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#20376
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brushyourteeth wrote...

Okay, question for you guys:
Can't remember if it's in Act 1 (it probably is) or Act 2, but when you talk with Cullen in the Gallows and choose the kind of "mages aren't the bad guys" dialogue option, Cullen answers with something like "Most people would probably agree with you. The plight of the oppressed mage is a popular image."

Do you think that's actually true, and the mages have more sympathy from the common folk that we've realized, or do you think that's just coming from the perspective of a Templar who's used to being criticized for doing his job?

And if he's aware of how some people think the mages are being abused, doesn't that also kind of make him aware that the Gallows mages are being mistreated? You'd think he'd be on the lookout for it if he understood popular opinion, right?


Interesting question. It doesn't really jibe with the fear we saw in Asunder, does it? So hard to say what the regular person thinks. I think my guess would be that he's talking about really broad brush stroke generalizations. Everyone likes the underdog, and the Circles have been around for so long, I could see the fear and chaos from the time of the Inquisition fading into the past. I bet most people now only see little kids getting ripped from the families and thrown in prison for the rest of their lives.

But, I got the impression he was talking more about sort of archetypal injustice as opposed to daily abuses and rapes and things.

Should he realize that this means the Circle is wrong? No, I think he looks at it as a misconception on the part of the people.

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HAWKE: The Order needs to change. “You have to admit, the templars have brought some of this hatred on themselves.”

Cullen: “That is the popular school of thought, no?”

Cullen: “It used to be that templars were welcomed wherever they went—for defending people from dark magics. Now the townsfolk are as likely to slam their doors as offer us a bed. The image of the poor, chained apprentice is a powerful one. And one the mages are more than willing to exploit.” (nice cutscene pans over to the righteous magisters and cowering slave statues dotting the Gallows’

#20377
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I've found something... disturbing:

http://theuglydance.com/?v=tdztmfinlu


Hi Everybody

and wtf is this? LOL

#20378
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Someone pm me and convince me as to why Cullen is awesome, sexy, and amazing. There's something I'm missing and it's bothering me. No joke!

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Someone pm me and convince me as to why Cullen is awesome, sexy, and amazing. There's something I'm missing and it's bothering me. No joke!


If you don't get it, then he's not for you...that's all. No big. If you really want to know why 'we' like him, click on page one and start from there lol:lol:

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Ok so here's a joke...tell me if you've heard it before...

Vamp walks into a room...everything goes dead...

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Someone pm me and convince me as to why Cullen is awesome, sexy, and amazing. There's something I'm missing and it's bothering me. No joke!


You can't really convince someone that a guy is all those things. You have to see it and feel it for yourself without anyone telling you. It has to come from you and no one else. 

That goes for Cullen and any other character and real people too. 

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R2s Muse wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I just wanted to take a quick second to say very strongly that no one here in this thread should ever feel bullied, cornered, picked on, or anything but awesome for showing support for your favorite character. Ever. Don't let anyone ever try to make you feel stupid or idiotic for waving a banner. Embrace your inner fangirl and show your pride- there's been a lot of fangirl hate on these boards recently and not a single one of us should feel anything but ridiculously awesome for not caring a fig what stupid people think of us. BE PROUD of who you are and what you like and let haters be haters.


You are my hero today! Every woman needs an Avejajed in her corner!!


Yeah agreeded. It's weird that fangals get picked on, but it's totally cool for dudes to geek out over their pixeled ladies.

#20383
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just to let you all know, I'll probably be gone for a few days...wedding...

Anyways, pm me if anything freaken cool happens!

#20384
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R2s Muse wrote...

SamaraDraven wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Blergh, who is that??? Jeesh, it's like my foodbowl's been moved. Everyone's changing their avatar today...


hehehe... Sorry. =D It's me. You know me. I just started a new DAO playthrough and updated the Warden.

