SamaraDraven: Got it in one! It was indeed the Fenris/Hawke romance scene mod!
YUS! o/
On another note: watching how fast this forum stacks the pages, I keep thinking that what we need is a chat room. Sadly I lack the resources to make that happen. But I keep thinking it.
Edit:
VampOrchid wrote...
Guess What I got today LADIES!!!!
I'll give you a hint
8gb ram 1T hdrive 23 inch mon
AWESOOOME!!!! Getting new hardware is a great sensation, no? I just got a new(er) system because my 8 year old pc just can't handle Art Rage or games. Congratulations!!! Is it a lapdog or a deskgnome?
SamaraDraven: Got it in one! It was indeed the Fenris/Hawke romance scene mod!
YUS! o/
On another note: watching how fast this forum stacks the pages, I keep thinking that what we need is a chat room. Sadly I lack the resources to make that happen. But I keep thinking it.
Edit:
VampOrchid wrote...
Guess What I got today LADIES!!!!
I'll give you a hint
8gb ram 1T hdrive 23 inch mon
AWESOOOME!!!! Getting new hardware is a great sensation, no? I just got a new(er) system because my 8 year old pc just can't handle Art Rage or games. Congratulations!!! Is it a lapdog or a deskgnome?
OMG that it is!!!
I had an 11 year old one lol it's still going
It's really kind of amazing when tech hardware lasts well beyond what most people and "experts" say it should, amIrite? And although it sucks that they get slow and catankerous and getting a new one is Da Bomb! ...it's still like "Yeah ****es, my pc be a legend." but then you have the new shiny and it's like "How did I live without the ability to play, cap-screen and draw ALL AT ONCE before now?! How did I do it?
A chat room would be awesome. And now that I'm ( at present ) caught up, I must get some sleep. Busy day ahead! See everyone later!
Oooohhh, maybe I'll have Cullen dreams since I've been reading about and looking at him all night!
A chat room would be awesome. And now that I'm ( at present ) caught up, I must get some sleep. Busy day ahead! See everyone later! Oooohhh, maybe I'll have Cullen dreams since I've been reading about and looking at him all night!
Hehehe... yeah, keeping up with this thread is an almost full time gig, yes? Sweet dreams!
As a note I'd like to share, I finally found a synonym for a bird of prey that's not dorky or obvious. It actually kinda fits in my fic a little too well.
Here's another question for you all... or rather, something to consider:
According to Bioware Dragon Age 3 will see us "saving the world from itself." What do you suppose that means? To me there are a few possibilities:
1) The civil war between Orlais and Ferelden that Alistair mentioned in DA2, however thats only 2 countries and even with other countries thrown in to help that still doesn't account for the entire world. I personally find the idea of the main story being focused on civil war to be kinda boring. However, if that storyline serves only as a guise, tricking the player into thinking that ending the war is the main goal, then suddenly pulling the rug from under our feet by revealing the real threat, then that would be pretty cool.
2) The Mage/Templar rebellion. I'm not entirely sure how they'd go about implimenting this as the main story but I can only presume it will involve a lot of torture, blood magic and demons being summoned. Again, I find it difficult to see how this would be considered as "saving the world from itself" since the rebellion is technically only between two fractions.
3) The important mission the Grey Wardens were on when we ran into them in DA2, pehaps this will be the main story? There's also rumours of a Blight threat in the Anderfels. However, using the Grey Wardens as the main focus of the story again would feel a little cheap and repetitive since we already had their story in DA:O.
My theory (and something I'd like to see) is that maybe all of the above will come into play and our new protagonist will some how be roped in to helping solve each problem. Each serving as an important subplot to the main story as the world starts to destroy itself through civil wars and rebellions etc, thus completely distracting them from the real threat, which I'm hoping will involve some sort of ancient evil returning (like Corypheus from the Legacy dlc or whatever.) This could also tie nicely into the Flemeth/Morrigan story AND perhaps make use of Sandal's creepy prophecy as seen here:
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What do you guys think/hope the the main story for DA3 will be about? Would you want to see the continuation of the storyline(s) set up for us in DA2 or something completely different that hasn't been explored yet?
