 .

[Dunquixote]

R2s Muse wrote...

You know, I thought that Witch Hunt and all that eluvian business took place earlier than 9:33, although I see the wiki says that in more than one spot. During Witch Hunt, there's some gossip that says Cullen has gone to the chantry in Greenfell for healing, which I always imagine happening before he heads to Kirkwall. (you can see the vid here)

I guess I always figured that those events took place not long after the end of the Blight, so 9:31-ish, which would still fit with Hawke first meeting Cullen in Kirkwall in 9:31. But, there are lots of continuity errors with the early DA2 dates (like Anders' timing as well). I'd also suggest picking one and just go with it.

Edit #2: FWIW, the BW page for Witch Hunt
says: "Nearly a year has passed since the Archdemon's death, and word
has reached the Wardens that Morrigan has returned to Ferelden."
Suggesting 9:32-ish.

Edit for ToP:

Yup.  I printed up the timeline for the evens under the Dragon year. :]; there it says 9:33

Oh!  I might have my prologue done soon.  It depends on how much it ends up being when I copy what I have down so far from my notebook to Microsoft Word.  I could hardly sleep last night because I wanted to write so much lol!

LolaLei wrote...

So I have a question for you all:

We've
all noticed that Bioware love their doomed romances (Thane and Jacob in
ME3 being a prime example of this... actually, all the romances in ME3
given the current endings lol. )

Hypothetically, what will you
do if they finally give us Cullen as a love interest in DA3 and it's
perfect... more than perfect infact, they give us a long drawn out
romance arc that feels natural yet dramatic as you watch him battle with
his heart and his head, an indepth romance/loyalty quest that affects
your character and the world around her accordingly and "down time" in
which you spend a few moments with him alone to relax and get to know
him better (like the dates in ME3.) Then at long last after 3 friggin'
games you finally get to "make ze lurve" and the sex scene is a bloody
marvel to behold! BUT towards the end of the game Cullen dies (for
whatever reason) or dumps you to become Chief Templar extraordinaire,
and there's nothing you can do to save him or talk him out of leaving.

Would
you guys be angry? Even if the romance and his reason for dying/leaving
was portrayed and handled really well? Would you still go a head with
his romance even though you know it will end badly? Would you fall into
an almighty nerd rage and complain? (Like I did with the ME3 endings. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie])

I'm
curious to hear your thoughts because it was a topic that came up in
one of the other threads and I wondered what your reactions would be,
especially your first reaction upon experiencing this travesty for the
first time.

Well, if the rest of the content is much better than DA2 and has a conclusive ending, I would be pissed but not uber-I'm going to throw it across the room-rage quit pissed. lol
I'd probably think about rewriting the story of the game or modifying it in a fan fic where there is a good ending for cullen and my mage.

Modifié par Dunquixote, 12 avril 2012 - 10:20 .

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Would you guys be angry? Even if the romance and his reason for dying/leaving was portrayed and handled really well? Would you still go a head with his romance even though you know it will end badly? Would you fall into an almighty nerd rage and complain? (Like I did with the ME3 endings. )

Yes. Yes. Hell yes. Yes.   [and mind you, I still haven't played ME3 yet, so don't know what all the almighty nerd rage is about, altho I'm starting guess...]

[Dunquixote]

^I don't know the details, but I'm sorry if I spoiled it ><

Does anyone have an estimation of how tall Cullen is?  I might not end up using it, but just now, while I'm typing copying my notes onto Microsoft word, seeing how I'm using italics rather than using quotation marks when someone is thinking, not to mention that I'm bad at varying the structure from "he was thinking," "he thought," etc; I'm trying to insert something in front of what was going to open up my story.  I could always go "A tall handsome templar," but that sounds too bland... <.<

Modifié par Dunquixote, 12 avril 2012 - 10:25 .

