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[R2s Muse]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Cullen reminds me more of Ser Gilmore than anything. I get the feeling he is middle-upper class; not quite rich enough to be a "noble" but not so middle class as to be unable to afford a couple of elf servants. I get the feeling that he was one of younger children or a middle child and his choices were either become a squire to a noble or join the Templars. He chose the latter because he is extremely faithful or knew someone in the local chantry that sort of encouraged him towards it.

A strange thing that keeps popping in my head, but is implausible is that he had a woman he was in love with and was his first, but later broke his heart by either cheating on him or betraying him to help her mage lover which might have fed his zeal.

Food for thought anyway.

Ooh, those are fun ideas! Cullen the Squire... hmmm...

LOL R2. Did the light bulb go off for a fanfic Idea. jk

LOL... Sorta. Also, my unethical thoughts of all the harassment suits I would have gotten into if he had been MY squire...

[kellyofthemagi]

R2s Muse wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

When he lets Hawke go at the (pro-mage) end, I don't think that's a sign of his continuing indecisiveness. I think it's evidence of his evolution. He's finally thinking for himself and not blindly following the rules. I would argue that the rules would say it was finally time to arrest the Champion and he decides instead to let her go, perhaps in a quid pro quo for saving them all from Meredith, perhaps because it's just fair. But he decides on his own.

Yeah, true, the "correct" thing would have been to imprison or kill Hawke. But he lets him/her go. I think this is a big moment for Cullen. He IS still indecisive even towards the very end (the way he hovers, seemingly unsure as to whether he should arrest Hawke or step back ... my god I think that's my favorite moment in all the game lol), but he breaks his oh-so-sacred templar order's rules by letting Hawke go.

Congratulations, Cullen, you've finally become a man  ha 

I know. I love that. I always hear the Good, the Bad and the Ugly whistle play as he and Hawke eye each other.



EDIT: Also... I've always read his hesitation as more... OK, if I move quickly here, battle erupts, people die. "Be cool, Cullen..."

LOL and the music ( Wah Wah Wahhhh!)

[Danny Boy 7]

R2s Muse wrote...

kellyofthemagi wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Cullen reminds me more of Ser Gilmore than anything. I get the feeling he is middle-upper class; not quite rich enough to be a "noble" but not so middle class as to be unable to afford a couple of elf servants. I get the feeling that he was one of younger children or a middle child and his choices were either become a squire to a noble or join the Templars. He chose the latter because he is extremely faithful or knew someone in the local chantry that sort of encouraged him towards it.

A strange thing that keeps popping in my head, but is implausible is that he had a woman he was in love with and was his first, but later broke his heart by either cheating on him or betraying him to help her mage lover which might have fed his zeal.

Food for thought anyway.

Ooh, those are fun ideas! Cullen the Squire... hmmm...

LOL R2. Did the light bulb go off for a fanfic Idea. jk

LOL... Sorta. Also, my unethical thoughts of all the harassment suits I would have gotten into if he had been MY squire...

From the "leaked" artwork I get the feeling that Cullen will be one of our first companions if not THE first. His fur collar makes me believe he might have returned to Ferelden or at the very least be in Jader (closest Orlesian city to Ferelden) where the PC, he and Cassandra meet to form the party. Though that would mean potentially that we start with three warriors which would be weird.

[SamaraDraven]

Aveline wasn't in the middle of the story unless she was at Hawke's side so I think her need to ask Hawke's opinion is a non-issue. Cullen however is in the middle of what Hawke is doing and he does make certain decisions for himself, like defending the mages that surrender during Meredith's annulment of the Circle. His commanding officer is standing right there, with her big shiny sword and it's him that says "No, these mages have surrendered". Hawke simply backs him up. The other knights would have done whatever their Knight Commander ordered in that moment and that made Cullen the lone dissenter. He didn't do that because Hawke said to. If Hawke backs him up, the mages are saved. If not, the mages are killed anyway. In that instance, in order to save them, Cullen would have had to fight off his commander, several knights and Hawke. Not the best odds, methinks... Should he have if he truly felt the way he did? Yes. But that is where the devs risked making Cullen's fate final. It would have been more believable but the devs weren't ready to sign off on our favorite templar yet.

