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[meanieweenie]

R2s Muse wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I wonder if he used to irritate Cullen? I could imagine him being stuck sharing a room with him lol. Someone should turn that into a funny little fanfic!

That can be Cullen's first kiss.... unwanted as it may be. LOL

PS - I'm having a sucky time writing this thing.

Ah, hang in there!!  Anything we can help with...?

You wanna read it and tell me where I'm going wrong? lol

[meanieweenie]

Day 57 - My skivies are missing.... again. I bet I'll find them in his trunk... again. He's going to tell me he was doing both our wash together.... again. I wish he'd stop. Just stop.

[LolaLei]

meanieweenie wrote...

Day 57 - My skivies are missing.... again. I bet I'll find them in his trunk... again. He's going to tell me he was doing both our wash together.... again. I wish he'd stop. Just stop.

Day 60 - I caught Carroll "borrowing" my wash cloth again... Maker, I don't want to think about where he's been using it. Must remember to request a new one from Greagoir. Not to self: Buy new pants.

Modifié par LolaLei, 01 septembre 2012 - 01:45 .

[VampOrchid]

Ok ladies. I am in Ontario, Canada. Current time 945 pm. You want to know what i see outside, a full blue moon. That's right. Get a look at it while you can!

[R2s Muse]

meanieweenie wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I wonder if he used to irritate Cullen? I could imagine him being stuck sharing a room with him lol. Someone should turn that into a funny little fanfic!

That can be Cullen's first kiss.... unwanted as it may be. LOL

PS - I'm having a sucky time writing this thing.

Ah, hang in there!!  Anything we can help with...?

You wanna read it and tell me where I'm going wrong? lol

I doubt you're going wrong!! But if it would be at all helpful to have an outside perspective, send it to me.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 01 septembre 2012 - 01:46 .

[LolaLei]

VampOrchid wrote...

Ok ladies. I am in Ontario, Canada. Current time 945 pm. You want to know what i see outside, a full blue moon. That's right. Get a look at it while you can!

Ooooo take a picture, I wanna see!

[VampOrchid]

LolaLei wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

Ok ladies. I am in Ontario, Canada. Current time 945 pm. You want to know what i see outside, a full blue moon. That's right. Get a look at it while you can!

Ooooo take a picture, I wanna see!

Well it's not actually blue. It's a term. It just means a second full moon in one month. Very rare.

You can see an actual 'blue moon' when there are many partials in the atmosphere in space. Which gives it a blueish tinge. Extremely rare.

This one however, not actually blue.

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Day 57 - My skivies are missing.... again. I bet I'll find them in his trunk... again. He's going to tell me he was doing both our wash together.... again. I wish he'd stop. Just stop.

Day 60 - I caught Carroll "borrowing" my wash cloth again... Maker, I don't want to think about where he's been using it. Must remember to request a new one from Greagoir. Not to self: Buy new pants.

haha, Genius!
Day 61 - Found a sprig of lavender in my smallclothes drawer. Carroll blushed and said they freshen your linens. "You know, for when you finally get your hands on that pretty mage. After I'm done with her, that is." Prat.

[Xilizhra]

brushyourteeth wrote...

I'm interested until I see somebody coming up with a scenario that proves the Chantry is completely full of ruthless wackjobs just because "I like that idea" so that it's easier to hate them.

The Chant isn't the problem - people are. Magic isn't the problem - people are. There is light and dark to both sides. The point that David Gaider keeps trying to reinforce to us is that whichever group is in power will be the group guilty of the greatest atrocities. Actually, it shows how messed up people are that they're given a strong moral code like the Chant and can fail at upholding it so miserably while convincing themselves (and others, apparently) that they're fulfilling it so completely. The mages, meanwhile, don't even have a code of conduct, and are likely to show us even more of the same laissez-faire attitude we saw in Kirkwall. Not because magic is bad, but because we'll repeatedly see it's certain individuals who are bad.

But wanting one side to be more evil so that you can hate them more.... yeah, I don't get that. To me, it invalidates all one's assertions that they already are (which I wasn't inclined to believe to begin with, but still)

The Chantry doesn't have to be full of ruthless whackjobs. The world would be a very different and much nicer place if you had to be monstrous to commit atrocities; you don't. All you have to do is possess a drive for conformity, which almost everyone does, and have an evil master who can convince you that your enemies aren't people. I don't believe that every templar would, given a chance to think independently about things, choose to believe that all mages should die, but the master they serve has apparently chosen this, and they don't want to think enough to go against him. Conformists do far, far more damage than sadists.

