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There's also the possibility that he left along with Hawke because he knew he was in deep sh*t.

At the moment I'm scouring IMDBpro for any signs of a DA3. lol So far I'm empty handed. Sorry.


I dunno, he seems the type that believes so deeply in the Templar order and justice that he'd take the wrap and face his punishment, even if it was death.


True, but in that same vein... if he knew that persecuting ALL mages was not just I can see him trying to help usher out the few innocent ones. Or if you let Anders live, I can see him going after him.


Lol I reckon he'd leave Seb to hunting Anders down. He could have said to Hawke "You go but Anders stays to face his punishment" but he didn't, so maybe he realises that the Templars were squeezing the Mages too tight after all and thats why he let them all go including Anders.

I like the idea of him letting the innocent Mages escape, maybe thats another reason why he could be in the **** in DA3.

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(I could have sworn I already posted this once already but it seems to have disappeared, so I apologise if I'm repeating myself.) But after watching the DA2 endings again I seriously think Cullen will actually be in the dog house in DA3 either because they'll accuse him of not making enough effort to catch Anders, resulting in the Chantry blowing up which caused the Mage/Templar rebellion and/or because he let Hawke and his/her companions go (if Hawke sided with the Mages.) Varric mentions in the Mage supporter ending that hundreds of Templars were sent to regain order in Kirkwall but that Hawke 'n' co were long gone by then, as were all the Mages by the sounds of it.

So it could be a high possibility that we will end up with Cullen as a companion either as a punishment to him/reason for him to rectify things as a Templar under orders of the Divine or whoever OR as some sort of ex Templar hired hand/lyrium junky lol.


I don't know if the DIvine would punish Cullen or if she would even have the authority to anymore, I guess since the templars officially broke-up with the chantry I don't think they're still under the divines command, though I think CUllen would probably follow the DIvine anyway. I have no idea what's going on with the seekers. If Cassandra is still under the divine maybe Cullens taking order from her now.
Hmm this brings up an interesting point if they do make Cullen a companion do you think they'll keep him a templar or make him an ex-templar?


Who knows? The Seekers are there to essentially police the Templars - secretly, of course.

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Jasmine96 wrote...

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(I could have sworn I already posted this once already but it seems to have disappeared, so I apologise if I'm repeating myself.) But after watching the DA2 endings again I seriously think Cullen will actually be in the dog house in DA3 either because they'll accuse him of not making enough effort to catch Anders, resulting in the Chantry blowing up which caused the Mage/Templar rebellion and/or because he let Hawke and his/her companions go (if Hawke sided with the Mages.) Varric mentions in the Mage supporter ending that hundreds of Templars were sent to regain order in Kirkwall but that Hawke 'n' co were long gone by then, as were all the Mages by the sounds of it.

So it could be a high possibility that we will end up with Cullen as a companion either as a punishment to him/reason for him to rectify things as a Templar under orders of the Divine or whoever OR as some sort of ex Templar hired hand/lyrium junky lol.


I don't know if the DIvine would punish Cullen or if she would even have the authority to anymore, I guess since the templars officially broke-up with the chantry I don't think they're still under the divines command, though I think CUllen would probably follow the DIvine anyway. I have no idea what's going on with the seekers. If Cassandra is still under the divine maybe Cullens taking order from her now.
Hmm this brings up an interesting point if they do make Cullen a companion do you think they'll keep him a templar or make him an ex-templar?


What I wonder is, what are the Templars actually rebelling for? Are they fighting against Mages or have they sided with the Mages against the Chantry in some weird twist of fate? Alternatively have they gone rogue and formed their own hierarchy, ruling with an iron fist and killing every Mage on sight?

If it's the latter then I can't imagine Cullen would want to be a part of that, perhaps he would have in the beginning of DA2, but by the end he's realised that killing Mages nonsensically is wrong. In which case he would be an ex Templar... maybe even a seeker? Hell, he might even be working with the Mages!

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LolaLei wrote...
Meanieweenie: I love Steve Valentine, I have a horrendous crush on him... he reminds me of a magician or an aging rock star... and then I realised that he was indeed both LOL! I remember watching Monk a little while back and I was only half paying attention and I heard this smart mouth comment in a familiar voice and I was like "NO ****ING WAY, IT'S ALISTAIR!"


