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[berelinde]

R2s Muse wrote...

berelinde wrote...

NVM

That's what I get for posting to a thread before I've had my coffee.

LOL that sounds ominous...

Nah, I was just redundantly pointing out that "Rise to power" was a DA2 thing, but two different people ninja'd me by at least 2 hours.

Which reminds me. About that redundant/laid off thing, I think I prefer the phrasing of "laid off." "Redundant" sounds more like a personal attack. Being out of work is stressful enough without having to deal with self-esteem issues, too.

[CuriousArtemis]

berelinde wrote...

Which reminds me. About that redundant/laid off thing, I think I prefer the phrasing of "laid off." "Redundant" sounds more like a personal attack. Being out of work is stressful enough without having to deal with self-esteem issues, too.

I always thought it sounded like your doppelganger had stolen your job. You show up for work one day, and your boss is like, Oh, I'm sorry, we've already got one of those... you're redundant. 

I dunno why everyone picks on Anders. His sweetness is up there with Alistair's, only he's even more mature than templar boy. Poor darling.

[R2s Muse]

LOL that reminds me of a funny meme I saw on tumblr today. Not to dogpile on Anders, but it just made me laugh pretty hard.

http://r2smuse.tumbl...y-im-sorry-this

edit: and, actually, I'd never heard the term redundant. How clever! I agree with MMG's interpretation... it sounds very Borg-like. "You will be assimilated... unless we already have one of you... then you're just... redundant..."

Modifié par R2s Muse, 27 septembre 2012 - 02:05 .

[berelinde]

Is there any point in mentioning that that "church" was also the command center of the Commander-and-Chief of the largest army in the Free Marches? Probably not. People want to hate.

[berelinde]

Probably best to go back to talking about Cullen. Or getting back to work, depending on how close the boss is to the desk.

[CuriousArtemis]

We desperately need a "Haters Gonna Hate" Anders motivational poster haha xD

Do you guys think Cullen will be as polarizing as Anders? I hope not. I think it worked for Anders and made him a fascinating individual (hate him or love him). But I have this feeling it would just end up making Cullen look like a blind bigot.

EDIT: This happened similarly with Fenris. Of course Fenris' hatred makes sense to me because the boy was ENSLAVED. But a lot of people can't stomach his unending hatred. And I think his inability to see past that hatred, or rather, the player's inability to let Hawke HELP him see past it, hurt his character.

Modifié par motomotogirl, 27 septembre 2012 - 02:55 .

[CuriousArtemis]

p.s. I'm at work now xD My students are typing their essays here in the lab. If anyone posts sexy Cullen pics I'm dead hahahaha xD

[MissRedZelda]

I don't hate Anders. I dislike Janders. The real Anders, to me, was in Awakening. I actually think by the end of Act 3, the real Anders no longer exists. Justice has complete control of him. As for Fenris, well . . . I like to think Hawke's influence over him as made him look past his hatred by Act 3, since you can convince him to defend the mages. Which is what I usually do. I cannot stomach being on the same side as Meredith. Fenris learns to move somewhat past his prejudice. Anders, however, blows up a church. Bit of a difference there, I think.

Anyway, I do have a feeling Cullen is going to have his fair share of brooding. To be honest, most of the DA cast are broody buggers. Carver had a point when he commented on the fact that everyone they meet tends to be moping about something.

Modifié par MissRedZelda, 27 septembre 2012 - 03:03 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Well I love both boys (Fenris and Anders) equally, so they'll get no hate from me xD

I think I can deal with people hating Cullen. I mean they already do ;_; But I just hope he's presented well, as a full and complex person.

[MissRedZelda]

And it happened just as we were about to put an end to Meredith and Orsino's ****-scrap. God dammit, Janders!

Anyway. It's late, so I think I'll head off to bed now. Night all! :-)

[R2s Muse]

bwahahaha... Avejajed, you used it!!!

OK... Cullenlovers... in the interest of embracing the crazy and all the silly ridicule directed at Cullen, some new banners...

[Narcia_]

I'm confident that Cullen will never have the same opinion as Fenris. In DA:O he is friendly, and admits that he doesn't take pleasure in abusing/oppressing the mages. It's his job. In DA2, act 1, he tells Hawke that mages can burn down a building in a fit of pique. "They aren't like you and me", he says, but I don't believe he ever calls them inhuman. IMO, he's still experiencing ptsd at this time. By the end of the game, especially if you play or watch the pro templar scenes, He has several chances to voice his opinion on how he feels about the order and its purpose. Not in depth, unfortunately. When he affirms his view of a a peaceful solution to Meredith, that a right of annulment isn't called for in Kirkwall, or when he claims that it's the responsibility of templars to protect mages as well as the general public, this is his compassionate personality coming through. It says to me that in spite of what he's been through with mages, he is not a mage hater at heart. He could have turned into a Meredith if he'd been a different person ... Thankfully that didn't happen.

