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LolaLei wrote...

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I think I've spent the last 2 days completely on here, I might of gone to sleep for like 6 hours, luckily no classes for me tomorrow, yay!


You made me choke on my Coca Cola LMAO!

I'm deviding my time ( well right now ) between here and fanfiction.net lol OMG, I'm a lame woman


Hahaha! Oh god I really need to get a life, maybe I'll get a boyfriend. Then again how could I just give up Cullen?! Gahh, this is just so hard 


I'm engaged (for about five years now?) and I feel bad, but sometimes I think, if there is an afterlife, and it is shaped in the way you want it to be, rather than the way that it's described in the holy books, or if we were part of the game....I like to think that Cullen would fall in love with me [to make it sond better, or have my fiance appear in the afterlife as Cullen <.<).


Awe don't feel bad,
I think of it rather as my character liking Cullen, not real me, though I guess I am my character? But in the same sence I'm not my character. I know people in these games are just characters, (though sometimes I think they're better friends than I actually have lol!) Hmm this makes me wonder what exactly is the reason people get attached to game characters? Do they feel like they're missing out on something in real life? or just because? Ooh I think I might create a forum on this...

I think I just said character too much lol


I know the reason why I got so attached to Alistair's character in DA:O:

When I first played Dragon Age It was because my friend has lent it to my boyfriend (now ex) and it had been sitting in the house gathering dust for a few months. I was in a unhappy relationship at the time where it didn't matter what I done for him he'd still accuse me of cheating, get ****ty with me when I saw my friends, called me a liar, belittle me and just generally acted like a bit of a **** towards me (don't get me wrong, I used to argue back with him etc.) Anyway, I was of the impression that the relationship probably wouldn't last much long so I figured I should keep the game at my house instead in case we broke up and I forgot to get it back for my friend. One evening I was a bit bored so I figured I'd try out the game since it was there, I'd never heard of Dragon Age: Origins so I didn't know what to expect but I thought I'd find it boring. I started playing and started to get really immersed into the storyline, then Alistair pops up on screen making some joke about Mages and I was like "ooo hello!" and the more his personal story progressed, the more I grew to like him and was pleasantly surprised to discover I could get my character to flirt with him. Then his romance story arc began to kick in and I was smitten. I guess Alistair struck a chord with me because he was so sweet, funny and treated my Warden so well, which set off alarm bells at just how badly I was being treated in my own relationship. There was my Grey Warden off having this wild adventure, whilst my own freedom was being stifled as I was often stuck indoors because my ex would demand to know where I was, who I was with etc. If I wanted to socialise I would have to either have to do it without him knowing or tell him I was going out regardless and get endless txt messages quizzing me about my whereabouts or get a grilling about who I'd seen when I returned *cue depression*.

I think I wrapped myself up in the Dragon Age world as a coping mechanism and means to escape my own crappy life at the time. Don't get me wrong I didn't get all obsessed with Alistair in a creepy way but he was the first game character I developed strong feelings for because he was the epitome of everything I was lacking in my own relationship. I was essentially unintentionally getting my romantic fix from a fictional character because I was starved of it in my real life relationship. Of course, my ex wasn't happy when he found out that I had a crush on Alistair and would be a right jerk about it even thoughhe would make comments about attractive women all the time. 6 months on from breaking up with my ex I'm still having to lay low, he kept pestering me asking for me to take him back, contacting me through my facebook/YouTube/Email accounts so I had to close everything, he even dropped a card through my door on Valentines day.

I'll always have a soft spot for Alistair and Dragon Age: Origins because that game was the cog that set the gears turning, forcing me to admit to myself that my relationship with my ex was not normal or healthy, it made me question what I actually wanted in a relationship/life and was the first little push I needed to address the problems.

As for Cullen? I just really sympathised with his character and the more we found out about his backstory the more intriguing he became and as such would make an amazing companion... that and the fact he's hot of course lol.


Awww, honey! I'm sorry to hear about this chapter in your life. Abusive relationships (and that's what it was) are sometimes the hardest to escape and often people don't realize that's what's happening until they're completely consumed by it. I've been there myself, many moons ago. I left and went back more than once. Took about two years before I finally picked up and moved out of state. By the time he found me I had finally gotten my wits back and was content without him. The hurt and anger eventually fade. One day I realized I hadn't thought about him in like a month and I no longer wished him any "specific" harm. LOL

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Meanieweenie: I've been in two relationships like that in the past, the most recent being my ex (who I descibed in my last post.) It's funny, logically I should probably hate him but I don't... He wasn't a well man, suffered with depression and had a cannabis habit at the time which probably didn't help his paranoia. I guess if anything, I feel guilty, like maybe I didn't do enough to save the relationship (even though it didn't matter what I done for him it was never good enough.) I think maybe it's because I fell for someone else whilst I was still with him (not Alistair LOL) ... Don't get me wrong, I didn't cheat or anything like that and I know that the only reason I ended up developing feelings for someone else (both real and fictional) was because of the way he treated me, but that's no excuse. I shouldn't have allowed myself to get into that sort of mindset in the first place.