Not sure if anyone else watched this show, but years ago was a show called Crossing Jordan, Steve Valentine was a regular on it.  I watched several seasons of it.  It hadn't been in production for a few years before DAO came out, but as I was playing DAO, it kept nagging at me that I knew Allistair's voice, but couldn't ever place it.  Once I finished the game I looked up his VA and did a massive /facepalm.

Back to topic Cullen....
After hearing the many, many voices of Greg Ellis in Kingdoms of Amalur, I thought it was nice that it appears to be his natural voice that he uses for Cullen.

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Destria wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
Meanieweenie: I love Steve Valentine, I have a horrendous crush on him... he reminds me of a magician or an aging rock star... and then I realised that he was indeed both LOL! I remember watching Monk a little while back and I was only half paying attention and I heard this smart mouth comment in a familiar voice and I was like "NO ****ING WAY, IT'S ALISTAIR!"


Not sure if anyone else watched this show, but years ago was a show called Crossing Jordan, Steve Valentine was a regular on it.  I watched several seasons of it.  It hadn't been in production for a few years before DAO came out, but as I was playing DAO, it kept nagging at me that I knew Allistair's voice, but couldn't ever place it.  Once I finished the game I looked up his VA and did a massive /facepalm.

Back to topic Cullen....
After hearing the many, many voices of Greg Ellis in Kingdoms of Amalur, I thought it was nice that it appears to be his natural voice that he uses for Cullen.


Greg puts on a more southern English accent when he does Cullen's voice acting, IRL he's got a slight Northen English accent (like Anders in Awakening but not as strong.) Sometimes Cullen's voice slips when he pronounces certain words... I think that's probably only something British people notice though lol.

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LolaLei wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

(I could have sworn I already posted this once already but it seems to have disappeared, so I apologise if I'm repeating myself.) But after watching the DA2 endings again I seriously think Cullen will actually be in the dog house in DA3 either because they'll accuse him of not making enough effort to catch Anders, resulting in the Chantry blowing up which caused the Mage/Templar rebellion and/or because he let Hawke and his/her companions go (if Hawke sided with the Mages.) Varric mentions in the Mage supporter ending that hundreds of Templars were sent to regain order in Kirkwall but that Hawke 'n' co were long gone by then, as were all the Mages by the sounds of it.

So it could be a high possibility that we will end up with Cullen as a companion either as a punishment to him/reason for him to rectify things as a Templar under orders of the Divine or whoever OR as some sort of ex Templar hired hand/lyrium junky lol.


I don't know if the DIvine would punish Cullen or if she would even have the authority to anymore, I guess since the templars officially broke-up with the chantry I don't think they're still under the divines command, though I think CUllen would probably follow the DIvine anyway. I have no idea what's going on with the seekers. If Cassandra is still under the divine maybe Cullens taking order from her now.
Hmm this brings up an interesting point if they do make Cullen a companion do you think they'll keep him a templar or make him an ex-templar?


What I wonder is, what are the Templars actually rebelling for? Are they fighting against Mages or have they sided with the Mages against the Chantry in some weird twist of fate? Alternatively have they gone rogue and formed their own hierarchy, ruling with an iron fist and killing every Mage on sight?

If it's the latter then I can't imagine Cullen would want to be a part of that, perhaps he would have in the beginning of DA2, but by the end he's realised that killing Mages nonsensically is wrong. In which case he would be an ex Templar... maybe even a seeker? Hell, he might even be working with the Mages!


Have you read Asunder?
It shows what happened with the templars rebelling and everything, if not I can write a little summary to why they rebel and everything on here :)

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LolaLei wrote...

Destria wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
Meanieweenie: I love Steve Valentine, I have a horrendous crush on him... he reminds me of a magician or an aging rock star... and then I realised that he was indeed both LOL! I remember watching Monk a little while back and I was only half paying attention and I heard this smart mouth comment in a familiar voice and I was like "NO ****ING WAY, IT'S ALISTAIR!"


