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[VampOrchid]

LolaLei wrote...

who's the artist?

[MissRedZelda]

Me personally, I think Cullen should be like Alistair and Garrus, and be a little present specifically for us ladies ;-) Not that I think having same sex relations is wrong (I don't, seriously), I just think having everyone bi, like DA2 did, is a cheap and half-assed way out of it. In Mass Effect 3, Trainer and Cortez were incredibly interesting characters, and I liked that fact that they were strictly gay and lesbian.

And I haven't read any complaints about Garrus being strictly for the ladies. I think it's cos his bro/sis-mance when not romanced is just as fun, sweet and touching as his romance. Ptobably why I'm such a Garrus fangirl ;-) Maybe the writing team should take a leaf out of ME3's books and do that for Cullen.

EDIT: Wow. 795 pages. Just five more and we'll hit 800! Post away ladies and gents! Post like it's your last day alive!

Modifié par MissRedZelda, 27 septembre 2012 - 12:18 .

[meanieweenie]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

If Cullen is available for both genders, how do you think they should differentiate the romance between the two genders? I would like for them to have some gender-specific pronounce. As much as I love Kaidan, a lot of what he said was pretty gender neutral. Maybe some gender-specific scenes would be nice, but I think it may take up a lot of scarce resources they have at the moment.

That's a good question. I don't know if I have a definitive answer. Would there be something other than a gender neutral comment he could make? In theory, don't guys and gals both kind of want to hear the same thing from an LI? They want to know their feelings are reciprocated, that they are appreciated. I guess the difference would be (a stereotype, I know) a girl may want to hear how you make them weak in the knees for reasons X, Y, Z and a guy may rather hear that you make them feel safe and secure. Forgive me if this comes off as offensive. I know sometimes what I'm trying to say doesn't come across exactly right.

[Battlebloodmage]

MissRedZelda wrote...

Me personally, I think Cullen should be like Alistair and Garrus, and be a little present specifically for us ladies ;-) Not that I think having same sex relations is wrong (I don't, seriously), I just think having everyone bi, like DA2 did, is a cheap and half-assed way out of it. In Mass Effect 3, Trainer and Cortez were incredibly interesting characters, and I liked that fact that they were strictly gay and lesbian.

And I haven't read any complaints about Garrus being strictly for the ladies. I think it's cos his bro/sis-mance when not romanced is just as fun, sweet and touching as his romance. Ptobably why I'm such a Garrus fangirl ;-) Maybe the writing team should take a leaf out of ME3's books and do that for Cullen.

It seems like Gaider hinted at bisexuality for most if not all of the romance in DA3. I like Cullen since the first game, so I do hope he's available for all genders. I like strong type of male characters like Alistair or Kaidan, so Cortez and Zevran do nothing to me. I was happy that Kaidan was available for both genders. I don't mind if the fangirls have someone that are straight like Alistair or Garrus in DA3, but it would suck if Cullen is restricted to one gender since I have been eyeing him since the original game. :innocent:

[berelinde]

@RedZelda: No offense, but I hope they don't. There are plenty of threads about that already. No need to go there again.

Sorry for the terseness. Trying to get out of work.

Modifié par berelinde, 27 septembre 2012 - 12:23 .

[Battlebloodmage]

meanieweenie wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

If Cullen is available for both genders, how do you think they should differentiate the romance between the two genders? I would like for them to have some gender-specific pronounce. As much as I love Kaidan, a lot of what he said was pretty gender neutral. Maybe some gender-specific scenes would be nice, but I think it may take up a lot of scarce resources they have at the moment.

That's a good question. I don't know if I have a definitive answer. Would there be something other than a gender neutral comment he could make? In theory, don't guys and gals both kind of want to hear the same thing from an LI? They want to know their feelings are reciprocated, that they are appreciated. I guess the difference would be (a stereotype, I know) a girl may want to hear how you make them weak in the knees for reasons X, Y, Z and a guy may rather hear that you make them feel safe and secure. Forgive me if this comes off as offensive. I know sometimes what I'm trying to say doesn't come across exactly right.