As for letting Hawke go in a pro-mage ending, I think it was only fair. He knows he had Hawke to thank for saving the city and countless lives, that he himself and all of his knights would not have stopped Orsino or Meredith. At least, that's what the player is supposed to think... but I digress. It just seems rather sh!tty to arrest the one who just helped save your skin and your home. That's not being indecisive, that's being fair and honorable in my book. He's willing to accept that he may regret his decision later and be asked to answer for possessed Hawke's actions, if that's what happens down the road. Meredith didn't have such strength - she had fear. No matter how wrong her actions, she continued and became ever more cruel because of her fear. The idol certainly hadn't helped but she was responsible for the Circle's increasing misery. Some of the knights and mages will say how things have changed for the worse since Meredith became Knight Commander. Cullen could have just as easily slipped down her path and mere months after Broken Circle, it seems he's well on his way. But he pulls out of that and begins to change his views. It would have been easier to run with being Meredith's crony, to not question. He'd have risked nothing and gained much to simply become the best damn sycophant in Kirkwall. At the end, however, he stands against his fellows to say, "This is wrong." Having a friend in that situation simply allowed his input to be heard. Which tells you how much Meredith valued his opinion by the end...

It's actually kind of amazing that the ramapant abominations and demons didn't shove him right back into a "Mages are eviiilll!" frame of mind.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 14 septembre 2012 - 06:37 .

[R2s Muse]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

From the "leaked" artwork I get the feeling that Cullen will be one of our first companions if not THE first. His fur collar makes me believe he might have returned to Ferelden or at the very least be in Jader (closest Orlesian city to Ferelden) where the PC, he and Cassandra meet to form the party. Though that would mean potentially that we start with three warriors which would be weird.

Ooh, neat  thought. Gah, never really thought about those kinds of implications of the fancy fur collar. I don't really recall from Asunder. How cold is Val Royeaux? I guess it's also a port city like Kirkwall. Like, Jader, in fact. Hmm. I wonder.

[LolaLei]

Hm, I guess it depends what time of year he arrives. Could be winter lol.

[R2s Muse]

LolaLei wrote...

Hm, I guess it depends what time of year he arrives. Could be winter lol.

LOL true. Or, Anders wore his feathery coat year round. Still, fur does seem very... Fereldan.

I mean... doesn't this scream Fereldan to you?? (sorry... it's been too long since we've seen it...)

Modifié par R2s Muse, 14 septembre 2012 - 06:40 .

[LolaLei]

Good point. Hm, in that outfit it would have to be the middle of summer!

[SamaraDraven]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

From the "leaked" artwork I get the feeling that Cullen will be one of our first companions if not THE first. His fur collar makes me believe he might have returned to Ferelden or at the very least be in Jader (closest Orlesian city to Ferelden) where the PC, he and Cassandra meet to form the party. Though that would mean potentially that we start with three warriors which would be weird.

Ooh, neat  thought. Gah, never really thought about those kinds of implications of the fancy fur collar. I don't really recall from Asunder. How cold is Val Royeaux? I guess it's also a port city like Kirkwall. Like, Jader, in fact. Hmm. I wonder.

I thought Orlais is supposed to be relatively moderate in climate. Most Orlesians we've met mention, at some point, how cold and wet Ferelden was so unless that's been changed... maybe DA3 will partially take place in Orlais? Maybe we start in Nevarra or the Anderfels?

[R2s Muse]

SamaraDraven wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

From the "leaked" artwork I get the feeling that Cullen will be one of our first companions if not THE first. His fur collar makes me believe he might have returned to Ferelden or at the very least be in Jader (closest Orlesian city to Ferelden) where the PC, he and Cassandra meet to form the party. Though that would mean potentially that we start with three warriors which would be weird.

Ooh, neat  thought. Gah, never really thought about those kinds of implications of the fancy fur collar. I don't really recall from Asunder. How cold is Val Royeaux? I guess it's also a port city like Kirkwall. Like, Jader, in fact. Hmm. I wonder.

I thought Orlais is supposed to be relatively moderate in climate. Most Orlesians we've met mention, at some point, how cold and wet Ferelden was so unless that's been changed... maybe DA3 will partially take place in Orlais? Maybe we start in Nevarra or the Anderfels?

True. They did say that we'll be traveling around more and seeing more
of Thedas... including Ferelden, I think. Would love to see these other
parts, too.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 14 septembre 2012 - 06:57 .

