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Narcia_ wrote...

Shades_Of_Pale wrote...

Goodness I was feeling so glum for awhile thanks Narcia_ you made me happier and optimistic again(:


Glad to help:happy:

I wonder what I'll do when it gets closer to release though ... I definitely don't want to be spoiled. I didn't get spoiled on DA:O, and playing through that for the first time was like magic. I think I knew a bit too much about DA2 before playing it (or maybe it was just that Meridith and Orsino both flipped out no matter what you did), so I definitely don't want to do that with 3.

I'l try to come up with a new question for the thread so we can speculate until the next big announcement.

BTW, littlenikki, is is way too late to consider getting on that decloaking project?


I'd like to say I wouldn't spoil myself if there was a script leak or something... but I ended up reading the entire ME3 script, sooooo... yuh.

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Narcia_ wrote...

BTW, littlenikki, is is way too late to consider getting on that decloaking project?


She's still collecting up pictures of us all, just link up a picture of yourself or pm her and she'll add you in.

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Wow, I wonder how big the banner will be

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Oh, Miss_BlackJack, that was a beautiful gif<3

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Well, thank you for the wonderful post, lifted up my spirits from the doubts. ^_^

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Miss_BlackJack wrote...

Wow, I wonder how big the banner will be


It's gonna be a big'n, that's for sure Posted Image Yea Narcia I can still add you to the project. I'm taking my time with it this time around, so still plenty of time to add you.

Edit: OMG that gif Posted Image *runs off to watch LOTR*

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I didn't get the impression he was hinting anything about the future. Just saying we're extrapolating too far for what we've seen up to this point, which apparently he doesn't think is enough for our 20pg essays. .. Yeah, still smarting a bit.

Anyhoo, maybe you've already seen, but cullypie was a the subject of a dragonageconfessions today.  http://dragonageconf...ost/32208059198


That seems a little bit too much of a blanket statement for we Cullen fans, I think. We don't sit and make stuff up about him. We discuss what we know has happened and how that could have affected him. So I think it's not accurate for any dev to say we make stuff up. I mean, Cullen's time spent being tortured by Uldred's abominations may not have been shown but we know it happened and can debate what that may have been like for him, what he thought, how he felt, etc. That alone is worth a 20 page essay.

I think it speaks highly of us to not just take what we're given and roll with it. Instead we try to understand the things we didn't see ourselves. I thought that was what a good game is supposed to do. I know when I played table top RPGs, my friends and I would have long discussion about why a character was the way they were and how such a person with 'X' type of personality would handle it. We all do that with our PCs. We pick a "theme" for how we play our warden's and Hawke's and run that as the canon for the playthrough. I'v done it as hardcore Templar and now as balls-to-the-wall mage revolutionary who's in the thick of it with Anders. It only makes sense for players who get so much value out of the games to analyze and think about the world they're playing in.

So, therfore, we take the events that we know of and ask ourselves what that might have been like. If they wanted to have Cullen be seen in a certain way, they didn't stick to the course well enough. If he was supposed to be mage-friendly and a revolution supporter - they failed... If he was supposed to be creepy, they didn't stick to that. Holding judgment over us for liking a character that's "rumored" to be creepy has no basis when the sole moment of this was in the beginning when it becomes clear he has a crush on the PC. And the way it's done doesn't strike me as creepy. If he'd been like "I watched you during your Harrowing... You're so beautiful when you sleep..." I would have found that creepy. Instead I found his crush endearing because he's doing his job and flustered about it. He didn't try to impose himself on my PC so I didn't take his attention to be creepy. So they failed to make him creepy enough. Now Alrik... he was creepy!

Lastly, the renewed hatred of mages that's supposed to make him the zealous Templar was what they began with Act 1 of DA2 and they didn't stick to that. I've chosen to interpret this as his growth as a character, rather than the devs not being able to decide what to do with them. So. I either want him to be killable or have his arc solved once and for all. I want to know who he is. So far all signs point to him being a decent guy that sometimes does the not so moral thing because it's his duty and he's a soldier who's expected to follow orders. It's also likely the only life he's known so his moral compass was made to point where the Chantry wanted it to. That he comes to his own conclusion of right and wrong is a big deal for someone who was indoctrinated into the Order.

