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[R2s Muse]

@Xil, I think also that although what happened in Redcliffe is a good example- thanks for that!-I don't get the impression from the codices, books, or DG that the weak abomination we typically see is really the status quo. From all the words, it sounds like the danger is much, much greater than we've typically been shown in-game.

[Xilizhra]

I'll need to see this happening more commonly in-game before I believe that.

[LolaLei]

But I thought you said you didn't believe in killing? Popping off Templars stool counts as killing, even if a lot of them deserve it lol.

[LolaLei]

I was of the impression that the majority of the easy to kill abominations we faced regularly was just the DA teams way of filling up more space with battles. I don't personally feel that those fights should be taken as gospel that abominations/demons are no more dangerous than any other regular bad guy we face.

[Xilizhra]

LolaLei wrote...

But I thought you said you didn't believe in killing? Popping off Templars stool counts as killing, even if a lot of them deserve it lol.

I said I don't believe that people deserve to die. A lot of people need to die owing to unfortunate necessity.

[VampOrchid]

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

But I thought you said you didn't believe in killing? Popping off Templars stool counts as killing, even if a lot of them deserve it lol.

I said I don't believe that people deserve to die. A lot of people need to die owing to unfortunate necessity.

Oh come now, some most certainly deserve it. Are you talking in game characters, or people in general. Because I can name some very good examples of people that deserve it

Edit : spelling lol

Modifié par VampOrchid, 31 août 2012 - 03:17 .

[Crimson Moon]

I wish the game would present more moral ambiguity choices like with the desire demon and the templar in DAO. Do you want him to live in blissful ignorance or kill him? There are more choices in the first game in comparison to the second game.

[LolaLei]

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

But I thought you said you didn't believe in killing? Popping off Templars stool counts as killing, even if a lot of them deserve it lol.

I said I don't believe that people deserve to die. A lot of people need to die owing to unfortunate necessity.

So hypothetically, if Cullen is a companion/LI in DA3 would you ever romance him just to see what that aspect of his personality is like? Is it possible that you could end up tolerating him as a companion and maybe even come to like him? Or do you consider his past actions within the Templar Order unforgivable?

[LolaLei]

Crimson Moon wrote...

I wish the game would present more moral ambiguity choices like with the desire demon and the templar in DAO. Do you want him to live in blissful ignorance or kill him? There are more choices in the first game in comparison to the second game.

I'd personally like less fetch quests and more memoriable "encounters" and situation like the example you've described above. Y'know, things that have a cconsequence within the game.

[Jinx]

Me to...

[Xilizhra]

LolaLei wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

But I thought you said you didn't believe in killing? Popping off Templars stool counts as killing, even if a lot of them deserve it lol.

I said I don't believe that people deserve to die. A lot of people need to die owing to unfortunate necessity.

So hypothetically, if Cullen is a companion/LI in DA3 would you ever romance him just to see what that aspect of his personality is like? Is it possible that you could end up tolerating him as a companion and maybe even come to like him? Or do you consider his past actions within the Templar Order unforgivable?

I don't romance men. His being a templar or not is moot.

I have been tempted to romance Meredith before, because I'm insane. And I don't really consider anything to be unforgiveable, per se; he can certainly earn redemption.

[LolaLei]

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

But I thought you said you didn't believe in killing? Popping off Templars stool counts as killing, even if a lot of them deserve it lol.

I said I don't believe that people deserve to die. A lot of people need to die owing to unfortunate necessity.

So hypothetically, if Cullen is a companion/LI in DA3 would you ever romance him just to see what that aspect of his personality is like? Is it possible that you could end up tolerating him as a companion and maybe even come to like him? Or do you consider his past actions within the Templar Order unforgivable?

I don't romance men. His being a templar or not is moot.

I have been tempted to romance Meredith before, because I'm insane. And I don't really consider anything to be unforgiveable, per se; he can certainly earn redemption.

You don't even romance them, just to test out what each romance is like? I like to try out each romance with both genders and then pick the one I like best for my canon import game.

Anyway in that case, do you suppose you/your protagonist could come to like him as a friend? Or will it always be a case of him earning redemption but never truly being trusted, kinda thing?

Modifié par LolaLei, 31 août 2012 - 04:33 .

[LolaLei]

[Xilizhra]

LolaLei wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

But I thought you said you didn't believe in killing? Popping off Templars stool counts as killing, even if a lot of them deserve it lol.

I said I don't believe that people deserve to die. A lot of people need to die owing to unfortunate necessity.

So hypothetically, if Cullen is a companion/LI in DA3 would you ever romance him just to see what that aspect of his personality is like? Is it possible that you could end up tolerating him as a companion and maybe even come to like him? Or do you consider his past actions within the Templar Order unforgivable?

I don't romance men. His being a templar or not is moot.

I have been tempted to romance Meredith before, because I'm insane. And I don't really consider anything to be unforgiveable, per se; he can certainly earn redemption.

You don't even romance them, just to test out what each romance is like? I like to try out each romance with both genders and then pick the one I like best for my canon import game.

Anyway in that case, do you suppose you/your protagonist could come to like him as a friend? Or will it always be a case of him earning redemption but never truly be trusted, kinda thing?

I don't, really. I romanced Zevran once, but only on an elven supremacist playthrough, and once tried a gay maleHawke playthrough, but that never went anywhere.

And whether or not I'd like him as a friend is up to him and what he does, and approves/disapproves of.

[VampOrchid]

Anyone want a preview, sneak peaky on my next chapter...There's a little argument, where my mage basically tests his integrity...it's kind of sad though lol

Edit: Scratch that Idea, I dont think I can actually post it here lol

Modifié par VampOrchid, 31 août 2012 - 04:42 .

[Xilizhra]

Avejajed wrote...

I think I missed what Cullen ever did wrong to need redeeming?

Aided the Annulment. Among whatever other sins are commonplace for templars.

[VampOrchid]

Xilizhra wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I think I missed what Cullen ever did wrong to need redeeming?

Aided the Annulment. Among whatever other sins are commonplace for templars.

It's like being a soldier in today's army. Present says jump, you jump. His actions were no different. Plus depending on what side  you chose, he stands up for the mages, dissaproving of what is going on.

He was only following orders of his Commanding officier, then promptly decides she's gone to far. He releaves her of her Command.

[VampOrchid]

Xilizhra wrote...
Among whatever other sins are commonplace for templars.

That's like saying everyone on the earth has the same sins...which they don't. Same goes for Templars. Some rape, some kill, some betray. Others don't.

Just like lady gaga is female....you don't see every other chick jogging down the street looking like a bad 80's video.

[Xilizhra]

Avejajed wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I think I missed what Cullen ever did wrong to need redeeming?

Aided the Annulment. Among whatever other sins are commonplace for templars.

You mean for doing what he was told? His other choices were what? Death? Imprisonment? Lyrium withdrawl? Being killed by abominations? It's hard to fault a guy for doing what he thinks is right- he's not like other templars. So I take it you're not a Cullen fan?

There've been certain events in our own history that officially deemed "following orders" to be an insufficient excuse for carrying out genocide. Quite frankly, he seems to be of the ilk of most templars, which is a step above the outright sadists, but a few steps below people like Keran and Thrask.

[VampOrchid]

So if you're going to look at it that way. Then you have to look at it that way for mages too...which by the way I'm pro mage...but still....

So take the over used example...Anders blowing up the Chantry...Uhmm yeah...so does that mean all other mages are bad? Oooh don't forge Uldred...so all other mages are gonna do the same? Remember, the blood mages following him were only doing what they were told too...so yeah...