Not sure if anyone else watched this show, but years ago was a show called Crossing Jordan, Steve Valentine was a regular on it.  I watched several seasons of it.  It hadn't been in production for a few years before DAO came out, but as I was playing DAO, it kept nagging at me that I knew Allistair's voice, but couldn't ever place it.  Once I finished the game I looked up his VA and did a massive /facepalm.

Back to topic Cullen....
After hearing the many, many voices of Greg Ellis in Kingdoms of Amalur, I thought it was nice that it appears to be his natural voice that he uses for Cullen.


Greg puts on a more southern English accent when he does Cullen's voice acting, IRL he's got a slight Northen English accent (like Anders in Awakening but not as strong.) Sometimes Cullen's voice slips when he pronounces certain words... I think that's probably only something British people notice though lol.


True. I don't notice a difference. It'd be the same for someone outside to recognize the difference between a Brooklyn accent and a Jersey accent.

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Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

(I could have sworn I already posted this once already but it seems to have disappeared, so I apologise if I'm repeating myself.) But after watching the DA2 endings again I seriously think Cullen will actually be in the dog house in DA3 either because they'll accuse him of not making enough effort to catch Anders, resulting in the Chantry blowing up which caused the Mage/Templar rebellion and/or because he let Hawke and his/her companions go (if Hawke sided with the Mages.) Varric mentions in the Mage supporter ending that hundreds of Templars were sent to regain order in Kirkwall but that Hawke 'n' co were long gone by then, as were all the Mages by the sounds of it.

So it could be a high possibility that we will end up with Cullen as a companion either as a punishment to him/reason for him to rectify things as a Templar under orders of the Divine or whoever OR as some sort of ex Templar hired hand/lyrium junky lol.


I don't know if the DIvine would punish Cullen or if she would even have the authority to anymore, I guess since the templars officially broke-up with the chantry I don't think they're still under the divines command, though I think CUllen would probably follow the DIvine anyway. I have no idea what's going on with the seekers. If Cassandra is still under the divine maybe Cullens taking order from her now.
Hmm this brings up an interesting point if they do make Cullen a companion do you think they'll keep him a templar or make him an ex-templar?


What I wonder is, what are the Templars actually rebelling for? Are they fighting against Mages or have they sided with the Mages against the Chantry in some weird twist of fate? Alternatively have they gone rogue and formed their own hierarchy, ruling with an iron fist and killing every Mage on sight?

If it's the latter then I can't imagine Cullen would want to be a part of that, perhaps he would have in the beginning of DA2, but by the end he's realised that killing Mages nonsensically is wrong. In which case he would be an ex Templar... maybe even a seeker? Hell, he might even be working with the Mages!


Have you read Asunder?
It shows what happened with the templars rebelling and everything, if not I can write a little summary to why they rebel and everything on here :)




I haven't read it, I hadn't know about it until the other day lol. Tell me everything LOL!

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meanieweenie wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Destria wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
Meanieweenie: I love Steve Valentine, I have a horrendous crush on him... he reminds me of a magician or an aging rock star... and then I realised that he was indeed both LOL! I remember watching Monk a little while back and I was only half paying attention and I heard this smart mouth comment in a familiar voice and I was like "NO ****ING WAY, IT'S ALISTAIR!"


Not sure if anyone else watched this show, but years ago was a show called Crossing Jordan, Steve Valentine was a regular on it.  I watched several seasons of it.  It hadn't been in production for a few years before DAO came out, but as I was playing DAO, it kept nagging at me that I knew Allistair's voice, but couldn't ever place it.  Once I finished the game I looked up his VA and did a massive /facepalm.

Back to topic Cullen....
After hearing the many, many voices of Greg Ellis in Kingdoms of Amalur, I thought it was nice that it appears to be his natural voice that he uses for Cullen.


Greg puts on a more southern English accent when he does Cullen's voice acting, IRL he's got a slight Northen English accent (like Anders in Awakening but not as strong.) Sometimes Cullen's voice slips when he pronounces certain words... I think that's probably only something British people notice though lol.


