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[Bekkael]

Avilia, your avatar frightens me. Is there something special you're celebrating??

Gala, loved the comic update.

Illusionary Ennui, some of my fills are refusing to be written, and I'm seriously just considering giving up (especially the calendar fill).

Lyrium is a terribly important commodity in the DA world. I think if it were suddenly in short supply, all hell (Void?) would break loose. I can see an exalted march into the deep roads to secure the supply.

ToP by Aimo:


And Mistiqarts:

Modifié par Bekkael, 29 août 2011 - 05:01 .

[jamesp81]

Galagraphia wrote...

I think I wrote somewhere, before I finished DA2 for the first time, that my biggest fear was to fight Cullen. I would just let him kill Hawke. The end I prefer Cullen to Hawke I love men with mental disorders and dead women in the closet.

I'm glad BioWare spared my Hawke.

Now seriously: battle against Cullen was impossible, because Cullen always supports Hawke's point of view. I don't know why. Maybe as his disappointment in Meredith grows, he's looking for another person with enough power to oppose her and bring templars back to their initial course. I hope the movie about seekers will answer some questions. Or new DLC.

I am never going to understand women

[Sialater]

jamesp81 wrote...

Galagraphia wrote...

I think I wrote somewhere, before I finished DA2 for the first time, that my biggest fear was to fight Cullen. I would just let him kill Hawke. The end I prefer Cullen to Hawke I love men with mental disorders and dead women in the closet.

I'm glad BioWare spared my Hawke.

Now seriously: battle against Cullen was impossible, because Cullen always supports Hawke's point of view. I don't know why. Maybe as his disappointment in Meredith grows, he's looking for another person with enough power to oppose her and bring templars back to their initial course. I hope the movie about seekers will answer some questions. Or new DLC.

I am never going to understand women

I believe the key words that were left out are, "in fiction."

Modifié par Sialater, 29 août 2011 - 08:03 .

[Galagraphia]

jamesp81 wrote...
I am never going to understand women

I'm a former doctor, but I still love disorders. They are interesting 

Hey, look, a naked sim!Cullen.

[Avilia]

 @Bekkael - Adria is how I feel at times when browsing the internet and its various chat fora 

Lyrium does seem to have an increasing presence in the world.  In DA:O it was just the stuff mages/templars used for fuel.  In DA2 we seem to run into it all over the place.

Another edit - and another one of my dim questions.  This one is regarding Carver's templar armour.  When you first meet him he's wearing the same armour style as Cullen.  Shouldn't he be wearing the spaulder-less armour that the recruits wear?  It annoys me no end that he's not.  Yes, I'm pedantic, sue me.

This post is lacking Cullen:

Modifié par Avilia, 29 août 2011 - 08:57 .

[R2s Muse]

Howdy folks, checking in from the wilds of NY with no power now for two days. *sigh* But had to get my Cullen chat fix!!  Thanks for all the good wishes.

Too much to say, but,

@Avilia - love the wallpapers!! one will now grace the computer my husband doesn't use.... er, when I can actually turn it back on...

Also, I think the question of "Where the hell was Cullen?" post-Act 3 is the one that drives me the most crazy these days. I have all sorts of theories now, but indeed, how could a freakin' Seeker not have heard the actual story from the templar Knight-Captain who was, you know, there! Suggests to me that he's no longer in the normal templar chain of command any more since many of Cassandra's totally out-there theories would already have been quashed. I was trying to catalog Cassandra's pre-interrogation theories about Kirkwall, with spotty success, but she sure is surprised that "Meredith was behind it all." She thinks that somehow both the Qunari and the templar-mage thing were part of some nefarious plan of Hawke's. She also thinks that all the companions came from Ferelden together. (any one care to share any others? i need to find a good vid of all cassandra's scenes...)