[meanieweenie]

VampOrchid wrote...

Ok ladies. I am in Ontario, Canada. Current time 945 pm. You want to know what i see outside, a full blue moon. That's right. Get a look at it while you can!

I have it beaming in my windows right now! Super cool. I'm an hour behind you.

R2 - I sent it to you.

[R2s Muse]

Just to make sure... you guys know that a blue moon is not actually blue... right? That just means it's the second full moon in the same month. Seems the last one was on Aug 1.

d'oh, ninja'd by vamporchid..

Modifié par R2s Muse, 01 septembre 2012 - 01:53 .

[SamaraDraven]

Sorry, I know this is off topic but I was catching up on how proving or disproving whether or not someone has magic can be accomplished and also the debate about whether templars are right to oversee mages in any capacity and I had a thought for each subject.

First: I think that mages can be detected without coercing them to do magic. A templar's abilities should, theoretically affect only those with magical talent. So subjecting a normal person to a Smite or Drain or something would do nothing and subjecting a mage would cause noticeable fatigue.

Next thought: While I disagree with the order's tactics, I do think some oversight is necessary. The Tevinter magisters are an example of how people can use magic for evil. Killing slaves - hell even having slaves just so one has blood on hand - is wrong and evil. Look at Jowan: he dabbled in blood magic because he as never a very good mage. He wanted to be better. That drove him to forbidden arts. His... hobby was noticed and the decision to make him Tranquil for it was made. Now I'm not saying I agree with such an extreme decision but it was the law at the time. And Jowan knew it. His blood magic came in handy when he needed to save his own skin but he still should have know better. Blood magic is supposedly a path to becoming an abomination.

Which leads me to another thought. Abominations may seem ridiculously easy for our PCs to handle but think of it: our PCs usually have a number of people with them and a unique way of fighting and are very skilled versus the average people of a village. It probably takes a village's destruction to get the notice of far away templars to come and take care of the problem. Abominations can still be catastrophic to the peasantry and that loss of life is what the Templars are trying to prevent from happening in the first place. So I don't see the Order as inherently evil, just the knights who abuse the authority they do have. And it definitely needs to be run much differently than it is.

[VampOrchid]

Hey I have a thought...well kind of...

Most of you know that I have two on going fanfics....anyways, I'm always writing chapters ahead and then rereading or rewriting them later on...

Here's my thought/question. Eventually, Cullen, with this group, will come across Witherfang....what do you think his reaction too all that would be?

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Day 57 - My skivies are missing.... again. I bet I'll find them in his trunk... again. He's going to tell me he was doing both our wash together.... again. I wish he'd stop. Just stop.

Day 60 - I caught Carroll "borrowing" my wash cloth again... Maker, I don't want to think about where he's been using it. Must remember to request a new one from Greagoir. Not to self: Buy new pants.

haha, Genius!
Day 61 - Found a sprig of lavender in my smallclothes drawer. Carroll blushed and said they freshen your linens. "You know, for when you finally get your hands on that pretty mage. After I'm done with her, that is." Prat.

Day 62 - Saw Carroll flirting with Amell today. Must. Punch. Something.

[brushyourteeth]

Xilizhra wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

I'm interested until I see somebody coming up with a scenario that proves the Chantry is completely full of ruthless wackjobs just because "I like that idea" so that it's easier to hate them.

The Chant isn't the problem - people are. Magic isn't the problem - people are. There is light and dark to both sides. The point that David Gaider keeps trying to reinforce to us is that whichever group is in power will be the group guilty of the greatest atrocities. Actually, it shows how messed up people are that they're given a strong moral code like the Chant and can fail at upholding it so miserably while convincing themselves (and others, apparently) that they're fulfilling it so completely. The mages, meanwhile, don't even have a code of conduct, and are likely to show us even more of the same laissez-faire attitude we saw in Kirkwall. Not because magic is bad, but because we'll repeatedly see it's certain individuals who are bad.