If you've ever seen Stargate sg-1, example that comes to mind is Teal'c. He's a jaffa warrior who was born and raised under the thumb of a false god and who did countless wrong things because his indoctrination told him it was right. He didn't overcome the bonds of his enslavement until he was older  and he had help. Plus he was forever dealing with the things he suffered both as a victim and as the aggressor who was now wracked with guilt. He was directly responsible for taking Daniel's wife from her home and thus is to blame for her fate, which included being made a prisoner in her own mind by a Gao'uld symbiote, and being raped and impregnated by Teal'c's god, Apophis and then nearly killed her own husband, Daniel while under the symbiote's control, which led to her death by Teal'c's hand. Teal'c has to live with a lot! His own family and fellow soldiers spitting on his name and calling him a traitor wasn't exactly a walk in the park either. But guess what? He's a pretty popular character. You can point to his past and go "What about that?" and most of his fans would say "Oh but he changed sides!" We didn't get to see all of us trials, but we know they happened and he's given a free pass because he changed sides.

Cullen just hasn't done this yet. Seeing what he does next is why we're all interested because if it was obvious what he's supposed to be, we'd probably have nothing to discuss. I know I, as a gamer, would have less reason to re-play the games if we knew everything. I don't have a head canon fo Cullen. I think of the possibilities and try to see if I can figure him out. ^_^

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I know I suddenly want to watch LOTR too. lol. I love the fact that Tonia is like our own special dev. I feel especially loyal to her for some reason now, because she comes and hangs out with us every few weeks for an hour. :)

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Avejajed wrote...

I know I suddenly want to watch LOTR too. lol. I love the fact that Tonia is like our own special dev. I feel especially loyal to her for some reason now, because she comes and hangs out with us every few weeks for an hour. :)


Sweet isn't it. It's nice that a dev would even want to hang out in here, especially given our rep LOL!

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LolaLei wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I know I suddenly want to watch LOTR too. lol. I love the fact that Tonia is like our own special dev. I feel especially loyal to her for some reason now, because she comes and hangs out with us every few weeks for an hour. :)


Sweet isn't it. It's nice that a dev would even want to hang out in here, especially given our rep LOL!


Haha. Just because a couple stupid forumites and David Gaider think we're weird doesn't mean we are. Well it doesn't mean we -all- are. I know I'm perfectly sane and well-adjusted, anyway. We're just...loyal. And frankly a bunch of loyal fans who are all going to buy DA3 regardless are still a lot nicer to be around than the rest of the forumites who just **** and moan and find things they hate about DA3 when we don't know -anything-. :) I would want to be friends with us, if I wasn't already.

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Avejajed wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I know I suddenly want to watch LOTR too. lol. I love the fact that Tonia is like our own special dev. I feel especially loyal to her for some reason now, because she comes and hangs out with us every few weeks for an hour. :)


Sweet isn't it. It's nice that a dev would even want to hang out in here, especially given our rep LOL!


Haha. Just because a couple stupid forumites and David Gaider think we're weird doesn't mean we are. Well it doesn't mean we -all- are. I know I'm perfectly sane and well-adjusted, anyway. We're just...loyal. And frankly a bunch of loyal fans who are all going to buy DA3 regardless are still a lot nicer to be around than the rest of the forumites who just **** and moan and find things they hate about DA3 when we don't know -anything-. :) I would want to be friends with us, if I wasn't already.


Well... we do have our moment lol. But in general we're all very normal. Mostly I visit here because you guys are good fun! 

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Avejajed wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I know I suddenly want to watch LOTR too. lol. I love the fact that Tonia is like our own special dev. I feel especially loyal to her for some reason now, because she comes and hangs out with us every few weeks for an hour. :)


Sweet isn't it. It's nice that a dev would even want to hang out in here, especially given our rep LOL!