Of course, answering this question is driving my current fic... so I've thought about it WAY too much. But, it all suggests to me that he's not just toodling along, leading the templars in Kirkwall come Year 10.  Unless..... he just lied alot when he was first asked about it... Heh heh heh [mine is an evil laugh...]

@Monica - I love your ideas about the gov't break down and the lyrium trade. I could totally see that being important.

Well, ladies and gents, signing off again as I head back to my house of darkness.Disconcerting having no technology functioning. Thank God for my kindle.

[Avilia]

R2s Muse wrote...

Howdy folks, checking in from the wilds of NY with no power now for two days. *sigh* But had to get my Cullen chat fix!!  Thanks for all the good wishes.

Good to know you're okay.  I feel for your lack of power - we had similar here in Queensland during some flooding last year.  It really drives home how much we rely on and enjoy our electronics.

@Avilia - love the wallpapers!! one will now grace the computer my husband doesn't use.... er, when I can actually turn it back on...

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Also, I think the question of "Where the hell was Cullen?" post-Act 3 is the one that drives me the most crazy these days. I have all sorts of theories now, but indeed, how could a freakin' Seeker not have heard the actual story from the templar Knight-Captain who was, you know, there! Suggests to me that he's no longer in the normal templar chain of command any more since many of Cassandra's totally out-there theories would already have been quashed. I was trying to catalog Cassandra's pre-interrogation theories about Kirkwall, with spotty success, but she sure is surprised that "Meredith was behind it all." She thinks that somehow both the Qunari and the templar-mage thing were part of some nefarious plan of Hawke's. She also thinks that all the companions came from Ferelden together. (any one care to share any others? i need to find a good vid of all cassandra's scenes...)

Of course, answering this question is driving my current fic... so I've thought about it WAY too much. But, it all suggests to me that he's not just toodling along, leading the templars in Kirkwall come Year 10.  Unless..... he just lied alot when he was first asked about it... Heh heh heh [mine is an evil laugh...]

There could be two answers for that I suppose, saving and releasing a pro mage Hawke might potentially get Cullen into a lot of trouble with the Chantry.  Would he lie about it?  I don't think so tbh, not to save his own hide from punishment.  In our earlier discussion we thought Cullen may have given his statement and gone off to be soldiery.

I agree that's the big question for me about post Act 3 doings and Cassandra's ideas on what happened.  The world can't have dropped immediately into turmoil - it would take a while for word to get around about what happened in the Gallows.   

Cassandra also seems to think Hawke knew about the idol, which implies she knew about it as well.  She thinks Flemeth sent someone with Hawke. I don't think she knows about the amulet, I more get the impression she means an actual person.  If she does know about the amulet - how does she know?  That's from memory - I'll see if I can put some vids of Cassandra's chat's with Varric together (assuming there are none on You tube already).

Did the Chantry send someone immediately to find out what happened?  Was the Divine's army really on its way or almost there when this all went to doo doo? 

I'm sure there's lots more questions I haven't even thought of.  I really really hope they get answered in some way at some stage.

That's a bit rambly isn't it?  Hopefully it makes sense and I'm not contradicting myself too much (curse not being able to see the thread while you type replies /grumble)

Modifié par Avilia, 30 août 2011 - 01:47 .

[Illusionary Ennui]

Bekkael wrote...

Illusionary Ennui, some of my fills are refusing to be written, and I'm seriously just considering giving up (especially the calendar fill).

*hugs* Just take a break... put them aside and work on something else or just relax and gather your thoughts... it sometimes helps.

MTA is giving me a headache, but I think that now I've got all my fics edited as best as I can for grammar and improved content, I can finally move foreward... but only when I'm ready. Forcing oneself with only lead to more stress.

Meanwhile... *offers hugs to R2 and works on her own theories about it all while she grumbles about the BSN not updating her profiles and not sending her emails about her subscribed topics.*

Modifié par Illusionary Ennui, 30 août 2011 - 02:30 .