[SamaraDraven]

R2s Muse wrote...

SamaraDraven wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

From the "leaked" artwork I get the feeling that Cullen will be one of our first companions if not THE first. His fur collar makes me believe he might have returned to Ferelden or at the very least be in Jader (closest Orlesian city to Ferelden) where the PC, he and Cassandra meet to form the party. Though that would mean potentially that we start with three warriors which would be weird.

Ooh, neat  thought. Gah, never really thought about those kinds of implications of the fancy fur collar. I don't really recall from Asunder. How cold is Val Royeaux? I guess it's also a port city like Kirkwall. Like, Jader, in fact. Hmm. I wonder.

I thought Orlais is supposed to be relatively moderate in climate. Most Orlesians we've met mention, at some point, how cold and wet Ferelden was so unless that's been changed... maybe DA3 will partially take place in Orlais? Maybe we start in Nevarra or the Anderfels?

True. They did say that we'll be traveling around more and seeing more
of Thedas... including Ferelden, I think. Would love to see these other
parts, too.

It would be awesome if we could travel around. I'd love to see Nevarra, Antiva, Par Vollen, the Anderfels as well as Orlais! And I wish we could "find" Arlathan again. Hopefully, they'll make good on their promise to explore more of Thedas.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 14 septembre 2012 - 07:03 .

[kellyofthemagi]

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

From the "leaked" artwork I get the feeling that Cullen will be one of our first companions if not THE first. His fur collar makes me believe he might have returned to Ferelden or at the very least be in Jader (closest Orlesian city to Ferelden) where the PC, he and Cassandra meet to form the party. Though that would mean potentially that we start with three warriors which would be weird.

Ooh, neat  thought. Gah, never really thought about those kinds of implications of the fancy fur collar. I don't really recall from Asunder. How cold is Val Royeaux? I guess it's also a port city like Kirkwall. Like, Jader, in fact. Hmm. I wonder.

I'm finally reading Asunder right now .

[R2s Muse]

SamaraDraven wrote...

It would be awesome if we could travel around. I'd love to see Nevarra, Antiva, Par Vollen, the Anderfels as well as Orlais! And I wish we could "find" Arlathan again. Hopefully, they'll make good on their promise to explore more of Thedas.

Par Vollen would be so cool...  And... is Arlathan missing?? I thought it was just... destroyed.

[kellyofthemagi]

SamaraDraven wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

SamaraDraven wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

From the "leaked" artwork I get the feeling that Cullen will be one of our first companions if not THE first. His fur collar makes me believe he might have returned to Ferelden or at the very least be in Jader (closest Orlesian city to Ferelden) where the PC, he and Cassandra meet to form the party. Though that would mean potentially that we start with three warriors which would be weird.

Ooh, neat  thought. Gah, never really thought about those kinds of implications of the fancy fur collar. I don't really recall from Asunder. How cold is Val Royeaux? I guess it's also a port city like Kirkwall. Like, Jader, in fact. Hmm. I wonder.

I thought Orlais is supposed to be relatively moderate in climate. Most Orlesians we've met mention, at some point, how cold and wet Ferelden was so unless that's been changed... maybe DA3 will partially take place in Orlais? Maybe we start in Nevarra or the Anderfels?

True. They did say that we'll be traveling around more and seeing more
of Thedas... including Ferelden, I think. Would love to see these other
parts, too.

It would be awesome if we could travel around. I'd love to see Nevarra, Antiva, Par Vollen, the Anderfels as well as Orlais! And I wish we could "find" Arlathan again. Hopefully, they'll make good on their promise to explore more of Thedas.

The Devs have put that traveling aspect out there. I believe it to be there intention and make good on it.:happy:

[R2s Muse]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

From the "leaked" artwork I get the feeling that Cullen will be one of our first companions if not THE first. His fur collar makes me believe he might have returned to Ferelden or at the very least be in Jader (closest Orlesian city to Ferelden) where the PC, he and Cassandra meet to form the party. Though that would mean potentially that we start with three warriors which would be weird.

Ooh, neat  thought. Gah, never really thought about those kinds of implications of the fancy fur collar. I don't really recall from Asunder. How cold is Val Royeaux? I guess it's also a port city like Kirkwall. Like, Jader, in fact. Hmm. I wonder.