Haha. Just because a couple stupid forumites and David Gaider think we're weird doesn't mean we are. Well it doesn't mean we -all- are. I know I'm perfectly sane and well-adjusted, anyway. We're just...loyal. And frankly a bunch of loyal fans who are all going to buy DA3 regardless are still a lot nicer to be around than the rest of the forumites who just **** and moan and find things they hate about DA3 when we don't know -anything-. :) I would want to be friends with us, if I wasn't already.


Thatt's definitely why I post here. I actually don't even read the rest of the forum, lol. It's not because I don't like other characters or games. It's just because I like hanging out with you all.

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Hm, I don't think Gaider is gonna answer our question about Cullen's surname. I wonder if he'd have a ridiculous one?

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I wonder if there's gonna be a question of the month this week?

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LolaLei wrote...

I wonder if there's gonna be a question of the month this week?



I hope it's..."Why do all the fangirls love Cullen?"

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Avejajed wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I know I suddenly want to watch LOTR too. lol. I love the fact that Tonia is like our own special dev. I feel especially loyal to her for some reason now, because she comes and hangs out with us every few weeks for an hour. :)


Sweet isn't it. It's nice that a dev would even want to hang out in here, especially given our rep LOL!


Haha. Just because a couple stupid forumites and David Gaider think we're weird doesn't mean we are. Well it doesn't mean we -all- are. I know I'm perfectly sane and well-adjusted, anyway. We're just...loyal. And frankly a bunch of loyal fans who are all going to buy DA3 regardless are still a lot nicer to be around than the rest of the forumites who just **** and moan and find things they hate about DA3 when we don't know -anything-. :) I would want to be friends with us, if I wasn't already.


Now this is seeing too much into something with very little basis. There are hundreds of new DA3 threads, 20% of which are whinings about what's going to make it suck, when we know...

Not...

A...

Blighted...

Thing!

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Narcia_ wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I know I suddenly want to watch LOTR too. lol. I love the fact that Tonia is like our own special dev. I feel especially loyal to her for some reason now, because she comes and hangs out with us every few weeks for an hour. :)


Sweet isn't it. It's nice that a dev would even want to hang out in here, especially given our rep LOL!


Haha. Just because a couple stupid forumites and David Gaider think we're weird doesn't mean we are. Well it doesn't mean we -all- are. I know I'm perfectly sane and well-adjusted, anyway. We're just...loyal. And frankly a bunch of loyal fans who are all going to buy DA3 regardless are still a lot nicer to be around than the rest of the forumites who just **** and moan and find things they hate about DA3 when we don't know -anything-. :) I would want to be friends with us, if I wasn't already.


Thatt's definitely why I post here. I actually don't even read the rest of the forum, lol. It's not because I don't like other characters or games. It's just because I like hanging out with you all.


This is definitely one of the nicest threads I participate in and it's very refreshing to see everyone being nice to each other. We might be weird at times (well I definitely am) but no different than any other threads on these forums. So I don't know why so many people think it odd. I mean you guys should see the Kaidan thread which I used to participate in, now that's definitely a weird thread :lol:

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Avejajed wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I wonder if there's gonna be a question of the month this week?



I hope it's..."Why do all the fangirls love Cullen?"




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mayrabgood wrote...

Narcia_ wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I know I suddenly want to watch LOTR too. lol. I love the fact that Tonia is like our own special dev. I feel especially loyal to her for some reason now, because she comes and hangs out with us every few weeks for an hour. :)


Sweet isn't it. It's nice that a dev would even want to hang out in here, especially given our rep LOL!


Haha. Just because a couple stupid forumites and David Gaider think we're weird doesn't mean we are. Well it doesn't mean we -all- are. I know I'm perfectly sane and well-adjusted, anyway. We're just...loyal. And frankly a bunch of loyal fans who are all going to buy DA3 regardless are still a lot nicer to be around than the rest of the forumites who just **** and moan and find things they hate about DA3 when we don't know -anything-. :) I would want to be friends with us, if I wasn't already.