[R2s Muse]

... and there's got to be some other good ones... brushyourteeth has a good one brewing... so I don't want to steal her thunder...

[CuriousArtemis]

OMG "You want to practice blood magic on me" made me grin ... and I felt like this huge doofus and hope none of my students saw me LOLOL

[R2s Muse]

Narcia_ wrote...

I'm confident that Cullen will never have the same opinion as Fenris. In DA:O he is friendly, and admits that he doesn't take pleasure in abusing/oppressing the mages. It's his job. In DA2, act 1, he tells Hawke that mages can burn down a building in a fit of pique. "They aren't like you and me", he says, but I don't believe he ever calls them inhuman. IMO, he's still experiencing ptsd at this time. By the end of the game, especially if you play or watch the pro templar scenes, He has several chances to voice his opinion on how he feels about the order and its purpose. Not in depth, unfortunately. When he affirms his view of a a peaceful solution to Meredith, that a right of annulment isn't called for in Kirkwall, or when he claims that it's the responsibility of templars to protect mages as well as the general public, this is his compassionate personality coming through. It says to me that in spite of what he's been through with mages, he is not a mage hater at heart. He could have turned into a Meredith if he'd been a different person ... Thankfully that didn't happen.

Agree, he says they can't be treated like people, not that they aren't. Semantics... and inflection. But he calls it like he sees it. Mages can be dangerous and need to be protected , just as the people need to be protected from mages. I doubt that view changes by the end, and you know, there are going to be mage freedom folk who will never like that about him.

So, I think he'll be hugely polarizing, unless they change his character a lot. He already is.

That said... if they turn him in the bonafide voice of sanity and he helps facilitate a new model for treating with mages in Thedas, that could all change.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 27 septembre 2012 - 03:18 .

[R2s Muse]

motomotogirl wrote...

OMG "You want to practice blood magic on me" made me grin ... and I felt like this huge doofus and hope none of my students saw me LOLOL

Tee hee, MMG, if you want one that fits with some  lines of your text sig, I could shorten and lengthen it, if you like.

edit: Or nevermind! 

Modifié par R2s Muse, 27 septembre 2012 - 03:21 .

[CuriousArtemis]

I consider myself one of the "mage freedom folk" and I still love him xD Yeah I think he will be very polarizing though. For one, some people are unable to grasp the complexities of such a character, simple as that. For another, some people are just unable to separate their personal views from their appreciation for a character.

[CuriousArtemis]

R2s Muse wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

OMG "You want to practice blood magic on me" made me grin ... and I felt like this huge doofus and hope none of my students saw me LOLOL

Tee hee, MMG, if you want one that fits with some  lines of your text sig, I could shorten and lengthen it, if you like.

edit: Or nevermind! 

Hahaha I dun mind taking that quote off because it looks like I'll never finish that story anyway. So it was false advertising lol

[Narcia_]

R2s Muse wrote...

Narcia_ wrote...

I'm confident that Cullen will never have the same opinion as Fenris. In DA:O he is friendly, and admits that he doesn't take pleasure in abusing/oppressing the mages. It's his job. In DA2, act 1, he tells Hawke that mages can burn down a building in a fit of pique. "They aren't like you and me", he says, but I don't believe he ever calls them inhuman. IMO, he's still experiencing ptsd at this time. By the end of the game, especially if you play or watch the pro templar scenes, He has several chances to voice his opinion on how he feels about the order and its purpose. Not in depth, unfortunately. When he affirms his view of a a peaceful solution to Meredith, that a right of annulment isn't called for in Kirkwall, or when he claims that it's the responsibility of templars to protect mages as well as the general public, this is his compassionate personality coming through. It says to me that in spite of what he's been through with mages, he is not a mage hater at heart. He could have turned into a Meredith if he'd been a different person ... Thankfully that didn't happen.

Agree, he says they can't be treated like people, not that they aren't. Semantics... and inflection. But he calls it like he sees it. Mages can be dangerous and need to be protected , just as the people need to be protected from mages. I doubt that view changes by the end, and you know, there are going to be mage freedom folk who will never like that about him.

So, I think he'll be hugely polarizing, unless they change his character a lot. He already is.

That said... if they turn him in the bonafide voice of sanity and he helps facilitate a new model for treating with mages in Thedas, that could all change.

Looking forward to see which direction they go in the next game. I don't think they'll turn him into Broody McBrooderson, though:)

FYI  I'm also pro mage with my mage warden and Hawke!

Modifié par Narcia_, 27 septembre 2012 - 03:25 .

[R2s Muse]

one last one... for now... tee hee hee

[CuriousArtemis]

Avejajed wrote...

I want to make a call me maybe parody video. Does anyone in this thread feel comfortable enough to make a short video of themselves singing Call me Maybe? I thought it'd be fun to make one and send it to the devs.

Maybe if we all sang one line? That would be cute!!