[silentstephi]

Oh hey, Sia's here. ^.^

Ok, so this is going to sound like a really silly question but I can't figure it out from the screenshots, his eyes are always in the dark...
Cullen's eye color is hazel. But which flavor? They look brown and grey to me. Not quite the amber that Anders has, but definitely not blue or green.

Another question: Templars and their lyrium. How often do they have to take it? Do they start building up an immunity to it and have to take more of it later down the line, or at shorter intervals? The wiki gives a decent summation on that the lyrium can do, and when templars are allowed to take it and what not... but time frames are kind of glossed over. I'm pretty sure there's probably no mention of it in cannon, just one of those details no one thinks of... until you have time on your hands TO think of it.

TIA!

[Bekkael]

silentstephi wrote...

Oh hey, Sia's here. ^.^

Ok, so this is going to sound like a really silly question but I can't figure it out from the screenshots, his eyes are always in the dark...
Cullen's eye color is hazel. But which flavor? They look brown and grey to me. Not quite the amber that Anders has, but definitely not blue or green.
TIA!

I spent waaayyyyyy too much time looking at screenies of DA2 Cullen's eyes for writing purposes. I always describe him as having green eyes, and I often mention the gold flecks in certain lighting. Other people may see it differently, but that's what I got. I'll post the photo I used for reference.

Edited to add: I enlarged the pic on my computer so I could look at his eye pixels close up. Me, obsessed? Of course not!

Modifié par Bekkael, 30 août 2011 - 04:26 .

[Galagraphia]

His eyes were brown in Origins, and I keep drawing him with brown eyes, even though they do seem green sometimes in DA2. But I noticed that in this game eye colors are very shiny: blue eyes almost glow, green eyes burn holes in your retina. If you compare his eyes to Merrill's, it's obvious that they are not green in what this game thinks is green. So I stick with hazel. Like cold light-brown. Cold brown does look a bit greenish.

[Bekkael]

Nearly all my kids have hazel eyes, and I always think of them as an olive green-gold. Same as I see Cullen. *shrug* I knew each of us would have our own interpretation on eye color LOL.

[Galagraphia]

@Bekkael, lol. I just pick the same color I use for his hair when I draw him, because it looks like that in both Origins and DA2
Hm, funny how Origins!Cullen looks older, but somehow cuter than DAII!Cullen. Also, in the description of DAO cosmetic mod I added to the top it's said that toolset sets his age as 24 in Origins. Makes sense. He should be older than Alistair, because Ali hasn't taken his vows. And if Alistair is Fiona's son, then he's 20 or so.

@silentstephi, about lyrium. There's no canon info about how often they take it. I made up a theory that it depends on how often they need to dispell, smite and resist the magic Magic sort of burns the lyrium in your blood, and you need another dose. But it's just my theory, I don't know anything about lyrium metabolism.

[Monica21]

Nice to see you poke your head in R2! I feel for you and the lack of power. I know what it's like to be without for a significant amount of time. I just hope nothing was in the blender when it went out!

Avilia wrote...
Also, I think the question of "Where the hell was Cullen?" post-Act 3 is the one that drives me the most crazy these days. I have all sorts of theories now, but indeed, how could a freakin' Seeker not have heard the actual story from the templar Knight-Captain who was, you know, there! Suggests to me that he's no longer in the normal templar chain of command any more since many of Cassandra's totally out-there theories would already have been quashed. I was trying to catalog Cassandra's pre-interrogation theories about Kirkwall, with spotty success, but she sure is surprised that "Meredith was behind it all." She thinks that somehow both the Qunari and the templar-mage thing were part of some nefarious plan of Hawke's. She also thinks that all the companions came from Ferelden together. (any one care to share any others? i need to find a good vid of all cassandra's scenes...)

I'm starting to wonder what Cassandra knew and when she knew it. Leliana's presence in Act 3 suggests that the Chantry has some knowledge of what's going on, so I don't think it took three years for Chantry involvement. Nothing as major as the army we see in the Gallows at the end, but I have the impression that Cassandra and Leliana were sent from Orlais, although it shouldn't take them three years to get to Kirkwall. Unless they're putting down rebellions along the way? 