Thatt's definitely why I post here. I actually don't even read the rest of the forum, lol. It's not because I don't like other characters or games. It's just because I like hanging out with you all.


This is definitely one of the nicest threads I participate in and it's very refreshing to see everyone being nice to each other. We might be weird at times (well I definitely am) but no different than any other threads on these forums. So I don't know why so many people think it odd. I mean you guys should see the Kaidan thread which I used to participate in, now that's definitely a weird thread :lol:


LOL! I was part of that one too! 

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mayrabgood wrote...

This is definitely one of the
nicest threads I participate in and it's very refreshing to see everyone
being nice to each other. We might be weird at times (well I definitely
am) but no different than any other threads on these forums. So I don't
know why so many people think it odd. I mean you guys should see the
Kaidan thread which I used to participate in, now that's definitely a
weird thread :lol:


Gizmo! :o:wub:

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@Lola - Really? I think that's why I thought your name looked familiar :P I haven't been a part of it in so long. It just changed so much since ME3 was released and everyone I knew disappeared from it.

@Samara - Isn't he cute! I love little Gizmo 8D

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LolaLei wrote...

mayrabgood wrote...

Narcia_ wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I know I suddenly want to watch LOTR too. lol. I love the fact that Tonia is like our own special dev. I feel especially loyal to her for some reason now, because she comes and hangs out with us every few weeks for an hour. :)


Sweet isn't it. It's nice that a dev would even want to hang out in here, especially given our rep LOL!


Haha. Just because a couple stupid forumites and David Gaider think we're weird doesn't mean we are. Well it doesn't mean we -all- are. I know I'm perfectly sane and well-adjusted, anyway. We're just...loyal. And frankly a bunch of loyal fans who are all going to buy DA3 regardless are still a lot nicer to be around than the rest of the forumites who just **** and moan and find things they hate about DA3 when we don't know -anything-. :) I would want to be friends with us, if I wasn't already.


Thatt's definitely why I post here. I actually don't even read the rest of the forum, lol. It's not because I don't like other characters or games. It's just because I like hanging out with you all.


This is definitely one of the nicest threads I participate in and it's very refreshing to see everyone being nice to each other. We might be weird at times (well I definitely am) but no different than any other threads on these forums. So I don't know why so many people think it odd. I mean you guys should see the Kaidan thread which I used to participate in, now that's definitely a weird thread :lol:


LOL! I was part of that one too! 

goes for me aswell.But you'd have to add Alistair and Anders to my list. ( The Shame of it) This one is the bestest along with you all :lol:

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mayrabgood wrote...

@Lola - Really? I think that's why I thought your name looked familiar :P I haven't been a part of it in so long. It just changed so much since ME3 was released and everyone I knew disappeared from it.

@Samara - Isn't he cute! I love little Gizmo 8D


Yeah, I stuck around for a while, but once ME3 was done and we'd discussed that there wasn't much else to say. Especially since that was the last ever game starring Shepard 'n' co.

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LolaLei wrote...

mayrabgood wrote...

@Lola - Really? I think that's why I thought your name looked familiar :P I haven't been a part of it in so long. It just changed so much since ME3 was released and everyone I knew disappeared from it.

@Samara - Isn't he cute! I love little Gizmo 8D


Yeah, I stuck around for a while, but once ME3 was done and we'd discussed that there wasn't much else to say. Especially since that was the last ever game starring Shepard 'n' co.


But surprisingly, it's still going strong!  Although it's just pictures being posted up and weird conversations haha. The Cullen thread is definitely the best character thread I've participated in :happy:. I hope it stays that way. 

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mayrabgood wrote...

@Lola - Really? I think that's why I thought your name looked familiar :P I haven't been a part of it in so long. It just changed so much since ME3 was released and everyone I knew disappeared from it.

@Samara - Isn't he cute! I love little Gizmo 8D


He is! I love Gizmo. :wub: