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Lola, will you sign my bum so I can have it tattooed over? You actually do have some fantastic ideas. :)


Yeah, go on then! Someone take a picture of this! :lol:

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Lola, will you sign my bum so I can have it tattooed over? You actually do have some fantastic ideas. :)


:lol: You girls are so funny!

There's something here to always make me laugh at, that's why I love this thread....well and Cullen too! :)

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I just had an idea for how a mage protagonist could be introduced into the inquisition, if there aren't supposed to be any mages within it's order:

First lets run with the concept that the protagonist some how gets mistaken for the one who was supposed to lead the new Inquisition (perhaps you find his/her dead body in the wake of the explosion and discover a scroll or emblem in their hand, which you take/steal thinking it might be worth something or whatever), you stumble out of the wreckage towards the remaining survivors of the peace gathering. The one surviving important members of the Chantry (let's hypothetically say it's the Divine) notices you staggering out, clutching the scroll/emblem in your hand and presumes that you're the Inquisitor. Suddenly people are fussing around you, tending to your injuries (at this stage you're oblivious to your new fate), suddenly the Divine launches into this speech in front of the crowd of people about how you're the new Inquisitor, chosen to lead us to peace blah blah blah. You try to interrupt and explain there's been a mix up but the crowd is cheering and they can't hear you over the noise.

Before you know it, you've been assigned the "Inquisitors cloak", given your task(s) and ushered out the door, you try once again to explain that there's been a mistake but before you can open your mouth the Divine assigns you someone to accompany you on your journey. It turns out to be Cullen, who is giving you an untrusting look. Once you're out of earshot, Cullen confronts you about being a mage, he tells you that he sensed it due to his Templar abilities, you explain to him that there's been a horrible mix up and that you'd found the real Inquisitor dead etc. He realises that there is no-one else available to carry out the task, so the pair of you have no choice but to take on this epic quest yourselves, recruiting people to your party as you go.


I can see that happening er somewhat, but deep down I think Cassandra is more likely to be the Cullen of this scenario since she sort of exemplifies the ideal Inquisitor similar to how Alistair exemplifies the Wardens or Varric with the the rise to power. 

Imo I see Cullen as the Carver/Dog (being there from the beggining (I played a Human Noble for the Dog bit) or being a secondary character like Aveline or Fenris sort of representing the Templar faction while a mage represents the rebellion.

As for the recruiting I think you're dead on as some of the companions "leaked" were leaders/influential members of powerful groups i.e. thieves and mercenaries. I like the idea of having it similar to Vigils Keep where my char's home instance/camp grows and changes depending on my choices and whether I dein to help everybody. 

It brings to mind a moment in SWTOR where my JK had to decide whether or not I send my new companion and his squad to fight one threat or the other each resulting in two different outcomes. I would love that.

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Bekkael...I love that bit with the nightmare. lol

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And this one!

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LolaLei wrote...

cacey lee wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I just had an idea for how a mage protagonist could be introduced into the inquisition, if there aren't supposed to be any mages within it's order:

First lets run with the concept that the protagonist some how gets mistaken for the one who was supposed to lead the new Inquisition (perhaps you find his/her dead body in the wake of the explosion and discover a scroll or emblem in their hand, which you take/steal thinking it might be worth something or whatever), you stumble out of the wreckage towards the remaining survivors of the peace gathering. The one surviving important members of the Chantry (let's hypothetically say it's the Divine) notices you staggering out, clutching the scroll/emblem in your hand and presumes that you're the Inquisitor. Suddenly people are fussing around you, tending to your injuries (at this stage you're oblivious to your new fate), suddenly the Divine launches into this speech in front of the crowd of people about how you're the new Inquisitor, chosen to lead us to peace blah blah blah. You try to interrupt and explain there's been a mix up but the crowd is cheering and they can't hear you over the noise.

Before you know it, you've been assigned the "Inquisitors cloak", given your task(s) and ushered out the door, you try once again to explain that there's been a mistake but before you can open your mouth the Divine assigns someone to accompany you on your journey. It turns out to be Cullen, who is giving you an untrusting look. Once you're out of earshot, Cullen confronts you about being a mage, he tells you that he sensed it due to his Templar abilities, you explain to him that there's been a horrible mix up and that you'd found the real Inquisitor dead etc. He realises that there is no-one else available to carry out the task, so the pair of you have no choice but to take on this epic quest yourselves, recruiting people to your party as you go.