And then back to Cassandra. I figure it took three years to find someone in Hawke's inner circle and it just happened to be Varric. Why Hawke is so important at the time of his questioning is something we don't know yet, just that she's someone mages/templars can trust. (Depending on who you side with.) As for assumptions, Cassandra assumes that Hawke and Anders left Ferelden together specifically for the purposes of finding the idol. She assumes they know what they're looking for. There's also an assumption she makes about Hawke's involvement with the Qunari that I can't think of right now, perhaps a deliberate ploy for power? I'm not sure.

I know that was a bit rambly, but I'm super tired and that's all I can come up with. Feel free to correct or add things, because I'm honestly curious.

[Galagraphia]

Hm, I wonder what Cullen could tell Cassandra.

"Knight-commander was always under the pressure: mages, qunari, everything. And that blood mage plot to fill our ranks with their puppets. I thought she was just extra-cautious. Well, maybe even over-cautious sometimes. Alright, she was getting paranoid, but she didn't do anything suspicious. Yes, I disagreed about the Annulment, I thought we had better options. And I was against killing the Champion. Always. We were going to arrest her, yes, and ask some questions about that mage, Anders. But then Meredith started pointing at us with that sword, and it started to glow, and then she started to glow, and everything in the Gallows started to glow. And move. They mentioned an idol, but I don't know what was that supposed to mean. I think Hawke and Varric knew something about this strange sword. All I know is that thing was evil. And then it exploded. And... poor knight-commander, I still hear her screams... What, why we let the Champion go? Well, you see, I said that we didn't want to kill her. And she didn't want to surrender. And to let her go was the only option. So we did it."

I'm kidding, but Cullen didn't know the whole story. He only knew that Meredith grew paranoid and decided to kill the Champion. And who would believe a lyrium-addicted man about moving statues? I wouldn't.

[Avilia]

 The eye question - toolset says "amber" for Origins.  Not that Origins colour matters for DA2 - after all Nate changed eye colours between games 

I've got Cullen as a preset in my char creator for DA2 - here's a head shot from that:


Unfortunately as we lack a toolset for DA2 (*glares towards Edmonton*) I can't actually see what the name of the colour is.  Looks greeny, yellowy, brown to me.

I've noticed lighting makes a huge difference in how the colour looks and also which monitor I view it on.  Eh, I'm so helpful aren't I? 

I womanfully resisted the urge to pop Cullen's head on my pc.

Modifié par Avilia, 30 août 2011 - 10:38 .

[Galagraphia]

@Avilia, hm, they look amber on my not-calibrated laptop screen. Odd, because it makes colors look colder.
I should check this picture at home on my calibrated monitor.
Now I MUST look away and go back to my work... Aww, those cheekbones...

[Avilia]

 The Cassandra dialogues:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

Its only Cassandra and Varric - I've chopped the other narration out.

I've only finished up to starting Kirkwall.  If they're useful as a reference I'm happy to work on this playthrough.  Its my first male pc so that'll be fun (I suppose ).

[R2s Muse]

Avilia wrote...

 The eye question - toolset says "amber" for Origins.  Not that Origins colour matters for DA2 - after all Nate changed eye colours between games 

I've got Cullen as a preset in my char creator for DA2 - here's a head shot from that:

Tee  hee, the way you wrote this made it sound like "Tah dah, you've won the jackpot! You've got Cullen!"   (Or is that me just projecting... )
Love that pic. Even for an emotionless pic, he's got angst. *sigh* I like amber. I think I'm going to go with that, since they always seems goldeny to me. Okay ... "global replace" hazel -> amber.