I'm finally reading Asunder right now .

What do you think so far?

[kellyofthemagi]

R2s Muse wrote...

kellyofthemagi wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

From the "leaked" artwork I get the feeling that Cullen will be one of our first companions if not THE first. His fur collar makes me believe he might have returned to Ferelden or at the very least be in Jader (closest Orlesian city to Ferelden) where the PC, he and Cassandra meet to form the party. Though that would mean potentially that we start with three warriors which would be weird.

Ooh, neat  thought. Gah, never really thought about those kinds of implications of the fancy fur collar. I don't really recall from Asunder. How cold is Val Royeaux? I guess it's also a port city like Kirkwall. Like, Jader, in fact. Hmm. I wonder.

I'm finally reading Asunder right now .

What do you think so far?

Just started it . Its good so far . Im looking for it to give me a better insight on whats happening and what may happen in DA3. What did you think of it?

Modifié par kellyofthemagi, 14 septembre 2012 - 07:18 .

[Miss_BlackJack]

Afternoon all!
I can't wait to get paid so I can finally buy the DA books

[kellyofthemagi]

Miss_BlackJack wrote...

Afternoon all!
I can't wait to get paid so I can finally buy the DA books

Awesome I found a Book store here by me that carries them all. Yahhh:D

[SamaraDraven]

R2s Muse wrote...

SamaraDraven wrote...

It would be awesome if we could travel around. I'd love to see Nevarra, Antiva, Par Vollen, the Anderfels as well as Orlais! And I wish we could "find" Arlathan again. Hopefully, they'll make good on their promise to explore more of Thedas.

Par Vollen would be so cool...  And... is Arlathan missing?? I thought it was just... destroyed.

I thought the elves were chased out of there and it was buried. I'll have to look it up to be sure. But for some reason, I have it in my head that Arlathan was "lost" like literally misplaced because the elves have lost so much of their history and heritage, not that it had been destroyed. Could just be my fickle mind playing tricks on me though.

[Miss_BlackJack]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

Miss_BlackJack wrote...

Afternoon all!
I can't wait to get paid so I can finally buy the DA books

Awesome I found a Book store here by me that carries them all. Yahhh:D

Lucky, there's a Barnes and Noble here in my hometown, but the books are mostly sold out, so I have to wait until I move back to LA and hope they don't sell out by then. Fingers crossed I'm not too late so I don't have to order online and waste money on shipping. lol

[Miss_BlackJack]

mayrabgood wrote...

Miss_BlackJack wrote...

kellyofthemagi wrote...

Miss_BlackJack wrote...

Afternoon all!
I can't wait to get paid so I can finally buy the DA books

Awesome I found a Book store here by me that carries them all. Yahhh:D

Lucky, there's a Barnes and Noble here in my hometown, but the books are mostly sold out, so I have to wait until I move back to LA and hope they don't sell out by then. Fingers crossed I'm not too late so I don't have to order online and waste money on shipping. lol

I see you're from California too  hehe. Luckily I have about 3 or 4 Barnes and Nobles near me. I prefered Borders but they closed down and it made me sad when they did . But even with all those bookstores I still had to order my Silent Grove comic from Amazon since none of them had it when I checked :/

Why yes I am.
We use to have two major bookstores here, but Borders.. There's quite a few locally own bookstores, but their selection is pretty small.

[kellyofthemagi]

Miss_BlackJack wrote...

kellyofthemagi wrote...

Miss_BlackJack wrote...

Afternoon all!
I can't wait to get paid so I can finally buy the DA books

Awesome I found a Book store here by me that carries them all. Yahhh:D

Lucky, there's a Barnes and Noble here in my hometown, but the books are mostly sold out, so I have to wait until I move back to LA and hope they don't sell out by then. Fingers crossed I'm not too late so I don't have to order online and waste money on shipping. lol

BN will order it in for you. They do here . Thats where I got mine but it was in stock.

[Danny Boy 7]

I think that even if we don't travel the "globe" as it were that if they really put a lot of details into the areas that we visit say in Orlais that it will be fine. I'd rather they focus on one country so that we can fully experience the culture like we did in Ferelden.

The Free Marches is a melting so there wouldn't be a solid culture so seeing Kirkwall only was fine, but I wouldn't have minded Starkhaven

And that pic...why...why....*hangs himself*