That's probably one of the reasons why I'm still keeping a low profile, because I feel like the guilty party (as well as not wanting to run into him until I know he's moved on.) It's like... it hasn't sunk in yet that his behaviour towards me was quite frankly disgusting, even though logically I know it was. The fact that I'm practically a hermit at the moment due to this probably isn't helping my current relationship... although he's understanding, I know it gets to him.

... Wow, look at me airing my dirty laundry all over a forum thread LOL.

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LolaLei wrote...

Meanieweenie: I've been in two relationships like that in the past, the most recent being my ex (who I descibed in my last post.) It's funny, logically I should probably hate him but I don't... He wasn't a well man, suffered with depression and had a cannabis habit at the time which probably didn't help his paranoia. I guess if anything, I feel guilty, like maybe I didn't do enough to save the relationship (even though it didn't matter what I done for him it was never good enough.) I think maybe it's because I fell for someone else whilst I was still with him (not Alistair LOL) ... Don't get me wrong, I didn't cheat or anything like that and I know that the only reason I ended up developing feelings for someone else (both real and fictional) was because of the way he treated me, but that's no excuse. I shouldn't have allowed myself to get into that sort of mindset in the first place.

That's probably one of the reasons why I'm still keeping a low profile, because I feel like the guilty party (as well as not wanting to run into him until I know he's moved on.) It's like... it hasn't sunk in yet that his behaviour towards me was quite frankly disgusting, even though logically I know it was. The fact that I'm practically a hermit at the moment due to this probably isn't helping my current relationship... although he's understanding, I know it gets to him.

... Wow, look at me airing my dirty laundry all over a forum thread LOL.


It's alright. I think we've all been there and we can sympathize. Everyone needs an ear sometimes. :) I don't want to sound like I'm trying to headshrink you but I think that talking it out is something you need to do. If you're still cooped up, it's delaying a part of your... recovery, for lack of a better term. You need to get your life back and you need to let it all out. I know I couldn't STOP talking the minute I got back to family and away from my emotionally abusive ex. So it's ok. We get it. :D <3

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SamaraDraven wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Meanieweenie: I've been in two relationships like that in the past, the most recent being my ex (who I descibed in my last post.) It's funny, logically I should probably hate him but I don't... He wasn't a well man, suffered with depression and had a cannabis habit at the time which probably didn't help his paranoia. I guess if anything, I feel guilty, like maybe I didn't do enough to save the relationship (even though it didn't matter what I done for him it was never good enough.) I think maybe it's because I fell for someone else whilst I was still with him (not Alistair LOL) ... Don't get me wrong, I didn't cheat or anything like that and I know that the only reason I ended up developing feelings for someone else (both real and fictional) was because of the way he treated me, but that's no excuse. I shouldn't have allowed myself to get into that sort of mindset in the first place.

That's probably one of the reasons why I'm still keeping a low profile, because I feel like the guilty party (as well as not wanting to run into him until I know he's moved on.) It's like... it hasn't sunk in yet that his behaviour towards me was quite frankly disgusting, even though logically I know it was. The fact that I'm practically a hermit at the moment due to this probably isn't helping my current relationship... although he's understanding, I know it gets to him.

... Wow, look at me airing my dirty laundry all over a forum thread LOL.


It's alright. I think we've all been there and we can sympathize. Everyone needs an ear sometimes. :) I don't want to sound like I'm trying to headshrink you but I think that talking it out is something you need to do. If you're still cooped up, it's delaying a part of your... recovery, for lack of a better term. You need to get your life back and you need to let it all out. I know I couldn't STOP talking the minute I got back to family and away from my emotionally abusive ex. So it's ok. We get it. :D <3


It's just a little awkward. Where I live in England is quite a small place with several adjoining towns all in close proximity of each other and not a lot of places to go/things to do socially, so there's always a high possibility that you'll run into someone that you don't want to see (in my case my ex and/or his friends/family.) As such I've taken to avoiding certain places where him or his friends are likely to be/hang out. When I fancy having a night out now, rather than go out locally I go to London instead... which often proves to be rather costly since it's pretty far away from where I live so it's a bit of a rare occurrence lol. I'm actually moving out of my parents house this week, I figured having my own place might help me pull my arse out of this funk and get my life back on track.