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote: In theory I'd like to think I'd be alright about it and I would appreciate the tragic ending from an "artistic" *shudders* point of view. But then I think about how attached I was to Alistair when I played DA:O, had that dark ritual offer not been there and either he or my Warden had died or I'd not been able to stop him being king/become his mistress then I'm not sure how the fangirl in me would have reacted.

If I sat down and played my hypothetical version of DA3, I know that once I get immersed into the game and grew attached to Cullen (especially if its to the extent that I grew attached to Alistair) I'd probably throw a real hissy fit if things didn't work out for him and my character.

[Dunquixote]

Jasmine:

Maybe he said that to get a reaction out of us fangirls [and fanboys????]...just to get a laugh out of it. lol

Lola: When I romanced Alistair with a character for the first time and didn't know about the hardening process, man, you should've heard me or seen the look on my face when I got to the dark ritual part.  Man, I wanted to **** slap Morrigan lol, pardon my language.  No one sleeps with my man ever! <.< Hands off!

Modifié par Dunquixote, 12 avril 2012 - 10:30 .

[LolaLei]

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I have this sneaking suspicion that this is the kind of route they'll take with Cullen, he seems like such a tragic figure and I know David Gaider loves tearing our hearts out so I won't be surprised if Cullen's is a doomed romance. Usually I would expect a "get out of jail free" card to be thrown into the mix like they did with the dark ritual to save Alistair and your Warden in DA:O, but Bioware seem to be taking a different route with romances recently so I'll be interested to see what stance DA3 takes in the bittersweet stakes.

I don't mind tragic romances, I'd be a bit gutted if Cullen draws the short straw because I'd like to see the poor guy happy for once, but if they portray the tragedy correctly then I think I could still appreciate it for it's beautiful story telling, even if I would be royally cheesed off lol.

I think I remember someone mentioning that David Gaider said if he wrote the romance he'd make Cullen creepy lol

I read that too, I think it was shortly after DA:O before they'd developed his character in DA2. I dare say he'll still have a slight creepy quality to him, but in a more intense love way, rather than the "I creep into your room at night and lick your face whilst you sleep" kinda way.

[Dunquixote]

LolaLei wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I have this sneaking suspicion that this is the kind of route they'll take with Cullen, he seems like such a tragic figure and I know David Gaider loves tearing our hearts out so I won't be surprised if Cullen's is a doomed romance. Usually I would expect a "get out of jail free" card to be thrown into the mix like they did with the dark ritual to save Alistair and your Warden in DA:O, but Bioware seem to be taking a different route with romances recently so I'll be interested to see what stance DA3 takes in the bittersweet stakes.

I don't mind tragic romances, I'd be a bit gutted if Cullen draws the short straw because I'd like to see the poor guy happy for once, but if they portray the tragedy correctly then I think I could still appreciate it for it's beautiful story telling, even if I would be royally cheesed off lol.

I think I remember someone mentioning that David Gaider said if he wrote the romance he'd make Cullen creepy lol

I read that too, I think it was shortly after DA:O before they'd developed his character in DA2. I dare say he'll still have a slight creepy quality to him, but in a more intense love way, rather than the "I creep into your room at night and lick your face whilst you sleep" kinda way.

As Oghren would say, "Hot!" 

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I have this sneaking suspicion that this is the kind of route they'll take with Cullen, he seems like such a tragic figure and I know David Gaider loves tearing our hearts out so I won't be surprised if Cullen's is a doomed romance. Usually I would expect a "get out of jail free" card to be thrown into the mix like they did with the dark ritual to save Alistair and your Warden in DA:O, but Bioware seem to be taking a different route with romances recently so I'll be interested to see what stance DA3 takes in the bittersweet stakes.

I don't mind tragic romances, I'd be a bit gutted if Cullen draws the short straw because I'd like to see the poor guy happy for once, but if they portray the tragedy correctly then I think I could still appreciate it for it's beautiful story telling, even if I would be royally cheesed off lol.

