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[LolaLei]

Lol it's always quieter at the weekends.

[littlenikki]

LolaLei wrote...

Hehe, it is very quiet isn't it!

It's a trap!  Hmm...what's a good topic of Cullen related discussion...um, well I know if you do a mage playthrough in Origins, whatever your decision on the Annulment of the Circle affects Cullen's fate in the epilogue. It'd be pretty interesting, and dark, if Cullen's personal quest has something to do with confronting the issue of him supposidly going insane and killing a mage before escape. Maybe that's why he was sent to Kirkwall? Maybe after that episode, the Order in Ferelden thought he might benefit from the stricter control of mages that occurs there? I know I'm probably grasping at straws, but hey topics are becoming harder to come up with lately

Modifié par littlenikki, 09 septembre 2012 - 04:57 .

[LolaLei]

I was wondering about this recently. Obviously his DA:O epilogue fate was retconned and DG said to take a lot of those epilogues as rumours etc. perhaps we'll be able to ask Cullen about the rumours surrounding him from both games.

There's so many things I'd like to be able to ask him in DA3, so if he is a companion/LI I'm hoping he'll address those issues. Like if he really did go mad and kill people, was he aware of the rape/torture happening at the Gallows and if he was, why didn't he do anything about it etc.

[kellyofthemagi]

littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Hehe, it is very quiet isn't it!

It's a trap!  Hmm...what's a good topic of Cullen related discussion...um, well I know if you do a mage playthrough in Origins, whatever your decision on the Annulment of the Circle affects Cullen's fate in the epilogue. It'd be pretty interesting, and dark, if Cullen's personal quest has something to do with confronting the issue of him supposidly going insane and killing a mage before escape. Maybe that's why he was sent to Kirkwall? Maybe after that episode, the Order in Ferelden thought he might benefit from the stricter control of mages that occurs there? I know I'm probably grasping at straws, but hey topics are becoming harder to come up with lately

 You know I never in all my times playing through DAO  I never noticed  Cullens Epilogue. 

[Miss_BlackJack]

littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Hehe, it is very quiet isn't it!

It's a trap!  Hmm...what's a good topic of Cullen related discussion...um, well I know if you do a mage playthrough in Origins, whatever your decision on the Annulment of the Circle affects Cullen's fate in the epilogue. It'd be pretty interesting, and dark, if Cullen's personal quest has something to do with confronting the issue of him supposidly going insane and killing a mage before escape. Maybe that's why he was sent to Kirkwall? Maybe after that episode, the Order in Ferelden thought he might benefit from the stricter control of mages that occurs there? I know I'm probably grasping at straws, but hey topics are becoming harder to come up with lately

Still a good question, I can't think of any.
That would be an interesting quest though, if he does become a rogue templar type, that might pop up and be a problem, escpecially if he's trying to help bring peace between mages and templars. Any of the ferelden mages might bring it up and refuse to cooperate with him and then our protaganist might have the chance to confront him and possibly start a personal quest of some sort

Modifié par Miss_BlackJack, 09 septembre 2012 - 05:08 .

[kellyofthemagi]

Miss_BlackJack wrote...

littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Hehe, it is very quiet isn't it!

It's a trap!  Hmm...what's a good topic of Cullen related discussion...um, well I know if you do a mage playthrough in Origins, whatever your decision on the Annulment of the Circle affects Cullen's fate in the epilogue. It'd be pretty interesting, and dark, if Cullen's personal quest has something to do with confronting the issue of him supposidly going insane and killing a mage before escape. Maybe that's why he was sent to Kirkwall? Maybe after that episode, the Order in Ferelden thought he might benefit from the stricter control of mages that occurs there? I know I'm probably grasping at straws, but hey topics are becoming harder to come up with lately

Still a good question, I can't think of any.
That would be an interesting quest though, if he does become a rogue templar type, that might pop up and be a problem, escpecially if he's trying to help bring peace between mages and templars. Any of the ferelden mages might bring it up and refuse to cooperate with him

If I played a Mage or not If they didn't want to cooperate with us . Id be lke bite me and blow their Arses up!!!!!!!!!

[Miss_BlackJack]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

Miss_BlackJack wrote...

littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Hehe, it is very quiet isn't it!