Oh wow that would be so cool.....you always come up with the best ideas..


Lol thanks. I'm just coming up with plausable theories that could throw our protagonist into the role of Inquisitor. Especially if this new organisation will be associated with the Chantry, since a lot of people are currently nerd raging about not having the option to choose our alliances.

I think that would be such a fun way to start the game....and I dont care to much if were only human or not I just want the game lol

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I was thinking, what if the new Inquisiton has been purposely named after a dodgy historical Order, so that it purposely makes our life hard in-game? Like, say we try to assign the mages to help us in our quest but they're all like "balls to that, you'll screw us over like the Inquisition from times of old!"

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I just had an idea for how a mage protagonist could be introduced into the inquisition, if there aren't supposed to be any mages within it's order:

First lets run with the concept that the protagonist some how gets mistaken for the one who was supposed to lead the new Inquisition (perhaps you find his/her dead body in the wake of the explosion and discover a scroll or emblem in their hand, which you take/steal thinking it might be worth something or whatever), you stumble out of the wreckage towards the remaining survivors of the peace gathering. The one surviving important members of the Chantry (let's hypothetically say it's the Divine) notices you staggering out, clutching the scroll/emblem in your hand and presumes that you're the Inquisitor. Suddenly people are fussing around you, tending to your injuries (at this stage you're oblivious to your new fate), suddenly the Divine launches into this speech in front of the crowd of people about how you're the new Inquisitor, chosen to lead us to peace blah blah blah. You try to interrupt and explain there's been a mix up but the crowd is cheering and they can't hear you over the noise.

Before you know it, you've been assigned the "Inquisitors cloak", given your task(s) and ushered out the door, you try once again to explain that there's been a mistake but before you can open your mouth the Divine assigns you someone to accompany you on your journey. It turns out to be Cullen, who is giving you an untrusting look. Once you're out of earshot, Cullen confronts you about being a mage, he tells you that he sensed it due to his Templar abilities, you explain to him that there's been a horrible mix up and that you'd found the real Inquisitor dead etc. He realises that there is no-one else available to carry out the task, so the pair of you have no choice but to take on this epic quest yourselves, recruiting people to your party as you go.


I can see that happening er somewhat, but deep down I think Cassandra is more likely to be the Cullen of this scenario since she sort of exemplifies the ideal Inquisitor similar to how Alistair exemplifies the Wardens or Varric with the the rise to power. 

Imo I see Cullen as the Carver/Dog (being there from the beggining (I played a Human Noble for the Dog bit) or being a secondary character like Aveline or Fenris sort of representing the Templar faction while a mage represents the rebellion.

As for the recruiting I think you're dead on as some of the companions "leaked" were leaders/influential members of powerful groups i.e. thieves and mercenaries. I like the idea of having it similar to Vigils Keep where my char's home instance/camp grows and changes depending on my choices and whether I dein to help everybody. 

It brings to mind a moment in SWTOR where my JK had to decide whether or not I send my new companion and his squad to fight one threat or the other each resulting in two different outcomes. I would love that.


Initally I was thinking Cassandra, but I wasn't sure if she had Templar-esc abilities to be able to tell that the protagonist is a mage. Plus, I could see Cassandra saying "bull****, I'm gonna run this show!" Which wouldn't work, since the protagonist is supposed to be top dog... although, I guess perhaps the protagonist could be thinking "bugger telling her that I'm a fraud, she'll chop my ******/nuts off" and then later on when you pick up Cullen he's like "er... pretty sure they don't let mages into the Inquisition, what gives?"

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You're welcome dear! :lol:

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LolaLei wrote...

I was thinking, what if the new Inquisiton has been purposely named after a dodgy historical Order, so that it purposely makes our life hard in-game? Like, say we try to assign the mages to help us in our quest but they're all like "balls to that, you'll screw us over like the Inquisition from times of old!"


It may be interesting if whichever you pick (mage, rogue, etc) you'll be thrust into the opposite faction. Like if you choose to play as a mage, you'll be inadvertantly recruited by the Divine or other. If you're a warrior, you're recruited by the mages. Then see where the river takes you via your decisions

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Nu-uh Really!!!!