Here's another question for you all... or rather, something to consider:
According to Bioware Dragon Age 3 will see us "saving the world from itself." What do you suppose that means? To me there are a few possibilities:
1) The civil war between Orlais and Ferelden that Alistair mentioned in DA2, however thats only 2 countries and even with other countries thrown in to help that still doesn't account for the entire world. I personally find the idea of the main story being focused on civil war to be kinda boring. However, if that storyline serves only as a guise, tricking the player into thinking that ending the war is the main goal, then suddenly pulling the rug from under our feet by revealing the real threat, then that would be pretty cool.
2) The Mage/Templar rebellion. I'm not entirely sure how they'd go about implimenting this as the main story but I can only presume it will involve a lot of torture, blood magic and demons being summoned. Again, I find it difficult to see how this would be considered as "saving the world from itself" since the rebellion is technically only between two fractions.
3) The important mission the Grey Wardens were on when we ran into them in DA2, pehaps this will be the main story? There's also rumours of a Blight threat in the Anderfels. However, using the Grey Wardens as the main focus of the story again would feel a little cheap and repetitive since we already had their story in DA:O.
My theory (and something I'd like to see) is that maybe all of the above will come into play and our new protagonist will some how be roped in to helping solve each problem. Each serving as an important subplot to the main story as the world starts to destroy itself through civil wars and rebellions etc, thus completely distracting them from the real threat, which I'm hoping will involve some sort of ancient evil returning (like Corypheus from the Legacy dlc or whatever.) This could also tie nicely into the Flemeth/Morrigan story AND perhaps make use of Sandal's creepy prophecy as seen here:
)
What do you guys think/hope the the main story for DA3 will be about? Would you want to see the continuation of the storyline(s) set up for us in DA2 or something completely different that hasn't been explored yet?
I would like to see the mage/templar thing resolved. And my theory could play into it. I've always held a suspicion that Flemeth is/was an Old God. She turns into a dragon and the Elvhen worship her (in a way) and the Elvhen Pantheon had 9 gods, I think. And I believe there were seven Old Gods rumored to be slumbering (Flemeth and another escaped being trapped). Flemeth's story seems to be Big. Sandal has said things that make me wonder if he doesn't see Flemeth in his dreams in DA2. Flemeth talks about bodies being limiting things and how much the world has done to her. All of this leads me to wonder if she's not one of the Old Tevinter dragon dieties they worshipped before the Maker came along.
Which brings me to the mage tie-in: What if mages, the ones who wanted to follow the Old Gods are essentially Flemeth's idea of followers? What if the Maker is so against them because they have the power to free the Old Gods some day? What if Flemeth is trying to save the old Gods? What if she wants them restored to their place of power? What if the Maker is one of the Old Gods too and opposes Flemeth because he wants the power all to himself? Or perhaps an Old God is masquerading as the Maker who is gone now (and thus is the 9th Old God, the second that escaped)? What if the world is being fought over by two super powerful beings and the loyalities of man are divided between them? Perhaps the Maker really did unleash the Blight as a way to punish or get rid of humans for trying to restore the Old Gods, because if he can't have the hearts of men, no one else can? The whole "The Maker won't return until all of Thedas rings with the Chant of Light" thing always struck me as a childish temper tantrum.
If any of this is true in any way, the mage/templar conflict is central to the conflict. One side is Flemeth's side; the other is the "Maker's". And battling this war is what will ruin the world? Oppossing either side can lead to ruin. Either humans will be subjegated by Flemeth and the other Old Gods or be destroyed outright by whoever is playing against her, be it the Maker or another Avaar Lord that doesn't want to share power. Maybe the "Maker" is the whole pantheon of Old Gods put together and they abandoned their dragon forms and stopped meddling with humans directly but were then tricked by one of their own and locked away?
My head spins with the possibilities.
That's my ten cents anyhow. I'd go into further detail but I don't want to hog the page.
SamaraDraven: That's a really interesting possibility!
I've always wondered what Flemeth's motive are. I can't decide if she's good, evil or something in between. I wonder if perhaps the reason she had so many daughters in order to take over their bodies when they came of age was because she needed to stay alive and in human form to help defeat something bigger and more dangerous than we could ever comprehend, if she is indeed the 8th old god and there's a 9th that also escaped then maybe she's sticking around and preparing herself for when he finally rises (like what Sandal says in his prophecy) in order to stop him. Whether that's for the greater good, or her own desires to rule I'm not sure but she's certainly a character worth keeping an eye on.