It's a trap!  Hmm...what's a good topic of Cullen related discussion...um, well I know if you do a mage playthrough in Origins, whatever your decision on the Annulment of the Circle affects Cullen's fate in the epilogue. It'd be pretty interesting, and dark, if Cullen's personal quest has something to do with confronting the issue of him supposidly going insane and killing a mage before escape. Maybe that's why he was sent to Kirkwall? Maybe after that episode, the Order in Ferelden thought he might benefit from the stricter control of mages that occurs there? I know I'm probably grasping at straws, but hey topics are becoming harder to come up with lately

Still a good question, I can't think of any.
That would be an interesting quest though, if he does become a rogue templar type, that might pop up and be a problem, escpecially if he's trying to help bring peace between mages and templars. Any of the ferelden mages might bring it up and refuse to cooperate with him

If I played a Mage or not If they didn't want to cooperate with us . Id be lke bite me and blow their Arses up!!!!!!!!!

lmao I would have loved to use that option in DA2 when having to pick sides; hopefully we can use it in DA3

[littlenikki]

LolaLei wrote...

I was wondering about this recently. Obviously his DA:O epilogue fate was retconned and DG said to take a lot of those epilogues as rumours etc. perhaps we'll be able to ask Cullen about the rumours surrounding him from both games.

There's so many things I'd like to be able to ask him in DA3, so if he is a companion/LI I'm hoping he'll address those issues. Like if he really did go mad and kill people, was he aware of the rape/torture happening at the Gallows and if he was, why didn't he do anything about it etc.

Exactly. They mention the conflicting epilogue issues briefly with Anders if Nathaniel sees him, I'd love if they were able to expand on that issue with Cullen. He seems so solid and strong a templar, both mentally and physically, when you meet him in Kirkwall. So much more so than he should be only after a year of being tortured by demons and bloodmages. He shows weakness briefly when the topic comes up, but he so easily pushes it to the back of his mind. This is obviously not a healthy way to address his issues. I have to think that all these tragic events with the mages and templars that he has been a part of, he has got to be very close to the edge of insanity. Especially if he hasn't addressed these problems in the correct manner.

I'd really like if he at some point is forced to confront the rumors about his shakey sanity, and have the protagonist there to help guide him towards the correct path. I feel like that would be a defining moment on which side he stands on for the Mage/Templar war.

[kellyofthemagi]

Man This game will have so many decision options we'll be busy playing a long time. ( Play Through Bizillionth)!!!!!!!

[kellyofthemagi]

littlenikki wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I was wondering about this recently. Obviously his DA:O epilogue fate was retconned and DG said to take a lot of those epilogues as rumours etc. perhaps we'll be able to ask Cullen about the rumours surrounding him from both games.

There's so many things I'd like to be able to ask him in DA3, so if he is a companion/LI I'm hoping he'll address those issues. Like if he really did go mad and kill people, was he aware of the rape/torture happening at the Gallows and if he was, why didn't he do anything about it etc.

Exactly. They mention the conflicting epilogue issues briefly with Anders if Nathaniel sees him, I'd love if they were able to expand on that issue with Cullen. He seems so solid and strong a templar, both mentally and physically, when you meet him in Kirkwall. So much more so than he should be only after a year of being tortured by demons and bloodmages. He shows weakness briefly when the topic comes up, but he so easily pushes it to the back of his mind. This is obviously not a healthy way to address his issues. I have to think that all these tragic events with the mages and templars that he has been a part of, he has got to be very close to the edge of insanity. Especially if he hasn't addressed these problems in the correct manner.

I'd really like if he at some point is forced to confront the rumors about his shakey sanity, and have the protagonist there to help guide him towards the correct path. I feel like that would be a defining moment on which side he stands on for the Mage/Templar war.

Thats a great  Notion! I hope it plays that way and hope we get it very close to the begining. Since I read you have to pick your side from pretty much the begining if the leak had any truth.

[kellyofthemagi]

I noticed last night kinda surfing around. There are a few different Threads addressing the Return of Cullen Im not sure if it was because of the leaked concept art or not. But there are others assuming hes coming back as a companion at the least. I hope They're right.

Modifié par kellyofthemagi, 09 septembre 2012 - 05:32 .

[littlenikki]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

I noticed last night kinda surfing around. There are a few different Threads addressing the Return of Cullen Im not sure if it was because of the leaked concept art or not. But there are others assuming hes coming back as a companion at the least. I hope veryone right.

I think the fact that his role has evolved so much in the past game, everyone is kind of assuming that the devs have a specific plan in mind for what they want to do with him. It seems a waste for them to create such a 3 dimensional character to just set him on the back burner.

[LolaLei]

I think it will be a big shame if his PTSD etc isn't addressed in DA3. No one can go through that amount of stress and not have some underlining issues remain.