No worries, I don't think you make anything offensive at all. For me, I do think that girls are more on the emotional types while guys are more action-oriented, so maybe the lock-in moments could be different like the girls will have a scene with him on a date while the guys will have it on the battlefield. Now, I feel like I'm making some offensive stereotype also.

[berelinde]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

Me personally, I think Cullen should be like Alistair and Garrus, and be a little present specifically for us ladies ;-) Not that I think having same sex relations is wrong (I don't, seriously), I just think having everyone bi, like DA2 did, is a cheap and half-assed way out of it. In Mass Effect 3, Trainer and Cortez were incredibly interesting characters, and I liked that fact that they were strictly gay and lesbian.

And I haven't read any complaints about Garrus being strictly for the ladies. I think it's cos his bro/sis-mance when not romanced is just as fun, sweet and touching as his romance. Ptobably why I'm such a Garrus fangirl ;-) Maybe the writing team should take a leaf out of ME3's books and do that for Cullen.

It seems like Gaider hinted at bisexuality for most if not all of the romance in DA3. I like Cullen since the first game, so I do hope he's available for all genders. I like strong type of male characters like Alistair or Kaidan, so Cortez and Zevran do nothing to me. I was happy that Kaidan was available for both genders. I don't mind if the fangirls have someone that are straight like Alistair or Garrus in DA3, but it would suck if Cullen is restricted to one gender since I have been eyeing him since the original game. :innocent:

That pretty much sums up the dilema. It sucks when the one you want isn't available. I was prevented from doing a F/F romance in DA:O because I couldn't stand Leliana and Morrigan only liked guys.

[LolaLei]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

If Cullen is available for both genders, how do you think they should differentiate the romance between the two genders? I would like for them to have some gender-specific pronounce. As much as I love Kaidan, a lot of what he said was pretty gender neutral. Maybe some gender-specific scenes would be nice, but I think it may take up a lot of scarce resources they have at the moment.

Maybe he'd have some extra dialogue about how he'd never found a man attractive before until he met our protagonist etc.

[Battlebloodmage]

LolaLei wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

If Cullen is available for both genders, how do you think they should differentiate the romance between the two genders? I would like for them to have some gender-specific pronounce. As much as I love Kaidan, a lot of what he said was pretty gender neutral. Maybe some gender-specific scenes would be nice, but I think it may take up a lot of scarce resources they have at the moment.

Maybe he'd have some extra dialogue about how he'd never found a man attractive before until he met our protagonist etc.

lol, that would sound awesome. Kaidan did say something similar if you don't import the game. He said like he wants someone handsome.

[VampOrchid]

Argh, I posted in that god awful thread...

[MissRedZelda]

Sorry if I offended anyone. I just don't want the annoying rapid, yaoi fangirls getting their claws into Cullen and turning him into a shadow of his former self. Like they did with poor Fenris and Anders. I'm so glad Alistair escaped that.

Again, sorry if I offended anyone.

[Battlebloodmage]

MissRedZelda wrote...

Sorry if I offended anyone. I just don't want the annoying rapid, yaoi fangirls getting their claws into Cullen and turning him into a shadow of his former self. Like they did with poor Fenris and Anders. I'm so glad Alistair escaped that.

Again, sorry if I offended anyone.

Actually Alistair didn't, just saying.

I have no problem with people wanting a character specifically for themselves. I wish Kaidan was strictly M/M.

[Minttymint]

MissRedZelda wrote...

Me personally, I think Cullen should be like Alistair and Garrus, and be a little present specifically for us ladies ;-) Not that I think having same sex relations is wrong (I don't, seriously), I just think having everyone bi, like DA2 did, is a cheap and half-assed way out of it. In Mass Effect 3, Trainer and Cortez were incredibly interesting characters, and I liked that fact that they were strictly gay and lesbian.

And I haven't read any complaints about Garrus being strictly for the ladies. I think it's cos his bro/sis-mance when not romanced is just as fun, sweet and touching as his romance. Ptobably why I'm such a Garrus fangirl ;-) Maybe the writing team should take a leaf out of ME3's books and do that for Cullen.