I'm wondering if maybe they'll run with her storyline as the final installment of Dragon Age though... Unless DA3 will be the final installment?
SamaraDraven: That's a really interesting possibility!
I've always wondered what Flemeth's motive are. I can't decide if she's good, evil or something in between. I wonder if perhaps the reason she had so many daughters in order to take over their bodies when they came of age was because she needed to stay alive and in human form to help defeat something bigger and more dangerous than we could ever comprehend, if she is indeed the 8th old god and there's a 9th that also escaped then maybe she's sticking around and preparing herself for when he finally rises (like what Sandal says in his prophecy) in order to stop him. Whether that's for the greater good, or her own desires to rule I'm not sure but she's certainly a character worth keeping an eye on.
I'm wondering if maybe they'll run with her storyline as the final installment of Dragon Age though... Unless DA3 will be the final installment?
The devs said we'd hear more about Morrigan, right? And Flemeth seems too big a player for her not to show up. I think it would be the greatest fart joke if they went "Oh! Flemeth was just a crazy old witch. She's nobody." after all she's done. I also wonder if Morrigan didn't assume the body stealing ritual was for Flemeth herself. It strikes me as strange that Morrigan thought that but at the end was like "This is what Flemeth prepared me for, sent me off with you for." as if she knew this all along. Unless Morrigan misunderstood at first. She wanted to kill Flemeth but later realized what the ritual truly was: the Old God baby thing. It would explain why Flemeth told Hawke that Morrigan was a girl "who thinks she knows what's what better than I or anyone".
I posit that the Old God baby was Flemeth's first attempt at restoring one of the trapped Avaar lords. She experimented with the ritual using herself and other daughters to perfect the ritual but in Morrigan's case, the ritual was no longer for Flemeth to take a daughter's form, but for the dragon lord to take the child's. Or maybe Flemeth did simply use her daughters as a means of prolonging her life. Perhaps remaining in human form could endanger her because the humans age and die and if she has no other body, she'll die with it.
Either is possible. But Morrigan saying that the conceiving the Old God baby was what she was truly meant to do makes me doubt that Flemeth was simply using the girls to stay alive. It makes me think Flemeth was doing something else. It also makes me think that Flemeth doesn't truly care about the plight of humans if she's willing to use them that way. I think helping humans is simply a way to ensure the Blight doesn't consume Thedas. Because if it does, she loses her power. Fighting the Blight and restoring the Old Gods seem to have coinciding goals to me.
SamaraDraven: That's a really interesting possibility!
I've always wondered what Flemeth's motive are. I can't decide if she's good, evil or something in between. I wonder if perhaps the reason she had so many daughters in order to take over their bodies when they came of age was because she needed to stay alive and in human form to help defeat something bigger and more dangerous than we could ever comprehend, if she is indeed the 8th old god and there's a 9th that also escaped then maybe she's sticking around and preparing herself for when he finally rises (like what Sandal says in his prophecy) in order to stop him. Whether that's for the greater good, or her own desires to rule I'm not sure but she's certainly a character worth keeping an eye on.
I'm wondering if maybe they'll run with her storyline as the final installment of Dragon Age though... Unless DA3 will be the final installment?
The devs said we'd hear more about Morrigan, right? And Flemeth seems too big a player for her not to show up. I think it would be the greatest fart joke if they went "Oh! Flemeth was just a crazy old witch. She's nobody." after all she's done. I also wonder if Morrigan didn't assume the body stealing ritual was for Flemeth herself. It strikes me as strange that Morrigan thought that but at the end was like "This is what Flemeth prepared me for, sent me off with you for." as if she knew this all along. Unless Morrigan misunderstood at first. She wanted to kill Flemeth but later realized what the ritual truly was: the Old God baby thing. It would explain why Flemeth told Hawke that Morrigan was a girl "who thinks she knows what's what better than I or anyone".
I posit that the Old God baby was Flemeth's first attempt at restoring one of the trapped Avaar lords. She experimented with the ritual using herself and other daughters to perfect the ritual but in Morrigan's case, the ritual was no longer for Flemeth to take a daughter's form, but for the dragon lord to take the child's. Or maybe Flemeth did simply use her daughters as a means of prolonging her life. Perhaps remaining in human form could endanger her because the humans age and die and if she has no other body, she'll die with it.