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LolaLei wrote...

I was thinking, what if the new Inquisiton has been purposely named after a dodgy historical Order, so that it purposely makes our life hard in-game? Like, say we try to assign the mages to help us in our quest but they're all like "balls to that, you'll screw us over like the Inquisition from times of old!"


Well Bioware never made it easy with the other DA games so I think you're right.

Warden: Hi *smiles*

Loghain: They killed Cailan! *points at the Wardens*

Warden: Why you son of a....


Hawke: Hi, I'm a mage *smiles*

Templars: Mage?!?!?!

Hawke: Fuc*


Inquisitior: Hi *smiles*

Mage: He's an inquisitor come to eat our children and take naughty photos of our loved one's and unrelentingly posting it everywhere but somewhere not vague enough that our employers don't see it!!!!!

Inquisitor: Dude what are you on?

Mage: There were these mushrooms...

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meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I was thinking, what if the new Inquisiton has been purposely named after a dodgy historical Order, so that it purposely makes our life hard in-game? Like, say we try to assign the mages to help us in our quest but they're all like "balls to that, you'll screw us over like the Inquisition from times of old!"


It may be interesting if whichever you pick (mage, rogue, etc) you'll be thrust into the opposite faction. Like if you choose to play as a mage, you'll be inadvertantly recruited by the Divine or other. If you're a warrior, you're recruited by the mages. Then see where the river takes you via your decisions

I think thats very possible your beginning selections are supposed to vary what happens to you.

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 Aww, looked what just popped up on dA. Cullen *kidnapped* a cat in Darktown (poor Anders), but I think poor cat is safer with Cullen (Anders is too dangerous now, sadly :():
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Awwww this is adorable.

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LolaLei wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I just had an idea for how a mage protagonist could be introduced into the inquisition, if there aren't supposed to be any mages within it's order:

First lets run with the concept that the protagonist some how gets mistaken for the one who was supposed to lead the new Inquisition (perhaps you find his/her dead body in the wake of the explosion and discover a scroll or emblem in their hand, which you take/steal thinking it might be worth something or whatever), you stumble out of the wreckage towards the remaining survivors of the peace gathering. The one surviving important members of the Chantry (let's hypothetically say it's the Divine) notices you staggering out, clutching the scroll/emblem in your hand and presumes that you're the Inquisitor. Suddenly people are fussing around you, tending to your injuries (at this stage you're oblivious to your new fate), suddenly the Divine launches into this speech in front of the crowd of people about how you're the new Inquisitor, chosen to lead us to peace blah blah blah. You try to interrupt and explain there's been a mix up but the crowd is cheering and they can't hear you over the noise.

Before you know it, you've been assigned the "Inquisitors cloak", given your task(s) and ushered out the door, you try once again to explain that there's been a mistake but before you can open your mouth the Divine assigns you someone to accompany you on your journey. It turns out to be Cullen, who is giving you an untrusting look. Once you're out of earshot, Cullen confronts you about being a mage, he tells you that he sensed it due to his Templar abilities, you explain to him that there's been a horrible mix up and that you'd found the real Inquisitor dead etc. He realises that there is no-one else available to carry out the task, so the pair of you have no choice but to take on this epic quest yourselves, recruiting people to your party as you go.


I can see that happening er somewhat, but deep down I think Cassandra is more likely to be the Cullen of this scenario since she sort of exemplifies the ideal Inquisitor similar to how Alistair exemplifies the Wardens or Varric with the the rise to power. 

Imo I see Cullen as the Carver/Dog (being there from the beggining (I played a Human Noble for the Dog bit) or being a secondary character like Aveline or Fenris sort of representing the Templar faction while a mage represents the rebellion.

As for the recruiting I think you're dead on as some of the companions "leaked" were leaders/influential members of powerful groups i.e. thieves and mercenaries. I like the idea of having it similar to Vigils Keep where my char's home instance/camp grows and changes depending on my choices and whether I dein to help everybody. 

It brings to mind a moment in SWTOR where my JK had to decide whether or not I send my new companion and his squad to fight one threat or the other each resulting in two different outcomes. I would love that.