But wanting one side to be more evil so that you can hate them more.... yeah, I don't get that. To me, it invalidates all one's assertions that they already are (which I wasn't inclined to believe to begin with, but still)

The Chantry doesn't have to be full of ruthless whackjobs. The world would be a very different and much nicer place if you had to be monstrous to commit atrocities; you don't. All you have to do is possess a drive for conformity, which almost everyone does, and have an evil master who can convince you that your enemies aren't people. I don't believe that every templar would, given a chance to think independently about things, choose to believe that all mages should die, but the master they serve has apparently chosen this, and they don't want to think enough to go against him. Conformists do far, far more damage than sadists.

Very, very well put. Which is why I really hope Justinia gets some more solid chances to reverse the damage that's been done by the previous Divines. A girl can dream, right?

[LolaLei]

OMG! You know what? We could turn that idea into a Tumblr "Extracts from Cullen Journal"

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

OMG! You know what? We could turn that idea into a Tumblr "Extracts from Cullen Journal"

That would be awesome!

[meanieweenie]

VampOrchid wrote...

Hey I have a thought...well kind of...

Most of you know that I have two on going fanfics....anyways, I'm always writing chapters ahead and then rereading or rewriting them later on...

Here's my thought/question. Eventually, Cullen, with this group, will come across Witherfang....what do you think his reaction too all that would be?

I think he'd be very, very leery and distrustful. He would find it unnatural and more beast than human. That's my 2 cents.

[brushyourteeth]

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

OMG! You know what? We could turn that idea into a Tumblr "Extracts from Cullen Journal"

That would be awesome!

We'd have to establish a timeline though, or it'd be all over the place!

[brushyourteeth]

meanieweenie wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

Hey I have a thought...well kind of...

Most of you know that I have two on going fanfics....anyways, I'm always writing chapters ahead and then rereading or rewriting them later on...

Here's my thought/question. Eventually, Cullen, with this group, will come across Witherfang....what do you think his reaction too all that would be?

I think he'd be very, very leery and distrustful. He would find it unnatural and more beast than human. That's my 2 cents.

Agree. I think he'd be totally freaked out. He'd want to discover whether it was a spirit or a very clever demon, knowing all the while that the longer he communicated with it the more danger he was putting himself in. I have a hard time imagining he'd just let it walk free - it'd have to overpower or elude him in some way or one of his companions would have to be very persuasive to convince him to let it be.

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

OMG! You know what? We could turn that idea into a Tumblr "Extracts from Cullen Journal"

That would be awesome!

We'd have to establish a timeline though, or it'd be all over the place!

Yeah, we'd have to come up with a bunch of entries and make sure we released a few of them at a time lol.

[meanieweenie]

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

OMG! You know what? We could turn that idea into a Tumblr "Extracts from Cullen Journal"

That would be awesome!

We'd have to establish a timeline though, or it'd be all over the place!

Yeah, we'd have to come up with a bunch of entries and make sure we released a few of them at a time lol.

Do a week at a time.... a Cullen week.... not a real week. Then we can sift through the best ideas we collect and voila! (It's pronounced voy'-la).

[Xilizhra]

Very, very well put. Which is why I really hope Justinia gets some more solid chances to reverse the damage that's been done by the previous Divines. A girl can dream, right?

I think you might not like my current vision for DA3, as Justinia is effectively under house arrest, with the templars having performed a mostly bloodless coup upon the Chantry. She may get killed later...

[LolaLei]

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

OMG! You know what? We could turn that idea into a Tumblr "Extracts from Cullen Journal"

That would be awesome!

We'd have to establish a timeline though, or it'd be all over the place!

Yeah, we'd have to come up with a bunch of entries and make sure we released a few of them at a time lol.

Do a week at a time.... a Cullen week.... not a real week. Then we can sift through the best ideas we collect and voila! (It's pronounced voy'-la).

Good idea. We could literally start it off from the moment he joined the Ferelden Circle, take it through his torture and rehabilition, then onto Kirkwall and eventually onto DA3.

[LolaLei]

Xilizhra wrote...

Very, very well put. Which is why I really hope Justinia gets some more solid chances to reverse the damage that's been done by the previous Divines. A girl can dream, right?

I think you might not like my current vision for DA3, as Justinia is effectively under house arrest, with the templars having performed a mostly bloodless coup upon the Chantry. She may get killed later...

My theory is that she will get killed at some point in DA3. I'd kinda like the protagonist or Cullen to get the blame for it to begin with, until they can clear their name lol.