I think I've probably talked my friends to death about my ex LOL. Doesn't help that I suffer with bouts of depression sometimes, so ever now and again I do a disappearing act where I don't see anyone for a few months until I've snapped myself out of it.

Modifié par LolaLei, 16 avril 2012 - 04:35 .


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... But anyway, I've depressed you all enough! Let's have some naked Cullen and Alistair to lighten the mood!

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LolaLei wrote...

... But anyway, I've depressed you all enough! Let's have some naked Cullen and Alistair to lighten the mood!

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I don't think you're depressing but that's me. :D It's good that you're getting out on your own. Are you moving locally? Or getting out of town?

As for the pic... Yuuuum! :P

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Staying local. I'd happily move right out of the area completely but I've got friends and family around here and my current boyfriend can't really move because of work.

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Ok... the little "gift box" on Cullen is too much! LOL

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LOL Agreed.

Wow. 64 pages already, and there were only 42 pages three or four days ago. lol

I was just thinking, even though Cullen seemed to be unable to understand how the blood mages were able to delve so deep into his most "guarded secrets" (or maybe that was just from a fan fic I read), in any case, does anyone think that in spite of what he thought, maybe he wasn't as indiscreet about it?

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Dunquixote wrote...

LOL Agreed.

Wow. 64 pages already, and there were only 42 pages three or four days ago. lol

I was just thinking, even though Cullen seemed to be unable to understand how the blood mages were able to delve so deep into his most "guarded secrets" (or maybe that was just from a fan fic I read), in any case, does anyone think that in spite of what he thought, maybe he wasn't as indiscreet about it?


Lol he definitely wasn't as discreet as he thought he was, Jowan knew he had a crush on Amell and so did most of the mages in the circle tower (in DA: Awakening you hear two mages gossiping about it.) His body language and change in behavior when he was around her must have gave the game away.

But I think Cullen only thought that the demons had discovered his deepest desires about Amell when she finally appeared to save him, prior to that I think they were probably using different ways to torture him.

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meanieweenie wrote...

Ok... the little "gift box" on Cullen is too much! LOL


That's his special "package" LOL

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Meaning what ? Like everyone could tell he had feeling for a mage? It's possible. Perhaps Ulrich was able to gleen Cullen's weakness from the others he'd already turned into abominations.

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LolaLei wrote...

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Ok... the little "gift box" on Cullen is too much! LOL


That's his special "package" LOL


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LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Ok... the little "gift box" on Cullen is too much! LOL


That's his special "package" LOL


LOL.

Dammit, and I just finished reading a part last night in "What We Choose," where he was touching himself in the bath tub.  You are making it harder for me to keep my :innocent: rep. in tact.   XD

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Meaning what ? Like everyone could tell he had feeling for a mage? It's possible. Perhaps Ulrich was able to gleen Cullen's weakness from the others he'd already turned into abominations.


People must have noticed how flustered he was around her or something. Hell, all the Templars and Mages in the Gallows seemed to know that he was once in love with the Hero of Ferelden as well (according to his codex) so his body language must have still been giving his feelings away even after all that time.

Here's the codex entry if your Warden was a mage:

"For some time, a rumor has circulated in the Gallows that Knight-Captain
Cullen once fell in love with a young mage from the Circle of Ferelden.
The mage was recruited into the Grey Wardens and went on to become the
Hero of Ferelden. This rumor seems to cause Cullen pain, though no one
knows if it is the pain of lost, unrequited love, or if Cullen is shamed
by having had feelings for a mage, of all things."

... Poor baby, reading that makes me feel really sorry for him. Cullen needs some lovin' too dammit!

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Dunquixote wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Ok... the little "gift box" on Cullen is too much! LOL


That's his special "package" LOL


LOL.

Dammit, and I just finished reading a part last night in "What We Choose," where he was touching himself in the bath tub.  You are making it harder for me to keep my :innocent: rep. in tact.   XD


LOL that's the best part in the story! Kinda wished it wasn't a Hawke/Cullen fic though, I kept reading all Hawkes lines in that snobby irritating voice of hers!

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LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Meaning what ? Like everyone could tell he had feeling for a mage? It's possible. Perhaps Ulrich was able to gleen Cullen's weakness from the others he'd already turned into abominations.


People must have noticed how flustered he was around her or something. Hell, all the Templars and Mages in the Gallows seemed to know that he was once in love with the Hero of Ferelden as well (according to his codex) so his body language must have still been giving his feelings away even after all that time.

Here's the codex entry if your Warden was a mage:

"For some time, a rumor has circulated in the Gallows that Knight-Captain
Cullen once fell in love with a young mage from the Circle of Ferelden.
The mage was recruited into the Grey Wardens and went on to become the
Hero of Ferelden. This rumor seems to cause Cullen pain, though no one
knows if it is the pain of lost, unrequited love, or if Cullen is shamed
by having had feelings for a mage, of all things."