Either is possible. But Morrigan saying that the conceiving the Old God baby was what she was truly meant to do makes me doubt that Flemeth was simply using the girls to stay alive. It makes me think Flemeth was doing something else. It also makes me think that Flemeth doesn't truly care about the plight of humans if she's willing to use them that way. I think helping humans is simply a way to ensure the Blight doesn't consume Thedas. Because if it does, she loses her power. Fighting the Blight and restoring the Old Gods seem to have coinciding goals to me.
Apparently Flemeth has another daughter named Yavana who hints that Morrigan was wrong about Flemeth stealing her daughters' bodies. I've always thought Flemeth was an old god also or at least has something to do with them. The devs said we'd be getting some more information to the whole Flemeth/Morrigan/OGB story in DA3. They also talked about concequences in past games mattering more, I wonder if that includes the dark ritual? It's probably the biggest choice the player gets to make in the series I'm really hoping we get something more than just a cameo. I think DA3 will have more to do with the old gods and darkspawn which actually ties in alot with the mage templar thing. Hearing that prophecy thing coming from Sandal got me really excited!
Jasmine96: I reckon she's an old god too. Do you think maybe that's what DA3 will be about?
Ooh I don't know, it sounds really interesting. I think it'll be about all that you mentioned and maybe this also? I know for sure it'll involve the mage/templar war and I think the devs mentioned it involving whatever the wardens were working on which couls have alot to do with Flemeth..
Ok, here's another question, just cos I'm full of them today lol:
In DA2 the companions and the interactions we had with them felt very rushed and lackluster compared to what were given in DA:O. With this in mind, what sort of companion/LI based interactions/stories/romance arcs/things would you like to see in DA3 that would bring back those feelings of attachment to our party/PC that were missing in DA2? What would help to make DA3 stand out in your mind as an exceptional game?
One Idea I had was the option to play as your companions during their backstory in the form of a mini quest (think along the lines of Leliana's song dlc for DA:O.) Imagine, for example, You've just recruited Cullen and you're back in camp. You ask him to tell you about himself and how he came to be in Orlais, he begins to tell you his story as it cuts to a flashback scene of him at his desk filling out paper work in his Templar quarters one evening. Suddenly the door bursts open as three Orlesian Templars storm the room, sending the desk and it's contents flying as they forcefully drag him onto his feet and march him at knife point out of the gallows and into a prison carriage. You discover that he is being taken to see the Divine to answer his crimes for aiding the Champion of Kirkwall in slaying Knight Commander Meredith. As they arrive in Orlais you finally take control of Cullen who has been physically injured pretty badly at the hands of the Templars as they continue jibe him about his past in the Circle Tower, the crush he once had on the Hero of Ferelden (if you played as a female mage) and his fall from grace (having once been a high ranking Templar official.) They tell you that he is due to be tried and executed for his betrayal as you try different tactics to distract the guards in order to escape, eventually using either Stealth or brute force to get away. Cullen escapes into the busy city streets, Templars and city guards hot on his heels as he pushes his way through the crowds of people in blind panic and ducks into one of the back streets in order to lose his would be captors. Temporarily safe he decides to keep a low profile whilst he weighs up his options and begins to feel the effects of lyrium withdrawal kicking in... Eventually this leads to your character and Cullen crossing paths *fade back to camp site as he finishes his story.*
- Granted that isn't the best example for a backstory but you get the basic set up. Alternatively perhaps rather than each companion having a backstory mini quest, instead the companions tell you bits about their past in the form of cinematic flashbacks and the more you get to know each character, the more they trust you and the more intimate/personal information they tell you, thus giving you more cinematic snippets of information on each of them.
SamaraDraven: I'm really curious about what route they'll take with Flemeth, there seems to be so many possibilities.
Me too. There are quite a few possibilities open to tell her story. But this is officially off topic, I think. Sorry about that. To rectify this, how about we speculate on how Cullen might play into things? In my head canon, he helps rebuild a new Order. I'd like to see him in the mix while Bioware is telling the mage/templar story. If mages and templars are essentially the "warriors" in my previous theory, I'd want our favorite templar in the middle of it, trying to save both sides.
SamaraDraven: I'm really curious about what route they'll take with Flemeth, there seems to be so many possibilities.