Initally I was thinking Cassandra, but I wasn't sure if she had Templar-esc abilities to be able to tell that the protagonist is a mage. Plus, I could see Cassandra saying "bull****, I'm gonna run this show!" Which wouldn't work, since the protagonist is supposed to be top dog... although, I guess perhaps the protagonist could be thinking "bugger telling her that I'm a fraud, she'll chop my ******/nuts off" and then later on when you pick up Cullen he's like "er... pretty sure they don't let mages into the Inquisition, what gives?"


Well most Seekers are taken from Templar ranks so I can only assume that she does though she may not. As for Cassandra saying well you know, I can see that for a mage where they start with a very antagonistic relationship only but end up being friends but overall if the Divine told her to follow suit I think she would.

I think the Inquisitor will just be in the wrong place at the wrong time and be recruited. Maybe in order to gain their freedom similar to the City Elf origin they are forced into service, taking as either a curse of a chance at a better life depending on how you roleplay them.

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meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I was thinking, what if the new Inquisiton has been purposely named after a dodgy historical Order, so that it purposely makes our life hard in-game? Like, say we try to assign the mages to help us in our quest but they're all like "balls to that, you'll screw us over like the Inquisition from times of old!"


It may be interesting if whichever you pick (mage, rogue, etc) you'll be thrust into the opposite faction. Like if you choose to play as a mage, you'll be inadvertantly recruited by the Divine or other. If you're a warrior, you're recruited by the mages. Then see where the river takes you via your decisions


That would be a fun way to start out the game. I'm hoping we get some sort of origin to explain how we got ourselves into the situation where we become the head of the Inquisition. I don't really wanna be thrown straight into the role, but I have this feeling that the game will literally start like this:

*Camera pulls a sweeping view across the city of Orlais, showing us how pretty the new Frostbite 2 engine makes everything. Camera goes in for a swooping shot of the Grand Catherdral (or whatever it's called), through the big stain glass window and into the grand hall where are freshly created protagonist is talking with the Divine*

Divine: "Inquisitor, are you ready? You are about to undergo an important quest"

Protagonist: Yes, it is an honor / Sure, because I love doing your dirty work *rolls eyes* / I shall slaughter our enemies!

Divine: "The crowd awaits, let us greet them"

*The Divine yaps on a bit*


BOOM MASSIVE EXPLOSION!

Protagonist: Maker nooooo! / ... Arse. / I shall have my revenge!!!

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Well most Seekers are taken from Templar ranks so I can only assume that she does though she may not. As for Cassandra saying well you know, I can see that for a mage where they start with a very antagonistic relationship only but end up being friends but overall if the Divine told her to follow suit I think she would.

I think the Inquisitor will just be in the wrong place at the wrong time and be recruited. Maybe in order to gain their freedom similar to the City Elf origin they are forced into service, taking as either a curse of a chance at a better life depending on how you roleplay them.


I agree with this. Seems to be a running theme in the DA world.

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Avilia wrote...

At least you can eat without having to do dishes. Any word on when your power at home might be back up?

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Yes, some kind of origin or meaningful prologue would be wonderful. Not the random tutorial from DA2. (I realize they tried to loop it together but I seriously felt nothing for my family.)

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LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I was thinking, what if the new Inquisiton has been purposely named after a dodgy historical Order, so that it purposely makes our life hard in-game? Like, say we try to assign the mages to help us in our quest but they're all like "balls to that, you'll screw us over like the Inquisition from times of old!"


It may be interesting if whichever you pick (mage, rogue, etc) you'll be thrust into the opposite faction. Like if you choose to play as a mage, you'll be inadvertantly recruited by the Divine or other. If you're a warrior, you're recruited by the mages. Then see where the river takes you via your decisions


That would be a fun way to start out the game. I'm hoping we get some sort of origin to explain how we got ourselves into the situation where we become the head of the Inquisition. I don't really wanna be thrown straight into the role, but I have this feeling that the game will literally start like this:

*Camera pulls a sweeping view across the city of Orlais, showing us how pretty the new Frostbite 2 engine makes everything. Camera goes in for a swooping shot of the Grand Catherdral (or whatever it's called), through the big stain glass window and into the grand hall where are freshly created protagonist is talking with the Divine*

Divine: "Inquisitor, are you ready? You are about to undergo an important quest"

Protagonist: Yes, it is an honor / Sure, because I love doing your dirty work *rolls eyes* / I shall slaughter our enemies!