EDIT: Wow. 795 pages. Just five more and we'll hit 800! Post away ladies and gents! Post like it's your last day alive!

I actually agree with you... *Dont hate me* I just... Cullen is straight to me, him as a bisexual just doesnt add up in my head. I want people to romance who they want but... Gah.

[MissRedZelda]

Probably wouldn't have worked in ME1, since he was the only straight LI for Femshep. If they had gone down that route, poor Jane would have been Forever Alone.

Now, if Garrus had been romanceable in ME1 . . .

[brushyourteeth]

MissRedZelda wrote...

Sorry if I offended anyone. I just don't want the annoying rapid, yaoi fangirls getting their claws into Cullen and turning him into a shadow of his former self. Like they did with poor Fenris and Anders. I'm so glad Alistair escaped that.

Again, sorry if I offended anyone.

You don't have to be sorry for anything, MRZ! 

You didn't say anything intolerant or rude -- you just may happen to have an opinion that differs from someone else's, and that's ok. If we can't handle hearing an opinion that's not the same as ours without being offended by it, the BSN is probably a dangerous place for us to hang out. 

Your opinion is just as valid as everyone's, and I thought you expressed it quite kindly.

[brushyourteeth]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

Sorry if I offended anyone. I just don't want the annoying rapid, yaoi fangirls getting their claws into Cullen and turning him into a shadow of his former self. Like they did with poor Fenris and Anders. I'm so glad Alistair escaped that.

Again, sorry if I offended anyone.

Actually Alistair didn't, just saying.

I have no problem with people wanting a character specifically for themselves. I wish Kaidan was strictly M/M.

Stop right there!

I have to tell you how much I respect your honesty. And your willingness to see the other side. Bravo, bravo. 

I totally wish there were gay and lesbian only options. I just feel like letting some of the characters be *maybe gay if you want them to* isn't really the same thing as inclusion. 

And that's coming from a straight girl who only plays straight girls.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 27 septembre 2012 - 01:06 .

[LolaLei]

Meh, I'd shag the lot of them. You've gotta try these things lol.

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

Meh, I'd shag the lot of them. You've gotta try these things lol.

If Cullen discovered he's actually just into men for DAIII, I'd totally have to try it. LOL!

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Meh, I'd shag the lot of them. You've gotta try these things lol.

If Cullen discovered he's actually just into men for DAIII, I'd totally have to try it. LOL!

I'd make the sexiest damn protagonist EVER and bum that man into next week. *Ahem*

Modifié par LolaLei, 27 septembre 2012 - 01:11 .

[brushyourteeth]

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Meh, I'd shag the lot of them. You've gotta try these things lol.

If Cullen discovered he's actually just into men for DAIII, I'd totally have to try it. LOL!

I'd make the sexiest damn protagonist EVER and bum that man into next week. *Ahem*

Making a man that's a match for Cullen physically would be a serious, serious challenge.

I predict lots of reloads. Or trips to the Black Emporium.

.... tip: aim for "clean-cut" rather than "attractive" 

[Danny Boy 7]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

Sorry if I offended anyone. I just don't want the annoying rapid, yaoi fangirls getting their claws into Cullen and turning him into a shadow of his former self. Like they did with poor Fenris and Anders. I'm so glad Alistair escaped that.

Again, sorry if I offended anyone.

Actually Alistair didn't, just saying.

I have no problem with people wanting a character specifically for themselves. I wish Kaidan was strictly M/M.

Stop right there!

I have to tell you how much I respect your honesty. And your willingness to see the other side. Bravo, bravo. 

I totally wish there were gay and lesbian only options. I just feel like letting some of the characters be *maybe gay if you want them to* isn't really the same thing as inclusion. 

And that's coming from a straight girl who only plays straight girls.

I've said it quite a few times and I'll say it again I want romances for each orientation but only if they are able to properly appeal to those er groups? I mean I wouldn't mind having a romance denied me, I mean I really liked Traynor, but as John Shepard I was boned (hehe irony).