Me too. There are quite a few possibilities open to tell her story. But this is officially off topic, I think. Sorry about that. To rectify this, how about we speculate on how Cullen might play into things? In my head canon, he helps rebuild a new Order. I'd like to see him in the mix while Bioware is telling the mage/templar story. If mages and templars are essentially the "warriors" in my previous theory, I'd want our favorite templar in the middle of it, trying to save both sides.
I honestly have no idea how they'll introduce him into the story. I suspect he'll definitely be in it in some capacity but I don't know if they'll introduce him as the new Knight Commander, or a wondering lyrium addict after being kicked out of the Templar order for killing Meredith, or if he'll appear in the game like how I described in my above post lol.
SamaraDraven: I'm really curious about what route they'll take with Flemeth, there seems to be so many possibilities.
Me too. There are quite a few possibilities open to tell her story. But this is officially off topic, I think. Sorry about that. To rectify this, how about we speculate on how Cullen might play into things? In my head canon, he helps rebuild a new Order. I'd like to see him in the mix while Bioware is telling the mage/templar story. If mages and templars are essentially the "warriors" in my previous theory, I'd want our favorite templar in the middle of it, trying to save both sides.
I honestly have no idea how they'll introduce him into the story. I suspect he'll definitely be in it in some capacity but I don't know if they'll introduce him as the new Knight Commander, or a wondering lyrium addict after being kicked out of the Templar order for killing Meredith, or if he'll appear in the game like how I described in my above post lol.
I missed your above post because it wasn't up when I went to reply. But after having read it, I think that's an awesome story. Although, if he were kicked out, how could he be a companion to someone who is operating under jurisdiction of the local government or the Divine? If the PC is operating so officially, that is. If the PC is their own agent, taking an outcast Cullen in sounds more doable. Then again, maybe he won't have to stand trial for his actions at all. There were sooo many who witnessed Meredith's insanity and Cassandra even seemed to be on the Champion's side by the end of DA2. She changed her opinion from "The Champion and her friends came to Kirkwall together with the intention to cause trouble" to a respectful kind of appreciation that Hawke was doing the best he/she could to make a bad situation better. So maybe Cullen won't have to answer for anything. He's innocent of any wrongdoing and too many know it. Then again the Chantry IS stupid enough to disregard this anyway.
SamaraDraven: Yeah my backstory idea doesn't really make sense lol, it was more an example of how a back story quest could be implimented in DA3.
I suspect he'll probably be brought back in DA3 as a Templar still, which kinda worries me because I'm not sure he'd ever willingly leave the order to travel with some random unknown protagonist, unless the Divine gave him specific orders to... and if he/she did, who would the protagonist be to the Divine that would make him/her trust our PC enough to send Cullen on a mission with them? I think, if we don't end up with Cullen as a companion/LI it will be because Bioware couldn't think up a decent enough reason that would sound legit and not fill the story with plot holes.
... Unless maybe the Divine sends him to work with the new protagonist under the orders to keep an eye on her, with the eventual intent of screwing her over, except over time he comes to care for the protagonist deeply either in a brotherly/sisterly way or as a love interest if you choose to romance him. If you're rude to him or you don't bother building up the friendship stats with him then he'll pull a Zevran and you'll have to kill him in order to stop him from returning you to the circle/dungeons/whatever.
I thought that he could end up being sent with you for some reason either by the divine or Lord Seeker Lambert(or whoevers in charge of the templars now) If he stays with the order than I imagine he's the Knight-Commander now, but considering there's no longer any circles I could imagine him being sent with you for some reason either as a partner (non-mage) or to watch over you (mage)
... Unless maybe the Divine sends him to work with the new protagonist under the orders to keep an eye on her, with the eventual intent of screwing her over, except over time he comes to care for the protagonist deeply either in a brotherly/sisterly way or as a love interest if you choose to romance him. If you're rude to him or you don't bother building up the friendship stats with him then he'll pull a Zevran and you'll have to kill him in order to stop him from returning you to the circle/dungeons/whatever.
... Unless maybe the Divine sends him to work with the new protagonist under the orders to keep an eye on her, with the eventual intent of screwing her over, except over time he comes to care for the protagonist deeply either in a brotherly/sisterly way or as a love interest if you choose to romance him. If you're rude to him or you don't bother building up the friendship stats with him then he'll pull a Zevran and you'll have to kill him in order to stop him from returning you to the circle/dungeons/whatever.
Oooh I like this!
LOL I thought you might! Gotta love a bit of drama to spice things up a bit!