Divine: "The crowd awaits, let us greet them"

*The Divine yaps on a bit*


BOOM MASSIVE EXPLOSION!

Protagonist: Maker nooooo! / ... Arse. / I shall have my revenge!!!


Why oh why Lola does your dialogue have to be so awesome....

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Why oh why Lola does your dialogue have to be so awesome....


Cuz she eats awesome burgers, smothered in awesome sauce. Image IPB It's disturbingly good, isn't it?

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Yes, some kind of origin or meaningful prologue would be wonderful. Not the random tutorial from DA2. (I realize they tried to loop it together but I seriously felt nothing for my family.)


I'm hoping that we'll have class based origin prologues, so each will differ depending on what we choose to play as. Maybe we'll be able to discuss with a temporary companion why we're at this peace gathering or whatever.

... Then the temp companion dies or something nasty happens to him/her, cos that the law of Bioware games lol.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I was thinking, what if the new Inquisiton has been purposely named after a dodgy historical Order, so that it purposely makes our life hard in-game? Like, say we try to assign the mages to help us in our quest but they're all like "balls to that, you'll screw us over like the Inquisition from times of old!"


It may be interesting if whichever you pick (mage, rogue, etc) you'll be thrust into the opposite faction. Like if you choose to play as a mage, you'll be inadvertantly recruited by the Divine or other. If you're a warrior, you're recruited by the mages. Then see where the river takes you via your decisions


That would be a fun way to start out the game. I'm hoping we get some sort of origin to explain how we got ourselves into the situation where we become the head of the Inquisition. I don't really wanna be thrown straight into the role, but I have this feeling that the game will literally start like this:

*Camera pulls a sweeping view across the city of Orlais, showing us how pretty the new Frostbite 2 engine makes everything. Camera goes in for a swooping shot of the Grand Catherdral (or whatever it's called), through the big stain glass window and into the grand hall where are freshly created protagonist is talking with the Divine*

Divine: "Inquisitor, are you ready? You are about to undergo an important quest"

Protagonist: Yes, it is an honor / Sure, because I love doing your dirty work *rolls eyes* / I shall slaughter our enemies!

Divine: "The crowd awaits, let us greet them"

*The Divine yaps on a bit*


BOOM MASSIVE EXPLOSION!

Protagonist: Maker nooooo! / ... Arse. / I shall have my revenge!!!


Why oh why Lola does your dialogue have to be so awesome....


Cos I'm a Ferelden turnip in real life?

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meanieweenie wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Well most Seekers are taken from Templar ranks so I can only assume that she does though she may not. As for Cassandra saying well you know, I can see that for a mage where they start with a very antagonistic relationship only but end up being friends but overall if the Divine told her to follow suit I think she would.

I think the Inquisitor will just be in the wrong place at the wrong time and be recruited. Maybe in order to gain their freedom similar to the City Elf origin they are forced into service, taking as either a curse of a chance at a better life depending on how you roleplay them.


I agree with this. Seems to be a running theme in the DA world.


Most if not all Bioware games have a prologue of some sort so I'm sure they will but as you said whether it's satisfying is something else entirely.

Personally while I love DA 2 I was sort of like...

Me: Bethany NOOO

Me: ...

Me: Wait this means I get Carver YAY!!!


Wasn't really broken up about her death. More so I felt bad for Leandra and Carver.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

meanieweenie wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Well most Seekers are taken from Templar ranks so I can only assume that she does though she may not. As for Cassandra saying well you know, I can see that for a mage where they start with a very antagonistic relationship only but end up being friends but overall if the Divine told her to follow suit I think she would.

I think the Inquisitor will just be in the wrong place at the wrong time and be recruited. Maybe in order to gain their freedom similar to the City Elf origin they are forced into service, taking as either a curse of a chance at a better life depending on how you roleplay them.


I agree with this. Seems to be a running theme in the DA world.


Most if not all Bioware games have a prologue of some sort so I'm sure they will but as you said whether it's satisfying is something else entirely.

Personally while I love DA 2 I was sort of like...

Me: Bethany NOOO

Me: ...

Me: Wait this means I get Carver YAY!!!


Wasn't really broken up about her death. More so I felt bad for Leandra and Carver.


I really like Carver, even though he's a moody ****.