In other news: I feel a little bad for that chick who said that sexist line about female bioware gamers. She seems to genuinely feel like she's being kicked. Her initial post, while she may have meant it good fun did set off a few people, myself included though I tried to be nice about it. Now that she's decided to leave the forum, what she's saying now would have been better served as her first comment. I don't like it when people think I'm mean.

You were not being mean. Nor was anyone else warning her not to make insulting generalizations about female fans and what they like. Your post was right on. And, eloquent, as you always are.

Honestly, it's a shame she feels bad, but what she said was dumb. She was "othering" fangirls who "only"  like romance and have Cullen banner, and then she's making sh!t up and calling them "facts." Doesn't matter is she's a girl. Girls have gender bias, too.

I think there could be a  point where we all get too aggro about anyone saying anything about fangirls... but I don't think we're there yet.


heh... Thanks R2.

What she said was dumb. I don't think she grasps what she really said. I think she believes her comment and those that followed were a tongue-in-cheek kind of thing. But she certainly didn't come across that way because she failed to make it clear she was stating this was her opinion or that it applied to BW games and players in general. She made a sweeping generalization of female gamers and I don't think she "gets it". It's a shame, really. If she had to listen to a guy say "Oh, you wh0r3, I bet you're too ugly to suck on my sword so next time I get you as a target, Imma just shoot you" or "Go back to your Cooking Mama games little girl" during an ACR match because the guy is being a sore loser about the fact that you just killed him; I bet if she'd ever been subjected to such that she'd eventually learn why women who play games get sensitive. <_<

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Someone pm me and convince me as to why Cullen is awesome, sexy, and amazing. There's something I'm missing and it's bothering me. No joke!


He's doesn't do it for everyone. No need to try to convince you to like him, that would be like trying to brainwash you lol.

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Someone pm me and convince me as to why Cullen is awesome, sexy, and amazing. There's something I'm missing and it's bothering me. No joke!


Everything is subjective. You're not missing anything. If Cullen isn't awesome, sexy, and amazing to you then he isn't any of those things from your POV. To each her own. :)

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SamaraDraven wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

SamaraDraven wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Blergh, who is that??? Jeesh, it's like my foodbowl's been moved. Everyone's changing their avatar today...


hehehe... Sorry. =D It's me. You know me. I just started a new DAO playthrough and updated the Warden.

In other news: I feel a little bad for that chick who said that sexist line about female bioware gamers. She seems to genuinely feel like she's being kicked. Her initial post, while she may have meant it good fun did set off a few people, myself included though I tried to be nice about it. Now that she's decided to leave the forum, what she's saying now would have been better served as her first comment. I don't like it when people think I'm mean.

You were not being mean. Nor was anyone else warning her not to make insulting generalizations about female fans and what they like. Your post was right on. And, eloquent, as you always are.

Honestly, it's a shame she feels bad, but what she said was dumb. She was "othering" fangirls who "only"  like romance and have Cullen banner, and then she's making sh!t up and calling them "facts." Doesn't matter is she's a girl. Girls have gender bias, too.

I think there could be a  point where we all get too aggro about anyone saying anything about fangirls... but I don't think we're there yet.


heh... Thanks R2.

What she said was dumb. I don't think she grasps what she really said. I think she believes her comment and those that followed were a tongue-in-cheek kind of thing. But she certainly didn't come across that way because she failed to make it clear she was stating this was her opinion or that it applied to BW games and players in general. She made a sweeping generalization of female gamers and I don't think she "gets it". It's a shame, really. If she had to listen to a guy say "Oh, you wh0r3, I bet you're too ugly to suck on my sword so next time I get you as a target, Imma just shoot you" or "Go back to your Cooking Mama games little girl" during an ACR match because the guy is being a sore loser about the fact that you just killed him; I bet if she'd ever been subjected to such that she'd eventually learn why women who play games get sensitive. <_<



Word. Until then, it's our job to educate!!  One dumb comment at a time. :)

What's really sad is that when folks don't even think about these comments and just throw them around, it perpetuates the stereotype. So even it's not meant in a derogatory way, it still becomes part of the problem. Sometimes that's a hard lesson to learn...