I think I remember someone mentioning that David Gaider said if he wrote the romance he'd make Cullen creepy lol

I read that too, I think it was shortly after DA:O before they'd developed his character in DA2. I dare say he'll still have a slight creepy quality to him, but in a more intense love way, rather than the "I creep into your room at night and lick your face whilst you sleep" kinda way.

As Oghren would say, "Hot!" 

I wonder if he did ever watch the Amell mage sleeping? 

[LolaLei]

Dunquixote wrote...

Jasmine:

Maybe he said that to get a reaction out of us fangirls [and fanboys????]...just to get a laugh out of it. lol

Lola: When I romanced Alistair with a character for the first time and didn't know about the hardening process, man, you should've heard me or seen the look on my face when I got to the dark ritual part.  Man, I wanted to **** slap Morrigan lol, pardon my language.  No one sleeps with my man ever! <.< Hands off!

LOL! I was like, "Hm, let Morrigan shag him and have us both survive to be together forever? Or have one of us die and seperate us forever? ... This sucks... **** it! Go on then Morrigan, be gentle with him!"

What does Alistair say if he's hardened when you ask him to sleep with Morrigan? Is he all like "hell yeah! Don't wait up!" or does he still protest?

[Dunquixote]

Jasmine96 wrote...

Dunquixote wrote...

^I don't know the details, but I'm sorry if I spoiled it ><

Does
anyone have an estimation of how tall Cullen is?  I might not end up
using it, but just now, while I'm typing copying my notes onto Microsoft
word, seeing how I'm using italics rather than using quotation marks
when someone is thinking, not to mention that I'm bad at varying the
structure from "he was thinking," "he thought," etc; I'm trying to
insert something in front of what was going to open up my story.  I
could always go "A tall handsome templar," but that sounds too bland...
<.<

With locks of golden hair glistening in the sunset and abs of.. where was I?

Oh, I like that. May I use?


He still protests.

Modifié par Dunquixote, 12 avril 2012 - 10:37 .

[LolaLei]

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I have this sneaking suspicion that this is the kind of route they'll take with Cullen, he seems like such a tragic figure and I know David Gaider loves tearing our hearts out so I won't be surprised if Cullen's is a doomed romance. Usually I would expect a "get out of jail free" card to be thrown into the mix like they did with the dark ritual to save Alistair and your Warden in DA:O, but Bioware seem to be taking a different route with romances recently so I'll be interested to see what stance DA3 takes in the bittersweet stakes.

I don't mind tragic romances, I'd be a bit gutted if Cullen draws the short straw because I'd like to see the poor guy happy for once, but if they portray the tragedy correctly then I think I could still appreciate it for it's beautiful story telling, even if I would be royally cheesed off lol.

I think I remember someone mentioning that David Gaider said if he wrote the romance he'd make Cullen creepy lol

I read that too, I think it was shortly after DA:O before they'd developed his character in DA2. I dare say he'll still have a slight creepy quality to him, but in a more intense love way, rather than the "I creep into your room at night and lick your face whilst you sleep" kinda way.

Only when he's out of pancakes 

Cullen luuuurves the pancakes!

[Dunquixote]

Thanks . Really? You've wrote that many or it was that hard?

[meanieweenie]

Dunquixote wrote...

Jasmine:

Maybe he said that to get a reaction out of us fangirls [and fanboys????]...just to get a laugh out of it. lol

Lola: When I romanced Alistair with a character for the first time and didn't know about the hardening process, man, you should've heard me or seen the look on my face when I got to the dark ritual part.  Man, I wanted to **** slap Morrigan lol, pardon my language.  No one sleeps with my man ever! <.< Hands off!

Top secretly... my first DA:O playthrough I was an elven mage. When Alistair dumped me I yelled "F### YOU A-HOLE" and deleted that character. LOL

As a side note, Cullen must be at least 6'1". I'm a tall girl and need the leverage.