Also, 24 in DA:O, one year to come to Kirkwall? So, what, he's 32 then in Act3? [24 + 1 + 7]

I would love it if someone would put together a "What Cassandra Knows" compendium... I should ask on that thread. Can't believe that someone hasn't already done it.

re: what Cullen actually knows, true, he doesn't know the whole lyrium idol story, but he does know better than anyone that Meredith did some unorthodox things that day and basically escalated everything. I don't think he'd be the sort to lie, unless perhaps he thought he was protecting Meredith's memory somehow and stopping her from being written off as a manipulated crazy person [this is my current fave theory]. But, I also have a plot bunny floating in my head about him getting thrown out for insubordination following Act 3. Then, when Cass gets the whole story from Varric she tracks him down for more questions.

Trying to work from Panera  today... Gee, already getting a lot done!

EDIT: Avilia, I love you!! Will have to check out later!

Modifié par R2s Muse, 30 août 2011 - 12:20 .

[Avilia]

@R2 hehe - he's certainly got the 'I'm seriously, serious' look down pat. Ahh working remotely - how much can you find to distract you before actually working. I know that feeling ;-) Panera? I just googled that, is that one of those bakery chains (cafe quick casual according to wikipedia). I'm hungry now btw...

[R2s Muse]

Avilia wrote...

@R2 hehe - he's certainly got the 'I'm seriously, serious' look down pat. Ahh working remotely - how much can you find to distract you before actually working. I know that feeling ;-) Panera? I just googled that, is that one of those bakery chains (cafe quick casual according to wikipedia). I'm hungry now btw...

Yes, sorry for the US-centric ref. Coffee/pastries/FREE WIFI!! It's been a madhouse since the storm came through. I now know where every single electrical outlet is. LOL And, today, I finally brought my own power strip so I can share.

What's tough is that I telecommute to my job anyway, so with no power at home... Argh.

[Avilia]

At least you can eat without having to do dishes. Any word on when your power at home might be back up?

As this post is completely free of Cullen, I'll add a pic:

[R2s Muse]

Avilia wrote...

At least you can eat without having to do dishes. Any word on when your power at home might be back up?

Argh, their best estimate is Friday. In my small town I am now one of only 44 customers out of 3500 without power. Can't tell if that's good (I'm next!) or bad (eh, I'm low priority). After no tech, worst thing is COLD SHOWERS!

Speaking of which... [getting back on topic] heh, heh, this one always cracks me  up.


by dino-myte

[Monica21]

Avilia wrote...
Argh, their best estimate is Friday. In my small town I am now one of only 44 customers out of 3500 without power. Can't tell if that's good (I'm next!) or bad (eh, I'm low priority). After no tech, worst thing is COLD SHOWERS!

And that is at least one good reason why I'll always have a gas water heater! 

As for Cassandra, I have this crazy impression that she thought Hawke got the idol and deliberately planted it on Meredith to make her go crazy. Is that crazy? I can't think of any other reason for assumption about why they went on the expedition.

[Sialater]

silentstephi wrote...

Oh hey, Sia's here. ^.^

Ok, so this is going to sound like a really silly question but I can't figure it out from the screenshots, his eyes are always in the dark...
Cullen's eye color is hazel. But which flavor? They look brown and grey to me. Not quite the amber that Anders has, but definitely not blue or green.

Another question: Templars and their lyrium. How often do they have to take it? Do they start building up an immunity to it and have to take more of it later down the line, or at shorter intervals? The wiki gives a decent summation on that the lyrium can do, and when templars are allowed to take it and what not... but time frames are kind of glossed over. I'm pretty sure there's probably no mention of it in cannon, just one of those details no one thinks of... until you have time on your hands TO think of it.

TIA!

Hi, Stephi!  Yeah.. my thing for cops continues....

As far as the eyes go, I'm going to side with Bekkael on this.  Greenish-amber seems to be what my 360 wants them to be.  But then, this was the same machine that makes Alistair's eyes look blue at times, so... grain of salt and all that.

Modifié par Sialater, 30 août 2011 - 04:04 .