... Poor baby, reading that makes me feel really sorry for him. Cullen needs some lovin' too dammit!


When I wrote my first part of my fan fic, I read that codex for the first time.  (I think the codex text, like every other text in the game, was too tiny for me to read; I can't completely recall though).  Soooooo cute.......!!!!

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LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Meaning what ? Like everyone could tell he had feeling for a mage? It's possible. Perhaps Ulrich was able to gleen Cullen's weakness from the others he'd already turned into abominations.


People must have noticed how flustered he was around her or something. Hell, all the Templars and Mages in the Gallows seemed to know that he was once in love with the Hero of Ferelden as well (according to his codex) so his body language must have still been giving his feelings away even after all that time.

Here's the codex entry if your Warden was a mage:

"For some time, a rumor has circulated in the Gallows that Knight-Captain
Cullen once fell in love with a young mage from the Circle of Ferelden.
The mage was recruited into the Grey Wardens and went on to become the
Hero of Ferelden. This rumor seems to cause Cullen pain, though no one
knows if it is the pain of lost, unrequited love, or if Cullen is shamed
by having had feelings for a mage, of all things."

... Poor baby, reading that makes me feel really sorry for him. Cullen needs some lovin' too dammit!


<<sigh>> Fine... I'll do it. Posted Image

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^Noooo...  Let me at him first... xD

LolaLei wrote...

Dunquixote wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Ok... the little "gift box" on Cullen is too much! LOL


That's his special "package" LOL


LOL.

Dammit, and I just finished reading a part last night in "What We Choose," where he was touching himself in the bath tub.  You are making it harder for me to keep my :innocent: rep. in tact.   XD


LOL that's the best part in the story! Kinda wished it wasn't a Hawke/Cullen fic though, I kept reading all Hawkes lines in that snobby irritating voice of hers!


It wasn't.  It was an Amell/Cullen one. :)

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Dunquixote wrote...

^Noooo...  Let me at him first... xD

LolaLei wrote...

Dunquixote wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Ok... the little "gift box" on Cullen is too much! LOL


That's his special "package" LOL


LOL.

Dammit, and I just finished reading a part last night in "What We Choose," where he was touching himself in the bath tub.  You are making it harder for me to keep my :innocent: rep. in tact.   XD


LOL that's the best part in the story! Kinda wished it wasn't a Hawke/Cullen fic though, I kept reading all Hawkes lines in that snobby irritating voice of hers!


It wasn't.  It was an Amell/Cullen one. :)


I must be thinking of a different fanfic I read then... wow, he touches himself in the bath a lot doesn't he!

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Yeah...  /sighs dreamily

:pinched: oops.  Man, I wish I was his girl in the story or the game.

I guess, in a way, I am in my story, but still.... =(  that's not the same.

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So, here's a question for you all:

In his codex it says that the rumour that he was once in love with our Warden Mage seems to cause him pain. Based on what we know about him throughout the course of two games (ignoring all fanfic and speculation) do you suppose it caused him pain because it was lost, unrequited love or because he was ashamed of falling for a Mage?

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LolaLei wrote...

... But anyway, I've depressed you all enough! Let's have some naked Cullen and Alistair to lighten the mood!

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OMG, this is just... You win all the internets!

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I think it was because it was lost. Depending on your dialogue choices, when your mage finds him in the prison:

Here:
PC: Makes you wish you hadn't said those things, doesn't it?
Cullen: I am beyond caring what you think. The Maker knows my sin and I pray that he will forgive me.
1. PC: There is nothing wrong with liking someone.
Cullen: It was the foolish fancy of a naive boy. I know better now.
2. PC: Why does it cause you so much pain?
Cullen: You are a mage and I, a templar. It is my duty to oppose you and all you are.
3. PC: I'm sorry if I ever led you on. It would never have worked.
Cullen: It was the foolish fancy of a naive boy. I know better now.

I think 2 & 3 show that the PC had some feelings for him in return.

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LolaLei wrote...

So, here's a question for you all:

In his codex it says that the rumour that he was once in love with our Warden Mage seems to cause him pain. Based on what we know about him throughout the course of two games (ignoring all fanfic and speculation) do you suppose it caused him pain because it was lost, unrequited love or because he was ashamed of falling for a Mage?

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a little of both. Given that he's still very single, it seems that he can't help but feel sad it never really worked out. I don't really see him being anti-mage in DA2, so if he's ashamed, it's probably not because "oh horror, and she was a mage of all things!" but more that it breaks the rules and violates his duty. I see him being a very strict rule follower.

Anyhoo, my $0.02.