True. I don't notice a difference. It'd be the same for someone outside to recognize the difference between a Brooklyn accent and a Jersey accent.


Yeah, exactly like that. I have a hell of a job distinguishing some American accents... hell I can't even tell the difference between Canadian and American accents and that's a completely different country LOL.

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I grew up on the Canadian border. We all sound the same except we don't say "eh?" at the end of every sentence. LOL

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Funniest line ever:

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meanieweenie wrote...

I grew up on the Canadian border. We all sound the same except we don't say "eh?" at the end of every sentence. LOL


Lmao! A lot of Scottish people do that too... and Irish as well. I love accents, my accent is really boring it's just your standard English accent slightly common/ slightly well spoken LOL.

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The fun thing about being English... you can tell people to literally F off and it just sounds so pleasant! LOL Well, unless it cockney. Then you know.

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What I wonder is, what are the Templars actually rebelling for? Are they fighting against Mages or have they sided with the Mages against the Chantry in some weird twist of fate? Alternatively have they gone rogue and formed their own hierarchy, ruling with an iron fist and killing every Mage on sight?

If it's the latter then I can't imagine Cullen would want to be a part of that, perhaps he would have in the beginning of DA2, but by the end he's realised that killing Mages nonsensically is wrong. In which case he would be an ex Templar... maybe even a seeker? Hell, he might even be working with the Mages!


If the mage/templar conflict is going to be a good-sized chunk of DA3, I can see Cullen continuing down that voice of reason thread again.  Perhaps he could initially join the PC's crew in hopes of gaining assitance so he could minimize casulaties on both sides.  I agree with you that I don't believe he would support outright slaughter of mages because we left him in DA2 with this peace that he had realized his true purpose as a templar.  I think his integrity is too strong now to revert his ways.

I don't know if he could fully turn his back on the rebel Order to the point of outright working with mages, nor do I suspect he'd even be able to justify being a "spy" of sorts for them.  If he does in fact become a companion choice, I think he'll have some sort of goal in mind, but with an unclear path of how to achieve it.  One thing I'm sure of, the man is going to have some delicious inner conflict.

The thought of Cullen as a Seeker has definitely crossed my mind and makes the most sense to me.  He stood up to his looney toon commander to do what he believed was right, effectively curbing further rebel enthusiasm. After Varric's retelling to Cassandra of the role Cullen played, I do find it believable that he could be recruited by her because I think he would share her opinion that "not everyone desires war".

I'm really enjoying your questions, lol.  You should make a daily post, "Dragon Age Food for Thought" by LolaLei.

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Destria wrote...

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What I wonder is, what are the Templars actually rebelling for? Are they fighting against Mages or have they sided with the Mages against the Chantry in some weird twist of fate? Alternatively have they gone rogue and formed their own hierarchy, ruling with an iron fist and killing every Mage on sight?

If it's the latter then I can't imagine Cullen would want to be a part of that, perhaps he would have in the beginning of DA2, but by the end he's realised that killing Mages nonsensically is wrong. In which case he would be an ex Templar... maybe even a seeker? Hell, he might even be working with the Mages!


If the mage/templar conflict is going to be a good-sized chunk of DA3, I can see Cullen continuing down that voice of reason thread again.  Perhaps he could initially join the PC's crew in hopes of gaining assitance so he could minimize casulaties on both sides.  I agree with you that I don't believe he would support outright slaughter of mages because we left him in DA2 with this peace that he had realized his true purpose as a templar.  I think his integrity is too strong now to revert his ways.

I don't know if he could fully turn his back on the rebel Order to the point of outright working with mages, nor do I suspect he'd even be able to justify being a "spy" of sorts for them.  If he does in fact become a companion choice, I think he'll have some sort of goal in mind, but with an unclear path of how to achieve it.  One thing I'm sure of, the man is going to have some delicious inner conflict.

The thought of Cullen as a Seeker has definitely crossed my mind and makes the most sense to me.  He stood up to his looney toon commander to do what he believed was right, effectively curbing further rebel enthusiasm. After Varric's retelling to Cassandra of the role Cullen played, I do find it believable that he could be recruited by her because I think he would share her opinion that "not everyone desires war".