#20388
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VampOrchid wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Someone pm me and convince me as to why Cullen is awesome, sexy, and amazing. There's something I'm missing and it's bothering me. No joke!


If you don't get it, then he's not for you...that's all. No big. If you really want to know why 'we' like him, click on page one and start from there lol:lol:


Good advice, if a bit impractical :lol: But really, you come here if you like Cullen ... you don't come here TO like Cullen.

#20389
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VampOrchid wrote...

Ok so here's a joke...tell me if you've heard it before...

Vamp walks into a room...everything goes dead...


LOL No worries! It's been slow all day. We'll see ya when  you get back!

Love your banner by the way!! :wub:

#20390
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So... I've done something horrible. And now... I'm going to share it with all of you...

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I'm sure you know what happens next... :(

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R2s Muse wrote...

So... I've done something horrible. And now... I'm going to share it with all of you...

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I'm sure you know what happens next... :(


... Stabby stabby?

#20392
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... Looks like he's taking a sh!t. :lol:

#20393
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I used to play Halo with my (all male but one) friends. When I started getting really good, one of my friends out of nowhere got sooo mad and called me the c-word!!! LOL Not "me" but my avatar basically. This actually made me feel proud... cause he was the best one there and I totally kicked his ass! BUT he was my friend, and he didn't really mean that. So I can't say I've ever felt genuine fangirl/femgamer shaming.

In fact IRL I am a tomboy and just a gender deviant in general who hates romance. So it's kind of fun to come here to BSN and be all "CULLEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me touch you *_*" LOL

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LolaLei wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

So... I've done something horrible. And now... I'm going to share it with all of you...

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I'm sure you know what happens next... :(


... Stabby stabby?

It was only for science!!!  But now I feel unclean... :crying:

Deathwish looks good on him, tho, no? ^_^

#20395
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R2s Muse wrote...

VampOrchid wrote...

Ok so here's a joke...tell me if you've heard it before...

Vamp walks into a room...everything goes dead...


LOL No worries! It's been slow all day. We'll see ya when  you get back!

Love your banner by the way!! :wub:


Yeah hmmm...wonder where I snagged it from? lol only like 20 pages back, no big LMAO! It's gorgeous!

#20396
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VampOrchid wrote...

Ok so here's a joke...tell me if you've heard it before...

Vamp walks into a room...everything goes dead...

Ba dum tish!

I know a good one too!

Ok, brushyourteeth posts in a forum. Forum dies forever.

Seriously, I am like the biggest thread killer in the world. If you want your thread to live, don't invite me. LOL!

Also, I LOVE that you're using the hairbrush banner - hilarious!!!  Posted Image

#20397
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LolaLei wrote...

... Stabby stabby?


I've honestly never stabbed Anders. I just... I can't :crying:

#20398
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motomotogirl wrote...

I used to play Halo with my (all male but one) friends. When I started getting really good, one of my friends out of nowhere got sooo mad and called me the c-word!!! LOL Not "me" but my avatar basically. This actually made me feel proud... cause he was the best one there and I totally kicked his ass! BUT he was my friend, and he didn't really mean that. So I can't say I've ever felt genuine fangirl/femgamer shaming.

In fact IRL I am a tomboy and just a gender deviant in general who hates romance. So it's kind of fun to come here to BSN and be all "CULLEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me touch you *_*" LOL


LOL I haven't experienced the gamer hate, either. Only the awkward moment when they hear your voice and then next it's "LET ME LOVE YOU!!" and all they do is flirt with  you from there on in.

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Someone pm me and convince me as to why Cullen is awesome, sexy, and amazing. There's something I'm missing and it's bothering me. No joke!


I think I'm up for this challenge. Prepare!!  Posted Image

#20400
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Someone needs to make a banner that has a pic of Cullen and it says something along the lines of

Lyrium Addiction, there is help.