LolaLei: I think your backstory idea is great! And your example is good too. Poor, wounded, hurting Cullen being rescued by the PC sounds like a good beginning to me. I just think, that given what Cassandra says, I'm skeptical he'll be kicked out. Though I think the idea has merit. I think Cullen's lyrium withdrawal could add a unique mechanic to the game; one in which the PC has to be mindful of the their lyirum stores. The backstory thing could be cool. Maybe after learning the backstory the PC unlocks the ability to make lyrium and whether or not the PC chooses to earns the PC a huge friendship or approval bonus. The first homemade vial could trigger the cutscene for it! =D
I think I'm getting ahead of myself...
But anyhoo... it's a neat idea. Just needs some tweaks but it's hard to know what to tweak without knowing DA3's story. Maybe the PC isn't working in an official capacity? Perhaps someone in the Chantry hierarchy is working against the evil machinations of the Divine so Cullen's "crimes" and the PC's "rogue operations" have to remain secret until later in the game when they succeed and thwart evil and THEN they can be addressed as the heroes they are. Cullen will then be offered his knighthood back and he can either accept it or decline based on whether or not you romanced him.
I thought that he could end up being sent with you for some reason either by the divine or Lord Seeker Lambert(or whoevers in charge of the templars now) If he stays with the order than I imagine he's the Knight-Commander now, but considering there's no longer any circles I could imagine him being sent with you for some reason either as a partner (non-mage) or to watch over you (mage)
I keep forgetting that there aren't any circles left. I guess the Templars will all be sent out to try and break up Mage rebel groups and capture/kill as many as they can.
Any idea if Seekers are born/forced into their role or if they can join of their own free will? Cos I'm thinking that maybe if our PC is a Seeker then there would be a good reason for Cullen to join up with her, however a lot of people would complain about being forced to play a main character thats part of a religious order, BUT if maybe we can choose whether our PC believes in the Maker etc or if she was forced into it and is resentful and blasphemous then that could be kinda fun!
LolaLei: I think your backstory idea is great! And your example is good too. Poor, wounded, hurting Cullen being rescued by the PC sounds like a good beginning to me. I just think, that given what Cassandra says, I'm skeptical he'll be kicked out. Though I think the idea has merit. I think Cullen's lyrium withdrawal could add a unique mechanic to the game; one in which the PC has to be mindful of the their lyirum stores. The backstory thing could be cool. Maybe after learning the backstory the PC unlocks the ability to make lyrium and whether or not the PC chooses to earns the PC a huge friendship or approval bonus. The first homemade vial could trigger the cutscene for it! =D
I think I'm getting ahead of myself...
But anyhoo... it's a neat idea. Just needs some tweaks but it's hard to know what to tweak without knowing DA3's story. Maybe the PC isn't working in an official capacity? Perhaps someone in the Chantry hierarchy is working against the evil machinations of the Divine so Cullen's "crimes" and the PC's "rogue operations" have to remain secret until later in the game when they succeed and thwart evil and THEN they can be addressed as the heroes they are. Cullen will then be offered his knighthood back and he can either accept it or decline based on whether or not you romanced him.
I really like the idea of seeing Cullen getting the **** kicked out of him by Templars... lol that sounds bad doesn't it! I just think it would be cool to actually see him hit rock bottom for real, really have his faith shaken and give him a bit of humility back so that he's experienced what it's like to be on the recieving end of the Templar's wrath (something the Mage's have to face daily.)
Were you around on these forums when DA2 was announced? How long did it take them to confirm what the story was going to be about and who the companions/LI's were going to be?
Howdy kids! Some fun ideas being kicked around here.
Lola: I don't recall when they started announcing DA2 themes. I recall them trickling out info and concept art of places, then people and then the rest. I could be way off though.
I'm trying to read more info on the Seekers. I didn't realize that they, with the Chantry were the ones that started the Circle of Magi. Guess it's time to brush up on codex.
Getting new hardware is a great sensation, no?
I just got a new(er) system because my 8 year old pc just can't handle Art Rage or games. Congratulations!!! Is it a lapdog or a deskgnome?
Retour en haut
"Yeah ****es, my pc be a legend." but then you have the new shiny and it's like 
"How did I live without the ability to play, cap-screen and draw ALL AT ONCE before now?! How did I do it?
Sweet dreams!