I'm really enjoying your questions, lol.  You should make a daily post, "Dragon Age Food for Thought" by LolaLei.


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I agree. LolaLei, you are now appointed Grand Inquisitor!

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The fun thing about being English... you can tell people to literally F off and it just sounds so pleasant! LOL Well, unless it cockney. Then you know.


Oh god yeah, the cockney London accents always really offensive when they swear... which is pretty much how I sound when I'm throwing insults around LOL. I hate the well spoken English accent (like female Hawke's VA) that drives me bat **** insane, there's plenty of them around as well. Bleugh! 

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Here's another question for you all... or rather, something to consider:

According to Bioware Dragon Age 3 will see us "saving the world from itself." What do you suppose that means? To me there are a few possibilities:

1) The civil war between Orlais and Ferelden that Alistair mentioned in DA2, however thats only 2 countries and even with other countries thrown in to help that still doesn't account for the entire world. I personally find the idea of the main story being focused on civil war to be kinda boring. However, if that storyline serves only as a guise, tricking the player into thinking that ending the war is the main goal, then suddenly pulling the rug from under our feet by revealing the real threat, then that would be pretty cool.

2) The Mage/Templar rebellion. I'm not entirely sure how they'd go about implimenting this as the main story but I can only presume it will involve a lot of torture, blood magic and demons being summoned. Again, I find it difficult to see how this would be considered as "saving the world from itself" since the rebellion is technically only between two fractions.

3) The important mission the Grey Wardens were on when we ran into them in DA2, pehaps this will be the main story? There's also rumours of a Blight threat in the Anderfels. However, using the Grey Wardens as the main focus of the story again would feel a little cheap and repetitive since we already had their story in DA:O.

My theory (and something I'd like to see) is that maybe all of the above will come into play and our new protagonist will some how be roped in to helping solve each problem. Each serving as an important subplot to the main story as the world starts to destroy itself through civil wars and rebellions etc, thus completely distracting them from the real threat, which I'm hoping will involve some sort of ancient evil returning (like Corypheus from the Legacy dlc or whatever.) This could also tie nicely into the Flemeth/Morrigan story AND perhaps make use of Sandal's creepy prophecy as seen here:

)

What do you guys think/hope the the main story for DA3 will be about? Would you want to see the continuation of the storyline(s) set up for us in DA2 or something completely different that hasn't been explored yet?


Considering that they are hinting to having a longer game with more oppurtunities to travel the 'world', I believe they might do a bit of all of this

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Lol, never!  I'm just taking breaks during my studies, so I'm slow to keep up with the lightspeed of this thread. :D

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LOL grand inquisitor! Do I get my own insignia with that? :-D

I'll think up some more questions to ask, I usually get them when I've been browsing around the DA forums looking for new DA3 information.

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I'm still learning my new pc and all that fun. But if I eventually figure out the entire photoshop thing, I would love to do one of my fics as a comic. That would be awesum! Cullen fic to comic yayz

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I'm still learning my new pc and all that fun. But if I eventually figure out the entire photoshop thing, I would love to do one of my fics as a comic. That would be awesum! Cullen fic to comic yayz


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Lol, never!  I'm just taking breaks during my studies, so I'm slow to keep up with the lightspeed of this thread. :D


Imagine how quick this thread would move if Cullen became a companion/LI in DA3, especially shortly after it's release! Fenris' fan thread is in it's 2000's!

We'd be like "yeah, we were hardcore Cullen-ite veterans from the start!" Speaking of which, I wonder how many Cullen haters will be converted in DA3?

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I don't get the Cullen hate...really? He's a good character even if you don't fussy him

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LolaLei wrote...

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Lol, never!  I'm just taking breaks during my studies, so I'm slow to keep up with the lightspeed of this thread. :D


Imagine how quick this thread would move if Cullen became a companion/LI in DA3, especially shortly after it's release! Fenris' fan thread is in it's 2000's!

We'd be like "yeah, we were hardcore Cullen-ite veterans from the start!" Speaking of which, I wonder how many Cullen haters will be converted in DA3?


They will convert or they will fall.