... That's if he's a companion at all. Sometimes I feel like it's a sure thing, but other times I feel like it's unlikely.

[LolaLei]

Which reminds me. When he remembers Amell, he says: "Never met her like again" - I've often wondered if perhaps it was a hint to suggest that he will find "her like" in our future DA3 protagonist.

[kellyofthemagi]

LolaLei wrote...

I think it will be a big shame if his PTSD etc isn't addressed in DA3. No one can go through that amount of stress and not have some underlining issues remain.

... That's if he's a companion at all. Sometimes I feel like it's a sure thing, but other times I feel like it's unlikely.

The unlikely  part is from the not knowing. Its our own defense to keep us from getting burned. We all do have our hopes up. We do know a few facts of the matter but nothing written in stone. So I feel ya girl!!!!!!! 

[LolaLei]

Yeah, I predict one big b!tch fest in here if he isn't lol!

Modifié par LolaLei, 09 septembre 2012 - 05:42 .

[kellyofthemagi]

LolaLei wrote...

Which reminds me. When he remembers Amell, he says: "Never met her like again" - I've often wondered if perhaps it was a hint to suggest that he will find "her like" in our future DA3 protagonist.

LOL Me too. We knew he wasn't gonna be with Hawk. When I first saw that I thought it was odd!

Modifié par kellyofthemagi, 09 septembre 2012 - 05:43 .

[littlenikki]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I think it will be a big shame if his PTSD etc isn't addressed in DA3. No one can go through that amount of stress and not have some underlining issues remain.

... That's if he's a companion at all. Sometimes I feel like it's a sure thing, but other times I feel like it's unlikely.

The unlikely  part is from the not knowing. Its our own defense to keep us from getting burned. We all do have our hopes up. We do know a few facts of the matter but nothing written in stone. So I feel ya girl!!!!!!! 

Until we know for sure, I see no harm in getting my hopes up for him to be a companion. I'd be disappointed either way, so why the hell not?

[LolaLei]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Which reminds me. When he remembers Amell, he says: "Never met her like again" - I've often wondered if perhaps it was a hint to suggest that he will find "her like" in our future DA3 protagonist.

LOL Me too. We knew he wasn't gonna be with Hawk.

LOL yeah, apparently Hawke didn't float his boat. I think he's probably gonna be a picky one.

[Miss_BlackJack]

LolaLei wrote...

Which reminds me. When he remembers Amell, he says: "Never met her like again" - I've often wondered if perhaps it was a hint to suggest that he will find "her like" in our future DA3 protagonist.

Hopefully, especially with a mage.

[LolaLei]

Y'know, I'm not sure I'd want him comparing the new protagonist to our Warden. I'd hope he'd say something to suggest that our new protagonist is the most amazing person he's ever met etc.

[kellyofthemagi]

LolaLei wrote...

kellyofthemagi wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Which reminds me. When he remembers Amell, he says: "Never met her like again" - I've often wondered if perhaps it was a hint to suggest that he will find "her like" in our future DA3 protagonist.

LOL Me too. We knew he wasn't gonna be with Hawk.

LOL yeah, apparently Hawke didn't float his boat. I think he's probably gonna be a picky one.

If now this is a big if!  He is a LI I can see his romance being so much more interesting if your a mage.  His forbidden love kinda you know what I mean even the dialog would be awesome.

[littlenikki]

LolaLei wrote...

Y'know, I'm not sure I'd want him comparing the new protagonist to our Warden. I'd hope he'd say something to suggest that our new protagonist is the most amazing person he's ever met etc.

I think if anything, he'd mention the thing with the Mage Warden was nothing but a youthful infatuation. I mean, it didn't really seem like he knew much about her besides what he could observe from afar. Any relationship with a future protagonist will be on a much deeper, personal level. He'll be fighting at their side, traveling over vast distances, following their lead. As I've mentioned, I really hope Cullen is looking for a lover to be his equal, rather than someone he can fawn over and think he has to protect. Though the mention of my character's amazing-ness will definitely not go unappreciated

[SamaraDraven]

Yeah I couldn't stand him constantly comparing the PC to the Warden. I tried to make a character that was a distant cousin to the Amell family and it was too much a sicking point for them to work out. Well, I couldn't write it , not realistically, anyway... It was hard! So I dropped the family ties.

[LolaLei]

Yeah, hopefully there would be an added dimension to the romance... If he'll romance a Mage at all. I'm still not sure how they'd get around that problem.