I mean if Cassandra (as an example) was this great character but was only an option for a female PC I would be like "grr...good for them* but if I really really needed to romance her I'd reroll. The only issue I have is that if we're going to go down my route we have to make each love interest equally important, not in story significance perse but they'de all have to be a companion and not just an NPC (like Steve or Traynor).

If they can't do that though I'm okay with all of the characters being bi or HEROsexual

[brushyourteeth]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

MissRedZelda wrote...

Sorry if I offended anyone. I just don't want the annoying rapid, yaoi fangirls getting their claws into Cullen and turning him into a shadow of his former self. Like they did with poor Fenris and Anders. I'm so glad Alistair escaped that.

Again, sorry if I offended anyone.

Actually Alistair didn't, just saying.

I have no problem with people wanting a character specifically for themselves. I wish Kaidan was strictly M/M.

Stop right there!

I have to tell you how much I respect your honesty. And your willingness to see the other side. Bravo, bravo. 

I totally wish there were gay and lesbian only options. I just feel like letting some of the characters be *maybe gay if you want them to* isn't really the same thing as inclusion. 

And that's coming from a straight girl who only plays straight girls.

I've said it quite a few times and I'll say it again I want romances for each orientation but only if they are able to properly appeal to those er groups? I mean I wouldn't mind having a romance denied me, I mean I really liked Traynor, but as John Shepard I was boned (hehe irony).

I mean if Cassandra (as an example) was this great character but was only an option for a female PC I would be like "grr...good for them* but if I really really needed to romance her I'd reroll. The only issue I have is that if we're going to go down my route we have to make each love interest equally important, not in story significance perse but they'de all have to be a companion and not just an NPC (like Steve or Traynor).

If they can't do that though I'm okay with all of the characters being bi or HEROsexual

I feel exactly the same way! And consequently, I think Cassandra would make a fabulous lesbian. Actually, it would kind of explain her whole "Galyan, you're sweet. Uh.... later." type of attitude in DotS.

I mean, really? I would have been all over that. 

[Danny Boy 7]

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Meh, I'd shag the lot of them. You've gotta try these things lol.

If Cullen discovered he's actually just into men for DAIII, I'd totally have to try it. LOL!

I'd make the sexiest damn protagonist EVER and bum that man into next week. *Ahem*

Making a man that's a match for Cullen physically would be a serious, serious challenge.

I predict lots of reloads. Or trips to the Black Emporium.

.... tip: aim for "clean-cut" rather than "attractive" 

I'd just have to scan my face into the game, might be bad for Cullen though being outshone by my dashing good looks B)

[brushyourteeth]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Meh, I'd shag the lot of them. You've gotta try these things lol.

If Cullen discovered he's actually just into men for DAIII, I'd totally have to try it. LOL!

I'd make the sexiest damn protagonist EVER and bum that man into next week. *Ahem*

Making a man that's a match for Cullen physically would be a serious, serious challenge.

I predict lots of reloads. Or trips to the Black Emporium.

.... tip: aim for "clean-cut" rather than "attractive" 

I'd just have to scan my face into the game, might be bad for Cullen though being outshone by my dashing good looks B)

I could scan mine in too, though I'd probably look more like a twelve year old boy in a man's body. Maybe with a beard....?

A friend did Captain Morgan a picture of me once, and I think I pulled it off quite well. Observe:

[LolaLei]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Meh, I'd shag the lot of them. You've gotta try these things lol.

If Cullen discovered he's actually just into men for DAIII, I'd totally have to try it. LOL!

I'd make the sexiest damn protagonist EVER and bum that man into next week. *Ahem*

Making a man that's a match for Cullen physically would be a serious, serious challenge.

I predict lots of reloads. Or trips to the Black Emporium.

.... tip: aim for "clean-cut" rather than "attractive" 

I'd just have to scan my face into the game, might be bad for Cullen though being outshone by my dashing good looks B)

Can I give you a massive beard like Duncans?